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The Gods #80346 If it is impossible to change one's gender, is it possible to be born a woman through divine power?

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Many will now say that this is all just a historical allegory to connect with their dual side of the soul, but let's be honest and think logically. Why then did Zeus engage him in an argument, and how could he know the answer if he wasn't a woman in the physical sense? Okay, let's say through clairvoyance, but then why ask him about it if Zeus could have done it himself? I think any kind and highly ethical person would like to become a woman and help people.

#20

Here we go again, sometimes you guys sound really aggressive when you talk about gender transitions. Whenever this topic comes up here or elsewhere, people always talk nonsense. I never see Zevism clergy giving these opinions, as if these people were sick, I would really like to sit down with you and discuss these issues.
You have brothers and sisters who are trans and are following the same path. The Gods do not ignore us or diminish us...
We have to use science to discuss these matters not common sense.

#21

I'm not specifically talking about gender reassignment during reincarnation—as far as I know, there have been no official responses from priests on this topic, and it wasn't discussed in sermons. I was referring to the question of the afterlife, the question of reincarnation—let's say, initially, most souls were devoured by the Grays, the Collectors. Satan saved those who were loyal to him and provided refuge in Hell, where we could await the next incarnation in comfort and well-being and gradually become gods. Now we have four dimensions, increasingly leaning toward Greek beliefs about the afterlife, in a little more detail and with additions from other religions. This is a rather significant shift in ideas about the afterlife, in my opinion. Regarding your lot in this life - your position was given to you for a reason, if you were born a man - then you must live your life as a man, this does not prohibit you from various fetishes or strange sexual practices - but a change of gender is impossible and this is equivalent to the fact that you were born a man, without wings, you cannot fly - you should not jump from a mountain as some Hindu recently did - believing that he could fly, those who change their "gender" - are essentially doing the same to themselves and indulging in this is a sick thing, and there is no definitive answer as to whether a human being can be reborn as a different gender.

Yes, and what's the problem if a person decides to live and perform with a different gender identity? That's not a fetish. You guys are mixing everything up.

#22

Yes, and what's the problem if a person decides to live and perform with a different gender identity? That's not a fetish. You guys are mixing everything up.

The problem is that gender can't be changed.There's sexual orientation, there's gender. There are fetishes.My personal opinion is that recently, all of this has been lumped together and elevated to an absolute, to the point of absurdity.For example, if we lived in a world where biokinesis were possible—that's one thing.If we lived in the year 3050 and it were POSSIBLE to change gender completely and functionally—that's another.We live in a world and a time when even a man who looks completely like a woman, or vice versa, remains functionally the same, which is a lie both to oneself and to society.These are sexual preferences, fetishes. It's not forbidden, but disfiguring yourself with surgery and hormones is not recommended. Changing gender is impossible. That's the truth.

HAIL ZEUS!

#23

The problem is that gender can't be changed.There's sexual orientation, there's gender. There are fetishes.My personal opinion is that recently, all of this has been lumped together and elevated to an absolute, to the point of absurdity.For example, if we lived in a world where biokinesis were possible—that's one thing.If we lived in the year 3050 and it were POSSIBLE to change gender completely and functionally—that's another.We live in a world and a time when even a man who looks completely like a woman, or vice versa, remains functionally the same, which is a lie both to oneself and to society.These are sexual preferences, fetishes. It's not forbidden, but disfiguring yourself with surgery and hormones is not recommended. Changing gender is impossible. That's the truth.

You're saying that it's your personal opinion, which says a lot that it's something that shouldn't be taken as absolute truth, then there's something else, it's not a fetish, at least cite science.

@Emergent13 speaks on behalf of all zevists, at least @Recycler1337 admit that it's your own opinion.

I will never allow anyone to call me mentally ill and disrespect me, because you continue to say the same thing about my statement confirming that biological sex does not change. Sometimes I just observe many of you and many of the things you say.

I like this debate just to you understand that I'm enjoying the conversation. :)

We don't have to be in accord in everything.

#24

*century

#25

We have to use science to discuss these matters not common sense.

We're not supposed to use common sense?

This statement is exactly how the enemy has pushed their agenda. They write articles and books that go very left-brained intellectualized, which convince people. There's a saying, "logic is like a lawyer, it can argue both sides". There is "scientific proof" for many things, including why yoga is harmful, as just one example. Debate teams have proved that nearly everything can be debated in favor of the opposing sides.

This is also how minds are ruined, 1984 comes to mind with the counting, to break Winston's mind. The mind can be broken through twisted logic, and we see this in society. We need to guard our minds. Meditation and connection to our Gods is imperative.

Speaking of sayings, here's one someone I know always says: "Common sense is no longer common".

#26

We're not supposed to use common sense?

This statement is exactly how the enemy has pushed their agenda. They write articles and books that go very left-brained intellectualized, which convince people. There's a saying, "logic is like a lawyer, it can argue both sides". There is "scientific proof" for many things, including why yoga is harmful, as just one example. Debate teams have proved that nearly everything can be debated in favor of the opposing sides.

This is also how minds are ruined, 1984 comes to mind with the counting, to break Winston's mind. The mind can be broken through twisted logic, and we see this in society. We need to guard our minds. Meditation and connection to our Gods is imperative.

Recently I did research to understand and classify the difference between Traditional Chinese Medicine and Western Medicine. ChatGPT explained the term "epistemology", which is how a system decides what counts as valid knowledge in the first place. I think you are sensing this difference here and I had also felt frustrated by this before, too.

In TCM, the doctors use their intuition and senses to judge the patient, they do not use methods of analysis like lab blood work, which can be over-complicating and potentially steer away from the right conclusion. In other words, one can use their eyes to see that an apple is red; using laboratory methods to prove this would be overkill.

I view the problem you describe with "logic can argue both sides" as like a person walking in the wrong direction of a maze. They may have used some form of logic to decide to go left or right at each step, but they are still missing the overall conclusion, because their larger framework, like intuition or higher judgement, is not functioning correctly.

Please see some of these concept breakdowns to see more of what I mean:

#27

Science comes from Latin "Scientia"
and it means knowledge.

Knowledge without Wisdom and Truth is a curse.

Odysee 1, 32-34:

"Ah, how shamelessly mortals blame the Gods!
For they say evils come from us,
whereas they themselves, through their own folly, suffer beyond what is ordained".

Dedicated Zevists are the Real Chosen of God!
Dedicated Zevists are Litteral Saints walking Earth!
Be Blessed Brothers and Sisters!
Walk the Path with your Guardian!

Hail Lord Zeus!!!

#28

Until now, I have stated that I was born male but chose to assume a feminine identity. In my case, this inclination manifested itself from childhood, although at the time I did not fully comprehend what was occurring within me. I do not intend, however, to dwell extensively on this biographical dimension.
I acknowledge that I was born male, and I do not deny this fact. It is a biological datum. Nevertheless, it is worth recalling that we also belong to the biological genus Homo sapiens—a taxonomic classification designating our species. Biology describes categories; it does not exhaust the totality of subjective experience, nor does it, by itself, determine how each individual understands their own identity.
I do not participate in this community almost daily by mere chance. I read its teachings because I identify with them and because I believe in the Gods. Throughout my life, I have persistently questioned the meaning of my own existence. If anything expressed here appears to conflict with the construction of my identity, I do not regard it as an affront, but as a legitimate occasion for debate. What I value is dialogue.
However, when, at the outset of a conversation, it is asserted that all science is manipulated solely by yehuborim, meaningful debate becomes impossible. Such a premise forecloses discussion before it can even begin, shifting the matter from the realm of rational inquiry to that of absolute suspicion.
I am not here to indoctrinate anyone. Like the others, I seek spiritual growth. And I state sincerely: if one day science—or even my own reflection—persuades me that my self-understanding is illusory, I will revise my position. I do not cling to it out of obstinacy, but out of provisional conviction.
What prompted me to speak openly was, above all, the discomfort I feel when discussions concerning “trans” individuals repeatedly associate them with abusers, pedophiles, and other moral degradations. I do not recognize myself in such imputations. They are not only morally grave, but they reduce complex individuals to demeaning stereotypes.
If it were possible to describe myself by a term other than “trans,” I might even prefer it—not out of shame, but out of a desire to distance myself from labels burdened with political disputes and collective accusations. I do not belong to any “cabal,” nor do I consider myself mentally ill. I write these words calmly, within my home, during a period of leave from work, reflecting honestly upon my life.
I genuinely appreciated your comment because it was not inflammatory; it was didactic and respectful, and I can clearly perceive your point of view.
As I attempted to explain, I have lost more than I have gained by identifying as a woman and adopting a different appearance. I am aware of the potential adverse effects of hormones upon bone health and other physiological aspects. I strive to be fair and measured in what I affirm, without denying the risks involved.
I do not participate in LGBTQ parades or political movements. I do not even have friends who share my condition; I lead a solitary and ordinary life. Certain opinions circulating publicly sometimes make me fear dying as a victim of hatred, when all I desire is to live in peace. As for the controversies regarding bathrooms, so frequently debated online and in the media, I remain largely detached. I avoid such situations whenever possible. I have never suffered any direct incident, and in most cases I am not socially perceived as male, so I do not experience what many other trans individuals report.
The High Priestess Lydia stated that the trans community is my “community.” On this point, however, I believe there is a misunderstanding: my existence is not reducible to collective affiliations. It is, above all, autonomous.
I find this debate genuinely interesting. Please feel free to speak with me.

#29

Shall now recount something I rarely, if ever, dare to share.
Many years ago—though I am now only thirty—I was approximately eighteen or nineteen and preparing to enter university. During that period, I began studying Greek, and, quite unexpectedly, I started experiencing vivid mental images involving a serpent and the pineal gland. Almost instinctively, I took up meditation and began practicing cardiovascular exercise daily. At that time, I was still socially perceived as a young man, if you understand my meaning.
It was then that I heard a masculine voice say to me: “Seek knowledge and continue.” Nothing more.
However, after engaging more intensely in these practices, I began to experience episodes that I can only describe as distressing. If memory serves, they occurred around nine o’clock at night. I would awaken in a state of paralysis, enveloped by an intense light. I felt what I interpreted as malevolent presences in my room. On one occasion, I sensed as though two invisible beings attempted to tear me apart; I did not see anyone, yet I felt as if my body were being split in two. The pain was acute, though no visible agent appeared before me. I can only infer that something occurred, though I cannot determine what.
During that same period, I would meditate in various parts of the house, focusing on what is commonly referred to as the “third eye.” At times, even while fully awake, I felt my body vibrate, as though struck by an energetic current. It resembled an intense electrical discharge coursing through me. At that time, I was unfamiliar with Zevism or Zevism; such ideas had not entered my horizon. I simply believed in nature and sought to study philosophy.
I recount these events because, in retrospect, the pieces now seem to cohere. In 2023, I came to believe that Hera led me toward Zevism/Zevism; thus, I interpret those earlier experiences as part of a process that, in some manner, directed me here. Yet after the episodes involving the light and the apparent attempts to harm me, I became afraid and ceased those practices.
I share all this to affirm that I believe spiritual truth exists and that I genuinely attempt to reflect upon what you explain here. At the same time, I ask you to understand that, regarding my identity, it is not simple for me to read certain assertions and immediately assent to them. Nevertheless, I have endeavored to do so with sincerity and goodwill.

Best Regards,

Sonnen Scent. ))

#30

Sorry, with The stone butch blues book, i meant it promotes MTF trans.

#31

At the same time, I ask you to understand that, regarding my identity, it is not simple for me to read certain assertions and immediately assent to them. Nevertheless, I have endeavored to do so with sincerity and goodwill.

This is normal, as is the “negative” perception you have of the truth on the matter. Your mind is dealing with conflicting information on a different level and is in conflict.

Awareness is the first step in the healing process. This will be an inevitable step for you if you continue on this path.

The Gods and meditation will confront you with the problem, and from that moment on, you will have two choices (the free will granted by the Gods): to face it or to flee, with the respective consequences.

#32

Here we go again, sometimes you guys sound really aggressive when you talk about gender transitions. Whenever this topic comes up here or elsewhere, people always talk nonsense. I never see Zevism clergy giving these opinions, as if these people were sick, I would really like to sit down with you and discuss these issues.
You have brothers and sisters who are trans and are following the same path. The Gods do not ignore us or diminish us...
We have to use science to discuss these matters not common sense.

It's not that we hate them, we just believe they are deceived. This is dangerous for them and could push them over the edge.

#35

I see the transgender problem in this way.

I'll put it in very simple terms without emotionalism or feelings.

There is a problem with self acceptance, doesn't matter the source, and one then mutilate oneself.

Besides all the methods we have to solve the problems with self acceptance, I wonder how much can help here the somatic healing.

What do you think?

Odysee 1, 32-34:

"Ah, how shamelessly mortals blame the Gods!
For they say evils come from us,
whereas they themselves, through their own folly, suffer beyond what is ordained".

Dedicated Zevists are the Real Chosen of God!
Dedicated Zevists are Litteral Saints walking Earth!
Be Blessed Brothers and Sisters!
Walk the Path with your Guardian!

Hail Lord Zeus!!!

#36

I have short hair. A fade infact lol. Even as a kid I was bullied mercilessly for not being "a normal girl" and this never messed with my identity as to my gender or other things. I get super annoyed when queer people look at me and automatically call me "they /them" and start with the pronoun bullshit and promptly correct them. I like things like art and poetry too and creating things of beauty and have a very emotional nurturing aspect to me. All of what I am is just trying to be a well rounded human being with my natural disposition. It's on point that a lot of these people go against "traditional roles" so much with the gender bs stuff that they are actually following it. If they weren't there would be no wrong body or wrong gender nonsense at all and there's no science that needs to explain that.

I for one absolutely adore that hairstyle on women :)

#38

I wonder how much can help here the somatic healing.

Somatic healing?

#39

Somatic healing?

Yes Brother, check HP Zevios Metathronos profile posts.

It's all explained there.

Odysee 1, 32-34:

"Ah, how shamelessly mortals blame the Gods!
For they say evils come from us,
whereas they themselves, through their own folly, suffer beyond what is ordained".

Dedicated Zevists are the Real Chosen of God!
Dedicated Zevists are Litteral Saints walking Earth!
Be Blessed Brothers and Sisters!
Walk the Path with your Guardian!

Hail Lord Zeus!!!

#40

Somatic healing?

I think you need to work on and clean your lower masculine chakras (base,sacral,solar). I personally believe one of the main causes behind transgenderism is an imblance of masculine/feminine energies in men/women, so men having too much feminine energy and also dirty higher chakras, and women having too much masculine energy and dirty lower chakras.

This may be why you feel you are a woman. You have way too much feminine energy and not in a good way, let alone in a balanced way.