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it would be easier for me to get rid of this useless term, which only confuses me and, in fact, explains nothing.

That's because you made up a random explanation of karma. What you describe isn't karma. Karma isn't about the Gods punishing you for something you don't remember.

Karma is literally reaping what you sow. You work hard on relationships in past lives, you have good relations with people in this life, because it's in your soul. You have attuned your energy to that of happy relationships. But if you treated others like dirt in your past lives, you don't "get" a happy soulmate marriage and best friends who enrich your life in this life because you never worked for that. This is one example, and of course there is more to it than just that but this is a basic explanation.

Karma can be fixed, bad karma can be overcome but it requires work. Munka freeing the soul workings, plus actual effort of changing your behavior and learning and practice.

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#1

Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

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#2

Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

Much more powerful. There have been different testimonial posts in the forum about the Advanced Purifications Ritual. I suggest you give them a read.

I performed it several times, and I can totally confirm its purification power. I suggest everyone inquire about it. You never know how much time it will be available on HoO...

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#3

Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

Much more powerful. There have been different testimonial posts in the forum about the Advanced Purifications Ritual. I suggest you give them a read.

I performed it several times, and I can totally confirm its purification power. I suggest everyone inquire about it. You never know how much time it will be available on HoO...

I hope I can get it in time, I'm currently in my 5th year of university, I do temporary jobs and I don't have enough money to buy it, also I think the ritual will always be there, it's just that the price of each ritual will skyrocket.

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#4

Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

Much more powerful. There have been different testimonial posts in the forum about the Advanced Purifications Ritual. I suggest you give them a read.

I performed it several times, and I can totally confirm its purification power. I suggest everyone inquire about it. You never know how much time it will be available on HoO...

Why should it no longer be available?

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#5

In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

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Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

Much more powerful. There have been different testimonial posts in the forum about the Advanced Purifications Ritual. I suggest you give them a read.

I performed it several times, and I can totally confirm its purification power. I suggest everyone inquire about it. You never know how much time it will be available on HoO...

I hope I can get it in time, I'm currently in my 5th year of university, I do temporary jobs and I don't have enough money to buy it, also I think the ritual will always be there, it's just that the price of each ritual will skyrocket.

I wouldn't be so sure about it. Many rituals are no longer available now, so you don't know if or when the High Priest may decide to remove others that are currently available. You should secure what you need most.

Hi HPS, I have a question about Munka. If I buy the ritual in the HoS for soul purification, is it much more powerful than Munka?

Much more powerful. There have been different testimonial posts in the forum about the Advanced Purifications Ritual. I suggest you give them a read.

I performed it several times, and I can totally confirm its purification power. I suggest everyone inquire about it. You never know how much time it will be available on HoO...

Why should it no longer be available?

I am not the High Priest, so I cannot answer on his behalf. Nevertheless, the Gods give the knowledge to him, and he, in his generosity, allows us to get it. Knowledge that was available only to the highest roles in Egyptian society, and some of them only to the Pharaohs.

In life, opportunities arise, and you either seize them or let them pass you by.

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In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

Why are you talking like there is no continuation?

Does it make sense if ''a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment'' are just randomly decided? Those changes are the result of the life you had is the only plausible explanation I can think of. It is your soul, it is not another person.

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#8

What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life?

As I said in an above post, this can happen, and very much does happen, in just one lifetime as well. Things I considered just and right 10 years ago are absolute madness and stupidity to me now that I've grown.

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In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

Why are you talking like there is no continuation?

Does it make sense if ''a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment'' are just randomly decided? Those changes are the result of the life you had is the only plausible explanation I can think of. It is your soul, it is not another person.

But the soul changes over time as well, in other words, how can karma influence something that is no longer itself? Take, for example, a caterpillar and a butterfly—these are two completely different forms of existence that are connected only indirectly. When a caterpillar transforms, it ceases to be a caterpillar, its entire way of life vanishes, and even the world begins to perceive it differently. A person might hate a caterpillar but delight in the beautiful sight of a butterfly. A person would be more likely to kill a caterpillar than to kill a beautiful, flying creature with bright wings. In other words, it seems to me that karma is not something that follows us from a past life, but merely the results of what we have experienced in this life in the past and what we will experience in this same life in the future. I have a vague, intuitive, yet strong feeling that karma has nothing to do with past lives, and this thought won’t leave me alone. There’s a certain force inside me, something like a curiosity, that wants to examine this concept from every angle and uncover the truth, including clearing the term itself of all the clutter and making it clearer in a practical sense. Because to say, for example, “You’re suffering because you were a sinner in a past life”— Or "You’re enjoying yourself because in a past life you were a philanthropist" that explains nothing. I see in this a form of intellectual laziness that, through sluggish metaphysics, attempts to explain the workings of the world. The existence of habits explains future consequences. The concept of cause and effect does as well. The saying “you reap what you sow” does too, all of this explains the world. But the idea that a person is responsible for the consequences of a past life really troubles me and won’t let me rest.

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#10

In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

Why are you talking like there is no continuation?

Does it make sense if ''a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment'' are just randomly decided? Those changes are the result of the life you had is the only plausible explanation I can think of. It is your soul, it is not another person.

But the soul changes over time as well, in other words, how can karma influence something that is no longer itself? Take, for example, a caterpillar and a butterfly—these are two completely different forms of existence that are connected only indirectly. When a caterpillar transforms, it ceases to be a caterpillar, its entire way of life vanishes, and even the world begins to perceive it differently. A person might hate a caterpillar but delight in the beautiful sight of a butterfly. A person would be more likely to kill a caterpillar than to kill a beautiful, flying creature with bright wings. In other words, it seems to me that karma is not something that follows us from a past life, but merely the results of what we have experienced in this life in the past and what we will experience in this same life in the future. I have a vague, intuitive, yet strong feeling that karma has nothing to do with past lives, and this thought won’t leave me alone. There’s a certain force inside me, something like a curiosity, that wants to examine this concept from every angle and uncover the truth, including clearing the term itself of all the clutter and making it clearer in a practical sense. Because to say, for example, “You’re suffering because you were a sinner in a past life”— Or "You’re enjoying yourself because in a past life you were a philanthropist" that explains nothing. I see in this a form of intellectual laziness that, through sluggish metaphysics, attempts to explain the workings of the world. The existence of habits explains future consequences. The concept of cause and effect does as well. The saying “you reap what you sow” does too, all of this explains the world. But the idea that a person is responsible for the consequences of a past life really troubles me and won’t let me rest.

Brother Black Magic, members here are trying to help you by explaining what karma is, and even the High Priestess Herself gave you the right explanation. You can make all the comparisons you want, but this won't change what karma is.

As I have written in other messages, knowing your past lives is useful only to a certain degree. For an Initiate, what is important to know is that this can be your first life, or you may have had one or more lives before. In the latter case, your past lives can influence your current one. Through magick, you can work on bad karma from past lives and purify your soul. The purification and spiritual progress you make in this life will also carry into the next one.

If you have problems in one aspect of your current life, knowing that they came from X event in a past life mostly satisfies your curiosity. What actually matters is recognizing that you have a problem there, possibly also confirmed by your natal chart, and actively working to fix it.

You are free to question and examine these things, but if you reject every explanation because it doesn't match your personal idea of how karma should work, then the discussion will just keep going in circles.

You can either take into consideration what people are explaining to you here, or ignore it and continue pondering what you may or may not have done in past lives.

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In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

Why are you talking like there is no continuation?

Does it make sense if ''a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment'' are just randomly decided? Those changes are the result of the life you had is the only plausible explanation I can think of. It is your soul, it is not another person.

But the soul changes over time as well, in other words, how can karma influence something that is no longer itself? Take, for example, a caterpillar and a butterfly—these are two completely different forms of existence that are connected only indirectly. When a caterpillar transforms, it ceases to be a caterpillar, its entire way of life vanishes, and even the world begins to perceive it differently. A person might hate a caterpillar but delight in the beautiful sight of a butterfly. A person would be more likely to kill a caterpillar than to kill a beautiful, flying creature with bright wings. In other words, it seems to me that karma is not something that follows us from a past life, but merely the results of what we have experienced in this life in the past and what we will experience in this same life in the future. I have a vague, intuitive, yet strong feeling that karma has nothing to do with past lives, and this thought won’t leave me alone. There’s a certain force inside me, something like a curiosity, that wants to examine this concept from every angle and uncover the truth, including clearing the term itself of all the clutter and making it clearer in a practical sense. Because to say, for example, “You’re suffering because you were a sinner in a past life”— Or "You’re enjoying yourself because in a past life you were a philanthropist" that explains nothing. I see in this a form of intellectual laziness that, through sluggish metaphysics, attempts to explain the workings of the world. The existence of habits explains future consequences. The concept of cause and effect does as well. The saying “you reap what you sow” does too, all of this explains the world. But the idea that a person is responsible for the consequences of a past life really troubles me and won’t let me rest.

What it looks to me like you keep missing is that change isn't random: it happens as a result of every influence you're subject to, including the influence of your own actions, which is your personal karma.

Regardless of whether it's this life or another life, you're still you. All of the accumulated experience is your experience, not somebody else's.

We use the word karma because that's the Sanskrit word for it, and Sanskrit, like Greek, is a sacred language that conveys much more than mundane languages such as modern languages.

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In a previous life, I had a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment for sure in which I could grow up. If we assume that if all these factors change, then I am no longer Me from a previous life, but another person, but I can't be responsible for other people I don't even know? What if this person considers one thing to be good, and I consider another thing to be good in this life? And it turns out that if I made a mistake in my previous life doing good and actually doing bad, then it turns out that in this life I should experience the consequences of this act? "What you sow is what you reap," I agree with that, but the point here is that I was a completely different person from my previous life and "he" sowed, not me

Why are you talking like there is no continuation?

Does it make sense if ''a different brain, a different biochemistry, different circumstances, a different culture, and a different environment'' are just randomly decided? Those changes are the result of the life you had is the only plausible explanation I can think of. It is your soul, it is not another person.

But the soul changes over time as well, in other words, how can karma influence something that is no longer itself? Take, for example, a caterpillar and a butterfly—these are two completely different forms of existence that are connected only indirectly. When a caterpillar transforms, it ceases to be a caterpillar, its entire way of life vanishes, and even the world begins to perceive it differently. A person might hate a caterpillar but delight in the beautiful sight of a butterfly. A person would be more likely to kill a caterpillar than to kill a beautiful, flying creature with bright wings. In other words, it seems to me that karma is not something that follows us from a past life, but merely the results of what we have experienced in this life in the past and what we will experience in this same life in the future. I have a vague, intuitive, yet strong feeling that karma has nothing to do with past lives, and this thought won’t leave me alone. There’s a certain force inside me, something like a curiosity, that wants to examine this concept from every angle and uncover the truth, including clearing the term itself of all the clutter and making it clearer in a practical sense. Because to say, for example, “You’re suffering because you were a sinner in a past life”— Or "You’re enjoying yourself because in a past life you were a philanthropist" that explains nothing. I see in this a form of intellectual laziness that, through sluggish metaphysics, attempts to explain the workings of the world. The existence of habits explains future consequences. The concept of cause and effect does as well. The saying “you reap what you sow” does too, all of this explains the world. But the idea that a person is responsible for the consequences of a past life really troubles me and won’t let me rest.

Brother Black Magic, members here are trying to help you by explaining what karma is, and even the High Priestess Herself gave you the right explanation. You can make all the comparisons you want, but this won't change what karma is.

As I have written in other messages, knowing your past lives is useful only to a certain degree. For an Initiate, what is important to know is that this can be your first life, or you may have had one or more lives before. In the latter case, your past lives can influence your current one. Through magick, you can work on bad karma from past lives and purify your soul. The purification and spiritual progress you make in this life will also carry into the next one.

It's strange that I didn't immediately see your answer in the notifications, yes, this is literally what I came to today by studying the ancient philosophy of Greece myself. And now I completely agree with the fact that we carry with us the progress and all the accumulated experience of our soul. Looking at your answer, which I noticed only now, I am even more convinced that I have come to the right conclusion. The only thing I was disagreed with was that actions alone affect the next lives on their own without affecting the soul itself. Now that everything has made sense, I can only say thank you for your help.

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