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The gravity of the recent updates is just hitting me now. I appreciate clergy for everything that has been updated but I'm still confused on many topics. I don't understand why the Gods would allow people like High Priestess Maxine to teach us all that if it was false, allowing websites to be created and maintained, endless sermons and apparently directly teaching as she quoted them many times.

I also don't like the disrespect I'm seeing from current clergy towards her or other heroes of our past.

I appreciate everything being done, regardless of the above. Though I have to admit politics remains very relevant especially for those of us living in the west. I don't believe in hating anyone over their ethnicity but unfortunately the race topic will be very major for decades to come and I believe many even here are caught up in nations and situations where they can't escape it.

I'll just pull back a bit and focus on ritual schedules, the new meditations and spiritual information shared, and donations whenever I'm able to. Once I have processed everything new and I'm mentally in a better place I'll be able to be more active regularly on the forums. I hope everyone is enjoying the ritual schedule, it is a most beautiful one.
 
I understand your issues, brother. Thank you for voicing them in a far less extreme way than others do, it shows understanding and respect for our Clergy's decisions.

The gravity of the recent updates is just hitting me now. I appreciate clergy for everything that has been updated but I'm still confused on many topics. I don't understand why the Gods would allow people like High Priestess Maxine to teach us all that if it was false, allowing websites to be created and maintained, endless sermons and apparently directly teaching as she quoted them many times.

The Gods guide us to find answers, they don't feed us answers. Humans make mistakes, even humans that become Divine. Such is the material world, one doesn't need to be perfect in all aspects to succeed in their journey.

For all intents and purposes, Lady HPS Maxine's task was a Herculean one: create the new religion of the world and bring back the influence of the Gods, at a time where opposition was great, and bring the right souls in to build the Temple. She was certainly not dealt the best cards in terms of her life situation either, and had to face endless challenges before and after the creation of (at the time) JoS.
She had endless work to do, endless material to scour through, endless knowledge to absorb, at a time where there were literal millennia long curses in place that distorted our view of the Gods. It is no coincidence that "esoteric beliefs" became a lot more commonplace among random people starting with the 2010s.

As for the things the Gods told directly, any message from the Gods is interpreted through our own mental state.

For what Her task was, She succeeded. Far better than many other "occult movements" that tried as well.

Her work was sufficient to bring in High Priest Zevios Metathronos, our greatest blessing as a community and the cornerstone of what makes Zevism officially indestructible in many ways.

I also don't like the disrespect I'm seeing from current clergy towards her or other heroes of our past.

There is no disrespect, only realism. Pedestalizing people and not admitting that they made errors is the opposite of respect. Lady HPS Maxine was extremely humble, and admitted mistakes many times. Heroes also do not need recognition, they do what they do to fulfill their purpose, not for standing ovations. High Priestess Maxine entrusted HPZM with the work of the Temple and went on to likely participate in greater duties, while still watching over this place and its growth. Rest assured that no iota, no dot or tittle of change in Zevism goes unapproved by Her. If you revere her as the risen Hero she is, you have no reason to doubt that.
Any Heroic figure would want us to move on, to not stay stuck in the past, to expand into what is best for the well-being and growth of our community. Our task is to bring the world an opportunity to see the Gods for what they are, and to learn from them. All else are details. If these details draw us away from our actual task, they are distractions.

if it was false

Not that much has changed. What we always opposed were the Abrahamic religions. The main quandary that this brought is that, unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is not just a religion, it is an ethno-religious identity. Christianity and Islam are a belief-based movement one can convert to, while Judaism is the ethno-religion of the tribe of Israel, a group whose inception as a group was a religious covenant. This muddied the waters.
In truth, we have always opposed Yehubor, and the individuals so deeply plagued by it that they became its warriors. Every single Israelite we have criticized, we have criticized for being Yehuboric, not because of their race specifically.
And yet, where we went wrong was language. Materially, it was obvious for anyone with two eyes that when HPS Maxine criticized "the Hebrews", she was not referring to a random child in Israel or to a random Israeli on the street. She was referring to the people that held to a Yehuboric religion with supremacist, extreme tendencies.

In antiquity, every Israelite was an ardent follower of Judaism, a deeply problematic religion that distanced itself from the Gods and had the narcissistic idea that their tribe's purpose was to teach these barbaric, misguided nations what God is. The adherents to this cult ranged from those who knew what they were doing very directly and were at war with the Gods, to those simply born into it and whose beliefs were born out of ignorantly accepting what was given to them, many thinking they were doing good in doing so.

Nowadays, "Israelite identity" is a reconstructed thing, Hebrew itself had to be rediscovered. Many of the current sects of Judaism try to stray away from their extremist beliefs. I still consider their religion very ignorant, and don't see the point of reviving something so hateful and extremist, even if it is "pacified".
The actual number of Israelites directly opposing the Gods knowingly, today, is quite small. It is a minor problem at best, now that we have removed the worldwide curses negatively affecting humanity's view of the Gods. Our fight was always against Yehuborim, those who opposed the Gods, and it was always spiritual in nature, as everyone remembers we have never advocated for real violence.

Spiritually, we did not know exactly what this covenant against the Gods implies for the tribe of Israel. We were over-careful, airing on the side of "better safe than sorry", which was a product of the time (an idea of "opposition", reflected in us uniting the ancient religions under the banner of "Satan") and something that needed correction. We looked at their own doctrine of a completely unique "soul of Israel" and mirrored it. We were still figuring out the ideas of the Gods "as aliens" (in truth, only avataric manifestations of the Gods, just as have been among humans), and those brought us to errant conclusions about the nature of this tribe. Mistakes were made, and Temple of Zeus has always admitted mistakes where they were made, and while our Clergy is Divine in so many ways, none have ever had the hubris to say that they are perfect or have perfect understanding.
In retrospect, it took us having a deeper understanding of what the Gods are to realize that nothing can "completely sever irreparably" one from the Gods, if they are willing to make a change.

All that we have done adds up to this moment, where we have a far more clarified and accurate enemy.

As HPZM was informed by Osiris, we fell into the trap of fighting hate with hate. As our Declaration of Political Severance states, we are held to the same standards as everyone else in terms of Yehuboric influence. Let's call a spade a spade. What is saying "this tribe is permanently severed from the Gods and can never return", if not Kagoim? What were the violent retaliation opinions of some members "in the name of the Gods" if not Sahiburah?
We were warned that we are on the right path, and are restoring the Gods, but we are at danger of creating Judaism 2.0. What would be the point, then? Yehubor can infest anything, Apep does not discriminate and Izfet does not care if we brand ourselves with the names of the Gods, if we do not deliver on proper justice.

It is a hard change for many, I am sure. Not everyone had a fully clarified idea of the Enemy that isn't a generalization. Not everybody could read through the lines and understand what we were fighting. But this is a good change, and a correction of past wrongs that needed to be made right. But we have to admit some basic realities here. That no group is a unified monolith. That no form of life in the Universe, regardless of how distanced it is from Ma'at, is "beyond the Gods". That we can't fight extremism with more extremism. And that nobody is safe from evil and corruption, not even the house of the Gods, if it falls into hubris and stops evolving.

Though I have to admit politics remains very relevant especially for those of us living in the west. I don't believe in hating anyone over their ethnicity but unfortunately the race topic will be very major for decades to come and I believe many even here are caught up in nations and situations where they can't escape it.

The solution to political problems will not come from a group that has a religious duty. It will also not come by LARPing movements that lived for barely over a decade and made grave errors. Politics are downstream from ideologies and worldviews, and political ideologies come, fail to do anything meaningful because they are not grounded in eternity, and go. A world that knows the Gods and holds the laws of Ma'at in its soul will naturally have better political ideas.
 
The gravity of the recent updates is just hitting me now. I appreciate clergy for everything that has been updated but I'm still confused on many topics. I don't understand why the Gods would allow people like High Priestess Maxine to teach us all that if it was false, allowing websites to be created and maintained, endless sermons and apparently directly teaching as she quoted them many times.

I also don't like the disrespect I'm seeing from current clergy towards her or other heroes of our past.

I appreciate everything being done, regardless of the above. Though I have to admit politics remains very relevant especially for those of us living in the west. I don't believe in hating anyone over their ethnicity but unfortunately the race topic will be very major for decades to come and I believe many even here are caught up in nations and situations where they can't escape it.

I'll just pull back a bit and focus on ritual schedules, the new meditations and spiritual information shared, and donations whenever I'm able to. Once I have processed everything new and I'm mentally in a better place I'll be able to be more active regularly on the forums. I hope everyone is enjoying the ritual schedule, it is a most beautiful one.

Don't worry as time goes and everything comes together it will make total sense. Give it time.

1. This was definitely not her fault. She genuinely did more than she could, or anyone would have done in her position and with the times this occurred.

We all receive our inputs and we follow them. The situation is that these inputs, are limited to the access of information one has and other factors. To go over this and move forward is not disrespect, if she was being disrespected we would not be evolving out of the basis of birth she provided. She is loved and respected immensely and as I have stated, this is unchangeable.

The past can also by accident disrespect the future, when for example, it unwittingly creates detrimental prospects for the future. Many parents love their children, but times change and aeons change.

2. Main change is moving past politics and expanding and founding everything on top of the literal core knowledge of the Gods again, in full. This is the promise of restoration and aim of restoration manifested.

3. Politics still exist in life and one can hold their opinion etc. In the meantime the Temple of Zeus cannot follow politics as politics are always clashes based and interest based [all these different approaches clash and create constant division between people]. Inside the Temple this cannot occur.

4. Legal penalties that outweight any and all positive things, and are based on inaccurate information, are both a loss, an impediment, and give nothing for the progress of the Temple or the divine evolution of people. You don't play football inside a hospital, and you don't practice fireworks in an art gallery.

5. On the spiritual domain yes, a lot of knowledge was incomplete and has evolved considerably.
 
Any Heroic figure would want us to move on, to not stay stuck in the past, to expand into what is best for the well-being and growth of our community.
I do completely agree with this. If we are ascribing divinity to any of our past heroes, believing and being told for decades that they have been walking with the Gods, receiving their constant aid to fight against those who try to defame our Gods and tried to bring Izfet to this world. The conclusion that they would only want the best for our community and expansion of our religion is a very rational and naturally occurring one.

Now, but I want to ask something. I have also, if I didn't misinterpreted it, seen some of our past heroes being mocked on VT platform. It is satirically and in a mocking tone been said that this person had only knew a few runes, and "such spiritually divine person he is." So, when I go with logic, as I am told that this particular person was a divine Pharaoh in his past life, and as I am told that our meditations and spiritual advancement all pass to our next incarnation (mostly, at least), why is this person being mocked in this regard?

Some members also asked what this person, who HPZM, the Clergy, and almost all members here have shouted countless happy birthdays for decades (and I even remember HPZM calling him "Son of Lucifer", literally or not), did for the Temple of Zeus?

Well, his very existence fueled every single spiritual warfare program, which were direly needed at that time and were very effective.

So, is it wrong if I feel bad and even a little bit disgusted when I see a person who did great deeds for humanity against the forces of Izfet, that we all celebrated, cherished, and motivated by for decades gets defamed and mocked?

Isn't this literally being spineless? I am sorry if my words aren't appropriate, but I am just expressing my genuine feelings, which I think are very reasonable.

This mocking and, in my opinion, undeserving statements might have been said in a moment of heat, because there were many fanatical people who were completely blind to what is trying to be accomplished (I also don't claim complete understanding, obviously), and also very hostile.

But is this an excuse to defame our past heroes and undermine what they have accomplished, and also what was their possible future vision, if they could continue their struggle?

Well, from now on the Temple is not the place to discuss these what ifs regarding politics which is absolutely fine and well.

And I want to emphasize here, again, so that I won't be mistaken or assumed as someone who is a rebel, or a fanatic, or an "idol worshipper."

I am very happy about the new liturgical terms. Since Yehubor encompasses all, I feel more awake and intellectualized, as this broader understanding allows you to detect and define every force of Izfet with much great precision.

Our severance from politics is also undoubtedly beneficial for our Temple. What was it before, I think, was very necessary at the time but if we are aiming to expand and bring back our Gods to their rightful glory, being stuck with politics wouldn't make our organization divine. I think severing ourselves from politics gives us much weight and seriousness. Which what befits this place.

Yes, we might have overemphasized political stuff before. We don't hide this, nor do we need to hide it. I think it was very much needed at that time, and without it, I think many members you see here might not be here. People often times found solace in this place, as this was only the place on the internet that allowed them to discuss some of these "controversial" and heavily censored topics freely with SOUND and REASONABLE people. Not with some basement dwellers and spiteful, life-hating losers.

Now, we are past this. It doesn't serve us anymore. We want to expand to real life instead of dwelling in the corners of the internet, and most importantly, our comprehension is now simply much greater.

I am completely in line with all these aspirations; I also carry them deeply. Particularly in this post, I wouldn't want to be seen as emotional, but I want to admit that I hate the idea of how many people visit the "ruins" of the Temples of our Gods, and they just pass by like it's nothing. I so deeply desire that all of the so called ruins around all the world will one day get rebuilt and revered for what they are.

Hope I was able to express myself clearly and show where I stand in my understanding and convictions.

I think it's one thing to sever ourselves from politics, and also admit some flawed and lacking understanding of our past. And stop talking about political figures from now on.

It's another thing to mock a past hero with as far as I see not very reasonable sounding statements.

And again, if I don't know something regarding this, if anything about this that we were told was also wrong, I would love to get explained these things so I can adjust my understanding.

Until then, I find it very spineless and dishonorable to mock someone who walked with the Gods and was a common denominator for decades and rightfully so, at the time.
 
I do completely agree with this. If we are ascribing divinity to any of our past heroes, believing and being told for decades that they have been walking with the Gods, receiving their constant aid to fight against those who try to defame our Gods and tried to bring Izfet to this world. The conclusion that they would only want the best for our community and expansion of our religion is a very rational and naturally occurring one.

Now, but I want to ask something. I have also, if I didn't misinterpreted it, seen some of our past heroes being mocked on VT platform. It is satirically and in a mocking tone been said that this person had only knew a few runes, and "such spiritually divine person he is." So, when I go with logic, as I am told that this particular person was a divine Pharaoh in his past life, and as I am told that our meditations and spiritual advancement all pass to our next incarnation (mostly, at least), why is this person being mocked in this regard?

Some members also asked what this person, who HPZM, the Clergy, and almost all members here have shouted countless happy birthdays for decades (and I even remember HPZM calling him "Son of Lucifer", literally or not), did for the Temple of Zeus?

Well, his very existence fueled every single spiritual warfare program, which were direly needed at that time and were very effective.

So, is it wrong if I feel bad and even a little bit disgusted when I see a person who did great deeds for humanity against the forces of Izfet, that we all celebrated, cherished, and motivated by for decades gets defamed and mocked?

Isn't this literally being spineless? I am sorry if my words aren't appropriate, but I am just expressing my genuine feelings, which I think are very reasonable.

This mocking and, in my opinion, undeserving statements might have been said in a moment of heat, because there were many fanatical people who were completely blind to what is trying to be accomplished (I also don't claim complete understanding, obviously), and also very hostile.

But is this an excuse to defame our past heroes and undermine what they have accomplished, and also what was their possible future vision, if they could continue their struggle?

Well, from now on the Temple is not the place to discuss these what ifs regarding politics which is absolutely fine and well.

And I want to emphasize here, again, so that I won't be mistaken or assumed as someone who is a rebel, or a fanatic, or an "idol worshipper."

I am very happy about the new liturgical terms. Since Yehubor encompasses all, I feel more awake and intellectualized, as this broader understanding allows you to detect and define every force of Izfet with much great precision.

Our severance from politics is also undoubtedly beneficial for our Temple. What was it before, I think, was very necessary at the time but if we are aiming to expand and bring back our Gods to their rightful glory, being stuck with politics wouldn't make our organization divine. I think severing ourselves from politics gives us much weight and seriousness. Which what befits this place.

Yes, we might have overemphasized political stuff before. We don't hide this, nor do we need to hide it. I think it was very much needed at that time, and without it, I think many members you see here might not be here. People often times found solace in this place, as this was only the place on the internet that allowed them to discuss some of these "controversial" and heavily censored topics freely with SOUND and REASONABLE people. Not with some basement dwellers and spiteful, life-hating losers.

Now, we are past this. It doesn't serve us anymore. We want to expand to real life instead of dwelling in the corners of the internet, and most importantly, our comprehension is now simply much greater.

I am completely in line with all these aspirations; I also carry them deeply. Particularly in this post, I wouldn't want to be seen as emotional, but I want to admit that I hate the idea of how many people visit the "ruins" of the Temples of our Gods, and they just pass by like it's nothing. I so deeply desire that all of the so called ruins around all the world will one day get rebuilt and revered for what they are.

Hope I was able to express myself clearly and show where I stand in my understanding and convictions.

I think it's one thing to sever ourselves from politics, and also admit some flawed and lacking understanding of our past. And stop talking about political figures from now on.

It's another thing to mock a past hero with as far as I see not very reasonable sounding statements.

And again, if I don't know something regarding this, if anything about this that we were told was also wrong, I would love to get explained these things so I can adjust my understanding.

Until then, I find it very spineless and dishonorable to mock someone who walked with the Gods and was a common denominator for decades and rightfully so, at the time.
Couldn't have worded it better.
 
3. Politics still exist in life and one can hold their opinion etc. In the meantime the Temple of Zeus cannot follow politics as politics are always clashes based and interest based [all these different approaches clash and create constant division between people]. Inside the Temple this cannot occur.

4. Legal penalties that outweight any and all positive things, and are based on inaccurate information, are both a loss, an impediment, and give nothing for the progress of the Temple or the divine evolution of people. You don't play football inside a hospital, and you don't practice fireworks in an art gallery.
Ironically, politics are mainly what brought many high-quality people together to help create the temple of Zeus. I think it is a mistake to bury history and politics, letting a gap of explanation about the world around us. Politics helped to contextualize our pagan beliefs in a more modern context and made them more approachable in a way. However, I don't know how much of what HP Maxine wrote was inaccurate/wrong because these things were buried and no one from the clergy will want to explain this. This is sad.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the ToZ is passing through an important evolution in terms of spiritual and individual development, which is good. However, one reason why I don't agree with denying history and politics in a religious perspective is that the Gods themselves work in political structure and probably have a great history to tell about themselves. Even the some great Greek personalities, who are praised by the temple, discussed politics in philosophical detail. However, I also believe that this denial of history/politics will be reverted as the world will overthrow the Yehuborim doctrines as time passes, as it is clear that the clergy fears backlash from the enemy systems, especially with WW3 potentially approaching (this is my guess based on commentaries I have read so far).

I know that my opinion will not change anyone's mind, as this effort is too big to turn back (at least for now). But maybe I am planting a seed in the mind of the (future) clergy, who knows? I just hope that the ToZ doesn't become a failed experiment like the Freemasonry. If it does, we already know where its downfall began.

I'll miss the great HP who did not fear for stating his political opinions with a religious touch, even when I did not agree with him. He was awesome and made my day many times. He is still awesome in many ways, but different...
 
Ironically, politics are mainly what brought many high-quality people together to help create the temple of Zeus. I think it is a mistake to bury history and politics, letting a gap of explanation about the world around us. Politics helped to contextualize our pagan beliefs in a more modern context and made them more approachable in a way. However, I don't know how much of what HP Maxine wrote was inaccurate/wrong because these things were buried and no one from the clergy will want to explain this. This is sad.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that the ToZ is passing through an important evolution in terms of spiritual and individual development, which is good. However, one reason why I don't agree with denying history and politics in a religious perspective is that the Gods themselves work in political structure and probably have a great history to tell about themselves. Even the some great Greek personalities, who are praised by the temple, discussed politics in philosophical detail. However, I also believe that this denial of history/politics will be reverted as the world will overthrow the Yehuborim doctrines as time passes, as it is clear that the clergy fears backlash from the enemy systems, especially with WW3 potentially approaching (this is my guess based on commentaries I have read so far).

I know that my opinion will not change anyone's mind, as this effort is too big to turn back (at least for now). But maybe I am planting a seed in the mind of the (future) clergy, who knows? I just hope that the ToZ doesn't become a failed experiment like the Freemasonry. If it does, we already know where its downfall began.

I'll miss the great HP who did not fear for stating his political opinions with a religious touch, even when I did not agree with him. He was awesome and made my day many times. He is still awesome in many ways, but different...
Well put. I do believe it is critical the temple never has a religious stand. You can't put Zeus under a flag or doctrine.

At the same time, the Gods do participate in all human affairs. They were behind Alexander and many other great figures in power over the millennia.
 
The gravity of the recent updates is just hitting me now. I appreciate clergy for everything that has been updated but I'm still confused on many topics. I don't understand why the Gods would allow people like High Priestess Maxine to teach us all that if it was false, allowing websites to be created and maintained, endless sermons and apparently directly teaching as she quoted them many times.

I also don't like the disrespect I'm seeing from current clergy towards her or other heroes of our past.

I appreciate everything being done, regardless of the above. Though I have to admit politics remains very relevant especially for those of us living in the west. I don't believe in hating anyone over their ethnicity but unfortunately the race topic will be very major for decades to come and I believe many even here are caught up in nations and situations where they can't escape it.

I'll just pull back a bit and focus on ritual schedules, the new meditations and spiritual information shared, and donations whenever I'm able to. Once I have processed everything new and I'm mentally in a better place I'll be able to be more active regularly on the forums. I hope everyone is enjoying the ritual schedule, it is a most beautiful one.

I read this thread the other day and wanted to speak my voice - an epiphany I just had on the subject of whether or not any of the past teachings were "false." I know it has been addressed already, but I wanted to contribute something:

I cannot know right now everything that was changed from the past information we used to agree on here. One thing I can address though is the subject of the J word, and any other teaching that was changed that what I'm about to say applies to:

These things were not really "false," but they have been developed further now - we understand it in a deeper way. There was significant truth there but now we can see further. If we think of truth like a path being created, then they were the furthest we had developed the road/path at the time. All knowledge grows in this way. As time progresses things get more and more complex (in the sense that they change in SOME way - there is SOME activity, SOME movement in everything). Our awareness has collectively become more complex, and this is probably part of some cycle going on in the universe or the realm we inhabit. And now we are here, I suppose. The energy encompassed by that group is what they/we were really trying to point out, and we used the words we knew how to. The same way that the Jinn were described as "smokeless fire," because fire was the best word they had to describe the likely ethereal visual appearance that was observed. People that belong to that group do seem to be a part of major sorceries that are manifesting more of the Yehuborim energy (or energies), I suppose that's where the politics of mentioning the name of that certain nation and nationality came about from.

Maybe this issue has already been resolved to everyone here's satisfaction, but the epiphany I had led me to think of what I read in this thread, and to want to offer these words here, even if they have to wait for someone in the future to find them and make use of them.
 
I think when you look at politics it is way more complex. What is needed/works one place doesn't in another. ToZ can't be restricted like it.

1000s of years ago they didn't have the same political issues like now but still followed the same spiritual path we are. It makes sense not to bind it to a evolving/restricted sphere.
 
I'll miss the great HP who did not fear for stating his political opinions with a religious touch, even when I did not agree with him. He was awesome and made my day many times. He is still awesome in many ways, but different...

I understand your opinion on this. In fact, I will not very much having to constrain myself in politics, being it that it is an art of division and not really enlightenment. It's like you have to explain 100% things in 10% form; just because of temporal restrictions in the minds of those of politics. This disallows expression, it's like a minefield of the mind and a very ignorant place.

Politics will bias my work, limit my output, endanger every task [either way, left or right wing and these conceptions, always wrong someone]. As a person devoted to Zeus and the Gods, I cannot be devotional over any political figure [past, present or future]. This doesn't mean one cannot recognize their merits, but politics is the restraining faculty that you have to abide by laws that will always come and go.

The job of Clergy and the Temple is to keep people connected to Eternal Constants and we should touch reality through permanent reality, not the fluidity of who fought what and who might win or lose. Whomever wins or loses, whatever goes on earth, the Gods are always the same eternal constant.

If a Clergy of the Gods is serving politicians and just coddling them, they are not Clergy. They are cowards afraid by those who hold political offices. The one who holds the office here is Zeus the Most High and nobody else and the Gods. This is the office I recognize. Any other recognition is out of respect, but only for those who truly engage in the art of running society, and not the art of ruining society.

Politicians they are people of the temporal and followers who say "Zeus shall be restricted in the opinion of this measly meatbag politician because he has influence right now (and will likely fall apart after some decades or earlier who knows)." - They are so arrogant that they want to limit, endanger, or force even the succumbing of the Gods to their political drivel. That's unacceptable.

Any Priest of the Gods who would accept this clearly has not seen the power of the Gods, in the face of which, these people are just dust.

If politics returns to anything but serving Izfet and Yehuborim I will be very glad to engage, participate and do my earnest to support Theophoric traits and the cultivation of Ma'at's law via politics.

Until the day where Epstein walks free and the Politicians carpet bomb civilians without recourse for the written works of Yehuborim, we don't have actual politics on planet earth. It's just a religious Yehuboric shitshow, covered only by the falsehood that it's politics. It's not even politics what these people do; politics would require reason.

Politicians now are serving lobbies not of the people that elected them, start wars for pseudo religious reasons, just so they can short stocks for oil, serve Izfet to cover for pedophiles and excrement of the earth, I am out of this sphere.

They can burn their own souls alone; I require no participation, because I don't fear the opinions of any of them, but rather I fear Zeus's judgement that will befall the deceived ones that do these things.

There is nothing to converse about USA politics and related Western politics right now. Europe is just a bunch of old women who don't know left from right and cannot understand AI but legislate for it, and USA is just a lobby of boomers who carpet bomb for Israel's benefits because crazy Messianic Yehuborim tell them to carpet bomb.
 
Ironically, politics are mainly what brought many high-quality people together to help create the temple of Zeus.

Do kindly let me know a few things more on this, rather than this projection, after 17 years into this.

This is also a major inaccuracy. It is the opposite.

In fact, politics oriented people were among the most traitorous, most mindwashed, most "puritanistic" and most argumentative, while also combining the following: Least amount of contribution, least amount of work, least amount of community quality, and least amount of objective care for the Gods. They prioritized their political jargon over the Gods and merely wanted to enforce the adaptation of the Gods to their political standard.

Their arguments were not "Is this the work of the Gods? What is the work of the Gods?". It was bullshit; they didn't care about the Runes, they cared about if a specific party used them. They didn't care about the whole framing of the whole culture and when it contradicted their political ops, they attacked; in many cases, worse in slander than Israelis themselves or purported "enemies of the Gods".

The people who were obsessed with politics, most of the time, were nowhere in any integral help for the Temple at any rate. In their minds Gods were second or byproducts of shilling politics; they were not a primary source of wisdom but a glove for their 85 IQ dead ideologies.

Generally, they were just passer-by's who didn't do much if anything for the Temple. I can't recall a single politics obsessed case that has done more than anything for the Temple; and I mean objectively, not in their imaginative masturbation.

Only the people of the Gods who were first obsessed with the Gods, actually did help in anything. They are the category a Temple should be preserving; the people of the Temple and not the people of the "party".

Politics-focused types were most of the time the very lazy, very disconnected and very argumentative, brash and pointless types to have around. They believed in politicians first and the Gods second; which is a total blasphemy to the Gods and a total blasphemy to intelligence itself.

They were also those who also carried with them the division undertones, legal issue and perception dangers brought upon themselves and/or scrutiny, the empty statements that could be penaltizing for everyone but first and foremost themselves. Maximum aggression and toxic posting was most of the time done by them. They never were stable members either, showing only on random intervals for arguments, empty criticism and some brainwashed politics posting.

Their best "giving" to the Temple was just huge political nonsense about dead parties, random FEDposting in extreme cases [these were not approved], attacking people for literally no reason and disciples of the Gods, and in cases of "racial purists" it was just whinning and then going back to being cave-trolls that live in the 21st century but pretend they are in the previous one.

HPS Maxine in private correspondence with me, has commented plenty of these types, and I would not like to extend it a lot, but I will just say she was not fond of the politicization related things either.
 
Ironically, politics are mainly what brought many high-quality people together to help create the temple of Zeus.

Politics almost prevented me from joining.
 
I understand your opinion on this. In fact, I will not very much having to constrain myself in politics, being it that it is an art of division and not really enlightenment. It's like you have to explain 100% things in 10% form; just because of temporal restrictions in the minds of those of politics. This disallows expression, it's like a minefield of the mind and a very ignorant place.

Politics will bias my work, limit my output, endanger every task [either way, left or right wing and these conceptions, always wrong someone]. As a person devoted to Zeus and the Gods, I cannot be devotional over any political figure [past, present or future]. This doesn't mean one cannot recognize their merits, but politics is the restraining faculty that you have to abide by laws that will always come and go.

The job of Clergy and the Temple is to keep people connected to Eternal Constants and we should touch reality through permanent reality, not the fluidity of who fought what and who might win or lose. Whomever wins or loses, whatever goes on earth, the Gods are always the same eternal constant.

If a Clergy of the Gods is serving politicians and just coddling them, they are not Clergy. They are cowards afraid by those who hold political offices. The one who holds the office here is Zeus the Most High and nobody else and the Gods. This is the office I recognize. Any other recognition is out of respect, but only for those who truly engage in the art of running society, and not the art of ruining society.

Politicians they are people of the temporal and followers who say "Zeus shall be restricted in the opinion of this measly meatbag politician because he has influence right now (and will likely fall apart after some decades or earlier who knows)." - They are so arrogant that they want to limit, endanger, or force even the succumbing of the Gods to their political drivel. That's unacceptable.

Any Priest of the Gods who would accept this clearly has not seen the power of the Gods, in the face of which, these people are just dust.

If politics returns to anything but serving Izfet and Yehuborim I will be very glad to engage, participate and do my earnest to support Theophoric traits and the cultivation of Ma'at's law via politics.

Until the day where Epstein walks free and the Politicians carpet bomb civilians without recourse for the written works of Yehuborim, we don't have actual politics on planet earth. It's just a religious Yehuboric shitshow, covered only by the falsehood that it's politics. It's not even politics what these people do; politics would require reason.

Politicians now are serving lobbies not of the people that elected them, start wars for pseudo religious reasons, just so they can short stocks for oil, serve Izfet to cover for pedophiles and excrement of the earth, I am out of this sphere.

They can burn their own souls alone; I require no participation, because I don't fear the opinions of any of them, but rather I fear Zeus's judgement that will befall the deceived ones that do these things.

There is nothing to converse about USA politics and related Western politics right now. Europe is just a bunch of old women who don't know left from right and cannot understand AI but legislate for it, and USA is just a lobby of boomers who carpet bomb for Israel's benefits because crazy Messianic Yehuborim tell them to carpet bomb.
Look, what I'm about to tell you isn't easy to say, but I think it's necessary. My father, who comes from a politically influential family, sat down with me one day and opened my eyes. Not with anger, but with a profound sadness, like someone finally letting go of a truth that has weighed heavily on them for years.

He confessed to me that, deep down, that world that seems so bright from the outside is utterly rotten. He told me that his uncles, cousins, and close associates have turned power into a dirty tool. They only use it for their own personal gain: rigged contracts, favors among themselves, absolute indifference toward the people they should be protecting.

"It's a lineage," he told me, "but I swear I abhor what they do with that name."

What hurts him most isn't what people will say, but the shame of knowing that his own people, his own blood relatives, are capable of wielding power under any pretext, without scruples, just to feed their own egos. And the worst part: while they line their pockets and feel untouchable, the people of the town are left hurt, forgotten, trampled underfoot.

My dad told me with that same sadness: "It hurts to say it, but it takes courage to accept that your own people are on the wrong side." And since that day, I understand that sometimes recognizing the rot, even if it comes from your own blood, is the first step to not repeating it.

The High Priest is absolutely right about this.
 
Knowledge is a journey. For a new conclusion to be made, older facts are used. Anything older by the Clergy served its purpose at the time, and also serves until it can be updated when the time is right.

People are attached to the past for emotional reasons, but what good does it do for you now? Seriously? Explain what benefit you are gaining by cherishing these old ideas or people.

For all that is missed, how exactly is it is helping you in this current moment? If you are not losing some useful tool in your day, some mechanism that advances your life, then what did you truly lose?
 
Politics almost prevented me from joining.

Not only you, but me also. I borderline didn't join because of the politics.

Politics obsession and in particular with inflammatory, or warmorgering politics, is the laxative of baby boomers. It's baby boomers now who clap as the USA bombs Iran for Israel, and it's them who will wave Swastikas or tell you "Communism was the perfect political ideology". Boomers are obsessed with these things.

All those who start the wars now are aged and old fossils like Putin and Trump and Xi, who are literally spoiled baby boomers that before they are headed to their final destination, want to ensure they start a couple of wars and maybe World War 3; based on politics like Christian Identity & Shabbos Goyim Christ propaganda or Communism or whatever.

Those of us who are not boomers have seldom to gain from that focus; the boomers have had their time. Before the end of their time, they left us with intense birthrate collapse, debts, wars and all sorts of decay; and except of this this self-serving generation ensured also to dictate constantly in politics against us, "thou shall be Communists, thou shall be Nazis, thou shall fight war for Israel".

Therefore my message is they go fuck themselves. Enough of this. Boomers are so retarded they will send the police to someone because they post memes online. While that constitutes a great crime in their minds or even Terrorism, they will allow rape and even WW3 to occur merely to save their faces. Truly the bravest of human generations.

By the end of the time the baby boomers like Bibi and Trump or Putin or Xi (all Baby Boomers) are trying to ensure they have their last "great war" for empty bullshit theories believed in 1950 about Yehubor's leader Ben Yosef David (Christ) or whatever other boomeric nonsense. Cowards as they are, they summon the 20 year olds, for wars, after they themselves, had 70 years of major peace. How convenient for them.

Alexander the Great was 22 years old when he started frontline conquest. Alexander was on the frontlines with soldiers, not a half-dead zombie that didn't risk his life and because of "Political Ideology" triggered wars behind an HD laptop screen and spoke boastfully on X/Twitter. Even Hitler, fought in World War one.

These boomers now that laugh in parliaments they will throw Nukes at Iran, are merely corn-fed cowards that wouldn't last a day in the wars that they profess must overtake mankind. They are the epitome of both cowardice and political obsession.

These baby boomers are behind their offices summoning wars with AI and drones, and pressing buttons to extinct cities. How noble of them. Where's the major performance from them? Yes let's care about their politics and what they said. No, thanks.

Boomers, after enjoying 70 solid years of great peace, prosperity and everything else, they still point the finger at anyone below the age of 50 and they attack them or demand their recruitment in political sphere (which they control) and dominate the planet still with their boomeric nonsense from 1950. These senile grandmothers that rule the European Union and import all the illegals to replace the natives with, are also baby boomers and political obsessed freaks, that seldom care about anything but their white collar leftist ideology.

Inside the midst of self serving boomers we also have some boomers addicted to Nazism, Left Wing and Right Wing (who by the way were OK for importing 60 and 70 million illegals in Europe to work on cleaning their expensive house pools). Now the baby boomers are like "Goyim, go become Nazi to solve this and radicalized because of the shit world we created for you."

In other words, people are recoiling now and they think by returning to 20th century nonsense or more Baby boomer nonsense will save anything; it won't. These older generations must be left and when they leave, new ones must focus on higher and more important things. Humanity has to open their minds and not continue on these terms. Will it happen? Uncertain.

What I know is that the dictatorship of baby boomers and old politics is ended in ToZ.
 
Look, what I'm about to tell you isn't easy to say, but I think it's necessary. My father, who comes from a politically influential family, sat down with me one day and opened my eyes. Not with anger, but with a profound sadness, like someone finally letting go of a truth that has weighed heavily on them for years.

He confessed to me that, deep down, that world that seems so bright from the outside is utterly rotten. He told me that his uncles, cousins, and close associates have turned power into a dirty tool. They only use it for their own personal gain: rigged contracts, favors among themselves, absolute indifference toward the people they should be protecting.

"It's a lineage," he told me, "but I swear I abhor what they do with that name."

What hurts him most isn't what people will say, but the shame of knowing that his own people, his own blood relatives, are capable of wielding power under any pretext, without scruples, just to feed their own egos. And the worst part: while they line their pockets and feel untouchable, the people of the town are left hurt, forgotten, trampled underfoot.

My dad told me with that same sadness: "It hurts to say it, but it takes courage to accept that your own people are on the wrong side." And since that day, I understand that sometimes recognizing the rot, even if it comes from your own blood, is the first step to not repeating it.

The High Priest is absolutely right about this.

Gods bless the politicians who resist this and they are not overtaken by this. It's very difficult and I don't undermine them in anyway; but they can become highly powerdrunk by this.

As a High Priest my role is to keep people connected to the Gods and in sobriety, even in the face of their unlimited perceived power. When this measure is lost and the people of the Gods don't put the breaks, these people can take the world down merely for their own vanities.

We see the escalation of this today in the present where humanity is almost rallied into WW3, and none of them can even explain anything even about how it came down to this. They are just on an ego power-trip and the current "Spiritual Authorities" of the earth, since they are Yehubor in nature, not only don't stop it, but fan the flames.

Those who understand how the world works, will understand why that role is more important than fanning any forms of political flames. The human ego is very vain and empty, and in politics this manifests very strongly.
 
A few days ago, I was talking with a God about the beginning of my spiritual path. One thing I remembered was that, while reading the old JoS library, I felt very constrained by the idea of making a dedication because of politics.
Deep down, I knew I would have to make a significant commitment.
Politics is never good; in some ways, it will always create war, whether with weapons or with words, and it will always bring hatred.
But if our goal is to eliminate it, what’s the point of being one of the many architects of hatred?
I know there are many people connected to the old site, but look at everything with a different perspective.
When people ask me for advice, I always point them first toward the enemy’s liturgical terms, because it is by knowing how it is made and what it causes that we can fight it.
Think about it: how can you cure a disease if you don’t actually know what the disease is? It’s the same thing.
People need love, peace, harmony, and light, all the things that these changes can bring, that the Gods can bring.
Religion, as such, is about growth and a relationship with the divine, what need is there for politics? All of us here can enter the forums or VT with the understanding that no one will argue with anyone else for political reasons. We are all aware that it would only lead to chaos.

The energy at ToZ, I assure you, isn’t what it once was. No matter how much of a spirit of change there was, the atmosphere wasn’t as pure or as powerful as it is now.
I’m glad that many people, even though they can’t grasp the changes right away, are still willing to make the effort to understand, that’s the spirit we need in people.

We do not deny the past, that much is certain, but only by moving forward and making progress can we bring about immense change. Lady Maxine was a great heroine, and no one will ever stop thanking and loving her for what she did for ToZ and for the Gods. But it is time to move forward, with everything that lies ahead of us. For the Gods and for humanity.
 
The politics of the original beliefs was originally holding me back significantly, i can fully believe in the gods with no reservations but the physical manifestation of division we were internalizing i personally felt to be a poison and i found it increasingly difficult to reconcile myself with and im very glad we're able to collectively move past it into a much more positive and constructive way.
 
Well put. I do believe it is critical the temple never has a religious stand. You can't put Zeus under a flag or doctrine.
Well ed
I understand your opinion on this. In fact, I will not very much having to constrain myself in politics, being it that it is an art of division and not really enlightenment. It's like you have to explain 100% things in 10% form; just because of temporal restrictions in the minds of those of politics. This disallows expression, it's like a minefield of the mind and a very ignorant place.

Politics will bias my work, limit my output, endanger every task [either way, left or right wing and these conceptions, always wrong someone]. As a person devoted to Zeus and the Gods, I cannot be devotional over any political figure [past, present or future]. This doesn't mean one cannot recognize their merits, but politics is the restraining faculty that you have to abide by laws that will always come and go.

The job of Clergy and the Temple is to keep people connected to Eternal Constants and we should touch reality through permanent reality, not the fluidity of who fought what and who might win or lose. Whomever wins or loses, whatever goes on earth, the Gods are always the same eternal constant.

If a Clergy of the Gods is serving politicians and just coddling them, they are not Clergy. They are cowards afraid by those who hold political offices. The one who holds the office here is Zeus the Most High and nobody else and the Gods. This is the office I recognize. Any other recognition is out of respect, but only for those who truly engage in the art of running society, and not the art of ruining society.

Politicians they are people of the temporal and followers who say "Zeus shall be restricted in the opinion of this measly meatbag politician because he has influence right now (and will likely fall apart after some decades or earlier who knows)." - They are so arrogant that they want to limit, endanger, or force even the succumbing of the Gods to their political drivel. That's unacceptable.

Any Priest of the Gods who would accept this clearly has not seen the power of the Gods, in the face of which, these people are just dust.

If politics returns to anything but serving Izfet and Yehuborim I will be very glad to engage, participate and do my earnest to support Theophoric traits and the cultivation of Ma'at's law via politics.

Until the day where Epstein walks free and the Politicians carpet bomb civilians without recourse for the written works of Yehuborim, we don't have actual politics on planet earth. It's just a religious Yehuboric shitshow, covered only by the falsehood that it's politics. It's not even politics what these people do; politics would require reason.

Politicians now are serving lobbies not of the people that elected them, start wars for pseudo religious reasons, just so they can short stocks for oil, serve Izfet to cover for pedophiles and excrement of the earth, I am out of this sphere.

They can burn their own souls alone; I require no participation, because I don't fear the opinions of any of them, but rather I fear Zeus's judgement that will befall the deceived ones that do these things.

There is nothing to converse about USA politics and related Western politics right now. Europe is just a bunch of old women who don't know left from right and cannot understand AI but legislate for it, and USA is just a lobby of boomers who carpet bomb for Israel's benefits because crazy Messianic Yehuborim tell them to carpet bomb.
Beautifully explained, thank you.
 
Do kindly let me know a few things more on this, rather than this projection, after 17 years into this.

This is also a major inaccuracy. It is the opposite.

In fact, politics oriented people were among the most traitorous, most mindwashed, most "puritanistic" and most argumentative, while also combining the following: Least amount of contribution, least amount of work, least amount of community quality, and least amount of objective care for the Gods. They prioritized their political jargon over the Gods and merely wanted to enforce the adaptation of the Gods to their political standard.

Their arguments were not "Is this the work of the Gods? What is the work of the Gods?". It was bullshit; they didn't care about the Runes, they cared about if a specific party used them. They didn't care about the whole framing of the whole culture and when it contradicted their political ops, they attacked; in many cases, worse in slander than Israelis themselves or purported "enemies of the Gods".

The people who were obsessed with politics, most of the time, were nowhere in any integral help for the Temple at any rate. In their minds Gods were second or byproducts of shilling politics; they were not a primary source of wisdom but a glove for their 85 IQ dead ideologies.

Generally, they were just passer-by's who didn't do much if anything for the Temple. I can't recall a single politics obsessed case that has done more than anything for the Temple; and I mean objectively, not in their imaginative masturbation.

Only the people of the Gods who were first obsessed with the Gods, actually did help in anything. They are the category a Temple should be preserving; the people of the Temple and not the people of the "party".

Politics-focused types were most of the time the very lazy, very disconnected and very argumentative, brash and pointless types to have around. They believed in politicians first and the Gods second; which is a total blasphemy to the Gods and a total blasphemy to intelligence itself.

They were also those who also carried with them the division undertones, legal issue and perception dangers brought upon themselves and/or scrutiny, the empty statements that could be penaltizing for everyone but first and foremost themselves. Maximum aggression and toxic posting was most of the time done by them. They never were stable members either, showing only on random intervals for arguments, empty criticism and some brainwashed politics posting.

Their best "giving" to the Temple was just huge political nonsense about dead parties, random FEDposting in extreme cases [these were not approved], attacking people for literally no reason and disciples of the Gods, and in cases of "racial purists" it was just whinning and then going back to being cave-trolls that live in the 21st century but pretend they are in the previous one.

HPS Maxine in private correspondence with me, has commented plenty of these types, and I would not like to extend it a lot, but I will just say she was not fond of the politicization related things either.
I vividly recall HPS Maxine always mentioning that we should focus on strengthening our bonds with the Gods and staying as close to them as possible, and that we should stay away from all political currents that only cause division.
 
I used to watch the new and be more interested in politics I would say 10 years ago but now I dislike it so much. They are all the same. It is exhausting seeing how they talk it is all about getting in power again, killing someone etc.
When was the last time they honestly wanted to do something to help the people of the country they govern?

I'm glad we are moving past it. Being off the form for a few months coming back and it feels happier and positive.
 
I vividly recall HPS Maxine always mentioning that we should focus on strengthening our bonds with the Gods and staying as close to them as possible, and that we should stay away from all political currents that only cause division.
While I wasn't here in that era, yes, I see very little "blanket racial hatred" (except of statements which can be interpreted as generalizing, but were clearly about Judaism as a religion and specific figures doing heinous crimes).
I also, as well, did not see the level of political shilling from HPS Maxine that some "members" nowadays think existed.

I see a lot of focus on building instead of merely opposing, I read about warnings to not engage in pointless violence, I see condemnation of movements that advocated for extremism like O9A.

I have a hunch that a lot of the pointless extremist circle jerking came from "characters" in the Ministry that did some contributions at a time where standards were lower, that were rightfully deposed of their titles.
Just a hunch.
 
People are attached to the past for emotional reasons, but what good does it do for you now? Seriously? Explain what benefit you are gaining by cherishing these old ideas or people.
In my reply, I clearly showed that I'm not stuck in the past. I'm not bothered by the fact that we no longer cherish old figures. What raised concerns for me is the dishonest and spineless behavior of mocking and defaming someone whom has been a common denominator for decades.

It's one thing to stop engaging with these things; it's another to make remarks that suggest that they were irrelevant.

If someone who got cherished for decades gets defamed just after one update, that tells a lot about some members, just as the same way how fanatics who put some politicians before the Gods and decided to leave our Temple, most of the time while being hostile as well, tells about them.
 
Do kindly let me know a few things more on this, rather than this projection, after 17 years into this.

This is also a major inaccuracy. It is the opposite.
Well, I can say that, at least for myself, this is true for me. I have made dozens of translations and many donations. So my actions speak for myself.
Inside the midst of self serving boomers we also have some boomers addicted to Nazism, Left Wing and Right Wing (who by the way were OK for importing 60 and 70 million illegals in Europe to work on cleaning their expensive house pools). Now the baby boomers are like "Goyim, go become Nazi to solve this and radicalized because of the shit world we created for you."

In other words, people are recoiling now and they think by returning to 20th century nonsense or more Baby boomer nonsense will save anything; it won't. These older generations must be left and when they leave, new ones must focus on higher and more important things. Humanity has to open their minds and not continue on these terms. Will it happen? Uncertain.
We are in this situation because of the aftermath of WWII, and putting "nazism" in the same basket with right and left wing ideologies does not lead to good insight to the best of my knowledge, as the world would be much better had the axis won that war, even if they had some yehuborim symptoms. But I don't want to discuss "whataboutisms" about the past.

My point is, you don't solve this political situation by not talking about the past and politics. At the end of the day, you will only fix bad politics with better politics. Aristotle famously described humans as "by nature a social [and political] animal" because humans inherently require community (the polis) to thrive, and that anyone living outside society is either a beast or a god. This means that for Aristotle, socializing and political association are necessary to achieve the good life. Then I ask you how do you do that without proper knowledge about politics and the past? Of course that all the wisdom and guidance of the Gods are precious and crucial in this endeavor, but at the end of the day, leaders must make tough choices and the Gods know the most just and balanced ones. That is why I don't think it is wrong to mix politics/history with religion to a certain degree. The recent ritual of Mithra/Shamash mentions this in a way:

"Grant the Initiates of Zeus positions of power in the world.
Let the faithful rise to authority in every sphere:
in government, in law, in commerce, in knowledge, in the arts.
Let the Zevists hold positions of influence and dignity
from which they can reshape the world according to truth."

By "truth" I understand the will of the Gods, if not the Gods themselves, but also general truth. So how are we supposed to be blessed political leaders by Mithra without knowing the truth about history and politics that was present in the JoS? I don't mean that the temple should emphasize history and politics like before, but at least some knowledge could be available. In this way, people could have a better understanding of what happened and they could better honor the Gods while in positions of power.

If you ask me why it is important to know the past to implement good politics, I let two quotes from George Orwell explain this:
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

I am open to discuss this matter, even though you look very steady in your position. In any case, I respect you and your decision, even if I don't agree and I will continue to contribute to the ToZ regardless.
 
Look, what I'm about to tell you isn't easy to say, but I think it's necessary. My father, who comes from a politically influential family, sat down with me one day and opened my eyes. Not with anger, but with a profound sadness, like someone finally letting go of a truth that has weighed heavily on them for years.

He confessed to me that, deep down, that world that seems so bright from the outside is utterly rotten. He told me that his uncles, cousins, and close associates have turned power into a dirty tool. They only use it for their own personal gain: rigged contracts, favors among themselves, absolute indifference toward the people they should be protecting.

"It's a lineage," he told me, "but I swear I abhor what they do with that name."

What hurts him most isn't what people will say, but the shame of knowing that his own people, his own blood relatives, are capable of wielding power under any pretext, without scruples, just to feed their own egos. And the worst part: while they line their pockets and feel untouchable, the people of the town are left hurt, forgotten, trampled underfoot.

My dad told me with that same sadness: "It hurts to say it, but it takes courage to accept that your own people are on the wrong side." And since that day, I understand that sometimes recognizing the rot, even if it comes from your own blood, is the first step to not repeating it.

The High Priest is absolutely right about this.
Not only that, the sad part is you can't really change it, like... from personal experience and from others that I know, you gotta have some nerves of steel, politics are like a magnet for ass kissers, narcissists and sociopaths, I don't know how but it always attract the most shitty people, I swear I wanted to strangle my colleagues so many times.... And if you're starting your own... good luck gaining popularity and always needing to verify for scumbags who want to infiltrate or use your own resources for their own gains, most good people quit really fast and while only the ghouls remain.
 

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