Part I. Evacuated Maria Oršić SS group meditating on Orion (Digital Art/Video of Zevism)

[AristocraticDragon666]

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

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This content has been allowed for free speech reasons, but also understand that these kinds of associations will hurt the Zevist movement by dissuading new people from joining.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

This content has been allowed for free speech reasons, but also understand that these kinds of associations will hurt the Zevist movement by dissuading new people from joining.

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

 

[Blitzkreig [SG]]

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

Your idea of Maria Orsic, or ideas relating to Zevism, meditation, and other core beliefs of ours, are totally different from what the average person has been led to believe. If these concepts are simply presented as is to the general public, they will reject them, no matter how much you may try to logically explain.

We need people connecting to the Gods and meditation, which will give them the tools to truly have proper ideas about reality. Yet, this doesn't happen when they come here and see a large Nazi thread, as they will just leave. In that case, what benefit did either they or ourselves gain from that?

Our ideas are not camouflaged in a manner outside of our control or in a way that suppresses our inner beliefs, but how we present and interact with others determines how much they will understand and adopt what we already know is true.

 

[Aquarius]

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

There's ways and ways to address yourself to a Supreme Guardian. You chose the worst.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Your idea of Maria Orsic, or ideas relating to Zevism, meditation, and other core beliefs of ours, are totally different from what the average person has been led to believe. If these concepts are simply presented as is to the general public, they will reject them, no matter how much you may try to logically explain.

We need people connecting to the Gods and meditation, which will give them the tools to truly have proper ideas about reality. Yet, this doesn't happen when they come here and see a large Nazi thread, as they will just leave. In that case, what benefit did either they or ourselves gain from that?

Our ideas are not camouflaged in a manner outside of our control or in a way that suppresses our inner beliefs, but how we present and interact with others determines how much they will understand and adopt what we already know is true.

We came here and found the Nazi flags and didn’t leave, if outsiders leave then they are just that, outsiders. I disagree with this SG.

Outreach is great, but not this.

 

[AFODO]

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

Just because you say this it doesn't make it respectful. You were indeed very disrespectful.
I know it's hard for people to make this change but we are Zevists which is a spiritual religion of the Gods, this is our main focus here from now on. Can you talk about Nazism and Satanism randomly to people on the street? No. Will they accept? No. Can you talk about ancient religions and Gods to people on the street? Yes. Will they accept? Maybe. Here is nothing different electronically, we are not meant to be a few thousands of people of the billions, but a recognized and accepted religion world wide.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Just because you say this it doesn't make it respectful. You were indeed very disrespectful.
I know it's hard for people to make this change but we are Zevists which is a spiritual religion of the Gods, this is our main focus here from now on. Can you talk about Nazism and Satanism randomly to people on the street? No. Will they accept? No. Can you talk about ancient religions and Gods to people on the street? Yes. Will they accept? Maybe. Here is nothing different electronically, we are not meant to be a few thousands of people of the billions, but a recognized and accepted religion world wide.

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

In every ancient Golden Age Civilization, the Mystery Schools had many different levels and layers where everything was kept secret. Only after years of practice and dedication on the first most basic level, then a student would be allowed to the next level to learn the next things.

The way things are done here now is to give like 90% or 95% of knowledge and information immediately publicly for anyone who cares to read it. As it is in desperation to try to educate as many people as fast as possible to pull humanity out of the pit of death, and allow us some hope of surviving and growing as a species with the help of the Gods.

But still, the idea of levels and layers of information building onto the previous layers so the total knowledge is formed in a healthy way with strong and clear foundations. This is how majority of people need to learn based on how our minds work. There are less people who will see a new idea, which would look very strange or ridiculous based on everything that they have heard or not heard in their lives until now, and immediately hold onto and trust this new idea without a strong foundation of knowledge beneath it, and then have to back fill and restore the missing necessary foundational information at a later time. That is not how most people are, and that should not be how most people are unless they naturally have an extremely strong and accurate intuition as an actual powerful psychic ability, which would allow them to immediately see and sort what is true or false to ensure that whatever new strange idea they hold onto actually is truth. For most people who have no significant amount of a functional or correct intuition, the trait or behavioral pattern of immediately holding onto a new strange idea without any strong foundation of evidence and knowledge, this would be a serious risk of those people falling down the wrong path of confusion and lies.


It is better not to scare people away by showing them the most strangest or confusing things first when they have not had the learning experience of learning the enormous voluminous amounts of foundational knowledge first. In the many different seperate layers that are required, with each one needing to build onto the previous one which must come first.

Nearly everybody on Earth has been indoctrinated for their entire lives by jewish lies about historical events. It would take enormous amounts of learning to be able to untangle those lies, hoaxes, and exaggerations before being able to come to the truth. And this same difficult struggle is existing in many different areas whether it is christianity, lies and slander against the Gods, lies and slander against the humans on Earth who worked with the Gods in various civilizations all over Earth, strange hollywood horror movie or conspiracy bullshit ideas about what life may or may not possibly exist on other planets, or the truth of what events did or did not happen the way that everyone was told in WWII. You are taking many very difficult topics which each would take a large amount of deprogramming and relearning to be able to understand, and putting them together in an image which would look absolutely ridiculous to almost everyone on Earth.

It is not about censorship or hiding any ideas, but it is about knowledge needing to come in layers and in the correct order and at the correct time when someone is ready to understand.

I think these pictures look very cool and interesting, and they are a nice looking quality. But to most people seeing something like this, it would be very similar to the drawings of jesus riding on a dinosaur, for the retarded christians who think Earth is only 6,000 years old so if dinosaurs were real, jesus would have met them. For us to see a picture of jesus riding on the back of a therapod dinosaur, it would look absolutely ridiculous. But I'm sure AI would be able to make an image of it that would actually look pretty cool. Maybe he is holding a machine gun in one hand, and the reigns/leash of the dinosaur in the other hand. The best reaction would be someone thinks the picture is nonsense, but it does look pretty cool. The worst reaction would be someone thinks we all must be retarded.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

These picture look very cool and interesting. It is amazing what quality can be done now by AI. I am not disliking the images. Just many people would be confused.

 

[AFODO]

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

Yes definitely, that's why a website is currently being made for full and complete history of the 20th century. There is a natural order in which beginners should learn about things, and in the correct context, explained fully. Not come here in hope to learn about spirituality and see Hitlers and swastikas all around. They'll leave. Also, we don't bend, you understand the situation incorrectly, it is the exact opposite.
In anyways, losing trust in the ToZ is the same thing as losing trust in the Gods. You can be the hero, the rebellious, the great, and the most cleaver in your world, and everyone else an idiot, especially those who have true connection to the Gods, but then don't go to the Gods asking for anything and crying to them either. "MercuryWisdom'...

 

[Helleniser]

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

The transition from the Joy of Satan to the Temple of Zeus was not made to appease the masses. It was made to clear misconceptions and confusion regarding Zeus and the Gods themselves. This "new" identity allows us to see the Gods for who they truly are.

Excessive emphasis on National Socialism, or on any human invention, can make one ignore the Gods and focus on things which, compared to spiritual advancement and connection with the Gods, are futile. The people behind National Socialism may have been close to the Gods, but we should focus on the Gods themselves. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't appreciate those who fought for the Gods, which is why our sites are being updated to ensure that National Socialist figures are remembered.

There is no plan in the Temple of Zeus to eradicate all references to National Socialism. The goal is to understand the Truth about that period without acting immaturely on the Forums (e.g. using Swastikas everywhere).

 

[MercuryWisdom]

especially those who have true connection to the Gods, but then don't go to the Gods asking for anything and crying to them either. "MercuryWisdom'...

What are you trying to insinuate? That because I disagree with you or this specific way of conduct, I’m cut off from the Gods and shouldn’t ask them anything.

This is real cunty behavior you know. Do better.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

There is no plan in the Temple of Zeus to eradicate all references to National Socialism. The goal is to understand the Truth about that period without acting immaturely on the Forums (e.g. using Swastikas everywhere).

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

 

[OrionKrieger]

Aristocratic Dragon has allot of interesting posts and i enjoy reading them, but as many others have stated, it is better if it’s done in a more professional manner.

A good suggestion would be to make a post without the use of images, because without them it opens up room for debate instead of throwing people off.

 

[Helleniser]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

The Swastika is a sacred symbol, indeed. That's why it's listed in the Symbols page. The problem is when members of the Forums use it everywhere, unaware of the fact that most people are not positive towards it. This makes many newcomers turn away immediately.

Eventually, people coming here will realise that Hitler was not who they thought he was. It's better, however, to make this a natural process and not force it on them from the very beginning.

My point about "immaturity" has to do with how some people do not understand the aforementioned reality and choose to use Swastikas everywhere. A mature choice would be to limit such "edginess".

 

[Epiphany]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

Part of maturity is being aware of image and the perception of others, and when you go around parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas, it does not evoke pleasant thoughts, feelings and perceptions from the rest of the world, despite what you may know about these things.

Zevism is a religion for every man and woman, the Gods want us all to reawaken our souls and connect with them and the higher things in life. We have to be conscious of how we come across to people and allow them to find the truth and shed falsehood naturally and organically, not by shocking them and larping as SS like some neanderthal neonazi off pol and stormfront. It's not about "appeasement" or "giving in", it's about being realistic, mature and responsible. These kneejerk reactions of yours are not based in rationality but holding onto a dark and edgy façade from the past like a security blanket, instead of looking forward, adapting and understanding the will and needs of the Gods and their temple.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Part of maturity is being aware of image and the perception of others, and when you go around parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas, it does not evoke pleasant thoughts, feelings and perceptions from the rest of the world, despite what you may know about these things.

Zevism is a religion for every man and woman, the Gods want us all to reawaken our souls and connect with them and the higher things in life. We have to be conscious of how we come across to people and allow them to find the truth and shed falsehood naturally and organically, not by shocking them and larping as SS like some neanderthal neonazi off pol and stormfront. It's not about "appeasement" or "giving in", it's about being realistic, mature and responsible. These kneejerk reactions of yours are not based in rationality but holding onto a dark and edgy façade from the past like a security blanket, instead of looking forward, adapting and understanding the will and needs of the Gods and their temple.

Yeah sure, I’m doing and saying all that I said because I’m dark and edgy. Not because it’s about truth or anything.

So

parading avatars of Hitler, nazi memorabilia and swastikas

Is not mature here anymore and “part of the past”. I still disagree with this. Hitler, Nazism and Swastikas are all honorable things and I would parade them, not that I do that often anyway, and not even the original post by AristocraticDragon that was almost deleted was “edgy” in anyway. Not because it’s oh so edgy. But because it’s deserving of parade and pride.

Anyway, this conduct is stupid and will always fail anyway. The enemies just have to mention that Hps Maxine’s husband was a Nazi and your so precious “new members” andrapoda are against you. So if you don’t wear it proudly, you have nothing to wear at all.

You are also heavily underestimating how much people actually value Adolf Hitler and Nazi philosophy, I would say Nazism is more on the rise than paganism would ever dream to be.

All of this bs conduct is inspired by Twitter. Trying to bring it to forums. But if you’re really on Twitter you’ll see how national socialism is well loved.

So the truth always wins anyway. Keep it close and the right ones will be awakened.

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be. Andrapodas, followers, and sheep will always exist and have done so in the golden ages. They are cowards and will always be. The brave ones are the ones that deserve the attention anyway, brave to know the truth. And this is the truth. Don’t bring cowardice to this temple.

 

[serpentwalker666]

What’s wrong with using Swastikas? What’s so immature about using Swastikas when the truth is they are an ancient and deeply powerful spiritual symbol?

By you saying using Swastikas is immature, you are giving in to the narrative that Swastikas = bad and evil and edgy, which is not the truth.

We must adapt and roll with the times so that we are able to bring the world into a high level of spiritual development and deep change of humanity.

Many people are programmed improperly about Hitler, and the Nazis. What Supreme Guardian Blitzkreig explained to you is the reality and what is CURRENTLY NECESSARY to do.
We are not living 6 years ago, or a decade before when there was not as much influx here. The stakes are higher and we have to change the world.

Many people already see Nazism and Hitler as it truly is, however with many people you so much as mention any of this and you could be imprisoned or killed, we cannot be foolish here. Many also are so strongly opposed they would leave and not reprogram and this would keep them away from Zevism entirely, this is not desirable and a large amount of time and energy wasted.

Also, I respect and love you Brother but you should not talk to SG Blitzkrieg like that, he is just being truthful with you about the current times and the very necessary approach we MUST take.

If you have further doubts, just approach your Guardian Daemon or Father Zeus and they will help you understand why this is being done.

 

[MasterJ192216]

Yeah sure, I’m doing and saying all that I said because I’m dark and edgy. Not because it’s about truth or anything.

So

Is not mature here anymore and “part of the past”. I still disagree with this. Hitler, Nazism and Swastikas are all honorable things and I would parade them, not that I do that often anyway, and not even the original post by AristocraticDragon that was almost deleted was “edgy” in anyway. Not because it’s oh so edgy. But because it’s deserving of parade and pride.

Anyway, this conduct is stupid and will always fail anyway. The enemies just have to mention that Hps Maxine’s husband was a Nazi and your so precious “new members” andrapoda are against you. So if you don’t wear it proudly, you have nothing to wear at all.

You are also heavily underestimating how much people actually value Adolf Hitler and Nazi philosophy, I would say Nazism is more on the rise than paganism would ever dream to be.

All of this bs conduct is inspired by Twitter. Trying to bring it to forums. But if you’re really on Twitter you’ll see how national socialism is well loved.

So the truth always wins anyway. Keep it close and the right ones will be awakened.

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be. Andrapodas, followers, and sheep will always exist and have done so in the golden ages. They are cowards and will always be. The brave ones are the ones that deserve the attention anyway, brave to know the truth. And this is the truth. Don’t bring cowardice to this temple.

Yes, go on X and parade with the Nationalist-Christian, because 95 % of the NS worshipper there are Christian. Go with follow your true identity with your Christian buddies on X.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Yes, go on X and parade with the Nationalist-Christian, because 95 % of the NS worshipper there are Christian. Go with follow your true identity with your Christian buddies on X.

Adolf Hitler was a Satanist, occultist, Zevist. So I would rather parade here on the forums with my SS buddies, thank you very much.

 

[Helleniser]

Adolf Hitler was a Satanist, occultist, Zevist. So I would rather parade here on the forums with my SS buddies, thank you very much.

We still believe that Hitler was a Hero. As far as I know, he will have his own dedicated page on the Zevist Personalities section in the future, along with other figures of National Socialism. Using NS imagery everywhere would make one think that we are a political organisation. What we aim to do, instead, is present logical arguments in defense of Hitler in just one of our various websites. Posting Swastikas everywhere won't persuade anyone.

 

[Epiphany]

And no I don’t believe Zevism is for every man and woman, never was and never will be.

Of course, I forgot you knew what's best for the Temple, I should have realized that when you told that tyrannical SG Blitzkrieg off for ... spreading awareness and upholding free speech even to the point of allowing you to disrespect him.

So brave, good thing you aren't a coward, imagine where we would be if you were. Truly.

Regardless, it doesn't matter what you believe because the fact is that Zevism is the original religion of mankind. Note: mankind. Not just "some people". Not "national socialists". Mankind. This is the inheritance that the Gods left for humanity.

The Purpose of the Original Religion of Mankind

"The Temple of Zeus is the original and true religion of mankind.

In what we refer to as a religion, the aims are be the following:

1. Liberating the human spirit through knowledge and wisdom
2. Empowering the human soul through meditation to achieve immortality
3. Forming an alliance with the Gods to attain higher states of consciousness, knowledge, and understanding
4. Emphasizing proper ethics that promote power and life, so that existence can thrive
5. Promoting the well-being of both the individual and society as a whole, with the aim of benefiting all
6. Advancing scientific, intellectual, and physical/material progress alongside sacred spiritual development"

From my point of view you’re pissing on the memory of the true people of our Gods who fought and died and ascended for the sake of our cause.

What’s next? We are going to brush off Hps Maxine Dietrich because her husband was a Nazi or something and that doesn’t “look good” on your resume of world wide accepted religion?

Are we going to praise Alexander the Great but brush off Adolf Hitler, because of the Andrapoda’s poor little feelings?

WE DON’T BEND TO THE WORLD, IT BENDS TO US. PERIOD.

Yes, I’m a Satanist and a Nazi and if these things don’t have place here anymore, then what, I don’t have place here?

We worship Truth, Truth might hurt, might be eccentric, might be shocking but only pure, unfiltered truth has my loyalty. That was HPS Maxine’s legacy.

Yes, you're so rebellious and so aligned with the pure, unfiltered truth that you still refer to the God of Gods by a corrupted name that comes from the enemy's context despite the fact that we know the original names of our God and our religion predates the enemy's by thousands of years.

Since you're so courageous, so pure and unfiltered and strong and loyal and truthful, go on the street and tell the world about how you're a satanic nazi from outer space. Go to your local mosque and tell them you worship Satan. Show everybody how the world bends to you. Then raise yourself from the dead and tell us how it went. You can go on that dummy mission if you want to but don't expect us to follow.

You act as if nazism is the end all be all of being a zevist. It's not. Our religion is not dependent on politics, it is a spiritual path, a religion that transcends political affairs. Keyword: religion. We have a structure, a hierarchy and a religious doctrine here, it is not determined by any one man's feelings or opinions but by the will of the Gods, and it goes back many thousands of years, long before a 20th century political movement. It is not against HPS Maxine or her legacy either as you are insinuating, it is building on top of the foundation she laid for us.

Please read these very important articles:

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[Disciple of the Serpent]

Respectfully, SG, what you’re saying is complete bs. It’s a dark day if we “camouflage” our beliefs and values to fit the narrative.

Nazism and Maria Orsic as well Hitler who are on Orion that is true, are honorable things and deserve honor and praise, not threats of censorship and deletion not to “dissuade” new people, fuck new people if they can’t handle stuff from our beliefs like extra terrestrials or Nazism, then they are not true. We read and educated ourselves and we believe by both faith and experience.

Although I even dislike the main post as it’s AI and Maria Orsic is bald or something so even that art doesn’t do her justice. I adore Maria Orsic, there is NOTHING to delete about this.

You need to go easy on the delete button, Hps Maxine once mentioned everyone should be able to post and communicate, unless very obvious blasphemy to the Gods which is inexcusable.

I say all this respectfully and hope it doesn’t get taken the wrong way, but seeing this post from you shook me as it’s not how it’s supposed to be here.

You aren't that smart then, you need to understand context.

In regard of Joy of Satan and Temple of Zeus, Satan was how Lord Zeus was knew in darkages. Why? Because there wasn't another way to approach the Gods, but only within the context of abrahamic cults (christianity, islam, judaism, and related).
The Gods survived in the mass mind as Satan and Demons.

Our essence didn't change, we are restoring in full glory beyond limited contexts, and we don't answer to any enemy of whatever.

Then nazism is a thing of ~85 years ago, a total different world than today.
Today is good in a sense, at least some people do something to defend against White genocide.
But basically besides that, is made up by a lot of christians that think, that if a new Reich rise up, they will do a lot of breeding with a lot of Aryan women.
You know... they were nazis OGs, they deserve that.

Sorry to be vulgar, but it's true.

For the rest, for them is just this:
"jews are evil, we are victims, please Hitler, jesus or whatever, save us".
Which is a thing that end on itself.
Rest is all nostalgia of times they didn't live, because the present is so painful and lost.
And they are so fragile to actually do something.

You watched a streamer calling random people niggers, you did your part, you saved the world, you are a racial hero, a real OG.

Being a dumb antisemite victim is very easy, christians do that, wokies do that.
But our point as Zevists isn't being part of the masses, or being fed up with victimhood and ignorance.

We need to grow a strong Community, we need people to become Rich, we need networks in our Community, we need to have big Families, and we need to grow, support and push Temple of Zeus to the Top.
We stand up Strong.

Temple of Zeus is the way to God, the only True Religion, and here you have all the tools to save yourself, and as extention humanity, and the White Race. More simply, Temple of Zeus is the needed Salvation, and we must all act.

We don't have a bleeding and victimized heart against the jews, christians or whatever.
We simply act to do what is neccessary. There were torah curses, hebrew matrix of spells on this world.

We destroyed it, without mercy.

There is a threat of some kind? It is destroyed spiritually.

Simple as that. We remove problems, and then we focus on growing ourselves and our Community.

Rabbi shmuel and the rest of his supporters try to curse us?
Who cares, we just deal with it, their curses are backfired, and they are spiritually destroyed for that.
But I don't cry all my life because how much jews, christians are evil, on X or whatever.

The enemy is nothing here, and I mean nothing.

We have our objectives to achieve, let's focus fully on these.

Then if you love to cosplay with SS uniform, do it, but it's pointless, and currently is also dangerous and can lead to serious consequences.

All the above is just based on logic.


And for the future, learn that you have everything to learn from Supreme Guardians.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Of course, I forgot you knew what's best for the Temple, I should have realized that when you told that tyrannical SG Blitzkrieg off for ... spreading awareness and upholding free speech even to the point of allowing you to disrespect him.

So brave, good thing you aren't a coward, imagine where we would be if you were. Truly.

Regardless, it doesn't matter what you believe because the fact is that Zevism is the original religion of mankind. Note: mankind. Not just "some people". Not "national socialists". Mankind. This is the inheritance that the Gods left for humanity.

The Purpose of the Original Religion of Mankind

"The Temple of Zeus is the original and true religion of mankind.

In what we refer to as a religion, the aims are be the following:

1. Liberating the human spirit through knowledge and wisdom
2. Empowering the human soul through meditation to achieve immortality
3. Forming an alliance with the Gods to attain higher states of consciousness, knowledge, and understanding
4. Emphasizing proper ethics that promote power and life, so that existence can thrive
5. Promoting the well-being of both the individual and society as a whole, with the aim of benefiting all
6. Advancing scientific, intellectual, and physical/material progress alongside sacred spiritual development"

Yes, you're so rebellious and so aligned with the pure, unfiltered truth that you still refer to the God of Gods by a corrupted name that comes from the enemy's context despite the fact that we know the original names of our God and our religion predates the enemy's by thousands of years.

Since you're so courageous, so pure and unfiltered and strong and loyal and truthful, go on the street and tell the world about how you're a satanic nazi from outer space. Go to your local mosque and tell them you worship Satan. Show everybody how the world bends to you. Then raise yourself from the dead and tell us how it went. You can go on that dummy mission if you want to but don't expect us to follow.

You act as if nazism is the end all be all of being a zevist. It's not. Our religion is not dependent on politics, it is a spiritual path, a religion that transcends political affairs. Keyword: religion. We have a structure, a hierarchy and a religious doctrine here, it is not determined by any one man's feelings or opinions but by the will of the Gods, and it goes back many thousands of years, long before a 20th century political movement. It is not against HPS Maxine or her legacy either as you are insinuating, it is building on top of the foundation she laid for us.

Please read these very important articles:

ZEVISTS: Our New Name, Zeus & Thunder Power - Sat & Zev

Greetings to everyone in our SS family, I am below going to explain all the background and symbolical processes so that we continue in the path of higher knowledge and awareness. Soon, the Symbols Page in our site will be updated, showing you deeper truths and understanding. In Ancient Greek...

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Answering Concerns About ToZ [The Other Side Of It]

I realized there are some pertinent questions in regards to the transition to ToZ and how that might affect the living structure of your lives, such as for example calling your Gods with the Ancient True Names and not by the names Jews and related given to them. The highest and rather...

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Why The Temple of Zeus Is Not A Political Organization

Zevism transcends politics. Politics is the current leadership and organization of existence of a state based on the necessities of the time. Political organization means that one is essentially something like a political party; seeking to take over these subsets of life. But we extend beyond...

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Temple of Zeus Final Response: About “Jews”, “Hitler”, “National Socialism” & Politics

Now let’s examine these hot topics which revolve mainly around misunderstandings and accusations. The Temple of Zeus is not a political organization. As that is a topic of high interest, I am writing this post to explain to everyone how we perceive that topic. One and for all, this topic will...

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Not happy with the zeus thing

The previous name tied us to the other "Satanic" groups who couldn't be more dissimilar us in almost every way. In practice (meditation, ritual, ect) we have more in common with judaism than any of these "Satanist" groups, mainly because judaism stole old occult Pagan knowledge while modern...

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Satan is a jewish name now, OH FUCK OFF.

Again, I’m not saying Nazism is everything, never had in the past either. But I don’t believe it should be brushed off or censored or deleted.

And no, dumbass, Spiritual Satanism/Zevism is not a religion for everyone never has and never will this has been written endlessly by our High Priests both Hps Maxine and Hp HC. Can you read?

Zevism: An Aristocratic Religion

Zevism: An Aristocratic Religion Not to mislead in the title of this topic, Zevism is truly an Aristocratic religion. But Aristocratic, not in the financial sense, nor in the sense of pretense. There is a certain degree of difference a human being must have in order to become a Zevist. That...

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Oh I understand now, the new forum’s target audience, according to you, is people from my local mosque. What a fucking toilet.

And don’t go on harping about religion, I know our religion more than you’ll ever comprehend I’ve been here longer and before you. I’m practicing it, studied it and have been with the Gods for lifetimes.

 

[MasterJ192216]

Adolf Hitler was a Satanist, occultist, Zevist. So I would rather parade here on the forums with my SS buddies, thank you very much.

And then you keep missing the biggest picture here. We are working to save humanity from total destruction. The mass is brainwashed that NS and Hitler were bad. How do you awaken a Zevist soul using images and subjects that have been implanted in people's brains as evil?


I understand your perspective, but we cannot allow this image to tarnish our temple and the sacrifices made by those men and women both in the past and over the last 20 years. Can we let the past behind us and create our own destiny here and save humanity?

 

[Disciple of the Serpent]

I know our religion more than you’ll ever comprehend I’ve been here longer and before you. I’m practicing it, studied it and have been with the Gods for lifetimes.

No, you don't.

I will be very direct with you, you are just acting like a child, or like a noisy bitch, costantly complaining.

You are Translator here, and you have this rank, so act like one, in a honorable way.

And respect the Hierarchy here, of which you are part of.
Stop bitching around, and man up.

People replied to you to let grow your understanding, and you just insulted them.
All the people who replied to you here, do on the daily basis more than you do, and therefore have gained an higher understanding and ranking.

That's how things work in this universe, and is based on Hierarchy, work and reward.

Also the Gods are part of this Hierarchy, and our Goal in Zevism is to become Gods ourselves.
Fact that will make you re-think about the Concept of Hierarchy.

I was rude, because you also were rude.

Lastly, if you think to already know, you will never be able to learn anything. And showing Reason, Truth and Knowledge will be pointless, at least in your regards.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Anyone saying that Satan is a corrupted or a bad name or comes in anyway way from christians or jews is extremely wrong. Where have you been for all these years if you still believe that Satanas, Satya, SaTaNaMa are jewish or christian? Y'all need to do the Grand Ritual of Zeus more times if you don't understand this. We moved to prioritizing the name Zeus because it was the most commonly used name by the most people, not because Satan/Satya/Satanas was bad or wrong in any way.

An argument where Mercury Wisdom is being a complete childish clown, and some how the people arguing against him make such a ridiculous mistake like that to make it look like he is right.

I found a video of Mercury Wisdom trying to create respectful, insightful, and well thought out responses.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

And don’t go on harping about religion, I know our religion more than you’ll ever comprehend I’ve been here longer and before you. I’m practicing it, studied it and have been with the Gods for lifetimes.

Brother, I am thankful for your contributions and dedication to Zevism, and we all share your admiration and respect towards enigmatic personalities like Adolf Hitler and Maria Oršić (whom I hold in the same regard as you due to her Croatian roots). But, it was already mentioned many times, even by HPHC, that we embraced the Zevist identity not because we reject Satan (Zeus) or Hitler and other NS personalities, but because the world has been brainwashed in expressing fear and hatred towards the names Satan and Hitler due to enemy propaganda and programming. If a random person stumbled upon our movement here or on webpages and saw the name Satan, he or she would most likely show fear or link us to other Satanic movements, especially someone like a Christian or a Muslim who has been taught to view Satan (Iblis) as the embodiment of "evil." The same thing would go for straightforward accentuation of National Socialism, which is also seen as the boogeyman by the naive and brainwashed Gentiles.

We now use his name, Zeus, as a way of addressing him, including any Pagan name he may have been given by our ancestors, such as Perun for the Slavs. My ancestors, and yours, all had our ways of paying respect to the Great One, so you are free to use any of those names when addressing him, including Satan, which was not used by the world until the plague of Christianity spread to Europe and other parts of the world where Jewish and Christian mongrels spread their fleas. As Helleniser mentioned, the NS figures like Adolf Hitler and others will eventually have their own personality articles featured in the Personalities, and I am just as excited as you to translate those texts for my people.

 

[Nordicsupreme]

When you limit the entire history of Gods only to World War 2 history you deny the endless help the Gods have provided to various cultures be it the Indus Valley Civilization, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Roman Empire and endless instances throughout human history.
The problem is that you try and limit the Gods to the Nazi Regime which was a small and limited aspect of their true essence. We understand you might get emotional since you feel connected to that Imagery much more and the Heroes of the Nazi Regime do deserve their due respect for their works for Humanity.
I say this with the best of interests, there are many Gentile souls who may have programming against the Nazi Imagery, overusing and limiting our Gods to a set of Imagery that existed for a maximum of 3 decades is a dishonor to the Gods itself.
Every Gentile soul from all over the world has a right to connect to the Ancient Gods. As members of this Forum, it is your duty to ensure no Gentile due to your personal limitations is turned away from the Temple.
You being emotional and going nuclear on your own brothers does no justice and it is uncalled for by them. You have a right to feel emotionally connected to the Nazi Regime like many of us are, however it is also your duty to see the bigger picture. Treat the SGs with respect dear Brother.
@MercuryWisdom Nobody is mad at you but try and understand the big picture. There are many threats the Clergy's and SGs face which are not shared with us. If you truly feel hurt raise the same to Gods and they might show you how the Nazi Regime was not even 1% of the Total Empire of Orion. They are our Heroes and without them we would not be here. But as members it is your duty to scale up and make the Gods proud.

 

[Pan_Shaman]

This video feels right. Man what a childish way to react

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Brother, I am thankful for your contributions and dedication to Zevism, and we all share your admiration and respect towards enigmatic personalities like Adolf Hitler and Maria Oršić (whom I hold in the same regard as you due to her Croatian roots). But, it was already mentioned many times, even by HPHC, that we embraced the Zevist identity not because we reject Satan (Zeus) or Hitler and other NS personalities, but because the world has been brainwashed in expressing fear and hatred towards the names Satan and Hitler due to enemy propaganda and programming. If a random person stumbled upon our movement here or on webpages and saw the name Satan, he or she would most likely show fear or link us to other Satanic movements, especially someone like a Christian or a Muslim who has been taught to view Satan (Iblis) as the embodiment of "evil." The same thing would go for straightforward accentuation of National Socialism, which is also seen as the boogeyman by the naive and brainwashed Gentiles.

We now use his name, Zeus, as a way of addressing him, including any Pagan name he may have been given by our ancestors, such as Perun for the Slavs. My ancestors, and yours, all had our ways of paying respect to the Great One, so you are free to use any of those names when addressing him, including Satan, which was not used by the world until the plague of Christianity spread to Europe and other parts of the world where Jewish and Christian mongrels spread their fleas. As Helleniser mentioned, the NS figures like Adolf Hitler and others will eventually have their own personality articles featured in the Personalities, and I am just as excited as you to translate those texts for my people.

Hello, brother. Thank you for this message and being respectful. People often say I wasn’t respectful here. I acknowledge that. But other than my message to SG Blitzkreig (It was sheer emotionalism and shock). I was insulted first. Like with Afodo saying the Gods would shun me, or Epiphany sarcastically taking anything I’d say and not listening. Or the rest of the cluster fuck who joined in because it’s cool. WITHOUT LISTENING.

That’s the thing brother that I just don’t understand. How can we make people join if they only join if we aren’t being authentic?

So we just tell people we worship Zeus now, and when they find out there’s Satan or Nazism in the background they will leave?

So we should “hide” the Satanism and Nazism for “new” people? It doesn’t make sense to me because this is who we are, this is who I am, Satan and Nazism hold great fondness to me and I understand trying to “hide” these parts of me in real life, but now I have to do it in our own spiritual home too? And for what? New people, who from your descriptions and everyone else’s here are no different than andrapodas.

Do you understand how this comes as a shock and makes me feel? I am an outsider now in even my own spiritual home.

I feel like maybe I should distance myself from the forums then, that I don’t belong.

I didn’t know the change from Joy of Satan into Temple of Zeus was to appease outsiders, I only listened to it because it was a new truth and update into our knowledge for our deities. Not a change to our essence like this, that we are no longer being authentic because we want higher reach. I would want the JoS/ToZ to grow but grow authentically not having to hide or look better for the masses.

People and the masses will figure out our roots in Satanism and Nazism with a quick google search or a quick read in our sites too, so I don’t understand how any of this makes a difference. You want them to be in too deep before they can leave?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

And I don't disagree with Mercury Wisdom either. I only disagree with his bad attitude and refusing to listen to what anyone is saying. His opinion is valid and correct, and the rest of our opinions are also valid and correct. There is not only one idea that is 100% good and every other idea is 100% bad. We all are part right. He is just wrong for being so closed minded. And being unable to understand what all of us are explaining.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Hello, brother. Thank you for this message and being respectful. People often say I wasn’t respectful here. I acknowledge that. But other than my message to SG Blitzkreig (It was sheer emotionalism and shock). I was insulted first. Like with Afodo saying the Gods would shun me, or Epiphany sarcastically taking anything I’d say and not listening. Or the rest of the cluster fuck who joined in because it’s cool. WITHOUT LISTENING.

That’s the thing brother that I just don’t understand. How can we make people join if they only join if we aren’t being authentic?

So we just tell people we worship Zeus now, and when they find out there’s Satan or Nazism in the background they will leave?

So we should “hide” the Satanism and Nazism for “new” people? It doesn’t make sense to me because this is who we are, this is who I am, Satan and Nazism hold great fondness to me and I understand trying to “hide” these parts of me in real life, but now I have to do it in our own spiritual home too? And for what? New people, who from your descriptions and everyone else’s here are no different than andrapodas.

Do you understand how this comes as a shock and makes me feel? I am an outsider now in even my own spiritual home.

I feel like maybe I should distance myself from the forums then, that I don’t belong.

I didn’t know the change from Joy of Satan into Temple of Zeus was to appease outsiders, I only listened to it because it was a new truth and update into our knowledge for our deities. Not a change to our essence like this, that we are no longer being authentic because we want higher reach. I would want the JoS/ToZ to grow but grow authentically not having to hide or look better for the masses.

People and the masses will figure out our roots in Satanism and Nazism with a quick google search or a quick read in our sites too, so I don’t understand how any of this makes a difference. You want them to be in too deep before they can leave?

Read my original message again and you would understand perfectly. You never read it.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

Read my original message again and you would understand perfectly. You never read it.

I agree that spiritual practices should be layered. As in a beginner shouldn’t attempt advanced spirituality and take it step by step.

But with knowledge and our beliefs being layered, I feel this sounds to me like Scientology. Where in level ultra elite celebrity status you’ll get the full truth about our beliefs.

I don’t believe the truth should be layered. Learning should be taken step by step yes, but I don’t see how the main site doesn’t layer everything to someone who wants to learn the truth (keyword is wants the truth) in a good way. So I read the main page and oh so Satan is not evil? I read a couple more pages, wait Satan is from an ancient ET civilization I have heard of this before, Annunaki something or ancient Egypt then he/she will keep reading and understand. Like we did.

I agree the pictures by AristocraticDragon if seen by outsiders, and not helping it’s AI, it wouldn’t be understood. But that doesn’t mean it should be deleted. Because the forums are supposed to be for us, people who have already read the JoS/ToZ website and have questions or need community.

So that’s why when I saw that this post would’ve been deleted I was shocked, deleted why? New people shouldn’t be here anyway, they should be on the main sites, reading, studying. Like all of us have done. The site layers the info to people who want the truth.

The masses don’t want the truth and no amount of pandering to pagans, or removing Nazi mentions would change that. This is why I don’t think that this religion is for every single person. (Not my own thoughts only too this has been written endlessly by clergy) Most people don’t want the truth. Some people do, those are who matter.

People here keep mentioning people on the street, muslims, xians, as examples of who would be weirded out by our beliefs. I ask why are they your target anyway? These people are not worth it and will probably live a lifetime not deserving of the truth or would look for it.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

And I don't disagree with Mercury Wisdom either. I only disagree with his bad attitude and refusing to listen to what anyone is saying. His opinion is valid and correct, and the rest of our opinions are also valid and correct. There is not only one idea that is 100% good and every other idea is 100% bad. We all are part right. He is just wrong for being so closed minded. And being unable to understand what all of us are explaining.

My attitude is shit I know that but I’m very emotional about this.

 

[Umun]

Hello, brother. Thank you for this message and being respectful. People often say I wasn’t respectful here. I acknowledge that. But other than my message to SG Blitzkreig (It was sheer emotionalism and shock). I was insulted first. Like with Afodo saying the Gods would shun me, or Epiphany sarcastically taking anything I’d say and not listening. Or the rest of the cluster fuck who joined in because it’s cool. WITHOUT LISTENING.

That’s the thing brother that I just don’t understand. How can we make people join if they only join if we aren’t being authentic?

So we just tell people we worship Zeus now, and when they find out there’s Satan or Nazism in the background they will leave?

So we should “hide” the Satanism and Nazism for “new” people? It doesn’t make sense to me because this is who we are, this is who I am, Satan and Nazism hold great fondness to me and I understand trying to “hide” these parts of me in real life, but now I have to do it in our own spiritual home too? And for what? New people, who from your descriptions and everyone else’s here are no different than andrapodas.

Do you understand how this comes as a shock and makes me feel? I am an outsider now in even my own spiritual home.

I feel like maybe I should distance myself from the forums then, that I don’t belong.

I didn’t know the change from Joy of Satan into Temple of Zeus was to appease outsiders, I only listened to it because it was a new truth and update into our knowledge for our deities. Not a change to our essence like this, that we are no longer being authentic because we want higher reach. I would want the JoS/ToZ to grow but grow authentically not having to hide or look better for the masses.

People and the masses will figure out our roots in Satanism and Nazism with a quick google search or a quick read in our sites too, so I don’t understand how any of this makes a difference. You want them to be in too deep before they can leave?

So, I don't want to comment on the previous part of this discussion, just chiming in on this reply.

I realize how it might seem like what you're saying - that our recent transformation comes at a cost of authenticity and with the aim to accommodate the expansion efforts and the position of newcomers but actually it is the exact opposite. This aspect of our spectrum of existence that is being emphasized is only adding to our authenticity because it is who we really are. No one is acting or pretending especially not to gain numbers because those that belong in our fold will end up here regardless of details and circumstances.

I care very little for labels and appearances but still hold some emotional ties to being a satanist (in spite of all the unfortunate associations that it brings in the minds of the ignorant public), addressing our Father as Satan because of all the beautiful and strong realities like the all important Truth that it entails. At the same time it is important to acknowledge what our growth brings. Very simple yet simultaneously complex and nuanced. For me it all comes down to the eternal truth that is reality, more of which gets revealed to us along the way.

I sincerely wish that your inner conflict on this matter is soon resolved (and it surely will) so that it doesn't produce adversity and form impediments on your path, as well as for anyone who's still digesting these questions.

All the best

SWP

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

I agree that spiritual practices should be layered. As in a beginner shouldn’t attempt advanced spirituality and take it step by step.

But with knowledge and our beliefs being layered, I feel this sounds to me like Scientology. Where in level ultra elite celebrity status you’ll get the full truth about our beliefs.

I don’t believe the truth should be layered. Learning should be taken step by step yes, but I don’t see how the main site doesn’t layer everything to someone who wants to learn the truth (keyword is wants the truth) in a good way. So I read the main page and oh so Satan is not evil? I read a couple more pages, wait Satan is from an ancient ET civilization I have heard of this before, Annunaki something or ancient Egypt then he/she will keep reading and understand. Like we did.

I agree the pictures by AristocraticDragon if seen by outsiders, and not helping it’s AI, it wouldn’t be understood. But that doesn’t mean it should be deleted. Because the forums are supposed to be for us, people who have already read the JoS/ToZ website and have questions or need community.

So that’s why when I saw that this post would’ve been deleted I was shocked, deleted why? New people shouldn’t be here anyway, they should be on the main sites, reading, studying. Like all of us have done. The site layers the info to people who want the truth.

The masses don’t want the truth and no amount of pandering to pagans, or removing Nazi mentions would change that. This is why I don’t think that this religion is for every single person. (Not my own thoughts only too this has been written endlessly by clergy) Most people don’t want the truth. Some people do, those are who matter.

People here keep mentioning people on the street, muslims, xians, as examples of who would be weirded out by our beliefs. I ask why are they your target anyway? These people are not worth it and will probably live a lifetime not deserving of the truth or would look for it.

Well this post was not deleted. So that idea is invalid. There was only a warning of something that would be good to think about. And all of these knowledge and ideas are freely available on the websites for anybody who wants to read them, so nothing is hidden or locked away or limited. It just does not need to be the very first thing for a new person to ever see, which likely would turn most people away. Let the people see some other ideas first that are easier to understand and easier to accept, then the progress builds gradually. But for anyone who wants to learn all of these things, it is in all the websites available.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

There really is not any strong disagreement here. Mostly just a misunderstanding. Which would be avoided by everybody staying calm and reading everyone's replies in a calm and rational way.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

There really is not any strong disagreement here. Mostly just a misunderstanding. Which would be avoided by everybody staying calm and reading everyone's replies in a calm and rational way.

Mercury has gone retro anyway.
I apologize to everyone here.

I agree that Nazism shouldn’t be plastered everywhere in a hysterical/neurotic way. But I didn’t see that here in this post it was very innocent. So I felt defensive. As if certain concepts of truth are not welcome here anymore.