Question for [SG] Karnonnos: Are you human?

[sinbad]

I have read perhaps hundreds of thousands of history books.

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Hundreds of thousands? As in at least 200,000? Is that a typo? That is like, 10 books a day for like 60 years? How do you read so much/so fast?

How did you do it? Or you must be like 90 yrs old. Please teach me your ways, Master hahahaha

 

[Aleksios]

Because he is "SG" Karnonnos.

 

[AFODO]

He is a Superhuman to say the least.

 

[Giorno di Sole]

There is a figure of speech called hyperbole.

 

[Epiphany]

It could have been a typo, R and F are adjacent. But I also think that since he is advanced, he probably has spiritual abilities that greatly accelerate learning.

 

[sinbad]

It could have been a typo, R and F are adjacent. But I also think that since he is advanced, he probably has spiritual abilities that greatly accelerate learning.

But even HP Cobra has read just a few thousand in comparison, which was said on the High Priest initiation video

There is a figure of speech called hyperbole.

That is not a context which hyperbole would be used appropriately

He is a Superhuman to say the least.

It's crazy! I can read maybe 3 or 4 max but with a loss of comprehension

 

[Ælberiigor]

It's crazy! I can read maybe 3 or 4 max but with a loss of comprehension

Some people are able to photography entire pages understanding their content in the second while standard people photography just words.
They can read a book in one evening that takes us three months to finish. If they are studious, they can read several per day.

Thanks to his training during several life, he can.

 

[Way_Seeker666]

I'd think this is a typo, but it could be correct. Lady Maxine once mentioned she'd found a technique that allows one to place their hand on a book and instantly absorb the knowledge as if they'd read and remembered the entire thing.
There are also ways to learn to read extremely fast while remembering everything, like a few seconds per page.

 

[sinbad]

Some people are able to photography entire pages understanding their content in the second while standard people photography just words.
They can read a book in one evening that takes us three months to finish. If they are studious, they can read several per day.

Thanks to his training during several life, he can.

Wdym by photographing just words? As in just seeing the words and not the images behind the words?

Also perhaps he's just skim reading? I've found once you understand the basics and jargon/vocabulary of a subject it's pretty easy to do so.

But for me, I sometimes don't read the words. I just create a stream of images and impressions which I can use to later recall the material. Sort of like Tarot. The impressions are a "box" containing categories of information.

I'd think this is a typo, but it could be correct. Lady Maxine once mentioned she'd found a technique that allows one to place their hand on a book and instantly absorb the knowledge as if they'd read and remembered the entire thing.
There are also ways to learn to read extremely fast while remembering everything, like a few seconds per page.

I've heard about that, but how true is it? I think she mentioned that was what the woman claimed, but I don't think she said she did it herself?

And yeah, if you remove your internal dialogue and scan the words you can read in a way where it's sort of like flashing images of "concepts", but it's not very good for in-depth comprehension IMO, unless you go for a walk or something and ponder it. The memory consolidation is poor otherwise, at least for me. I mostly use it for reading literature, so it feels more like a movie.

 

[Giorno di Sole]

That is not a context which hyperbole would be used appropriately

Why?

 

[Nordicsupreme]

How did you do it? Or you must be like 90 yrs old. Please teach me your ways, Master hahahaha

If I have to read about one king for research I will only read about him from multiple books and not the whole book for the sake of reading books
Some people are just built different. My sibling too absorbs books like they are nothing. Has finished multiple books while working long hours and having an active social life

 

[Karnonnos [SG]]

It's a figure of speech in response to a questionable person or troll conflating Hitler with Pol Pot, but I have read endless, and I mean endless books, plans, scrolls, charts and whatever else throughout my lifetimes. So hundreds of thousands is not really hyperbolic in that sense, because the number is ultimately true. You cannot become ToZ Researcher while being barely able to interact with them. Not all books are novels of hundreds of thousands of words either, most books could not be that length historically.

When I was two years old I could communicate completely accurately with correct grammar, when I was four I was recalling things about adult intellectual subjects (things way beyond the realm of what children can ever know) in extreme accuracy that freaked out my teachers when they realized it was correct. That part is what is weird... and definitely not normal. There were tons of incidents like that. I couldn't figure out where this came from either because when rereading childhood books of mine, it had very little on those subjects.

As for absorbing contents of books by touch, no. That's not a skill I developed, and that takes a lot of time to accomplish. I have had elements of precognition and flashing of what exactly is in the book throughout my life, and that has become much more intense lately.

Think about volume in terms of the internet as well. People have a resistance to reading books because they're harder, they don't have this resistance to reading internet slop. Part of this is not just about reading in volume but WHAT you are deciding to read and WHETHER it is true or not.

People nowadays read endless content on their phones and in video games, estimated to be 100,000 words per day (easily equal to tens of thousands of books in some cases by age 35 supposing a person starts at age 12), that they would never, ever touch with books, but sorry, most of it is of little value. In some cultures like China, this level of reading was historically encouraged, but independent thought is not. So yes, a lot of the time instead of video gaming or reading the internet, I was just reading books instead.

The biggest leap forward with reading is being able to distinguish falsehood from truth, and this is very difficult. In most cases, it still requires practical and empirical experience of a subject. Beyond that, honing the psychic faculty is another thing altogether. Someone can have all the intellectual prerequisites, but if they have schizo tendencies, damaged lower Chakras and live in lalaland, no point. Others have an inbuilt defiant resistance to admitting they are wrong or even admitting they don't know, which is fatal to inquiry.

Another thing is that taste can sometimes interfere. With Astrology especially, but now with the Personalities, I read tons and tons of autobiographies and biographies. A lot of people won't do that if they find the figure or field they relate to in question uninteresting, or they hate them [on a personal level]. I was fascinated about people, so I abandoned that mindset quickly.

The amount the Clergy has read is beyond comprehension. They are the masters [just look at how HPS Maxine created a holistic Astrology system digging through endless b/s], and all of us Guardians are not on that level. Furthermore, SG Alex, for example, has more practical and visual knowledge than me. There are a lot of things outside of books.

 

[Ælberiigor]

Wdym by photographing just words? As in just seeing the words and not the images behind the words?

Look an illiterate who have to read letter per letter trying to build syllables up to recognize the word. Lake of experience make to be unable to understand a sentence because it's to difficult to memorize the word flow and make the link with cognitive mechanisms (=the image behind the word).

But if you read regularly, you read at least word per word. Other become more fluent and parse the whole sentence and so on.

But for me, I sometimes don't read the words. I just create a stream of images and impressions which I can use to later recall the material. Sort of like Tarot. The impressions are a "box" containing categories of information.

So, your level is correct.

I think to another point about the brain faculties and the mind.
The more you brain is trained, the better it can food the mind, and the more the mind eat the more it grows.
Mental images are shaped in the mind, not in the brain.

For me, the mind is a magnetic field generated by the electrical activity of the brain.
So mind mechanism is driven by quantic interactions going fast, while brain mechanism is based on electro-chemical interaction being slower.
The more this field is strong the more your are "intelligent", intellectually dynamic.

 

[sinbad]

Why?

I stand corrected

When I was two years old I could communicate completely accurately with correct grammar, when I was four I was recalling things about adult intellectual subjects (things way beyond the realm of what children can ever know) in extreme accuracy that freaked out my teachers when they realized it was correct. That part is what is weird... and definitely not normal. There were tons of incidents like that. I couldn't figure out where this came from either because when rereading childhood books of mine, it had very little on those subjects.

The situation with those teachers is kinda funny lmao, I wonder what was going through their heads. Must've felt like a fever dream LMAO

But I'd imagine this came from past lives? Unconscious memory access or perhaps some weird interaction with your mind and the Universe (e.g., similar to random bolts of knowledge coming from Mercury-Uranus aspects)?

Also I'm quite curious on the story how you were lead to Zevism in the first place

In some cultures like China, this level of reading was historically encouraged, but independent thought is not.

The Chinese in general seem to lack creativity and originality. They're very good at mimicking the structure of certain classical music pieces for example, but cannot make their own masterpieces as easily... I guess it's that Saturnian excess?

I wonder why the Japanese don't struggle with this despite their own similarly Saturnian samurai culture?

People nowadays read endless content on their phones and in video games, estimated to be 100,000 words per day (easily equal to tens of thousands of books in some cases by age 35 supposing a person starts at age 12), that they would never, ever touch with books, but sorry, most of it is of little value.

It's funny that the period of human history where advanced knowledge is more readily available than its ever been, people are also more ignorant than they've ever been.

Part of this is not just about reading in volume but WHAT you are deciding to read and WHETHER it is true or not.

The most annoying is when someone has read 1 book on a topic and thinks they're an expert, and it's some low IQ Jew gibberish anyway they parade around as gospel like all these Marxists

As for absorbing contents of books by touch, no. That's not a skill I developed, and that takes a lot of time to accomplish. I have had elements of precognition and flashing of what exactly is in the book throughout my life, and that has become much more intense lately.

That's pretty cool tho, do you know what changes are fascilitating your more intense experiences as of late?

And is this something you can train deliberately or you have to have very high levels of advancement first?

Another thing is that taste can sometimes interfere. With Astrology especially, but now with the Personalities, I read tons and tons of autobiographies and biographies. A lot of people won't do that if they find the figure or field they relate to in question uninteresting, or they hate them [on a personal level]. I was fascinated about people, so I abandoned that mindset quickly.

That makes me curious what subjects you are most attracted to outside of History and Zevism, or books that were foundational to your intellectual development? I'd imagine psychology and human nature are big one's.

The amount the Clergy has read is beyond comprehension. They are the masters [just look at how HPS Maxine created a holistic Astrology system digging through endless b/s], and all of us Guardians are not on that level. Furthermore, SG Alex, for example, has more practical and visual knowledge than me. There are a lot of things outside of books.

Definitely, I see what you mean. I'm familiar with filmmaking so I was impressed with SG Alex's ability to efficiently adapt and make subtle nuanced changes to psychologically control/direct the viewing experience (YouTube videos).

The biggest leap forward with reading is being able to distinguish falsehood from truth, and this is very difficult. In most cases, it still requires practical and empirical experience of a subject. Beyond that, honing the psychic faculty is another thing altogether. Someone can have all the intellectual prerequisites, but if they have schizo tendencies, damaged lower Chakras and live in lalaland, no point. Others have an inbuilt defiant resistance to admitting they are wrong or even admitting they don't know, which is fatal to inquiry.

Yeah, people have a lot of stupid ego defenses, it's irritating. I think luckily I have all of the positive factors you mentioned from past lives, and something you said on the old VT servers also helped me improve it quite a lot... you mentioned how Saturn can help to deal with hard Mercury-Uranus aspects.

I've found I basically just put everything through a massive "am I bullshitting myself?" filter and make sure to exhaust every logical possibility before forming a solid conclusion, until then I leave things open-ended unless I'm forced to make a decision quickly.

I will still entertain bullshit ideas to see if they lead somewhere interesting, and how other people will react and add to my understanding, but I'll keep it open in the back of my mind because otherwise it's not very conducive to brainstorming or discussions.

 

[sinbad]

Mental images are shaped in the mind, not in the brain.

For me, the mind is a magnetic field generated by the electrical activity of the brain.
So mind mechanism is driven by quantic interactions going fast, while brain mechanism is based on electro-chemical interaction being slower.
The more this field is strong the more your are "intelligent", intellectually dynamic.

Hmm, interesting, so you see it as the mind doesn't have a "physical anchor" so you believe it is faster because it is free from the restrictions of the material unlike the brain? Correct me if I'm wrong.

But why do you think mental images are in the mind only and not both?

 

[Way_Seeker666]

The post you questioned reminded me of a book you might be interested in,. It's the one I was thinking of that teaches one to read whole pages in seconds. It's called "The Photoreading whole Mind System". I think it's available for free.
I wanted to try it some years back but the learning process includes constantly using a stupid little drawing of Albert Einstein on a bicycle and that put me off.

Perhaps I should look into the legality of editing it for our community. It could be a valuable tool.

 

[Satan golden red ninja666]

It's a figure of speech in response to a questionable person or troll conflating Hitler with Pol Pot, but I have read endless, and I mean endless books, plans, scrolls, charts and whatever else throughout my lifetimes. So hundreds of thousands is not really hyperbolic in that sense, because the number is ultimately true. You cannot become ToZ Researcher while being barely able to interact with them. Not all books are novels of hundreds of thousands of words either, most books could not be that length historically.

When I was two years old I could communicate completely accurately with correct grammar, when I was four I was recalling things about adult intellectual subjects (things way beyond the realm of what children can ever know) in extreme accuracy that freaked out my teachers when they realized it was correct. That part is what is weird... and definitely not normal. There were tons of incidents like that. I couldn't figure out where this came from either because when rereading childhood books of mine, it had very little on those subjects.

As for absorbing contents of books by touch, no. That's not a skill I developed, and that takes a lot of time to accomplish. I have had elements of precognition and flashing of what exactly is in the book throughout my life, and that has become much more intense lately.

Think about volume in terms of the internet as well. People have a resistance to reading books because they're harder, they don't have this resistance to reading internet slop. Part of this is not just about reading in volume but WHAT you are deciding to read and WHETHER it is true or not.

People nowadays read endless content on their phones and in video games, estimated to be 100,000 words per day (easily equal to tens of thousands of books in some cases by age 35 supposing a person starts at age 12), that they would never, ever touch with books, but sorry, most of it is of little value. In some cultures like China, this level of reading was historically encouraged, but independent thought is not. So yes, a lot of the time instead of video gaming or reading the internet, I was just reading books instead.

The biggest leap forward with reading is being able to distinguish falsehood from truth, and this is very difficult. In most cases, it still requires practical and empirical experience of a subject. Beyond that, honing the psychic faculty is another thing altogether. Someone can have all the intellectual prerequisites, but if they have schizo tendencies, damaged lower Chakras and live in lalaland, no point. Others have an inbuilt defiant resistance to admitting they are wrong or even admitting they don't know, which is fatal to inquiry.

Another thing is that taste can sometimes interfere. With Astrology especially, but now with the Personalities, I read tons and tons of autobiographies and biographies. A lot of people won't do that if they find the figure or field they relate to in question uninteresting, or they hate them [on a personal level]. I was fascinated about people, so I abandoned that mindset quickly.

The amount the Clergy has read is beyond comprehension. They are the masters [just look at how HPS Maxine created a holistic Astrology system digging through endless b/s], and all of us Guardians are not on that level. Furthermore, SG Alex, for example, has more practical and visual knowledge than me. There are a lot of things outside of books.

Sorry SG I did not read entire post buy i have just one QEUSTION tho please do answer because it is really interesting what have said
The QEUSTION do really have that ability to touch and gain and understand that all the book knowledge that you have placed your hands over
I RECALL HPS MAXINE HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THIE ABILITY
MY OTHER IS
QEUSTION IS HOW DO PERFORM OR DEVELOP THIS THROUGH MERGING OF CONCIOUSNES OR WHAT ?
THIS IN ITSELF IS A POWERFUL AND USEFUL ABILITY TO HAVE

 

[sinbad]

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Definitely sounds like the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!

 

[Ælberiigor]

Hmm, interesting, so you see it as the mind doesn't have a "physical anchor" so you believe it is faster because it is free from the restrictions of the material unlike the brain? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Not exactly

But why do you think mental images are in the mind only and not both?

I'd say that :
- the mind is a bit like the astral or ethereal part of our brain
- the brain is a computer
- our ego is the sensation "to be", our internal look of all of these but its nature is psychological (a bit fake).

The brain is blind by itself, unable to understand. It just computes. When it receives and analyzes data from senses and body, the electrical flux it generates has a magnetic counterpart I call "mind". [The fact an electrical current has a magnetic counterpart is a basis of physics]
This magnetic level has also an incidence on the brain, generating an other data flux. Thoughts move on this magnetic level.

The whole act like a complex regulator.
Electronic regulator are based on retro action (output is redirected on input).
The circuit emits something via an amplifier or a comparator to drive a device (a motor), then the output of a captor (ex: speed) is redirected - via a filter - to the input of the system. So you stabilize the speed of the motor and adjust the setpoint with a tension, modify the sensibility by adjusting the filter...
I see the brain as being made up of thousands of systems like this, all trying to stabilize something.

hormones, senses, mind... act on the brain which analyze and stabilize all.
The resulting ego of these mechanics may or may not find the current situation pleasant and has the "power" to focus the activity on this or that and has the position to act on the wheel.

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But all the above is about engineering, no real intelligence in it because is related to the senses and physical things.
Another world full of abstract objects in interaction each others is the mind level.
If someone has a healthy brain able to bring the mind + an ego which feels pleasant to play with the mind, this one is intelligent.
The more the ego plays with the mind and its abstract objects, the more the brain is trained to servicing the mind, the more the brain hardwires faculties like counting, reading, searching in books...
Conversely, the more the ego plays with situations like watching porn, consuming drug... the more the brain over activate basic functions, the less the mind grows.... the more the individual become stupid.

To end, if you have to imagine a blue circle on a green background, the ego asks to the brain to activate the appropriate circuitry set up with the parameters "circle, background, blue and green" to generate in its magnetic field the picture, then the ego has to constraint the brain to maintain this state to look the picture appearing in the mind.

 

[Way_Seeker666]

Definitely sounds like the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!

Unfortunately the book is under copyright, so editing it and posting it here would be illegal and a violation of the forum rules.
I hoped it would not be as it's available all over the place for free, as it was when I first came across it.

 

[sinbad]

But all the above is about engineering, no real intelligence in it because is related to the senses and physical things.

I was thinking about Aquarius being the higher octave of Mercury and co-ruled by Saturn: Air + Earth, which is also true of the duality between Gemini and Virgo.

And that the highest form of intelligence is the synthesis of both the abstract and material to create a perfectly harmonious, and flowing, forward moving rhythmic interaction between the two types of thinking.

Conversely, the more the ego plays with situations like watching porn, consuming drug... the more the brain over activate basic functions, the less the mind grows.... the more the individual become stupid.

So in this case the material functions of the brain displace the abstract conceptions of the mind?

To end, if you have to imagine a blue circle on a green background, the ego asks to the brain to activate the appropriate circuitry set up with the parameters "circle, background, blue and green" to generate in its magnetic field the picture, then the ego has to constraint the brain to maintain this state to look the picture appearing in the mind.

How would this translate to the minds of children or schizophrenics? They seem to do it more effortlessly and unconsciously.