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"If Enki and Enlil are both Zeus, why do they fight?" - My Opinion

OttoHart

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I will preface this explanation with some choice words by HPHC:
"Myth = Symbolism and coded divine information, and never literal events that transpired physically. Myths exist to illustrate ultimate realities and what the Initiate is supposed to do to enlighten themselves in the context of their spiritual processes."

The Sumerian mythologies and systems are some of the most fascinating, as they were the last Empire who met the Gods directly. However, due to historical friction and their old age, we have very little left of these systems. Some of the best information on Sumeria can be found in our Libraries and main site, by HPS Maxine and HPHC, where the best publicly available info has been compiled, as well as added to based on personal revelations.
Others like Zachiaria Stitchin, as well as some modern historians, have made some progress as well, while also making mistakes.
The Enemy also accidentally kept some elements alive, through its Creation and Flood Myth, as well as other Myths of the Enemy, which have been thoroughly exposed by ToZ.

Now that our knowledge of our God, Zeus, is far more clear, we have a lot of answers to past questions, but many might also have new questions.

One such question I ended up having was "Well, if Enki and Enlil are the same person, what does the myth where they fight over creation mean?".

Someone could easily, from this, get angry and make a Forum post yelling at HPHC that this doesn't make any sense. I didn't. I prayed to Zeus for answers and then went and did research, with clarity and religious zeal to find answers.

It's actually quite simple. In the Creation story, Zeus is once again a Trinity, like in the East or in Greece (Hades-Poseidon-Zeus, or Zefs-Dias-Zinas).
He is Anu, the Creative Principle and Divine Mind, who does not intervene in human affairs.
He is Enlil, the maintainer of life and hierarchy, who enforces the principles of fate and natural life.
He is Enki, the purifier and mysterious guide, who offers Godhead.

Here, Anu does not intervene, but Enlil and Enki are "at odds".
This is another allegory for the power of the Gods over nature, such as the Titanomachy in Greece, but here, the focus is on Zeus (here, as Enki) and his love for humanity, and his promise of Godhead.

First, the Divine is at stasis, as the Igigi, a younger class of gods, were forced to toil endlessly. This is the primordial state of nature.

Zeus and the Gods stand at the top of the hierarchy, and life works under their decrees.

Then, the Igigi rebel, and are slain by the Gods.

A Divine council is called, where the identities of Zeus as Enlil (patriarch of existence and highest of Gods) and as Enki (bringer of Godhead and creator of Humanity) debate over creating humanity.

Enki suggested fashioning humans from clay (as physical beings), but to give them life and divine spark (a rational soul with the capacity for advancement). They would mix the clay with the blood of a slain god.

In the Akkadian version, the god Geshtu-e, a God representing intelligence, willed to be chosen. He was sacrificed, and from his blood and the earth, humans were shaped by Enki and the womb-goddess Nintu.

The new humans are meant to work for the Gods and glorify them, but this is now a Divine purpose, from where Godhead can be achieved.

From then onwards, the Enemy steals this mythology in order to frame their own God as some leader of creation, and to frame the one who granted Godhead as a villain.
Judaism, here, was very limited in its understanding, as these two were truly the same being, as this myth acts as an allegorical explanation of Divine processes.

In Sumeria, we see plenty more myths where more Gods are created and they go on to bless humanity, so neither Enlil nor Enki are seen as negative, and they were equally worshipped.

Would Sumerians know that they are the same being? Unlikely that average farmers would, nor would they care. Not every person who worshipped the Gods was some sort of theologian or occultist. But there were certainly High Priests who knew.
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Thank you for the in-depth approach. In a similar manner, the metaphor of Zeus fighting Cronus is not literal, but rather symbolises Zeus embracing order within the Universe.

Cronus is etymologically related to the word "Chronos" (Χρόνος), meaning "Time". Zeus fighting Cronus means that he opposed the pointless passing of time, so he gave form to everything in the Universe.

Cronus eating his children is also an allegory for time consuming everything in the Universe.
 
Thank you for the in-depth approach. In a similar manner, the metaphor of Zeus fighting Cronus is not literal, but rather symbolises Zeus embracing order within the Universe.

Cronus is etymologically related to the word "Chronos" (Χρόνος), meaning "Time". Zeus fighting Cronus means that he opposed the pointless passing of time, so he gave form to everything in the Universe.

Cronus eating his children is also an allegory for time consuming everything in the Universe.
Since Saturn rules death and suffering just for the sake of it , if it were only for this planet or I mean the concept itself to exist only , without Jupiter, then yes, nearly all if not 99% would be suffering for the sake of it , because it would be all that there is.

Jupiter [Zeus] rules 'good timing' - 'belief' and many other things , it is the one who gives meaning not just life same as the Sun in itself but yes , I understand when it comes to the darkness and light and both are necessary.

For instance , some allegories and mythologies and other things I also have took them into a consideration as the 'inner' and 'outer' problems one has to face before it becomes a God.

Example , Saturn rules over responsibilities and resources and other many things , for instance , in comparation to other 'authorities' from the Planets , Saturn rules by giving you an obligation , something such as you can't refuse in order to keep surviving , in a relationship with a complex Father figure , this is painful but it will make you more prepared and stronger when you're going out there in the real world and of this I know with all of my soul.

Another example , If I would keep asking Satan to help me make peace with my Father always like magick in an instant then I would not figure out that I have problems myself , meaning that I am not perfect neither and I might have done something to piss my father off , by the end of the day no parent in reality wants their children to ever suffer.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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