Temple Of Zeus Liturgical Terms: "Yehubor - Yehuborim"

[Alexguardra]

Dear High Priest,
If I sincerely agree with someone, they don't cause me any concern. Besides, as far as I know, you don't need to provide a blood test to sign up for forums.

But accepting this is easy, while the hard part is this: until now, the opposite was being claimed, and accepting this means acknowledging that the priesthood can also be wrong about certain issues. This raises the concern: what if the priesthood is wrong about other things right now?

What if we are wrong about the mantras we use or other things? What if, one day, you tell us that reincarnation doesn't exist, that we will simply cease to exist when we die, so we should just live well because this is our only chance? In short, we want to know that something we accept as true today won't change tomorrow, and that we aren't being mistaken right now. If you were wrong in the past, why should we trust the priesthood? How can we trust Zevism? We cannot all communicate with the gods, so we are dependent on you here; if you can just come out and declare that you were wrong, how is this supposed to work?

These are questions actually spinning in the back of everyone's minds, and frankly, they are spinning in mine a bit, too. I have nowhere else to go, and no other community satisfies me like this one—or so I assume, I don't know. But when even our perspective on the Gods can change so easily, who can we trust? I suppose trusting the Gods is a good idea. However, these are the things everyone mumbles about but is too shy to say, High Priest.

With my respects.

I have received my answer:
Thread 'Meeting Metathronos, Our High Priest' https://ancient-forums.com/threads/meeting-metathronos-our-high-priest.306627/

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

Dear High Priest,
If I sincerely agree with someone, they don't cause me any concern. Besides, as far as I know, you don't need to provide a blood test to sign up for forums.

But accepting this is easy, while the hard part is this: until now, the opposite was being claimed, and accepting this means acknowledging that the priesthood can also be wrong about certain issues. This raises the concern: what if the priesthood is wrong about other things right now?

What if we are wrong about the mantras we use or other things? What if, one day, you tell us that reincarnation doesn't exist, that we will simply cease to exist when we die, so we should just live well because this is our only chance? In short, we want to know that something we accept as true today won't change tomorrow, and that we aren't being mistaken right now. If you were wrong in the past, why should we trust the priesthood? How can we trust Zevism? We cannot all communicate with the gods, so we are dependent on you here; if you can just come out and declare that you were wrong, how is this supposed to work?

These are questions actually spinning in the back of everyone's minds, and frankly, they are spinning in mine a bit, too. I have nowhere else to go, and no other community satisfies me like this one—or so I assume, I don't know. But when even our perspective on the Gods can change so easily, who can we trust? I suppose trusting the Gods is a good idea. However, these are the things everyone mumbles about but is too shy to say, High Priest.

With my respects.

I think the misunderstanding here is that you and others are treating our religion like it's meant to be a set of fixed doctrines, like some holy book that's never meant to be changed or improved upon.

Zevism works in a more dynamic, flexible way:

1) New knowledge arrives which improves on the older ideas

2) Sometimes, that new knowledge is kept back until the right time to release it arrives

This is quite foreign to other religions where nothing is expected to change for a long time or even forever, that there are things that are never to be questioned. In Zevism questioning is at our core, always truth seeking and improving, that's because we're endlessly striving for truth.

Reincarnation is real, so are souls, so the idea that we would cease to exist after death isn't true in the slightest, unless there are some kinds of spiritual attacks that could do this?

A truth-seeking system will always try to improve upon itself to reach closer to truth. I reckon Zevism will continue changing and evolving to places we didn't even fathom, to even more powerful heights beyond imagination.

The Gods reveal more and more truth to those who have evolved to higher heights. We should consider ourselves grateful that we have Champions like Lady Pythia, HPHC and others who are not only worthy to receive such holy knowledge but generous to share it with us and help us evolve to heights most of us wouldn't reach on our own.

 

[Alexguardra]

I think the misunderstanding here is that you and others are treating our religion like it's meant to be a set of fixed doctrines, like some holy book that's never meant to be changed or improved upon.

Zevism works in a more dynamic, flexible way:

1) New knowledge arrives which improves on the older ideas

2) Sometimes, that new knowledge is kept back until the right time to release it arrives

This is quite foreign to other religions where nothing is expected to change for a long time or even forever, that there are things that are never to be questioned. In Zevism questioning is at our core, always truth seeking and improving, that's because we're endlessly striving for truth.

Reincarnation is real, so are souls, so the idea that we would cease to exist after death isn't true in the slightest, unless there are some kinds of spiritual attacks that could do this?

A truth-seeking system will always try to improve upon itself to reach closer to truth. I reckon Zevism will continue changing and evolving to places we didn't even fathom, to even more powerful heights beyond imagination.

The Gods reveal more and more truth to those who have evolved to higher heights. We should consider ourselves grateful that we have Champions like Lady Pythia, HPHC and others who are not only worthy to receive such holy knowledge but generous to share it with us and help us evolve to heights most of us wouldn't reach on our own.

I believe that the High Priest Zevios Metathronos possesses the power to create something lasting and eternal. I suggest taking a look at Priest Alexandros's last read.
Thank you for the answer.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I believe that the High Priest Zevios Metathronos possesses the power to create something lasting and eternal. I suggest taking a look at Priest Alexandros's last read.
Thank you for the answer.

I already read it, yes it was a fascinating read.

 

[Emergent13]

I have posted my question just before High Priest Zevios Metathronos's audio message, about this topic, was shared, so there is more clarification now.

Thank you HP Zevios Metathronos, for your continuous contributions, in the mean time I will re-listen your sermon again and again to internalize and understand.

 

[Dina]

Thank you High Priest!!

 

[Alexguardra]

I already read it, yes it was a fascinating read.

I know my answer upset you, but you did the same to me. I cannot understand why you feel the need to give fake answers here, viewing "counter-attacking" someone when they ask a question as a proof of loyalty. Your initial goal wasn't to help me; you perceive my doubts as disloyalty and pretend to answer me just to prove you don't share that same "disloyalty." I believe you are acting on a different instinct, and the sad part is, you aren't the only one—most people here act this way.

What is your goal? Are you trying to feel a sense of belonging, or are you trying to prove to the High Priestess that you are more worthy of rising within this hierarchy? I think this is a "Yehuboric" approach, and even if someone adopting this mindset succeeds in gaining power, it would be dangerous for us.

Until now, it was said that "someones" have no 7 chakras and could never be Zevist even if they wanted to, yet there is a clear realization of this error here. I am aware that the High Priest is not the cause of this error, but your answer of "I believe in the evolution of Zevizm" to someone pointing out this reality wasn't meant to help; it was an attempt to suppress an "impertinent" person like me and prove you are supposedly more loyal. It seems like I'm only attacking you, but this isn't strictly about you—too many people here adopt this terrible attitude. Honestly, this approach is the reason the High Priest is accused of a sort of dictatorship; he is NOT bu you are tarnishing his reputation.

Things go south when we play this game, don't they? Didn't my reply make you feel like crap (because that was my intention)? You felt the need to come and tell me like a loser that you read Priest Alexandros's post, and I think we just wasted energy. We need to stop this—all of us.

 

[Head Guardian Blitzkreig]

Dear High Priest,
If I sincerely agree with someone, they don't cause me any concern. Besides, as far as I know, you don't need to provide a blood test to sign up for forums.

But accepting this is easy, while the hard part is this: until now, the opposite was being claimed, and accepting this means acknowledging that the priesthood can also be wrong about certain issues. This raises the concern: what if the priesthood is wrong about other things right now?

What if we are wrong about the mantras we use or other things? What if, one day, you tell us that reincarnation doesn't exist, that we will simply cease to exist when we die, so we should just live well because this is our only chance? In short, we want to know that something we accept as true today won't change tomorrow, and that we aren't being mistaken right now. If you were wrong in the past, why should we trust the priesthood? How can we trust Zevism? We cannot all communicate with the gods, so we are dependent on you here; if you can just come out and declare that you were wrong, how is this supposed to work?

These are questions actually spinning in the back of everyone's minds, and frankly, they are spinning in mine a bit, too. I have nowhere else to go, and no other community satisfies me like this one—or so I assume, I don't know. But when even our perspective on the Gods can change so easily, who can we trust? I suppose trusting the Gods is a good idea. However, these are the things everyone mumbles about but is too shy to say, High Priest.

With my respects.

Ideas and concepts in all areas of life change as a result of the exploration itself turning up new information. It is smart to update any existing theories and databanks with new info; that is not called "being wrong".

I believe you are seeing this from a cynical view. Look at it the other way: HP is our forefront expert on the matter. He also empowers us to make our own discoveries on the topic, too. So it is not like a situation of one changing fact collapsing the whole system, but a system of thought and discovery which is ever evolving and growing in clarity.

 

[Alexguardra]

I believe you are seeing this from a cynical view.

Your belief is basically wrong, dear HG.

But, I trust that your insight is still deeper than mine.

 

[Acolyte Of Pan 666]

I know my answer upset you, but you did the same to me. I cannot understand why you feel the need to give fake answers here, viewing "counter-attacking" someone when they ask a question as a proof of loyalty. Your initial goal wasn't to help me; you perceive my doubts as disloyalty and pretend to answer me just to prove you don't share that same "disloyalty." I believe you are acting on a different instinct, and the sad part is, you aren't the only one—most people here act this way.

What is your goal? Are you trying to feel a sense of belonging, or are you trying to prove to the High Priestess that you are more worthy of rising within this hierarchy? I think this is a "Yehuboric" approach, and even if someone adopting this mindset succeeds in gaining power, it would be dangerous for us.

Until now, it was said that "someones" have no 7 chakras and could never be Zevist even if they wanted to, yet there is a clear realization of this error here. I am aware that the High Priest is not the cause of this error, but your answer of "I believe in the evolution of Zevizm" to someone pointing out this reality wasn't meant to help; it was an attempt to suppress an "impertinent" person like me and prove you are supposedly more loyal. It seems like I'm only attacking you, but this isn't strictly about you—too many people here adopt this terrible attitude. Honestly, this approach is the reason the High Priest is accused of a sort of dictatorship; he is NOT bu you are tarnishing his reputation.

Things go south when we play this game, don't they? Didn't my reply make you feel like crap (because that was my intention)? You felt the need to come and tell me like a loser that you read Priest Alexandros's post, and I think we just wasted energy. We need to stop this—all of us.

I honestly don’t know where this came from. Your answer did not upset me at all.

I explained my perspective on how I viewed the change and perhaps how some people misunderstood it and how Zevism could change over time.

Then I just factually said that I already read the post you cited about HPHC before you recommended it to me.

There was no manipulation or demeaning intented from me. I apologise if you interpreted it that way, that was not my intention in the slightest. I was not and never did put anyone down for expressing a different opinion. I often have opinions that could get attacked by others myself and don’t shy away from stating them.

I can be a bit direct and insensitive at times, and sometimes can sound demeaning when explaining my view to others. I didn’t mean that. I also despise “power plays”.

I don’t believe in putting others down to raise myself up, I don’t see the need for it and would only make me look a bully, which I’m not.

I again apologise if I seemed that way, I was only explaining how I viewed the change and then said I read the post before.

 

[Alexguardra]

I honestly don’t know where this came from. Your answer did not upset me at all.

I explained my perspective on how I viewed the change and perhaps how some people misunderstood it and how Zevism could change over time.

Then I just factually said that I already read the post you cited about HPHC before you recommended it to me.

There was no manipulation or demeaning intented from me. I apologise if you interpreted it that way, that was not my intention in the slightest. I was not and never did put anyone down for expressing a different opinion. I often have opinions that could get attacked by others myself and don’t shy away from stating them.

I can be a bit direct and insensitive at times, and sometimes can sound demeaning when explaining my view to others. I didn’t mean that. I also despise “power plays”.

I don’t believe in putting others down to raise myself up, I don’t see the need for it and would only make me look a bully, which I’m not.

I again apologise if I seemed that way, I was only explaining how I viewed the change and then said I read the post before.

I apologize for what I wrote, brother. This process has made me very emotional, and I’ve said things you didn't deserve at all. Believe me, I’m having so many sudden emotional outbursts and acting so inconsistently that you shouldn't take a single word I wrote seriously. I just haven't been feeling well and I projected my negative energy onto you. Please forgive me if I made you feel guilty; the change is just making me overly emotional, and I'm having a hard time managing myself.
I am really sorry.

 

[Hs666]

...

They are hostile beings, by nature opposed to Satya and the Gods.

 

[Nikólaos666]

Sorry, I didn't understand. Yehubor - Yehuborim are hostile aliens, grays, Yehuborim and everyone who follows this program?

Yehubor meaning devoted of Divine spirit, it is the dark spirit that brings evil into one's mind. The Yehuborim are those who let the spirit of Yehubor take over their own life. The concept of Yehuborim is beyond the concept of race, religion or anything else.

 

[Windstrider666]

Thank you High Priest for this new information and everything you have released. There is something im still a bit confused about in which is true. Is Yehuborim an affliction or an innate disposition? Or is it a mix of both where the disposition leads to easier development of the affliction.

 

[Wandering Flame]

First of all thank you very much for this monumental sermon High Priest Zevios Metathronos 666!

I must admit I am a bit behind and have a lot of reading do :S.. but I wanted to add a bit to this whole topic.
After I glimpsed at this whole discussion before going to bed yesterday, first via Vultus Templorum, I got a very basic understanding despite being surprised a bit.

When I woke up this morning, I felt as though something shifted...
Very similar to what Aquarius wrote: I felt lighter, I felt more at peace.
Things that would get me upset are now only scratching the surface of my being and I was very zen before still but now... it got deeper.

My work environment is quite a hostile place and many people I despise have much earned their hate but nonetheless, I felt as though I was radiating kindness more so than ever.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

Thank you High Priest for this new information and everything you have released. There is something im still a bit confused about in which is true. Is Yehuborim an affliction or an innate disposition? Or is it a mix of both where the disposition leads to easier development of the affliction.

In the same way a disease, the more you get it, it lowers your immune system, until the negative has overtaken someone; this can happen with Yehuborim. One can be inflicted at first, if they do not stop it, it eats them almost totally. Their remaining ability to be saved is the 1% power of Gods that is still inside, which must be activated by the culture of the Gods, so one can escape it's grip - citing the most intense cases.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

I apologize for what I wrote, brother. This process has made me very emotional, and I’ve said things you didn't deserve at all. Believe me, I’m having so many sudden emotional outbursts and acting so inconsistently that you shouldn't take a single word I wrote seriously. I just haven't been feeling well and I projected my negative energy onto you. Please forgive me if I made you feel guilty; the change is just making me overly emotional, and I'm having a hard time managing myself.
I am really sorry.

No worries let's move on; after all materials are read they will make sense.

 

[Hs666]

...

That's right, it's not a race. Think of it as a parasitic virus.

There is a possibility of “mixing” with them. And being infected, like those who already are. A bit like a cold. The energy fields of these two people remain totally in contrast and opposition.

Having offspring with these individuals is not a smart move. Yes, children, like the person who stands beside them, can become “infected.” This does not mean that the child is “evil,” but its spiritual structure will lean toward yehubor, because Birburim and Sahibur will be present.

 

[DiscipleofEshmun]

I've been noticing this for a long time, and I've tried to ignore it over and over again, but I just can't anymore. How in theory the leadership over here is supposed to be 'open-minded' and absolutely open to criticism, but the moment actual fair criticism is moved against anything that is said or done by the 'extremely liberal' and 'open-minded' leadership, the person is immediately attacked, ridiculed and dismissed as an emotional idiot who has no idea of what he's talking about and should just shut it.

In your responses full of arrogance, rudeness and contempt, neither of you answered the question, again. Why avoid it? Just answer it, if it's yes, then I'm ready to hear why. Cowardly pretending this question doesn't exist and distracting the focus with empty, vague rants (which you two in particular are masters of by the way) won't make the question go away.

Other members (the ones with critical thinking skills), even if they are scared of you and will pretend to accept anything you say no matter what (probably because they are fearful of the attacks and ridicule you'd put them through if they dared challenge you), are asking this same question within themselves: So within the current nation of Israel and in their ethnic mix, there could be people who could be able to get rid of this 'spirit' within them and join us?

It is saddening. Then you have the robotic people that swarm you just because you disagreed with something.

 

[DiscipleofEshmun]

Of course it's not. But instead of allowing things to take place and as always [they will be on their place], I guess others didn't take 2 minutes of time to practice this and see what it does. Or ask the Gods why this and why that; then practice it and THEN read what I write.

So instead it's dialectics and sign posts and things like this; even going as far as to say "people are afraid of you" to me and other nonsense to make dialectic sound like revolution on approved comments (Like I literally approved them for questions to be publicly visible - but I am King Jong Un the fearsome one) and simulating or insinuating I am Kim Jong Un waiting to throw a nuke for anyone who verbally disagreed with me. And I have to pretend this isn't nonsense at the same time.

These tools will be clarification salvation tools for all these situations yet here I have to sit, dividing hair again.

If you want to drop information that you know will contradict what you yourself have taught us for years, why not at least tell us how to handle it and nurture and accommodate us into the new understanding?

You're really fighting nothing but the work you've done for years. Being pissed at people struggling with the new understanding just generates more unnecessary aggression.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

If you want to drop information that you know will contradict what you yourself have taught us for years, why not at least tell us how to handle it and nurture and accommodate us into the new understanding?

You're really fighting nothing but the work you've done for years. Being pissed at people struggling with the new understanding just generates more unnecessary aggression.

Correct. We have moved upward and forward. This presupposes certain things on the politics were useless and must be discarded.

My work has been pristine at 99% of this in the religious domains; in regard to politics, when I tell you the objective moving forward, aka, no politics, you get reactive. Then we enter blockhead mode; then accusatory mode, then attack mode. We could say that "politics" have added zero value and reduced 99% of the potential capacities of the community.

Legitimate questions and listening were 1 against 10. This proves my point solely by itself.

 

[High Priest Zevios Metathronos]

I actually agree, we can move on. But I want you to be aware that antisemitism isn't going anywhere. Expect less of it in the forums, but we will never abandon it. We actually live in a jevvish ran world.

Who tried to stop "antisemitism" via this or comment on it? Anti-semitism same as pro-semitism do not exist for me no longer; I have seen the future.

What transpired politically or as a result, is nothing but consequence. The world has woke up to many of these things and this era is now passed for the Temple of Zeus. We were always ahead; when people were blindfolded, we were ahead. Now we are ahead in the next step.

Further, any changes don't tell you who to love or to dislike in the political sphere or socially. They tell you how to recognize the deeper layers of this.

As for Antisemitism, I recognize it's just mental porn for most people; write the mean comments online, feel like you do something, others wake up from this - all of them go to naughty website, do their work there, and feel very edgy; eat ice-cream, talk about figure of the past, shitpost, call it a day and think you are awake. 95% of people are currently in this. Very awake. Congratulations to them for this.

I am not here to take Israeli mind porn that they are the Chosen people away, either. I recognize the need of their also. Congratulations to them also. It's all part of the known cycle. But it has nothing truly to offer to the Temple of adherents at this point; the internet and the people are ahead of these things.

The Temple cannot be restrained via this narrative.

Yet there is nothing the Temple of Zeus has to do with this any longer.

 

[Khem Nefermed]

If you want to drop information that you know will contradict what you yourself have taught us for years, why not at least tell us how to handle it and nurture and accommodate us into the new understanding?

So our High Priest wasting ENDLESS REPLIES on people who are PLAYING IGNORANT is not "telling you how to handle it and accommodating you"?

All these posts, all the replies you and others got, many of which are from HPHC spending a large amount of time that could be spent on more important matters, all to give an explanation to people who, frankly, aren't looking for one, all this is not enough?

I try to be civil here, but fucking hell. I've never seen entitlement like this in my life.

Do you meditate? Great. Do you know that cleaning your soul can take a while? Great.
Do this too: read every sermon on Yehuborim including my post like a meditation. Do that daily, and "advance" in your understanding of this very straight forward thing by yourself.

It's unbelievable, and very revealing about HP's character, that he's entertaining all this passive aggressiveness and entitlement for the sake of members here. I wouldn't have this patience.

 

[Detacher]

I will say, from what I can tell, the real reason behind the constant backlash against new updates is because the majority of human beings (apparently including those of our Zevist block)—are totally resistant to change, transformation, and metamorphosis (and in particular: the speed of such).

Rather they cling to the comfort of the familiar, preferring it over HP's attitude of perpetual motion towards evolution.

But should we wait for the stragglers to keep up, or simply leave them in the dust?

I guess that is for leadership to decide, but either way, this attitude of obsessing over the past only leads to mediocrity and stagnation.

The past is basically just a referrence point to be used in service of the future.

If it is a hindrance to the creation of said future, it is nothing but dead weight.

 

[DiscipleofEshmun]

So our High Priest wasting ENDLESS REPLIES on people who are PLAYING IGNORANT is not "telling you how to handle it and accommodating you"?

All these posts, all the replies you and others got, many of which are from HPHC spending a large amount of time that could be spent on more important matters, all to give an explanation to people who, frankly, aren't looking for one, all this is not enough?

I try to be civil here, but fucking hell. I've never seen entitlement like this in my life.

Do you meditate? Great. Do you know that cleaning your soul can take a while? Great.
Do this too: read every sermon on Yehuborim including my post like a meditation. Do that daily, and "advance" in your understanding of this very straight forward thing by yourself.

It's unbelievable, and very revealing about HP's character, that he's entertaining all this passive aggressiveness and entitlement for the sake of members here. I wouldn't have this patience.

Go clutch your pearls elsewhere. You know nothing about the jevvs.

I appreciate the High Priest taking His time to answer. He understands exactly where I'm coming from. I recognize His divinity and authority, it's just not easy to drop understanding you've had for a very long time and an existential matter.

You're exactly the type of of comment I was talking about. I will leave it at that.