Interesting post as I've always found the outer planets to be elusive and have always wanted to read about experiences of others but there's very little information online. I think once your perceived reality feels negative then there is too much Neptune in comparison to other energies. Those...

I wonder about Pisces ascendant in 29 degrees? What does it mean? This one worries me because Chester Bennington the singer from Linkin Park was Sun in Pisces in 29 degrees and I know this degree is of suicide and he actually committed suicide (or got murdered). The thing is I want to be a...

All kinds of symptoms from heat, cold, pain, etc but it's from too much kundalini energy. @hemIf you're a beginner I doubt that is the serpent, it sounds like kundalini surge. There are different detox symptoms that happen from meditation.

Try vibrating runes into your crown and 6th chakra or directly into the brain. Or direct energy into medication to alter the way it affects your body. Try solar energy, mercury, earth and air. I'm not sure what the best energy would be but I think that could definitely help.

"trying to be a good Christian to get her back" -chaosalexander67 Lolz pls go

If you struggle to control it then it becomes less efficient. I've worked with complex thoughtforms having elemental energy, star energy, runic energy and planetary energy that it becomes chaotic and my perception of it in the astral as it magnetically attracts the desired goal becomes elusive...

You can't really turn off thoughts, you just observe them. Every electrical impulse in the brain will result in a thought, so you can't really turn them off just detach and observe. Obviously as you advance your brain will change and will have more control of your thoughts meaning you'll be in...

I think brief interruptions are fine as long as the energies can connect each other. But I don't think anyone can update us on RTR damage because stuff like that won't be covered in the media.

What does that thoughtform do exactly?

You gotta practice

JoS doesn't charge mate, you must have misread the site.

Energy is omnidirectional and you can do it either way, but just vibrating it aloud works, doesn't matter it's physical location while you're doing the RTR affirmations because it still belongs to the same string of energy. I think it would be tiring to vibrate them into a ball of energy, it's...

You can meditate as much as you can handle, it's an exercise in a sense so if you start getting headaches then you are overtraining. It can be different symptoms which are similar to exercise overreaching and overtraining like irritation, mood swings, feeling tired, etc there are too many...

Make sure you say the iris just to make sure.

As long as you have some faith in what your doing you should be good. You could visualize yourself in a white room or golden room as a practice to strengthen your aura, you'll see it works. Cleaning your aura doesn't create strong sensations but you should feel your entire emotional and mental...

Harrilehtosaari a spell will take very long if you don't empower yourself, imagine you making up lame chi balls for magick it won't do much and will take years. The fastest way would be to raise tons of energy obviously, it helps if you can sense it acting in the astral. Try runes or use sexual...

Once you cut ties you'll feel more like yourself.

I'm not against spells like these but I think they are kind of useless in the way that if you find a compatible person attraction will happen either way and if the souls are energetically and genetically compatible love could probably happen also.

Yeah I remember everytime I logged in I saw multiple threads from angryshaman just posting meaningless stuff about how he has roaches or bugs w/e in his house. Then posting his meditation routines and boasting about how much electricity he channels, his astral vision and his kundalini but...

I thought i was weird that he mentioned the violet flame since I used to read about this stuff before I was a Satanist and it was usually talked about in websites that were new age.

That's a very positive message, I mean long-term healing is possible through months and years and no doubting biokinetic abilities but it will take some willpower. But if you're doing biokinesis to heal scoliosis by simply focusing on straightening the spine without understanding the ROOT it...

Uranus for confidence? Really? How does the confidence project itself from Uranus?

It's gonna be extremely hard to fix through biokinesis, you should just do yoga and learn as much as you can about scoliosis on the web or youtube. Learn about why your scoliosis is in that shape, where is the tightness coming from? Stretch the tight areas and do tissue release. Strengthen the...

Yeah takes time and I don't really know how but in my experiences void meditation has made me feel high with a change in perception but also the pineal gland and crown seem to create bliss.

You should talk about it on the JOS forum. I used to post there a lot, quite aggressively to the point a xtian said his computer was having problems when he was writing his reply and just said that there might be something to what I was saying.  Yeah I kept getting banned, and ridiculed too lolz. 

My brother is a clairvoyant and had similar visions, he said in around a decade there will be millions instead of billions. That those who work for the government will have a device that can track people with powers and will try to take us to study us in labs and experiment on us. Probably...

I used to go to that forum a lot years ago and the xtians were so annoying. So much delusion in those forums it's crazy. But yeah people are being more aware of the truth.

You can look at them on the JOS forum, look at the posts of Saturn_Eagle it's my username there. If you got questions just ask me or e-mail me since there should be caution with this if you ever actually start doing it.

Any kind of magick is available. You simply will simply learn how to alter your reality with energy which isn't easy. My experiences have been more about energy work and spiritual wisdom. Yes demons can physically shapeshift. I have a demoness partner and doesn't speak in a language just...

To be honest there shouldn't be envy if you are on an energy surplus, if envy manifests it needs sublimation.

Hey Magus why do you feel bad about the way you look? Have you seen my posts on faepulling? I remember when someone I knew from high school said I look older, and was because crooked nose, crooke jaw but it's not that complicated. It's simply a canted maxilla, and after face pulling I look...

I noticed that too :/.

That's what I noticed, what exactly does this do? I've heard it's more introspective process.  I did a mars square too btw, I guess I dun goof'd. :'(

What could this person have that you envy him/her so much? Is it money, status or something like that?

Why exactly are you blind? Have you done a working to heal your eyesight?

I'm the opposite, charismatic, magnetic, good with words and people always try to start conversation wherever I am. Friends have asked me if I'm enlightened and even asked if I'm real and that I look like a government created cyborg. Yet I'm lonely and I'm broke. And I have good self-esteem too...

Probably was Satan. Satanists do support Hitler, and are not racist toward non-whites.

I emailed you but it failed to send, is it exactly like your username? My brother was in the hospital again from dehydration from viral gastroenteritis and again from a form of catatonia or a fuge state. I did a working to heal his anxiety but still has had seizures and this strange...

Ok thanks I will send you the picture so you can reply here, do you mind if I ask you about a specific herb I have been researching along in that e-mail? 

I'm pretty sure the Gods see more of your astral appearance because it's who you really are and I believe that as you make progress you get to a point where your appearance reflects your health and balance. You might not believe me but my face changed and I still hear clicking on my right...

We can tell that this one is powerful I tried looking up the JOS planetary squares page and said couldn't locate DNS address or something. Gonna do as much RTR's as I can!!!

Sorry for lagging. Yes it's white but not thick, just like regular coating before brushing. The cracking seems to be more toward the back and it's very small.  Should I send a picture? Let me check for the redness and I'll add it today.

This is weird but I have been seeing lots of lizards lately and not sure why. I've had experiences with birds but not lizards. So they follow me by my side, I saw 3 the other day and as I walked there were more around the corner there were 2 just sitting there like waiting. Any ideas? I've...

He hasn't really been having headaches lately, it seems not anymore. I'm gonna ask him to describe them anyway and I'll write it here. His tongue looked kinda normal and a little white, I think if he cleaned his tongue it would look pink. The tongue is small in length and width, it is moist and...

No dizziness, I can't think of anything else. He had insomnia yesterday with some anxiety. No constipation at this moment. He says he urinates around 6 or 7 times a day and yellowish mostly but at times a mix of yellow and transparent but it seems mostly on the light yellow to strong yellow ranges.

No worries mate. Okay I asked my brother and he said the last is the closest. I'm gonna check again to see if he missed something. But he first said the 1st one and the last but said he doesn't take small sips so the last he says he feels that way. If anything I'll update anything that might...

I used to be skeptical also, and met a risen Satanist in 2010 and I knew about JoS but was having doubts until he told me if the Gods were free back then Hitler would have won the war. Then everything clicked, especially knowing how Jehovah is false and how the Gods were bound because of the...

Very nice! I want to practice biokinesis, should I focus on the etheric body, astral or directly on the physical?

So I asked him and he did say he feels thirsty but not like dying or anything. Am I doing this right? My brother is also not too good with descriptions so my bad if this makes it harder for you.

Ah I see, well he doesn't feel much thirst is what he said the last time but I'll ask him again and I'll come back and post it (my bro isn't here right now). I'm sorry if I'm not being real specific, but yeah about the headaches he doesn't complain but he said he has been having some, last time...

Yeah that's true, we don't have bikes though. What about lightweight circuit training? It's kinda cardioish in a way, but I got a trampoline maybe he could try that. Or swimming? Okay then I'll avoid getting him herbs. So I asked him and it isn't very big. He doesn't eat much but he can...

Some RTRs, power meditation, stuffblike that.

If you can handle more then why not? I have the problem of not having a set schedule for meditation, definitely not the optimal way but I try to get around 2-3 hours. Years ago I used to meditate most of the day lulz, the worst I experienced is some form of CNS fatigue and mood swings like manic...

Ok I asked him and about heart palpitations he just said sometimes. Not something common I guess. At times he gets cold easily, but more common is that he's sweating a lot, he had nightsweats for a while. But it seems right now he doesn't have thermal issues on a daily. Sleep seems more of an...

It's really no big deal, get cheap magnesium oxide and take it with every pill. You'll get some mineral supplementation (oxide sucks but still ok) with the constipation relief or buy gas x or a laxative. The magnesium as an NMDA antagonist is said to reverse tolerance but I'm not sure if for...

If you do the magnum opus you can change the people around you. I notice that whenever I look at people whether dumb or not I see their soul, and for a moment they become aware of it and I get a feeling that they want to be free but they don't know. It's like people around me shapeshift...

You can ween off using immodium, the diarrhea medication is is very weak and doesn't cross the blood brain barrier but because it affects intestinal receptors it has an indirect effect on you and should help. Or take 1/8th or 1/4th off of your pills and taper off slowly that way.

Anyone tried drawing in energy from the constellatuons directly? I know about the zodiac mantras but is there any harm in visualizing the constellations and drawing in energy? I read of some bad stats in certain ones like aldebaran in taurus and stuff.

Curse the fukker! What's his kik username?

I can't think of anything else besides the ones I said before. His breathing is rapid, for every breath I take he takes like 3 or 4. I said this before but he has shaky hands all the time. I'm not sure what else, I asked him about his sex drive and he says it's very low. I feel he might have...

That is very nice to hear and it is so true. Even though I'm having a lot of struggle I can always find bliss within me. I have been having so much fun meditating and being able to get myself and others high off of this energy.xD

I wonder if exercise is bad for him? Also any element that would be best for anxiety? I'm thinking earth and water? But couldn't air heal his nervous system while fire maybe strengthen parts of his soul? Can earth replenish jing?

@centralforce666I would definitely appreciate a full diagnosis, I asked my brother and he was cool with it. I started a working for him in monday full moon and it seems his anxiety has been way better but I think he is also recovering from the seizure so he seems more stable but still needs...

What do you mean?

How long have you done power meditation and what kind of progress have you had?

I really really need help here. Ever since my mom got sick my brother developed anxiety and eventually full blown panic attacks in which he felt an arm numbing. It seems there was a predisposition because as a kid he had shaky hands. He takes xanax and if he misses his them he gets seizures. He...

Thank you HP Shannon for helping me understand that! (^_^)

Thanks HP Shannon, this is a noob question but when you said about negative effects from an element could there be bad astrological activity that can cause elements to backfire? My astrology perspective is still in infancy, I'd appreciate if you or Lydia AstroSlothz could help.

Try using all the elements into a ball with quintessence for the spell, but more importantly work on yourself. Magick is constantly being created by your soul without doing spells by the way you view the world but it improves if you heal your chakras by meditating.

You might as well try learning biokinesis, a spell for that would take serious energy if you mean direct effects. You could still do a spell so that you get the best remedy for it and manifest the perfect nutrition, herbal supplementation or stuff like that. I'm not sure of anything for...

Can you see that yourself or only others? How can I see if it show my name? Does it show or just shenahakti?

There is a forum too which is more organized but it seems to have less activity than the groups. I was an agnostic but always intrigued by kundalini, qi gong so I decided to do chakra meditation and tbh I felt dumb while doing so. But when I had a couple minutes of focusing on my root I...

I meant to say what you said resonates with my imbalance since I don't have much knowledge on TCM but always have felt like I have to focus more on the right when doing cobra breaths. So this depression phase is over, have no idea what it was. No matter how much I cleaned my aura and chakras...

How do you find your BML?

Hey no problem brother, as you can see there is a thread here on my experience if you are interested. Hmm I don't know if face pulling would help, my jaw used to pop and lock, now it opens smoothly but there is slight cracking. I need like a year or more to finish this. From what I've read...

Lame troll is lame

Hey you're the guy who talked about the sacral blockage right? I have had a similar problem, my left side is tight and over strengthened/hypertonic and right side hypotonic/weak. So I did deadlifts in a way that only my right side would be affected and it sounds dumb because you can't really...

I'm sorry for delaying, I got a pretty bad flu or infection. Which I wanted to ask you if this causes depression? Is it the phlegm causing this? I had this for almost 2 weeks it is severe and I feel like going outside and screaming. I have been feeling grief from the past. I think what you said...

Remember Maxine said telepathy filters through our brains. So you have to meditate on your chakras and over a period of time your physical nerves and brain will be better at transferring data from higher realities to your brain

I also get a feeling this RTR is powerful because days ago I was cursed by the enemy like never before probably to stop me from doing it.

Ah yeah I think I've seen it but not completely. He should definitely write one about turmeric, I have always loved this herb.

That's true, I just wouldn't say I'm a Satanist. I've always wanted to help animals, first I'd need to improve areas of my life but eventually I want to do things to help this world physically.

Yeah man if they are asymmetrical you could have a slight imbalance, but obviously I can't confirm that and you should just try to see for yourself what exactly is that you have. I have a hip higher than the other and in a slight rotation, same with the ribcage and my skull so if I meditate I...

I could try but I'm not sure what you said tbh.

I'm gonna do it more often too, I used to do it with junk food and never really had problems. But after so many months of almost eating chocolate almost daily (sometimes daily for weeks, more than one chocolate) I have been eating clean because I know that eventually things can catch up. But I'm...

I think Kai Purr said that, but also that his kundalini made that happen through his perception on the food he ate or something. I may be wrong but I think it was him.

A member on the JOS forums mentioned a teleportation experience but not sure what he really meant

Hey btw is your spine straight, any imbalances there or posture problems?

A little arrogant, attracting the opposite sex is a noob skill. I used to give people orgasms in public transportation without doing anything, just listening to music and it was big groups of people. That was 5 years ago mate. Many Satanists are advanced, what exactly are you teaching us? If...

The book of revelations is a self-fulfilling prophecy being created by the human mass mind.

Usually that area around the ming men is hard to open, it's what advanced qi gong masters like John Chang focus on in order to empower the dan tian and reach samadhi.

Thanks man, I'm gonna try it today after working out just to be warmed up. I usually feel tired around noon, especially from 12-4 it's so bad I tend to take a nap. Some days it can be pretty bad but others it's not as bad I guess it depends whether I drink coffee, if I drink beers, or too much...

Hey Mike, I did massage these points myself. It was hard to get GB30 and I don't think I did it right so I will try again with a baseball. I use it for myofascial release and haven't done this in a long time and I think I might need to do this to improve my healing.

Okay the Bladder 62 on outside of the foot didn't cause big pain, I'm not sure if the pain I felt is normal or not but didn't uncomfortable. The Kidney 6 inside of foot felt pretty good, my right toe got a little tingly and it felt weird in a good way massaging these points like my foot...

I wish you luck bro, but don't stop the power meditations. It will make it easier to contact demons also, and to curse your enemies. You can direct negative energy at them and program it with affirmations, clean yourself before and after by visualizing white-golden light or a color that you feel...

Oh I see lol. True, thanks angryshaman666.

Have you empowered yourself sufficiently? I sent you an e-mail mate, hope you're not a troll because I do want to help.

Hey soutlaw92, I have a small one and it is good to use. It's a cardio workout with less stress and not only the joints but because you're circulating your blood and lymphatic fluid without wasting energy it is a good cleanser. I used to use it a lot when my liver would get fibrosis stages and...

Hey I read tourettes is caused by dysfunction in the thalamus, basal ganglia and frontal cortex. Well just quickly looked in wiki, and from a spiritual perspective there could be other areas that connect to the brain that could be affected. I think autism doesn't exist once you have every color...

O_o

Do you have a phone? Who is "they" btw? There is no "spell", just do what you want with your mental power. Empower your aura and chakras first and things should fall into place.

Why do the trolls always put a space before and after a comma?

If you really felt spirits that is good and might have a natural intuition. Being young you have potential, I would start meditating on the 3rd eye and opening up major chakras.

Create an aura of protection, you can still create energy most probably but are just a little weaker if you got cursed. Use elemental energy to clean yourself, fire is always good. Spin all your chakras at the speed of light and do cobra breaths.

Magick is part of nature, how is it not legal? You contradicted yourself by saying the power is in the mind lol.

It would be better to empower yourself, that's what I'd do. 

What are you saying Alzo? 

That would be cool, do you have any for the face and skull? I'm slowly strengthening the under-active areas because when I over-exercise them my spine becomes really straight with a new sense of orientation but my hips feet squeezed. It feels unnatural and I feel it is because my atlas vertebrae...

Try getting into the deepest trance possible if you can, just try your best to connect to that part of you.

Don't doubt yourself, try to really program your mind for that or try a planetary square that should be powerful.

She probably meant to say it to make the energy flow out from excessive kundalini, you can align them anyway you want but when the chakras are aligned towards your soul it is the optimal state.

I'm in a similar situation but I have a right temple chakra blockage, it's pretty bad and I think it was from getting hit in the head as a child running around. All the energy gets sucked up from my 6th chakra to throat from my temple chakra, I could put the philosopher's stone and circulate it...

I think the enemy reprograms your energy or something. Do yoga, do affirmations, spin all your chakras too.

You'll feel energy, it's a very natural feeling. You know when you listen to good music and you feel it. There are different kinds, like the crown is like asmr type feeling while the root is a sexual ecstacy. You're literally inducing chemical responses when you focus you awareness in your...

Don't do the Saturn square it can bring misfortune.

What kind of symptoms do you have?

I'd like to know how to pronounce visarga, could you explain it through words while you make the video?  I haven't done it recently but I get a very psychedelic-like feeling, I'm not sure if it's some kind of placebo but it makes me feel a little detached like if I got high or something.

I have trouble understanding what you just posted.

What kind of healer? Does he do shaktipat?

Why would anyone laugh at you? I have a dog and I really care about her. Have you practiced healing? 

What is going on exactly?

That seems like a good idea, where would it be good to distribute them without getting looked at? I'm thinking bathrooms are a good idea lolz.

It is in quotations for a reason.

You meditate and empower your chakras to become a God my friend.

Do you think you have TMJ? Is it cluster headaches?

Damn I used to drink monsters a lot. I still do sometimes but gotta stop or my adrenals are gonna be rekt m8.

I was wondering if scoliosis can change the distribution of energy or block certain areas of the brain and how that could affect me? If I meditate to the point that I can't handle it, my legs feel uncomfortable. But mainly my left leg, this leg is shorter and tighter. It never relaxes, my toes...

I don't understand what you mean. Is your rib shorter on one side? I have a problem with my left ribcage, it is smaller but becase of tight intercostal muscles. My issue is connected with mild scoliosis, just letting you know in case you have a similar issue. I never really had breathing...

Rise in temperature I assume? Kundalini meditation can induce production of catecholamine or cortisol, I might be wrong though. But since you're activating your nerves and circulating energy it makes sense that you create heat and the body responds.

Where did OP go?

What's the point of that?

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Do vipassa void meditation xD

Did you open your third eye? Start from the top to open the ability to sense and use energy. Just stick to it, have you tried cobra breaths or spinal breathing?

Progress done very you have energy strong much good good power.

I'm down for this but I barely read it today, means you got a head start already. :|

What does this actually mean about Frucissiere? Is it literal? If it is, does it only apply to recently deceased? I know this is a ridiculous question but if an HP could chime in I would appreciate. 

What effects do you get from absorbing energy from Uranus? Why are the energies of Orion underrated in the groups and forum? I never hear about the meditation from Vovim where you absorb Orion belt star energy.

We should astral punch lamont green and to finish him off, give him an astral cock slap. It symbolizes the dominance Satanists have against the jooz in the spiritual level. Who's with me?

You never post on the forums? I see that there seems to be different members on the forums than the groups, or maybe just different names.

What the fuck? 

I'm guessing you did awaken kundalini energy. Work on your chakras with good concentration, work on the planetary hours of the chakras to empower them more. Remember the extensions and to clean your aura too.

I think fapping like 3 times in a day is draining. I don't know exactly but with my body I try to time it correctly with other things, like I noticed that over-doing it makes me tired. Like sometimes I can wait 3 or 4 days, and sometimes every 2 days and if my body feels good I can do it another...

You should try light exercise, it's fun and you'll like it. You can start jogging, then you'll start getting addicted to the feeling. You could do high intensity, sprints or light weight lifting. It's not only about maintaining weight, but you're training your nervous system. But it could impact...

Lol what I meant is cellulite in the skin, when it looks like dimples from the fat. Don't want to make anyone feel bad, luckily topical creams or gels with cayenne, licorice, or aminophylline are proven to fix that by acting on the cells and even muscle cells without over-stimulating the central...

Thickness is nice, but not cottage cheese glutes or thighs. Albuterol helps for weight loss too O_O

If you do like mentioned above you'll feel the after effects combined. After drawing in fire and water I felt really depressed.

You should try aminophylline cream or licorice and cayenne pepper cream. You could make your own too and they penetrate the skin and desensitize fat cells to insulin therefore not storing anymore sugars. It won't be a quick thing and it is mainly recommended for people with low body fat, but it...

Have you opened your chakras? You have to work on your astral senses, at the beginning I never summoned one but I actually interacted with my succubus before dedicating. I was opening myself up and formed a relationship so I'd day demons are real.

That's amazing, I've had a similar experience. I could've died from liver problems, but all of a sudden my bilirubin stop rising and sent down, I can't remember the levels I had or numbers but I remember that if it was a couple numbers higher my liver was definitely going to fail. Doctors have...

Yeah, why not? 

He's probably on dat dere juice brah. You want to speed your spiritual training or physical? It sucks to hear that, a lot of people take juice because it makes them feel more secure. But I believe it's possible to be strong naturally, you can probably get stronger than him in the future because...

Without really thinking much about it I would always spin my chakras 9x the speed of light and never noticed that Vovim used 6x? I think this messed me up, what should I do at this point? Should I lower it to 6 or 3 or less?

I don't know I'd like to know to since I have a relationship with a succubus but I think they find energy attractive. So maybe one can be really ugly but with a lot of bioelectricity they may look better in a different way even if not physically.

Do aura of protection, but 110%. Cut the enemy links too, on the heart, 6th chakra, solar chakra on front and back extensions and use fire element. But also the more you empower yourself the more tolerant you become to energy. And really important program your energy after you meditation, do...

 Lol your reply made me laugh, but it's true, why would you want to meet up? We got everything we need to know. Maybe one day we will meet each other but not like this. xD

Wow thanks for awaring I'll just stick to lunarium.

--- In [email protected], "High Priestess Maxine Dietrich " <maxine.dietrich666@... wrote: It sucks that I'm ruled by planet Saturn. :|

--- In [email protected], "rs56584" <rs56584@... wrote: I also wondered this too, I use lunarium.co.uk and drstandley.com and both have different times but set a few hours apart and look at both and try to use the gap of time in which both aren't void of moon.

--- In [email protected], "abraham172" <abraham172@... wrote: Yeah but sometimes your own subconscious interferes with the result, so it's a tricky thing I guess.

--- In [email protected], "magus.immortalis" <magus.immortalis@... wrote: Does mercury retrograde affect astral communication like telepathy?? I've been feeling very doubtful lately with my guide, I have listened to her but my ego has been getting in the way lately and I can't...

--- In [email protected], "bunpuppet@..." <bunpuppet@... wrote: I have heard that but honestly I don't really know.

--- In [email protected], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote: Yes that's why I said "maybe" since I'm not sure. Yeah before you sent this message I realized I made a mistake now that I remember it's Ptah, but I guess it hasn't been approved yet.

--- In [email protected], "eric_flett66" <eric_flett66@... wrote: Made a mistake with Osiris, not sure which would be Satan I think it's Ptah but I'm not sure. :O

--- In [email protected], "eric_flett66" <eric_flett66@... wrote: He's the same God in every culture, Osiris, Sumerian Enki, maybe Quetzocoatl, Sanat Kumara, etc. You know all religions come from those sources right? It's not even a hard thing to figure out lol.

--- In [email protected], "bellybuchelli1234" <bellybuchelli1234@... wrote: You could instead like the other person mentioned above talk about energy, I usually talk to people about Qi Gong or Ancient Egyptian stuff but I never say Satanism for the obvious reasons. If you want to...

--- In [email protected], "johndudee" <johndudee@... wrote: Power meditation alone does it, but taking iodine wouldn't hurt it binds to fluoride and gets excreted so if you're deficient it would help along with non-fluoride toothpaste, clean water, etc. I would start at 500...