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So I see, toz is focusing more on self development rather than the enemy, and cut ties to the WW2 regime?
What of the Rituals?
 
Yes, the enemy was defined more clearly, but the emphasis is on consolidating our Temple and religion. ToZ cut ties to any regime, party, representative - politics as a whole. What do you want to know about the Rituals?
Before there was trouble logging in the live rituals platform, is it working? What about the Rituals can't find it on toz rituals

And the exposing Christianity page is missing
 
Before there was trouble logging in the live rituals platform, is it working? What about the Rituals can't find it on toz rituals

And the exposing Christianity page is missing
The ritual platform in use now is Vultus Templorum. It works and ritual sessions are held there daily.

About that page, I think it's either being updated or won't be up any longer. If a page isn't fixed or running after a long time there's probably a good reason.
 
Yes, the enemy was defined more clearly, but the emphasis is on consolidating our Temple and religion. ToZ cut ties to any regime, party, representative - politics as a whole. What do you want to know about the Rituals?
Sorry to bother you with so many questions, so toz is separated with its past Ties with WW2 regime, but did toz started to comdemn it? And I'm going through the declaration of principles does toz acept everyone ? Even that certain group od people or am I just confused with the overload of information? Thank you.
 
Sorry to bother you with so many questions, so toz is separated with its past Ties with WW2 regime, but did toz started to comdemn it? And I'm going through the declaration of principles does toz acept everyone ? Even that certain group od people or am I just confused with the overload of information? Thank you.
Yes, everyone is accepted. As for crimes against humanity, the Temple of Zeus recognises them wherever they come from.
 
I don't know how to react to this, I guess I'll have to go over all the new information and think and evaluate everything, over the years I have grown to heavily dislike and even hate most yehuborim for their crimes against humanity and though I'm not a political person I partly agreed with WW2 regime and after some study agreed that in fact the narrative of the WW2 is a lie, and Yehuba is the leading cause of suffering n the modern world, some people here even saw figure of the past as a hero myself included, even as a demigod or a holy person, and many times here on the forums I have witnessed high ranking members rejecting people trying to join because they had Jewish ancestry, the common narrative was that yehuborim were of a different origin had a different soul incompatible with the path of the gods, so all that past views are thrown out? how this new information/criteria came into being? can someone clear that for me I'm having trouble coming into terms with these changes, and no one answered about the reverse ritual that was done daily?

Yes, everyone is accepted. As for crimes against humanity, the Temple of Zeus recognises them wherever they come from.

Greetings to both,

No, the head High Priest didn't affirm the reality of the WW2 or the mainstream version of WWII. He just issued a general condemnation in reply to a vague question Raphael asked about WWII and then his reply was misunderstood. For specific replies you could ask "do you believe the WW2 was real and condemn it now?

The dissociation of WW2 regime is about making the site non-political, not affirming the mainstream narrative about WWII. So far no one has stated that to be a Zevist you must blindly believe in the WW2.
 
Greetings to both,

No, the head High Priest didn't affirm the reality of the WW2 or the mainstream version of WWII. He just issued a general condemnation in reply to a vague question Raphael asked about WWII and then his reply was misunderstood. For specific replies you could ask "do you believe the WW2 was real and condemn it now?

The dissociation of WW2 regime is about making the site non-political, not affirming the mainstream narrative about WWII. So far no one has stated that to be a Zevist you must blindly believe in the WW2.

"Shoah"/mass murder of hebrews got automatically replaced by WW2 in above post. Keep that in mind when reading it.
 
I don't know how to react to this, I guess I'll have to go over all the new information and think and evaluate everything, over the years I have grown to heavily dislike and even hate most yehuborim for their crimes against humanity and though I'm not a political person I partly agreed with WW2 regime and after some study agreed that in fact the narrative of the WW2 is a lie, and Yehuba is the leading cause of suffering n the modern world, some people here even saw figure of the past as a hero myself included, even as a demigod or a holy person, and many times here on the forums I have witnessed high ranking members rejecting people trying to join because they had Jewish ancestry, the common narrative was that yehuborim were of a different origin had a different soul incompatible with the path of the gods, so all that past views are thrown out? how this new information/criteria came into being? can someone clear that for me I'm having trouble coming into terms with these changes, and no one answered about the reverse ritual that was done daily?

The problem is that nobody can understand reality through politics. Politics is the organized, regional, survival and interest driven pursuit of political aims for ONE specific group people, over another.

What people hate in Modern Day Israel is that Izfet and Yehubor, two major pathologies of evil, have overtaken many people there and their government. This situation has been ongoing and the first victims of this were also Ancient Israelis who worshiped Astarte and the Gods in their past; they were butchered by their own "Compatriots" for "Pagan Worship" and the worship of the Ancient Gods was equated with the death penalty in the region.

The above, was politicization of religion; not religion. Judaism is mostly politics; "How one God exists, all must follow him, and obey or die in the hellfire". It's not religious based truth, it's a political doctrine that used religious language under the guidance of Yehubor.

The results of this we see now; genocides, aeons long hatred, bombings of hospitals, a history of persecution and evil on all sides, a cycle of destruction toward and against Israelis who adopted this.

The core issue behind it all, is that those who leave the Gods and impart Yehubor, are going to be hated, as Yehubor commands the 10 pathologies to enter into everything; this destroys the adherents and can destroy their life also.

One will never understand reality from a political standpoint, as politics are always particular interests involved; Truth is bent to cover the need to just benefit the segment that the politics serve.

Therefore, see the topic outside of Politics, and you will see the facts about it. Distance is required; politics means you translate everything through political language. Zevism removes the filter of politics, so one can see things clearly.
 
The problem is that nobody can understand reality through politics. Politics is the organized, regional, survival and interest driven pursuit of political aims for ONE specific group people, over another.

What people hate in Modern Day Israel is that Izfet and Yehubor, two major pathologies of evil, have overtaken many people there and their government. This situation has been ongoing and the first victims of this were also Ancient Israelis who worshiped Astarte and the Gods in their past; they were butchered by their own "Compatriots" for "Pagan Worship" and the worship of the Ancient Gods was equated with the death penalty in the region.

The above, was politicization of religion; not religion. Judaism is mostly politics; "How one God exists, all must follow him, and obey or die in the hellfire". It's not religious based truth, it's a political doctrine that used religious language under the guidance of Yehubor.

The results of this we see now; genocides, aeons long hatred, bombings of hospitals, a history of persecution and evil on all sides, a cycle of destruction toward and against Israelis who adopted this.

The core issue behind it all, is that those who leave the Gods and impart Yehubor, are going to be hated, as Yehubor commands the 10 pathologies to enter into everything; this destroys the adherents and can destroy their life also.

One will never understand reality from a political standpoint, as politics are always particular interests involved; Truth is bent to cover the need to just benefit the segment that the politics serve.

Therefore, see the topic outside of Politics, and you will see the facts about it. Distance is required; politics means you translate everything through political language. Zevism removes the filter of politics, so one can see things clearly.
I understand but at first almost looks like toz/ToZ did an 180º

Now yehuborim are accepted before was unthinkable

I can't even mention the Austriaan painter it's automatically censored by Ai, and it's all code words


Should I keep doing the reverse ritual we did almost every day?


How did HP cobra Co. É to this decision how did this state of things came about is there any article explaining.
 
The problem is that nobody can understand reality through politics. Politics is the organized, regional, survival and interest driven pursuit of political aims for ONE specific group people, over another.

What people hate in Modern Day Israel is that Izfet and Yehubor, two major pathologies of evil, have overtaken many people there and their government. This situation has been ongoing and the first victims of this were also Ancient Israelis who worshiped Astarte and the Gods in their past; they were butchered by their own "Compatriots" for "Pagan Worship" and the worship of the Ancient Gods was equated with the death penalty in the region.

The above, was politicization of religion; not religion. Judaism is mostly politics; "How one God exists, all must follow him, and obey or die in the hellfire". It's not religious based truth, it's a political doctrine that used religious language under the guidance of Yehubor.

The results of this we see now; genocides, aeons long hatred, bombings of hospitals, a history of persecution and evil on all sides, a cycle of destruction toward and against Israelis who adopted this.

The core issue behind it all, is that those who leave the Gods and impart Yehubor, are going to be hated, as Yehubor commands the 10 pathologies to enter into everything; this destroys the adherents and can destroy their life also.

One will never understand reality from a political standpoint, as politics are always particular interests involved; Truth is bent to cover the need to just benefit the segment that the politics serve.

Therefore, see the topic outside of Politics, and you will see the facts about it. Distance is required; politics means you translate everything through political language. Zevism removes the filter of politics, so one can see things clearly.
Sorry for too many questions in a row but I have been around since the yahoo forum times and the change was a bit abrupt, although the joz in general has improved immensely, so because yehuborim are accepted we don't do the R T R anymore?
 
The reverse ritual is not done anymore?
Yes, all influence that the Torah has had on people's perspective of the Gods has been lifted due to our efforts.
We now have the Liturgical Terms and their prayers, which act in a similar-ish way, just far more universal.
 
I don't know how to react to this
You can confidently take members' opinions out of the equation. Members can hate and idolize whoever they want privately (this is not an encouragement), it doesn't change anything in what ToZ stands for. - https://templeofzeus.org/doctrines/DeclarationOfPrinciples.php

About your conditioning to believe and feel certain things, that's honestly expected. It's a psychological process, feelings and convictions usually update last. You can change your conscious thought process and behavior in the meantime. I think watching this will help -

Also keep in mind that someone can't become a major problem unless they're allowed so through weakness, compliance, lack of diligence, etc. It's important to leave the victim mindset behind, and contribute to create a civilization so aware and powerful that nobody can come in and turn its life upside down. Even in this case, attacks or hatred against the average joe who did nothing to cause the great problems you're talking about is not justified.
 
I don't know how to react to this, I guess I'll have to go over all the new information and think and evaluate everything, over the years I have grown to heavily dislike and even hate most yehuborim for their crimes against humanity and though I'm not a political person I partly agreed with WW2 regime and after some study agreed that in fact the narrative of the WW2 is a lie, and Yehuba is the leading cause of suffering n the modern world, some people here even saw figure of the past as a hero myself included, even as a demigod or a holy person, and many times here on the forums I have witnessed high ranking members rejecting people trying to join because they had Jewish ancestry, the common narrative was that yehuborim were of a different origin had a different soul incompatible with the path of the gods, so all that past views are thrown out? how this new information/criteria came into being? can someone clear that for me I'm having trouble coming into terms with these changes, and no one answered about the reverse ritual that was done daily?
Just because the religious class is cancerous (I never really liked the brutality of the religion of Judaism) doesn't mean that all of us are like that. Most are, I agree. I am definitely the black sheep in my family. Also, what is "Yehuba"? And if by "figure of the past" you mean the painter, I don't understand how a person of the Gods could admire such a monster. But we all evolve and that's what matters.
 
I understand but at first almost looks like toz/ToZ did an 180º

Now yehuborim are accepted before was unthinkable

I can't even mention the Austriaan painter it's automatically censored by Ai, and it's all code words


Should I keep doing the reverse ritual we did almost every day?


How did HP cobra Co. É to this decision how did this state of things came about is there any article explaining.

What was unthinkable? Anyone from the planet could browse the site, do meditation and attempt summoning a God. Now, instead of denying this reality, we just say whatever; go ahead, we aren't denying this.

Sorry for too many questions in a row but I have been around since the yahoo forum times and the change was a bit abrupt, although the joz in general has improved immensely, so because yehuborim are accepted we don't do the R T R anymore?

We are going to do more advanced Rituals that will blanket remove Yehuboric forces from everything and diminish everything; therefore, it's not necessary now. It has done what it should do.

Just because the religious class is cancerous (I never really liked the brutality of the religion of Judaism) doesn't mean that all of us are like that. Most are, I agree. I am definitely the black sheep in my family. Also, what is "Yehuba"? And if by "figure of the past" you mean the painter, I don't understand how a person of the Gods could admire such a monster. But we all evolve and that's what matters.

Monster to one, best for another; that's politics. It's how it goes in politics, therefore, in ToZ, no politics.
 
Well "yehuba" was the Ai automatically censoring my text, it's the people of your kind I meant, regarding the painter, you haven't done mutch research have you? Maybe somethings are not what you were told, most was removed from the site to cut ties with the ww2 movement, I do understand wanting to put emphasis on the gods and development but that ww2 movement was also a part of ToZ, some people here even made posts celebrating the painters birthday, I will go over all the new information and meditate on all this changes perhaps the gods will help me get a better understanding
He may have done good deeds for his own, but my people suffered.
 
FYI: That "monster" was a highly spiritual person who received help from the Gods and completed a level of Magnum Opus. He had also many great past lifes.
He may have been involved in the occult, but genocide is not "spiritual". How can I be certain that he "completed the Magnum Opus"? That would only be possible if the Gods forgave him for some reason. In that case, I would not be the one to judge.
 
He may have done good deeds for his own, but my people suffered.

That's the point of politics. They are always good for this people and bad for another people.

As a politician, any politician, you must harm another category to benefit the one you represent. That's normal course in politics.

People of course always support their own interests in these. Therefore, this is why politics is not the Temple of the Gods. Because the Temple must be good for all, not good for this and bad for another.
 
He may have done good deeds for his own, but my people suffered.
Indeed they did. As HP said, political involvement will always result in things like this, maybe not to the magnitude that happened in Germany at that time. But one group will always suffer for the benefit of another. We are not here to repeat or replicate what happened, we are here to rise above it, find deeper solutions against evil, not do extreme moves like that.

He may have been involved in the occult, but genocide is not "spiritual". How can I be certain that he "completed the Magnum Opus"? That would only be possible if the Gods forgave him for some reason. In that case, I would not be the one to judge.
The Magnum Opus is not necessarily a moral thing. Many figures that achieved Apotheosis were morally questionable by today's standards, or even morally questionable in general.
Spiritual power can be obtained without Ethics, this is obvious when looking at the leaders of the ancient Israelite priesthood. That's why ToZ preaches both.

As for "being certain", well, I'm not certain either, I won't state here where I lean on that topic. You don't need to "be certain", in fact, you should do exactly what ToZ has done and is enforcing. Put the past in the past, look towards the future, and not care about gossip of "who achieved what".
We honor and draw from some of the people who achieved the Magnum Opus, but the character we're talking about didn't exactly leave behind any spiritual teachings or things like that, that Zevism would find useful. He did political moves, had some occult involvement but wasn't exactly a creator of new occult knowledge, and his political movement showed the results it showed. Anyone here can do the research, see that it lasted as little as it lasted, see where it did good and where it did very badly, and draw their own political conclusions, correct or ignorant. We want none of those opinions here, to keep the community focused on important matters.
 
FYI: That "monster" was a highly spiritual person who received help from the Gods and completed a level of Magnum Opus. He had also many great past lifes.

I respect him as well but we have to understand that he is only good for a political standpoint and not a spiritual one.

As it has been stated by HP and others, politics really does benefit one side. Much as how any political figure would give it all for his people.

Let’s take Gabrielle D’Annunzio for example, who occupied Rijeka which is in Croatia and created the Free State of Fiume, where he was dissatisfied with the territorial gains of Italy in ww1 and considered the Dalmatia as Italian territory. Hero to the Italian people, not so much for the Croatians.

Your own personal beliefs that have nothing to do with Zevism should be separate.
 
I understand but at first almost looks like toz/ToZ did an 180º

Now yehuborim are accepted before was unthinkable

I can't even mention the Austriaan painter it's automatically censored by Ai, and it's all code words


Should I keep doing the reverse ritual we did almost every day?


How did HP cobra Co. É to this decision how did this state of things came about is there any article explaining.

High Priest has made many clear public explanations on the entire subject answering the questions you ask, even the ones that I have rejected in moderation which you had asked in a deleted post. Whether you like the answer or not, or want to hold onto views and opinions of the past that are not relevant in the Temple of Zeus or the future existence of the Path of Zevism, is up to you, the answers are given.

Temple of Zeus does not exist to cater to your needs to have attachments to 100 years old narrative which is irrelevant in the present day, and is also irrelevant in the face of the eternal Gods. Zevism simply moves past any reductive notions that are senseless and irrelevant in the face of the Gods, who are existing above this entirely.

Stance of temple of Zeus is very clear, we exist to create the Temple of the Gods as it has existed in the ages since time immemorial back on Earth, for this there will not be entertained any obstacles to satisfy the psychological needs of a few people who must find places to direct blame for everything wrong with your own life or your heritage rather than to take responsibility yourself, constantly stuck in Izfet, which is not a code word, but well explained phenomenon on the Temple of Zeus that perfectly clarifies both positions of the past, and positions of the present, why certain things existed, why certain things no longer exist, and why the Temple of Zeus is no longer wasting time or energy on reductive notions that don't help anybody in building and re-building the Culture of the Gods and Their Temples on the planet for the coming Age of Aquarius.

Political and national arguments, and other human related folly is not at all relevant to the Spiritual path of Zevism or the temple of Zeus.

For Temple of Zeus, what is relevant is the interplay between Izfet and Maat, which is clarified fully by High Priest in most educational articles on the forums and on the Temple of Zeus website. This encompasses entirely all the interplay between negative forces and good forces, applicable to all eras, nations, peoples, cultures, consciousness and any other manifestation of man and even beyond man, nature itself and foundation of the cosmos.

If you have it in you to study this material, the questions you have will cease to be relevant, as you will understand, and the position of the Temple of Zeus becomes crystal clear.
 
I respect him as well but we have to understand that he is only good for a political standpoint and not a spiritual one.
I do agree.
As it has been stated by HP and others, politics really does benefit one side. Much as how any political figure would give it all for his people.
I agree with this as well. If politics are not allowed in the temple, then criticizing certain politicians should be prohibited in the same way that praising them is. If a common denominator of decades is called a monster the second after some updates, then I believe I can disagree and voice my opinion.
Let’s take Gabrielle D’Annunzio for example, who occupied Rijeka which is in Croatia and created the Free State of Fiume, where he was dissatisfied with the territorial gains of Italy in ww1 and considered the Dalmatia as Italian territory. Hero to the Italian people, not so much for the Croatians.
I checked the example you gave, but I think it's entirely different. First, this event is more about expansionism. Meanwhile, the evil monster (called the "Son of Lucifer" at one point) was defending his own country from economic, social and cultural damnation.
Your own personal beliefs that have nothing to do with Zevism should be separate.
Completely agreed! If politics are not allowed, then they are not allowed.

If vilifying and slandering a political figure is allowed, then disagreeing with them and providing relevant information should also be allowed. This is especially true, when members have been singing that person happy birthdays for two decades.

Thank you for your reply.
 
High Priest has made many clear public explanations on the entire subject answering the questions you ask, even the ones that I have rejected in moderation which you had asked in a deleted post. Whether you like the answer or not, or want to hold onto views and opinions of the past that are not relevant in the Temple of Zeus or the future existence of the Path of Zevism, is up to you, the answers are given.

Temple of Zeus does not exist to cater to your needs to have attachments to 100 years old narrative which is irrelevant in the present day, and is also irrelevant in the face of the eternal Gods. Zevism simply moves past any reductive notions that are senseless and irrelevant in the face of the Gods, who are existing above this entirely.

Stance of temple of Zeus is very clear, we exist to create the Temple of the Gods as it has existed in the ages since time immemorial back on Earth, for this there will not be entertained any obstacles to satisfy the psychological needs of a few people who must find places to direct blame for everything wrong with your own life or your heritage rather than to take responsibility yourself, constantly stuck in Izfet, which is not a code word, but well explained phenomenon on the Temple of Zeus that perfectly clarifies both positions of the past, and positions of the present, why certain things existed, why certain things no longer exist, and why the Temple of Zeus is no longer wasting time or energy on reductive notions that don't help anybody in building and re-building the Culture of the Gods and Their Temples on the planet for the coming Age of Aquarius.

Political and national arguments, and other human related folly is not at all relevant to the Spiritual path of Zevism or the temple of Zeus.

For Temple of Zeus, what is relevant is the interplay between Izfet and Maat, which is clarified fully by High Priest in most educational articles on the forums and on the Temple of Zeus website. This encompasses entirely all the interplay between negative forces and good forces, applicable to all eras, nations, peoples, cultures, consciousness and any other manifestation of man and even beyond man, nature itself and foundation of the cosmos.

If you have it in you to study this material, the questions you have will cease to be relevant, as you will understand, and the position of the Temple of Zeus becomes crystal clear.
Thank you for your patience , can you point me to the specific article where he makes the clear public explanation? I just want to understand how and why such a drastic change happened
 
Thank you for your patience , can you point me to the specific article where he makes the clear public explanation? I just want to understand how and why such a drastic change happened
Go through all the High Priest Zevios Metathronos sermons of the last months, and read them. It is part of your personal effort to read and understand them.
The more you read them, the more you will understand what happened in the last few months.
 
High Priest has made many clear public explanations on the entire subject answering the questions you ask, even the ones that I have rejected in moderation which you had asked in a deleted post. Whether you like the answer or not, or want to hold onto views and opinions of the past that are not relevant in the Temple of Zeus or the future existence of the Path of Zevism, is up to you, the answers are given.

Temple of Zeus does not exist to cater to your needs to have attachments to 100 years old narrative which is irrelevant in the present day, and is also irrelevant in the face of the eternal Gods. Zevism simply moves past any reductive notions that are senseless and irrelevant in the face of the Gods, who are existing above this entirely.

Stance of temple of Zeus is very clear, we exist to create the Temple of the Gods as it has existed in the ages since time immemorial back on Earth, for this there will not be entertained any obstacles to satisfy the psychological needs of a few people who must find places to direct blame for everything wrong with your own life or your heritage rather than to take responsibility yourself, constantly stuck in Izfet, which is not a code word, but well explained phenomenon on the Temple of Zeus that perfectly clarifies both positions of the past, and positions of the present, why certain things existed, why certain things no longer exist, and why the Temple of Zeus is no longer wasting time or energy on reductive notions that don't help anybody in building and re-building the Culture of the Gods and Their Temples on the planet for the coming Age of Aquarius.

Political and national arguments, and other human related folly is not at all relevant to the Spiritual path of Zevism or the temple of Zeus.

For Temple of Zeus, what is relevant is the interplay between Izfet and Maat, which is clarified fully by High Priest in most educational articles on the forums and on the Temple of Zeus website. This encompasses entirely all the interplay between negative forces and good forces, applicable to all eras, nations, peoples, cultures, consciousness and any other manifestation of man and even beyond man, nature itself and foundation of the cosmos.

If you have it in you to study this material, the questions you have will cease to be relevant, as you will understand, and the position of the Temple of Zeus becomes crystal clear.
I don't mean to be stubborn or offensive I just like answers,you know in the post I made that you deleted that what I posted were true texts by Comander cobra, I acept change and evolution in understanding, I just want to comprehend why before cobra says the Hebrews were an abomination to the gods fundamentally different and that would never change. And now they are accepted, thank you.
 
I don't mean to be stubborn or offensive I just like answers,you know in the post I made that you deleted that what I posted were true texts by Comander cobra, I acept change and evolution in understanding, I just want to comprehend why before cobra says the Hebrews were an abomination to the gods fundamentally different and that would never change. And now they are accepted, thank you.

If you will, do recognize my rights [if I have any besides doing whatever everyone of you particularly wants, such as doing my work over here], to have evolved on from certain things.

Yes I realize, that this is a change. My own self also had to change and move on; came tumultuous situation where I had to evolve and leave certain things behind. To figure out that what I was standing against for many years, exists everywhere, and to see it also here (people proved this also; unironically) is an awareness leap necessary to achieve higher understanding.

It's a positive and empowering change. I cannot stay in the levels of obliviousness or weakness from let's say 10 or 7 years ago. This change is consistent with the core things that required to be done.
 
If you will, do recognize my rights [if I have any besides doing whatever everyone of you particularly wants, such as doing my work over here], to have evolved on from certain things.

Yes I realize, that this is a change. My own self also had to change and move on; came tumultuous situation where I had to evolve and leave certain things behind. To figure out that what I was standing against for many years, exists everywhere, and to see it also here (people proved this also; unironically) is an awareness leap necessary to achieve higher understanding.

It's a positive and empowering change. I cannot stay in the levels of obliviousness or weakness from let's say 10 or 7 years ago. This change is consistent with the core things that required to be done.
Thank you for the answer.
 
Go through all the High Priest Zevios Metathronos sermons of the last months, and read them. It is part of your personal effort to read and understand them.
The more you read them, the more you will understand what happened in the last few months.
Thank you, I will take my time going through those articles
 
Just because the religious class is cancerous (I never really liked the brutality of the religion of Judaism) doesn't mean that all of us are like that. Most are, I agree. I am definitely the black sheep in my family. Also, what is "Yehuba"? And if by "figure of the past" you mean the painter, I don't understand how a person of the Gods could admire such a monster. But we all evolve and that's what matters.
Greetings I guess I don't see eye to eye with your tribe but to help you understand my point of view since you apear to have just arrived here and perhaps you were not exposed to the same things I was , I will share some links with you, if you have patience one of the documentaries is rather large but after seeing it you will see where I'm coming from and my opinion of the painter and your tribe , and perhaps you will share your point of view with me

The two videos are

(Europa the last battle)

(exit the matrix)

https://odysee.com/@Happy:9/EuropaTheLastBattle:2


https://odysee.com/@ilmovimentodels...HE-BANNED---FORBIDDEN-DOCUMENTARY---ITALIAN:0


I guess change is inevitable but some thing are hard to let go....

PS :moderator please let Raphael see this I'm trying to make peace and share experiences so that we may understand each other better

Thank you.
 
I guess change is inevitable but some thing are hard to let go....

PS :moderator please let Raphael see this I'm trying to make peace and share experiences so that we may understand each other better

Thank you.

No worries. There has been the case historically where everyone, if we keep boiling down the history, will always find at least a few reasons for attacking, destroying and doing Izfet. This goes to all Nations, to all people's of the earth and everything else.

When all sides become Theophoric people and let it go, we will be absolved and they will be absolved also. Present day people cannot answer about figure of the past or Rothschilds have done; or what Yehuba or whatever has done. The more you argue about these, you argue about things not in the present moment or things you didn't even commit; defending them or for attacking for them in the context of Zevism is not really doing anything.

Just be aware none of you as individuals are responsible for these.
 

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