What did the hebrews do right?

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

If we go back 3000 years, everyone had an ethnoreligion, and God/the Gods were adapted to each people's culture. This was the norm back then. Today it's more so the exception. Christianity and Islam played a massive role in all this of course. These two religions managed to outcompete all other religions in the Western Hemisphere and every land they conquered destroyed the Pagan ehtno-religions there, with the notable exception of India, perhaps due to the sheer population of Hindus there, nonethless Islam did establish a strong prescence there albeit not a supreme one. Interestingly, the hebrews survived all this and never truly suffered significant damage from christianity or islam. Even before the rise of Christianity and Islam, other nations, powerful ones such as Egypt and Babylon lost to other Pagan empires and their identities dissolved over time, with what's left today being a shadow of what once was. Hebrews even brag about this, that they survived as an ancient people while others lost their identities and adopted newer, husk versions of what they had.

Why did the priesthoods and sages of Rome, Greece, Egypt, Babylon, ect all fail so miserably to preserve the ethno-religious identity of their people, but hebrews succeeded, despite not having an army, their temple destroyed, their people massacred and scattered several times, yet they survived all of this for over 2000 years under the rule of 2 religions which if you read their texts hated them. Supremacy and distrusts of outsiders can't be the reasons since everyone had those ideas. All nations strongly promoted they were "the best", that alone doesn't explain it.

Nothing that hebrews have whether surface-level theology or deep mysticism is either original or in any way superior than what the Greek and Egyptian sages had. And yet, the hebrew sages were the ones who survived meanwhile we're in the process of ressurecting a corpse of Western Pagan mysticism from dusty texts that were lucky enough to survive both the erosion of time and xian/muslim vandalism. Their line of sages is essentially unbroken for the last three millenia, meanwhile even our High Priest was raised a Christian.

Despite all the powerful rituals against Izfet that the Egyptian priesthood had, Egypt fell to Izfet anyway, and yet the hebrews did not.


Older ideas from here which may still be true was that Christians and Muslims through worship empowered the Hebrew "God" which indirectly kept the hebrews existing as a people, however this explanation seems rather shallow to me. Christianity and Islam's relationship towards to Judaism has been fundamenally antagonistic from the start. Hebrews were always strongly villified and associated with the deepest evils in both of these religions. Logically speaking they should have dissappeared or at least have strongly diminished under Christianity and Islam by now, and yet they didn't, even when it was materially advantageous to convert to either religion and just assimilate.

It makes me wonder what exactly did the rabbis do right that the Egyptian, Greek, Roman and Babylonian sages were not able to do themselves? When the hebrews lost their kindgom, priesthood and temple, they got stronger as an in-group, while the other cultures simply dissolved, despite what I believe must have been the best spiritual effort of the respectful sages of these Pagan nations to prevent this cultural erosion.

It could definently help us perservere and thrive by doing in an ethical, Zevist fashion whatever the rabbis did to preserve our spiritual nation, although I'm certain that our Clergy already know what that is, but a deeper explanation into all this would be educational and appreciated.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

I am not impressed that Izfet, when collectively mismanagement at various times and places, temporarily succeeded against the dwindling Olympian Imposition within Man.

All the Yehubor did was use the eternal substrate of chaos, which takes no effort to maintain, and weaponized it for mass infection.

MA'AT must be continuously maintained and cultivated, and that wasn't something that ordinary people cared about 2500 years ago, not dissimilar to today.

Thankfully, the Temple of Zeus is the first religion, perhaps maybe ever, to promote all that is True and Good to the world in a rate unseen before thanks to the web.

Have faith and don't be too impressed by those who can open a jar of disease that is airborne.

 

[Carnifex Law]

Hebrews make this claim of being the only one who survived as if the romans arent still there, they just are known as italians now just like russians nordics iberians anglo saxons etc. And although race mixing people are still a minority in white races, hebrews also pratice race mixing. Also given the new updates it seems logical to conclude that hebrews are just a white phenotype despite the fact they began practicing racial superiority doctrines towards their neighbouring tribes which extended into a global doctrine of supremacy and strange distancing towards the rest of the white race. I met an israeli family that migrated to my area, and they really just struck me as a white people, perhaps different , but in the same way a russian is completely different to an italian. However im still up do debate whether they are more inclined towards yehubor practices as race. As its not normal to be the target of thousands of pogroms across history.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what I wrote. It’s not so much that the hebrews remained as a people but that their sages and tradition survived so long.

There’s a lot of racist, delusional nonsense in that tradition but also certain things that they did and kept that allowed them to be here, meanwhile the sages of Greece and Egypt are long gone and their lines of passing their wisdom down died out thousands of years ago, only being seriously resurfaced today. That’s the part I am interested in, which neither reply here has truly touched or I think even understood.

If it was as simple as saying they were “steeped in Izfet”, they should have been among the first people to dissapear. You can call their sages yehubor, delusional or even foolish, but they still actually have sages. Where did the sages of Greece and Egypt go? They couldn’t stop the waves of yehubor, while the sages of the hebrews maintained a serious occult tradition and survived despite their masses being yehubor themselves on top of serious persecution from christians and muslims at times.


Knowing magick influences reality, I’ll ask again but perhaps with more detail. What did the sages of the hebrews do on a spiritual level that allowed them to survive as an occult group that the sages of Egypt and other nations were not able to do?

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

I think there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what I wrote. It’s not so much that the hebrews remained as a people but that their sages and tradition survived so long.

There’s a lot of racist, delusional nonsense in that tradition but also certain things that they did and kept that allowed them to be here, meanwhile the sages of Greece and Egypt are long gone and their lines of passing their wisdom down died out thousands of years ago, only being seriously resurfaced today. That’s the part I am interested in, which neither reply here has truly touched or I think even understood.

If it was as simple as saying they were “steeped in Izfet”, they should have been among the first people to dissapear. You can call their sages yehubor, delusional or even foolish, but they still actually have sages. Where did the sages of Greece and Egypt go? They couldn’t stop the waves of yehubor, while the sages of the hebrews maintained a serious occult tradition and survived despite their masses being yehubor themselves on top of serious persecution from christians and muslims at times.


Knowing magick influences reality, I’ll ask again but perhaps with more detail. What did the sages of the hebrews do on a spiritual level that allowed them to survive as an occult group that the sages of Egypt and other nations were not able to do?

The endurance of a priesthood within any culture or tradition depends on sustained support from the surrounding community. Beginning in the Roman Imperial period and continuing into the modern era, much of the population gradually adopted a Yehuboric framework, most notably through Christianity and Islam. During this shift, Jewish communities maintained continuity in their religious identity and practice. However, this continuity is less extraordinary when viewed against the broader span of ancient history, particularly given that rabbinic culture as a distinct historical development is generally traced to the period between approximately 200 and 600 CE.

Furthermore, as previously mentioned, maintaining MA’AT is laborious, and those men and women who did so were at odds with the popular tendency toward Izfet. That is something that the Rabbis were largely unaffected by, considering their communal support within their own culture and tradition. And Judaic culture seems to operate fine within a Yehuboric atmosphere, likely owing to the fact that it shares commonalities with the pathologies that tend toward Izfet.

Are you impressed that they are here today? Well, so is High Priest Zevios Metathronos.

 

[Hidden Warrior [SG]]

Egyptian dynasties lasted thousand and thousand of years. It is true, in the end those civilizations didn't last, but their duration is a data that shouldn't be overlooked.
Moreover, they were big civilizations, and the bigger a civilization is, the more difficult is to maintain it. Internal conflicts, astrological events, external attacks on borders from other tribes and nations can bring difficult times for a civilization.

Hebrews haven't done nothing more than previous populations haven't done. Abrahamic's religions are declining more and more, which tells you well that they culture may keep existing or not in the future, as it happened with many past civilizations.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Are you impressed that they are here today? Well, so is High Priest Zevios Metathronos.

I was comparing entire tradtional lines of sages. What HP did was far more impressive. He wasn’t surrounded by programming of Theophoric religion. Like most of us he was raised in a yehuboric religion void of any occult knowledge. He learned these things himself, having to remove programming that was put into him by xianity like it was on us.

It’s not fair to compare a millenia old tradition with a single remarkable being like him. It’s not a correct comparison. He is aiming to bring back occult traditions that have been long abandoned and that is a far greater achievement than just surviving like the hebrew sages did.

That being said he did have Lady Pythia as his teacher. That’s far more valuable than having hundreds of rabbis to learn from.

What their sages do have though is tradition that has survived, adapted and reworked itself towards the modern age. True development of a proper Pagan alternative was halted a millennia ago. There is no unbroken line today that stretches back to even two thousand years ago, unless you count the Hindus.

His job is far harder than theirs, and it makes him deserving of respect far more than them.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

I was comparing entire tradtional lines of sages. What HP did was far more impressive. He wasn’t surrounded by programming of Theophoric religion. Like most of us he was raised in a yehuboric religion void of any occult knowledge. He learned these things himself, having to remove programming that was put into him by xianity like it was on us.

It’s not fair to compare a millenia old tradition with a single remarkable being like him. It’s not a correct comparison. He is aiming to bring back occult traditions that have been long abandoned and that is a far greater achievement than just surviving like the hebrew sages did.

That being said he did have Lady Pythia as his teacher. That’s far more valuable than having hundreds of rabbis to learn from.

What their sages do have though is tradition that has survived, adapted and reworked itself towards the modern age. True development of a proper Pagan alternative was halted a millennia ago. There is no unbroken line today that stretches back to even two thousand years ago, unless you count the Hindus.

His job is far harder than theirs, and it makes him deserving of respect far more than them.

Yes. It is very impressive.

Why are you not acknowledging that your question has been answered, though?

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Yes. It is very impressive.

Why are you not acknowledging that your question has been answered, though?

I do agree and was probably leaning on the answer that it was due to the masses allowing and fostering an environment that was able to produce and maintain these traditions.

Christianity and Islam are fundamentally anti-occult and suffocated any real attempt at development besides sad parodies of kabbalah, also known as “western esotericism”. Mainstream Judaism is not anti-occult, and its fundamentalist wing is outright occult in belief and practice. That may be the primary reason why rather than it being due to the sages of any culture.

 

[The Jackal]

Despite all the powerful rituals against Izfet that the Egyptian priesthood had, Egypt fell to Izfet anyway, and yet the hebrews did not.

Is that so? You're forgetting that there is only so much you can do, when planets align against you. And there are of course great collapses when new age comes. 4.2 kiloyear event which started Age of Aries, Fall of Rome and fraud of abrahamic religions which started Age of Pisces,... Note how Egypt was still around during past disasters because Egyptian priesthood softened the blow. Upcoming Age of Aquarius is already showing this same cycle of collapse that will destroy the structure of the Yehuboric global elite.

Also Jews DID fell to Izfet the moment their leaders started being best buddies with certain space lizards and killed off rest of their tribe that stayed loyal to the Gods. They were just nomadic, so records are not that obvious.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Is that so? You're forgetting that there is only so much you can do, when planets align against you. And there are of course great collapses when new age comes. 4.2 kiloyear event which started Age of Aries, Fall of Rome and fraud of abrahamic religions which started Age of Pisces,... Note how Egypt was still around during past disasters because Egyptian priesthood softened the blow. Upcoming Age of Aquarius is already showing this same cycle of collapse that will destroy the structure of the Yehuboric global elite.

Also Jews DID fell to Izfet the moment their leaders started being best buddies with certain space lizards and killed off rest of their tribe that stayed loyal to the Gods. They were just nomadic, so records are not that obvious.

What I meant more so here was that the Egypt of today is not the Egypt of thousands of years ago. The culture, religion, language and spiritual elite all faded due to all the reasons you cited.

My main aim behind this thread is to ensure that TOZ doesn’t suffer the same fate. I think with Aquarius we will have masses that are at the very least indifferent to out existence rather than hostile, but preferably open to joining us.

What I think is unique with the hebrews, especially the orthodox types is how many practices we do here are actually common among them. The main problem is when that energy is aimed towards yehuboric purposes.

I think this is why hebrews and indians were both highly resistant to xianity and islam. The spiritual practices built an immune system against these “religions” that other peoples did not have.

In HP’s latest video on them, he said there were some good things in the mysticsm of the rabbis but those were very much mixed in with all the abominable things within judaism which everyone here is all too familiar with.

This is why I wondered if those rabbis did certain things to be able to survive among the yehuboric culture they were raised around. Perhaps it was just hiding and blending in as HP said that kept them from being persecuted by the yehubor.

Perhaps the spiritual elite of antiquity were not interested in hiding or blending in as they didnt see xianity as a serious threat (which makes me ask how they didn’t forsee it?) and were caught off guard, or weren’t willing to compete as strongly for followers and just wanted to be left alone which ultimately was not good.

 

[Lucius Invictus [NG]]

@Acolyte Of Pan 666
At this point, I think you know the answer to your question, along with the supportive arguments by several members.

You already know why Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are around today, along with their corresponding "Priesthoods." They excel in the environments that they perpetuate. This is not something that the clergy need to learn, as there is nothing to gain from imitating the ability of a virus to adapt to its host and to thrive in its own chaos.

 

[Fahari]

What I meant more so here was that the Egypt of today is not the Egypt of thousands of years ago.

He probably meant Egypt as a Theophoric cultures with a lifespan of 4000+ yrs
Others like sumer , Zoroastrian,vedics ones have timelines that span similar ages,
The Hebrew one is around 2000 yrs old, The majority of it part was greatly overshadowed by other cultures,
Hebrew and it fellow offshoots can credit their success to the dark ages and the vast and brutal conquests those in practice of them inflicted into the world,

What 'They' did right was spread and maintain their cultures in the easiest and most effective yehuboric methods available, and no!!!! Genocides, Corruption, destruction of knowledge, erasure of Gods,Ethnic cleansing, destruction of pagan faiths and rites won't be how Zevism maintains itself perpetually,,
You borrow their means of success then you are fairly enough 'Them'