Time to Celebrate with RTR's. Cheers mates. HAIL SATAN https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/947558/jewish/What-Are-the-Three-Weeks.htm

LMFAO

Exactly, even the ones we are told to Trust here.

Thank you Mageson666. Be safe my brother.

You're not rambling, these thoughts are inspiring and normal. I do not want Trump Jr to be elected...and trust me he will run after his father. In my opinion his mother is a kike, I may be wrong but the gamble for me is not worth the juice. Genetics...infiltrating Jew genetics can not be...

quacks like a Duck, walks like a Duck... Why Does The Wal-Mart Shooter’s Father Make Videos Online Sitting In Front Of A Giant Star Of David? By Andrew Bieszad on August 3, 2019 in Featured, General...

You do not a license to carry in Texas. If you are crossing county lines the vehicle extends to your personal domain, i.e. your home, business, place of employment or vehicle. "Castle Doctine"

My best advice is to place a Matzo ball on your forehead...and then smash it.

baby eat healthy, baby eats balanced or baby breast feeds and baby will thrive not just get by...and if you can, skip on the vaccines until your babys blood brain barrier fully develops or until he or she is 3+ you will bite your nails imagining your child getting XZY disease bc he or she is...

Isn't Tusli's brother Aryan Gabbard also in the Hawaii State Senate? Or is that her father Mike?

This is any easy way to inbed nasty virus'. Nice first post.

Hail Satan!

Cathy, take your time and study. Let it soak in. And then re-read some more. Dedication is the next step; then the 40 day program is where I would start. There is a lot to take in and this can be overwhelming, but rest assured the journey is well worth it. Your life will change for the better...

Speaking of Retards, nice signature you retarded fuck

((( "Alphabet" / "The Aleph Bet" ))) Ladies and Gentlemen, do your RTR's :twisted:

We must be on the same wave length. I was literally just talking to my mother-in-law about what to watch for in terms of Tulsi being (((black balled))) last night about this. HAIL SATAN!!

we should have JOS Movie Night :D and watch " They Live " 8-)

Thank you HP

Heading out to fish Ill post up Fuentes America First info after

Fuentes is a kike, just sayin...

be careful...

for the lurkers.... What HP Cobra states is 100% true as we can see several prominent examples within the Jeffrey Epstein case. On July 08, 2019 United States Department of Justice's Attorney General William Barr tried to recuse himself from the Epstein case on the grounds of a "possible...

it is nice to see the Jew fucks exposed out in the open - especially the Wall Street tycoons that funded Epstein and hide behind their wealth. Epstein does not even have a college education yet he is a Wall Street finance genius "hedge funder" ... lol I hope he gets gutted with a rusty hand...

I will try to track it down and repost it for you. This is a link to someone talking about Alefantis, however I can't vet the video or the guy as I didn't watch or listen I just noticed the snipet of James' style of producing. I have studied these sick fucks for way too long. It is not the...

Robert Mueller's connection to the Jewish pedo blackmail apparatus: https://archive.is/Cknfg#selection-527.81-527.128

James Alefantis produced a video titled "Panda Cult". If you can find this disgusting video, you will see modern day white gentile MKUltra teens and children in a traumatised state of being. It used to be on PandaHeadMag.com - which was a Jewish pedophile publication.

This is just a reminder for SS and lurkers alike... Robert Mueller is very much a part of the Jewish pedophile blackmail apparatus that is unraveling with Epstein. You can see how the Jewish criminal apparatus works with these Jewish Judges, Jewish District Attorneys, Jewish Attorneys and...

When thinking about Brexit and the forces delaying the decision our people made...think about Boris Johnson and his (((friends))). from the horses mouth.... 5 Things to know about Jewish Boris Johnson https://www.jta.org/2019/07/23/global/5-jewish-things-to-know-about-boris-johnson *bonus...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hollywood-producer-arnon-milchan-reveals-mossad-past/ Acclaimed American-Israeli producer Arnon Milchan has revealed details of his efforts to boost Israel’s alleged nuclear program when he was working in Hollywood during the 1970s and 1980s. Milchan, 68, who was...

The USA now has an Orthodox Jew running the National Security Agency. There rest were Jews as well, but this is just a friendly reminder of what is now out in the open. SS and lurkers alike, pay close attention to her looks. Quite a crypto huh. Know your enemy. Jewish psychopaths ...

The Jews dingle handedly destroyed Russia and have been plundering it since their Bolshevik agents captured and murdered the Romanaov family on July 17th 1918.

First thing in the morning. Mid day for digestive aid and energy. Before bed. 2-3 tablespoons with Raw unfiltered Honey and 8 ounces of water. The Honey helps with the taste and it also very good for you.

Very very Interesting. I did not know this about Tutankhamun. I also did not know about Akhenaten until Savitri Devi lead me to him ..... I was deceived only to have, if I remember correctly, HP Mageson call me out and set me straight about him being an enemy. Where can we learn more about...

Epstein was just found injured in his NYC jail cell.... https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Jeffrey-Epstein-Found-Injured-in-NYC-Jail-Cell-After-Possible-Suicide-Attempt-or-Assault-Sources-513174311.html Accused pedophile and wealthy Manhattan financier Jeffrey Epstein was found injured and...

Thank you for clearly explaining this

Thank you for clearly explaining this

Thank you HP

Thank you very much for this link.

Thank you Sir!!! HAIL SATAN

also, have you ever read Francis Parker Yockey's "Imperium"? That is next on my list.

Yes sir I agree!! I never knew of who he was until HP Mageson wrote of him years ago. I actually just picked up 'This Time the World' and it a great read. ALL of his material is transforming...

I thought about the scenario you mentioned and I agree with you. Way before I found JOS I was fascinated with Free Masonry and used to read everything I could get my hands on related to them. If I remember correctly it was Bill Cooper's "Hour of the Time" that lead me to Twyman. To be honest I...

LMFAO :lol:

I did not know that Donald Trump's uncle was the man who the FBI appointed to inspect Tesla's belongings and research papers 2 days after his death. "In the fall of 1937 at the age of 81, after midnight one night, Tesla left the Hotel New Yorker to make his regular commute to the cathedral and...

very recent Drone footage of Little St James https://youtu.be/OJpPiZClb48 I am beginning to think the Jew Elite is offering up Epstein.

Has anyone heard any news on Tracy Twyman being murdered after the Isaac Kappy and Epstein investigations she did on child trafficking? I do not know if Tracy was 'one of us' but I do know that she taught me a lot many many years ago with her writings on Freemasonry...

a couple things for Epstein watchers, Rachel Chandler is an heir to the Chandler Fortune, the previous owners (for 120 Years) of the LA Times. There is the elite connection w her. She is just another demented Jew that found herself as a pedo handler for her rich Jew friends. She peeked my...

Cheers my friend! HAIL SATAN!

at some point I would like to cover the "Satanism" that the Hollywood and the jew "Elite" crowd engages in...which is basically the methodical torture of our Gentile children using our own symbolism ( I call it ritual Blasphemy ). I keep running across it with the Jeffrey Epstein crowd and it...

Thank you for this

(((James Comey's))) daughter, Maurene Comey is Assistant US Atty in Southern District of NY, is a prosecutor on the case :lol:

This case has keep me up at night for a few years. I could go on and on...suffice to say I am anxious to see this shit storm unfold. That gas explosion at pizza shop is a mighty fine cohencidence. just think, Rachel Chandler (who I always thought was a Rothschild, but may not be at all) may...

lmao nice :lol:

Thank you HP

interesting Larissa , I have always wondered this about Alexander myself

fuck Jews

Welcome to the forum

I agree 100% more and more each day, Cheers

this bit of fake news made me chuckle :mrgreen: Donald Trump's Rape Accuser, E. Jean Carroll has a major malfunction on Jew Anderson Cooper's CNN TV show during her live interview. She's calls her rape "Sexy", and Anderson Cooper pulls a code red They Live style and immediately cuts to...

IMO Texas gets attacked so much because we have a very robust economy, a ton of State pride and our rural population is overwhelmingly white...(only outside of big cities of course). We have a very unique, White culture that is deep rooted; social cohesion if you will? Texas is not exactly a...

You are correct Sir. It is virtually impossible to for a Republican to win a race in many districts because we are, to put it lightly, outnumbered. Democrats in Texas use to lean more center line in terms of voting, but that is long gone. This of course is mostly limited to big city populations...

This is a red hot issue here in Texas. The city of San Antonio has reported 500+ thus far and up to 600 more coming,.. Congolese immigrants were dumped in Texas by DHS without warning. San Antonio news below...

Welcome back, great post. Always teaching me something. Cheers!

Tell us why you feel this, if you will please Sir?

Tonight Jones got accused of having child porn on his person. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/18/alex-jones-documents-sent-to-sandy-hook-families-contained-child-porn.html Kikes getting desperate to makes examples of evil goys

American's celebrate "Father's" Day - as in we celebrate our literal Father's / Dad. It is a tongue in cheek post. 8-) Cheers Fellas Hail Satan!

more in depth article that also mentions Putin's possible role and potential offer to build the Temple, in lieu of War with Trump https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/105767/new-special-edition-temple-coin-minted-for-israels-70th-anniversary-the-end-of-the-exile/ Great Sermon HP it help me...

in typical jew fashion, Mossad sends another warning to Shinzo Abe while he is literally on Iranian soil for trade talks. You can see the same underlying aggression in this event as you can see in Japan's Fuskushima 3/11 Mossad attack. Japanese ship owner directly contradicts the false flag...

From work experience, especially lately, dealing with the Cryptos in a business environment ; to me they are very aware but not to the extent that they understand what a real Pagan is. They honestly feel that we are 100% slave and asleep. They are 100% racially aware and they are very, very...

In the Crivelli painting you can see the Peacock right above Mary 'observing' (left eye shown). Fascinating painting. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/The_Annunciation%2C_with_Saint_Emidius_-_Carlo_Crivelli_-_National_Gallery.jpg any idea why he shows an Apple and a Pickle...

HP Carlson, do you recommend reading.." A Review of James Neill's Origins and Role of Same-Sex Relations in Human Societies by James O'Meara " Thank you in advance.

I was having an early morning talk with my wife about warnings in art, particularly Renaissance art. Opened up the JOS and voila. Thank you HP Hail SATAN!

Thank you HP, great sermon

many thanks for this knowledge and a lot of respect to you HP

lmao here is an older one, as you can see Pelosi is just an old crumbling jew ... https://youtu.be/xgqkmy8DgWc

Do the RTR. Hail SATAN!

article made my day ... The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia called the suggestions a “shocking expression of an antisemitic myth” in a statement Monday. “We all think of this as absolutely unacceptable,” the federation’s spokesperson, Boruch Gorin, told the Interfax news agency...

I always thought Corbyn was a crypto, like May, Boris Johnson and Farage? nice clip Jack

thank you

https://pepethefrogfaith.wordpress.com/ moon man ? interesting :mrgreen:

Yes

exactly what I was thinking good times

very very interesting, thanks Mancy

the Revolutionary Guards are basically a private army - separate from the Iranian Armed Forces - typically, and I may be wrong, but as I understand it the RG is the force that the Mullahs / crypto Khamenei use to agitate the populace etc? anyone know how the politics are between armed forces...

remember family, violence is not the answer. Spiritual determination and doing the RTR's is the answer we have been given. Fantastic sermon HP, thank you once again

Thank you for this knowledge

I went thru this myself with my mother and I personally know it is not easy to sit and watch. I wish you the best of luck. I bind family members that are in close contact with my children and such. I tried to subtly teach her about various topics but it was not in my best interest to continue...

interesting, thanks for the post!

it's amazing that it took me so many years to realize Rogan was a Jew. From pushing drugs to his early UFC / MMA partnering with the Fertitta family of Jews to his interview with fellow Jew Elon Musk and his softball interview with Jack the Jew Dorsey and that basically sealed the deal for me -...

bump for current importance anyone else have a sense that another U.S. / Israeli military false flag; perhaps a Navy false flag on the Hormuz Strait / Yemen?

thank you Sir

Andinia Plan? interesting,.. I have never of this until now.

3:36 and on the cover of VP#69, feels like I'm being mocked watching these guys pretend to slap pads in Abrahamic ruins. LARP to me. pardon me if I am incorrect,.. what do I know.

the link works in the USA. these guys are christians? the gentleman with the dark hair is quite nervous and flashes Masonic signs exactly 3 times.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I do not think the situation is that black and white. You have to understand Trump has been in the New York City business arena his entire life, and much like his father Fred...they are very much a part of the Jew establishment in the most competitive cutthroat city in the world. It is obvious...

I agree 1000%. Everyone should also keep in mind that Pence is a Crypto Jew - with strong pedo ties to DynCorp. A bullet in Trump means Lyndon B Johnson all over again.

I have been thinking about this exact situation for some time now. I met an older gentleman that recently retired from the coal industry who is a local Republican Party chair person. His opinion was that the Jews that pull Trumps strings were 'forcing' the Jew left to actually vote Republican -...

Interesting.

Thank you for this priceless information HP.

Reminds me of when HP Dietrich spoke of those with powers to remain anonymous ... Thanks Jack for the great post...very informative.

essentially the merchant Jews at the top in France assumed they would get a charitable tax break from the Goyim after the fire....turns out they were very wrong.

6 bombings on Christian Easter Sunday ...in Ceylon?

SIEG HEIL ! This is what I needed Sir. Many thanks HP.

Welcome to the JOS It is nice to have you here discussing these thoughts with us. Everyone has great advice thus far....I know it's not easy to even bring this type of stuff up to an unknown group...but you are here for a reason. Always remember that you are here for a reason...and to have...

Yes, Sewol was exactly this - Choi and the '8 goddesses'.

An American from New Jersey tried to light on fire St. Patricks Cathedral in New York last night: https://youtu.be/H84aWgwrCL0

I have the same feeling. This huge amount of energy means Jew Passover will be bloody.

I humbly agree, 100%: sympathetic magic ---------- https://www.newsweek.com/human-chain-formed-save-crown-thorns-other-priceless-relics-notre-dame-fire-1397552 "Amid the stories of disaster and devastation after the fire at the Notre Dame de Paris, a bit of good news has arrived. The...

This is something I have watched closely...I am trying to figure this out myself. I don't know if the surrounding communities are the force behind this or if it is indeed subversion. I am starting to think it is just community backlash against dirty kikes and their orthodox community to be...

this is an incredibly good sermon,,,many thanks again HP

HP, Eddie Gallagher is an elite, highly decorated American Navy Seal that was arrested on Patriot’s Day, Sept 11th 2018 by US Navy NCIS for mistreating an ISIS terrorist. His illegal prosecution is being lead by Seal Commander Matthew Rosenbloom. Chief Gallagher is currently in the Brig in San...

HAIL SATAN!

Jews force people to use Gab with Apps like Dissenter.com. If you use the Dissenter App to conceal your identity in the 'comment' section , as such you are basically registering with the Jews at Gab and your ID is revealed in short. the online Pogrom is before you :lol:

Gear88, I hear you and I often have some of those exact thoughts on the future; Particularly now Netanyahu is annexing Golan and the West Bank. Military, Political and Social events are happening so fast on the International scene. It seems like every 3 weeks a new event unfolds. When does the...

I appreciate this post, thank you.

apologies for rambling and side track ,,, you're absolutely correct. I forget, and just think how much Hezbullah has advanced since the war in 2006 was won by Hassan Nasrallah et al. I remember the big deal in defense circles was the destruction of a considerable amount of Israels Merkava tanks...

I agree w/Larrisa ... except the Bodard (Chambord) Copper 8 cup french press is where the glory is ! Back in the day when I was offshore a lot on oil rigs, our group of guys used to pitch in and we would order a 40 pound sack of Jamaican beans from a roaster that wholesales on eBay. It would...

Was the domain name hijacked and transferred to a new owner?

Old archived articles about Christchurch Muslims and various (((terror))) associated scenarios within the Al-Noor Mosque: It seems the Mossad / Jews have using Christchurch as a base for some time echoing exactly what HP stated above. https://archive.is/Sqpru "Aaron Tahuhu, a fundamentalist...

Is this type of event used to gather warrants on groups that are essentially 'opposed' to Jews and Tyranny? For example, now anyone or any website displaying Sun Wheels or any type of Pagan symbol the New Zealand shooter used...can be probed or monitored as a terrorist. Or a family Christian...

Mossad spy ring 'unearthed because of Christchurch earthquake' The Israeli secret service Mossad has been accused of conducting an intelligence-gathering operation in New Zealand which was unearthed because of February's Christchurch earthquake...

FYI - here you can see the crypto New Zealand PM ((( John Key ))) wash away this Mossad incident. Keep up the RTR's ladies and gentlemen. Do not be fooled by these events or these Jews on your land. --------...

You are very wrong.

I think the footage is real; I have it, I just do not know where to upload it. Why would he say he has the Reborn Knights Templar's approval? .. setting up terror links for data intel warrants?

After watching the video many times it feels like 100% False Flag. Read the guys manifesto. Reads like it is straight out of the Jew playbook. He flashed the Sun Wheel many times.

link to New Zealand guys Manifesto: Please don't post this or the video. After reading it, if I were a betting man I'd say this seems to be 90% Mossad. Use of Sunwheels, clicks all the memes and plugs pewdewpie, but no mentions of Jews until he declares he is not an anti-semite...

This is the live streamed video for the New Zealand mosque shooting. You do not need to approve / post the thread - just thought you guys would want to have a look at the video. Doesn't appear to be false flag? https://livestreamfails.com/post/43613

:lol: :lol:

he is a Crypto-Bot :lol:

Wow. Thank you for the post. That site is amazing.

Who was on that airplane that someone may have wanted dead? Brand new airplane with 1,400 flying hours on it.

Do not make the mistake of telling others about your relationship with God. They will never understand and you will regret it. Your life can be ruined very easily. Something you will not regret is listening to the groups Wisdom and genuine concern.

Thank you HP

It should be obvious now to all viewers that both men are controlled.

Welcome to the Joy of Satan.

http://fakehatecrimes.org/

Cardinal Pell, the number three man at the Vatican was convicted today in Australia. :twisted:

Hail Satan !

Thanks for the updates!

Just think of how proud you will be when your children look like you....imagine how wonderful it will be to provide them with a proper racial upbringing celebrating their own racial heritage etc. Life is too short to waste valuable time my friend; manage your time here wisely.

:lol: lmfao ! :lol:

on a side note, Barry Fell wrote an American classic titled " America B.C. - Ancient Settlers in the New World " - great read for those that are interested. The book explores what HP mentions - sites on the Atlantic Coast.

its brother Nathanael's cousin lol

In light of Jewish actor, Jussie Smollett's recent fake reporting of a hate crime by rabid Trump fans... Interesting website that builds on Laird Wilcoxs book " Crying Wolf " : FakeHateCrimes.Org --------- Article on Jussie Smollett...

The Israelis should be so proud...lol after all they are launching from American soil on an "American" Falcon that is undoubtedly build on stolen technology from a company founded by another opportunistic con artist Jew... Pure theft, always the modus operandi of the Jew nation.

The Goyim know! Shut it down! :D

Security Guard Edduin Khaleb Zelaya Grunfeld Shoots M-F Transgender ‘Furry Potato’ Livestreaming Outside Chabad School in Los Angeles (a very good example of how violent Jews are .. note how these people are spinning this incident) Here is the live stream video: https://youtu.be/XcHzl7WsM0w...

Thank you HP for educating us on this issue.

don't forget she is part owner of Goat Hill Pizza in San Francisco...where child trafficking has been documented for some time now.

the value is placed on the actual labor, not the speculative end of the transaction. This is a paradigm shift that moves away from the capitalist speculation, IMO.

Abby Martin seems like a self hating hive minded Jew....I remember her videos with Jesse Ventura on 9/11. Fucking Kikes.

"Joe Rogan responds to Alex Jones" : lol Rogan sounds nervous to me https://youtu.be/B93fUUiuwMs interestingly, the guy on the show w Rogan is Brian Reichle : https://twitter.com/redban/status/433134276323082240 one thing is for sure, there is no business like the shoah business...

LMFAO Alex Jones: "Jesus Instructed Me To Destroy Joe Rogan" https://youtu.be/0ISRgcEv03o

(giant Jew turf war, CIA Chief visits EU) article title Feb 12 2019 "Mike Pompeo is bringing the hammer down on Huawei on his European tour" https://www.thisisinsider.com/mike-pompeo-slams-huawei-on-his-european-tour-2019-2 US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has upped the pressure on...

Hail Satan!

Welcome to the JOS. HAIL SATAN

Hail SATAN!

Yes, as a matter of fact, 5 USA intelligence agencies warned against civilians using the phones and also there is legislation going in to ban government employees from using them as well.

Larissa I agree...I keep coming back thinking about all the dots HP just connected for me. " Trump's battle against China is the signal of a major change in which on some serious level the selling of America out the back door is being challenged."

Wow...interesting. Sick fucks the lot of them.

HAIL SATAN!

I just tried to post on the first topic...Thank you again for helping me understand the context of Huawei. I am amazed that Sabrina Wanzhou Meng is still in actual custody.

Thank you HP

You are 100% correct HP, 'Obama the limousine Marxist' cut roughly 200 senior military generals, staff etc in a period of 5 years. It was 100% a strategic purge. More to that, now the nation is left with NeoCon Generals like Flynn, Mattis, McMaster, Dunford, Kelly etc,,,all these guys, most...

Thank you Sir!

Are there any reliable sources or books that document his incarceration?

I use wild crafted raw dry sap 'white' and 'black' (Copal Blanco / Negro - Central Mexican Bursera) to clear the space for ritual. It works for me. For what its worth, I always feel good about using it and I seek it out from legit sources when I can.

Happy New Year HP Thank you very, very much for this Sermon ... it hits the spot. HAIL SATAN

is that so Eric?

Happy New Year my friend 8-) Hail Satan!

Fucking unbelievable

My friend, Come to the United States of America. It is here that you will find the best opportunity.

Thank you for sharing this work!!

God it must suck to be Jewish.

Lobsters too...something about them.

Larissa, if you study (numismatics) ancient Pagan / Hellenistic coins...you will see the frequent use of the Dolphin image on coins etc They are indeed fascinating animals Happy New Year!!

HP thank you for clearing the Saturn issue up and giving us another perspective. As a Capricorn I was a bit worried lol. I am one of those that thought everything you just mentioned.

very Interesting, Thank you for sharing your work with us.

I am curious to see them forcibly militarize. I am noticing both the left and the American right Fox (((media))) is turning on Trumps decision to pull out of Syria as well. The mask is off. lol April 9th is definitely a (((gimmick)))

Thank you for this Wisdom Cheers!

Thank you!! Many blessings to you Sir! Hail Satan!

I suddenly have an image of T-Rex doing push-ups :mrgreen:

You are correct and I agree with you. Thank you for the reminder.

I tend to believe Mueller is a Deep State actor - when he let off David Azimov, Issac Azimov's son, in the largest child porn processor / hub in CA history, he got promoted and in my opinion he declared himself and ultimately has become a pillar in the Deep State apparatus. Look up the case...

After viewing the Economist cover, a part of me feels like this organized yellow vest protest is just a Jewish purge valve to release societal pressure; especially now we have what appears to be false flag activity. Combined with Macron giving in to some tax demands and pay issues. feels like...

Apologies, you misunderstood my text; Cardinal Pell is the number three official - as in number 3 in the line of succession to the Pope.

Cleon's Instagram, Bragging about painting the Rothschild's racing trimaran https://www.instagram.com/p/BSbd5uTDGTY/

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/256057 Jewish Cemetery damaged with "88" in Strasbourg Oy Vey!

https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/francis-refashions-council-cardinals-removing-pell-and-err-zuriz good morning everyone, THE #3 Vatican official (Vatican's Prefect of the Secretariat for the Economy), Cardinal George Pell, was convicted in Australia by his peers for Sexually...

Strasbourg shooting? any insight?

reports of 400+ arrests in Brussels. reports of 100+ arrests in Greece.

Thank you again HP. I copy all of this for my children to one day read. All of it. Many thanks.

AdamP, how did you find the JOS btw?

Adam Phosphor, MANY THANKS for this!! Very cool stuff. 5: MYSTERY REVEALED The final mystery is revealed as Luke disappears and no one can find him until Episode VII. Where is he? We don’t know what happens to Luke from the time he is young, to the time he is old… and the reason is because in...

apologies, the "Wheel of Fortune" is Germany , France and Netherlands.

Dragon , thank you for the great info. Look at the Wheel of Fortune - French Presidential candidates?

anyone here with firsthand knowledge?