Repeating the same thing since ages, or since the very beginning

All the Pagan religions of the past were part of one religion.

The religious that followed like judaism, christianity and islam are corruptions of that.

Zevism isn’t new at all. It goes back to the start of civilisation. The names and roles sometimes change, but the core template of Pagan/Zevist religion is the oldest and at one point the only existing one. The rest are all parodies of Zevism/Paganism or nonsense from the last few centuries .

I’ve written on this before if you’re interested:

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/a-response-to-the-rightful-atheist-claim-of-why-hasnt-god-revealed-himself-to-every-culture-he-has.302442/

Zoliar∞ wrote:View source

You keep moving in the same circle, reproducing what has been done for ages. You’ve created a new belief system, but at its core it offers nothing that hasn’t existed before—especially in a time built on free thought and the pursuit of knowledge. You’re reviving gods once worshiped by others, as if you’re completing an old loop instead of opening a new horizon.

You criticize Judaism and Christianity, yet their followers are just as capable of thinking and questioning, and they have the same right to examine their beliefs the way you examine yours. What you call “Zeusism” isn’t a new idea in itself, but rather a mental approach to handling emotions and thought, and anyone can develop that skill.

And you say other religions were created by extraterrestrial beings. Fine—let’s assume that’s true. But how can you be sure that your own belief system isn’t also the product of other beings? How can you claim with certainty that “Zeus”—or any being you reintroduce—is a true deity and not just an impersonation, the same way you accuse other religions of being fabricated? Adding a few scientific notions doesn’t grant any belief absolute truth. Meditation is a human practice available to everyone.

I’m not asking these questions as an opponent; I’m asking as someone seeking understanding. I don’t want to believe in something whose roots I don’t know. What I’ve liked most about you is your openness, and I hope your response will reflect that openness. I’m here to learn, not to confront. And if I see what proves the truth, I won’t oppose it.

You should also read the Grand Ritual of Zeus in tozrituals.org so you can understand what I mean.

One God, such as Zeus but also others such as Astarte can go by many names in different cultures.

Sometimes many Gods in the same culture can be different names for the same God.

Diana, Athena and Aphrodite are all Astarte or different aspects/energies of Her.

Zeus/Poseidon/Hades are all different aspects of Zeus. Baal and El in Canaan as well. Marduk, Enlil and Enki in Sumeria/Babylon. Odin and Thor in the Norse culture. There are esoteric reasons for this but it is all the same Religion.

You will not likely get it with rationalization alone, not all the way anyway. A healthy amount of curiosity can be used to practice the various meditations. That would be the launch pad, not rationalizing this or that about Zevism, although it can help sometimes.

Nothing new here :
Zevism, Zevism, Paganism... exist for millennia. Judaism started as a pseudo spiritual movement to destroy them, and yhwh talk like a sociopath.

Else, meditation is something you have to practice to understand, no intellectual prove can be provided about their efficiency.
Please note that intellectual demonstration of the unknown without any teaching techniques is unique to Christianity and Islam.

Make efforts to understand, no "belief" here.

To be blunt, you are proof that Zevism is needed because even people who are level headed and respected in an objective manner but aren't Zevists always expose where their mind is limited and if we were anything less we would just find it comedic and laugh at these people with how obvious it is to us while you can't see what's blatant. Instead we offer what no other place offers. Tools to break these limits.

How do you not understand that we are bringing back the tools to humanity they once had but in a more universal sense. It's like you're almost there but your mind didn't have the cognitive ability to connect the final dots.

So, do you see where the dangerous limit is in christians and muslims? They can't get past a point in wisdom without the help of the Gods. Even Zevists who don't engage in the forums AND don't do God rituals expose their limits. Some have a reason that is legitimate not to write on here but still do the rituals and study. Although I'd argue that not having some type of conversations with other Zevists slows down there progress.

If you don't understand the above then why don't you practice Zevism is see it for yourself instead of bringing up temporal concerns that, yes, at your level seems logical to bring up, but the best teacher everyone will tell you is you putting in the work.

So, lastly, seeing that you are a new member, have you started a daily meditation rotuine?

How about Rituals?

Make sure to do the Gods' rituals and take time to clear your mind after the ritual as this is an effective way to get close to Them.

Do all these and come back in 6 months if youre consistent and dont have any unhealthy habits. If you do have unhealthy habits then don't be surprised if it takes longer for your mind to knock down walls.

You will see there is no comparison to our top members with ANY abrahamic supporting scholar. Even those here who are at the active level have surpassed any of the latter if they were to go toe to toe in a battle of wits and wisdom.

Call it sophist, but only ignorance is what will give this opinion. We don't see it as such because we know even the best of christian Gentiles can and will become way better with Our practices here.

Yes our religion were created by extraterrestrials as well, to be completely open as you wanted. This is what was known in ancient times: The Gods came here to create Humanity and some of them remained here with us in the Golden Age. This is literal, extraterrestrial Gods walked on Earth in the previous Golden age (The age of Aquarius that we are currently entering right now astrologically, we are here to bring forth this Golden Age again). We have many Human-like civilizations in the universe, many that are perfect and a Godly civilization similar to our core Highest Gods (each of them have their own planets) and many like us or worse. So yes. Ours is a cosmic religion from the Gods we have worshiped since we came to be, or came here to this planet. To whom we belong, our creators literally.

The enemy invasion and creation of the enemy programs were made possible by the Age of Kali, which is naturally an age of darkness, ignorance, and degradation. Ancient people knew this as well, from the Vedas to Ancient Greece. This is the age we are leaving behind right now.
Here is an excerpt from the Bhagavata Purana (I highly advise to read it to everyone):

This is from Bhagavata Purana
About Kali-Yuga
The Symptoms of Kali-yuga
Text 2: In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered the sign of a man’s good birth, proper behavior and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of one’s power.
Text 3: Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to one’s expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brāhmaṇa just by his wearing a thread.
Text 4: A person’s spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on that same basis people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A person’s propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar.
Text 5: A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath.
Text 6: A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on one’s hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.
Text 7: As the earth thus becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power.
Text 8: Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests.
Text 9: Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined.
Text 10: The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety.
Text 11: The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years.
Texts 12-16: By the time the Age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varṇāśrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of śūdras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf śamī trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.
Text 17: Lord Viṣṇu — the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master of all moving and nonmoving living beings, and the Supreme Soul of all — takes birth to protect the principles of religion and to relieve His saintly devotees from the reactions of material work.
Texts 19-20: Lord Kalki, the Lord of the universe, will mount His swift horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill by the millions those thieves who have dared dress as kings.
Text 21: After all the impostor kings have been killed, the residents of the cities and towns will feel the breezes carrying the most sacred fragrance of the sandalwood paste and other decorations of Lord Vāsudeva, and their minds will thereby become transcendentally pure.
Text 22: When Lord Vāsudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, appears in their hearts in His transcendental form of goodness, the remaining citizens will abundantly repopulate the earth.
Text 23: When the Supreme Lord has appeared on earth as Kalki, the maintainer of religion, Satya-yuga will begin, and human society will bring forth progeny in the mode of goodness.
Text 34: After the one thousand celestial years of Kali-yuga, the Satya-yuga will manifest again. At that time the minds of all men will become self-effulgent.
Text 38: At the end of the Age of Kali, these two kings, having received instruction directly from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Vāsudeva, will return to human society and reestablish the eternal religion of man, characterized by the divisions of varṇa and āśrama, just as it was before.
Text 39: The cycle of four ages — Satya, Tretā, Dvāpara and Kali — continues perpetually among living beings on this earth, repeating the same general sequence of events.
Text 41: Even though a person’s body may now have the designation “king,” in the end its name will be “worms,” “stool” or “ashes.” What can a person who injures other living beings for the sake of his body know about his own self-interest, since his activities are simply leading him to hell?

You can see it's basically a perfect description of the past 2000 years.
The Abrahamics stripped out all religious depth and metaphysical, theological understanding from people, We have understood back then the whys, while Abrhamics still believed the Earth is flat 1000 years later, nor they understand or know anything about their God or how anything works. Here we can also astral project and visit the "underworld", for example, or the Gods can show us anything past a level of advancement. Even the past and the future. Besides us, only a very few Eastern people know some higher knowledge or on a higher advancement, still very inferior to what we know, or can be achieved here.

Zevism is the current manifesto of the Gods, and that's about it.

hailourtruegod wrote:View source

بصراحة، أنتَ دليلٌ على ضرورة الزِيفية، فحتى من يتحلون بالعقلانية ويحظون بالاحترام بموضوعية، لكنهم ليسوا زِيفيين، يكشفون دائمًا حدود عقولهم، ولو كنا أقل من ذلك، لوجدنا الأمر مُضحكًا وسخرنا من هؤلاء الناس، نظرًا لوضوحه الواضح لنا، بينما أنتم لا ترون ما هو جليّ. بدلًا من ذلك، نقدم ما لا يقدمه أي مكان آخر: أدوات لكسر هذه الحدود.

كيف لا تفهم أننا نعيد للبشرية الأدوات التي كانت بحوزتها سابقًا، ولكن بمعنى أكثر شمولية؟ كأنك على وشك الوصول، لكن عقلك لم يمتلك القدرة المعرفية الكافية لربط النقاط النهائية.

إذن، هل ترون أين يكمن حدّ الخطر لدى المسيحيين والمسلمين؟ لا يمكنهم تجاوز نقطة في الحكمة دون عون الله. حتى الزيفيون الذين لا يشاركون في المنتديات ولا يؤدون طقوسًا إلهية يكشفون حدودهم. لدى البعض سببٌ مشروع لعدم الكتابة هنا، لكنهم مع ذلك يؤدون الطقوس ويدرسون. مع أنني أزعم أن عدم إجراء أي نوع من الحوار مع الزيفيين الآخرين يُبطئ تقدمهم.

إذا كنت لا تفهم ما ورد أعلاه، فلماذا لا تمارس الزفيسم وترى ذلك بنفسك بدلاً من إثارة المخاوف الزمنية التي، نعم، على مستواك يبدو من المنطقي إثارتها، ولكن أفضل معلم سيخبرك به الجميع هو أنك تقوم بالعمل.

وأخيرًا، بما أنك عضو جديد، هل بدأت روتينًا يوميًا للتأمل؟

ماذا عن Rituals؟

تأكد من القيام بطقوس الآلهة وخذ وقتًا لتصفية ذهنك بعد الطقوس لأن هذه طريقة فعالة للتقرب منهم.

نفّذ كل هذه الخطوات، ثم عُد بعد ستة أشهر إذا كنتَ مُثابرًا ولا تُمارس أي عادات غير صحية. إذا كانت لديك عادات غير صحية، فلا تتفاجأ إذا استغرق عقلك وقتًا أطول في هدم الحواجز.

سترون أنه لا مجال للمقارنة بين أفضل أعضائنا وأي عالم مؤيد للإبراهيمية. حتى من هم في المستوى النشط هنا قد تفوقوا على أيٍّ منهم لو تنافسوا وجهاً لوجه في معركة ذكاء وحكمة.

سمِّها سفسطائية، لكن الجهل وحده هو ما يُعطي هذا الرأي. لا نعتبره كذلك لأننا نعلم أن حتى أفضل الأمم المسيحية يمكن أن يتحسنوا، وسيتحسنون، بممارساتنا هنا.

ربما تتطلب بعض الأمور خبرة لفهمها، ولكن أود أن أوضح أن المسيحيين والمسلمين واليهود يستطيعون ممارسة التأمل هنا دون تغيير دينهم، أليس كذلك؟ أم أن ممارستها ستؤدي بالضرورة إلى تغيير معتقداتهم؟

Ælberiigor wrote:View source

لا جديد هنا :
الزِّيفية، والشيطانية، والوثنية... موجودة منذ آلاف السنين. بدأت اليهودية كحركة روحية زائفة للقضاء عليها، ويتحدث يهوه كشخصٍ مُختلٍّ اجتماعيًا.

وإلا فإن التأمل هو شيء يجب عليك ممارسته لفهمه، ولا يمكن تقديم أي دليل فكري حول فعاليته.
تجدر الإشارة إلى أن الإظهار الفكري للمجهول دون أي تقنيات تعليمية هو أمر فريد من نوعه في المسيحية والإسلام.

اجتهد في الفهم، فلا يوجد "إيمان" هنا.

شكراً لردك. أفهم قصدك بأن بعض الأمور لا تُفهم إلا بالتجربة - وهذا أمرٌ مررتُ به شخصياً. هناك أمورٌ لا يُمكن وصفها بالكلمات، وإن وُجدت، تفقد معناها الحقيقي.
أنا أحاول فقط أن أفهم من منظور عقلاني أيضًا، لأنني أرى أن التجربة والتأمل يكملان بعضهما البعض.
شكرا مرة أخرى على التوضيح.

Even with all my personal short comings, I can be sure Zeus is real because he put his euphoric energy on me several times when I was new. You can't intellectualize what should be experienced with you own soul. This path is for walking not for empty talking. I wish I had realized that a long time ago.

Acolyte Of Pan 666 wrote:View source

All the Pagan religions of the past were part of one religion.

The religious that followed like judaism, christianity and islam are corruptions of that.

Zevism isn’t new at all. It goes back to the start of civilisation. The names and roles sometimes change, but the core template of Pagan/Zevist religion is the oldest and at one point the only existing one. The rest are all parodies of Zevism/Paganism or nonsense from the last few centuries .

I’ve written on this before if you’re interested:

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/a-response-to-the-rightful-atheist-claim-of-why-hasnt-god-revealed-himself-to-every-culture-he-has.302442/

What you mentioned reminds me of something I read in The Convoluted Universe by Dolores Cannon. She described almost the same idea, but she said that those who came down weren’t gods—they were advanced beings from beyond Earth who wanted to grant humans knowledge. That’s because human consciousness affects the consciousness of those beings, and they in turn want to elevate human awareness so they can also raise their own to a higher level.

These beings were not deities, but simply more evolved. Some of them, when they entered Earth, were influenced by its nature to the point where emotions like pride and the desire for control emerged. Because of that, some of them went back to where they came from, while others stayed and were affected by this earthly nature, feeling they had authority over beings with lower consciousness. Humans ended up believing in them as gods because they were astonished by the knowledge and abilities those beings possessed.

Henu the Great wrote:View source

You will not likely get it with rationalization alone, not all the way anyway. A healthy amount of curiosity can be used to practice the various meditations. That would be the launch pad, not rationalizing this or that about Zevism, although it can help sometimes.

“Alright, I’d like to get started. What’s the first step you recommend?”

Hierophant wrote:View source

Even with all my personal short comings, I can be sure Zeus is real because he put his euphoric energy on me several times when I was new. You can't intellectualize what should be experienced with you own soul. This path is for walking not for empty talking. I wish I had realized that a long time ago.

Can you tell me what you tried or what you started with first?

I really just want to clarify a blatant misconception in your post: that we'd claim to have created anything "new" here, religiously.

Everywhere in our websites you can see we're entirely about bringing BACK the worship of the Gods of Old, literally the opposite of "new".
We consider the abrahamic death cults such as christianity etc. to be new, certainly not our faith.

You need only read the very first lines of text in our Welcome PageExternal ↗:

You are now in the spiritual house of Ancient Wisdom and spirituality, on the verge of embarking on the original religion of mankind.

In the Temple of Zeus, we follow the Ancient faith that encompasses all Ancient religions. We disapprove of and reject the religious programs created in falsehood, namely Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

As you can see, we're all about the old ways.

There are a few more misconceptions in your post, but I feel the others have already answered enough for now.

Zoliar∞ wrote:View source

You keep moving in the same circle, reproducing what has been done for ages. You’ve created a new belief system, but at its core it offers nothing that hasn’t existed before—especially in a time built on free thought and the pursuit of knowledge. You’re reviving gods once worshiped by others, as if you’re completing an old loop instead of opening a new horizon.

You criticize Judaism and Christianity, yet their followers are just as capable of thinking and questioning, and they have the same right to examine their beliefs the way you examine yours. What you call “Zeusism” isn’t a new idea in itself, but rather a mental approach to handling emotions and thought, and anyone can develop that skill.

And you say other religions were created by extraterrestrial beings. Fine—let’s assume that’s true. But how can you be sure that your own belief system isn’t also the product of other beings? How can you claim with certainty that “Zeus”—or any being you reintroduce—is a true deity and not just an impersonation, the same way you accuse other religions of being fabricated? Adding a few scientific notions doesn’t grant any belief absolute truth. Meditation is a human practice available to everyone.

I’m not asking these questions as an opponent; I’m asking as someone seeking understanding. I don’t want to believe in something whose roots I don’t know. What I’ve liked most about you is your openness, and I hope your response will reflect that openness. I’m here to learn, not to confront. And if I see what proves the truth, I won’t oppose it.

And who created these beings

Zoliar∞ wrote:View source

And who created these beings

As far I understood, Zeus is the creator of the Gods and mankinds - there is several on several planets.
"Super being" are human-like but raised their kundalini, so their rank in the evolution is demon, half god or god and are not physically dead yet.

Some stories talk about people living several centuries, how these people could stop the aging process ?

Meditation brings proof, intellectual prevarication brings doubt.

Zoliar∞ wrote:

I see that what you call “Zeusism” is actually impressive, and it seems that everyone benefits from it. I have no issue with any of that. My only problem is with the gods you believe in—who are they, who created them, and why are there so many of them? If there are many, then calling them “gods” doesn’t really make sense. Maybe it would be more accurate to call them advanced beings with greater knowledge than we have.
I’m here because I want to understand who created everything, or something along those lines.

There are many cause there are many, we dont get to choose this lol. The origin of the first Gods is something that wont compute. There was a post that explained it, but it made my brain fry. Some were human beings. Some the sons of other Gods. It is not just knowledge, it is a lot of qualities they possess that we, in this form, do not. An "advanced being" would be, to me, someone who is half stage in becoming a God. But the HPs know better to judge one's rank.

If you want to understand, you need to act.

Compare it to having theoretical knowledge - easy to get in our times - but having no experience and refusing to apply theory to practice.

Also, it's not "Zeusism" but "Zevism" - study the pages; some people come here and do all their mental gymnastics only to be disappointed that we didn't do their job. Be better than them.

Yes, I agree with you, and I admit that I am one of the people who don’t apply what they learn — but I started today, and I hope I continue without stopping. And I know that it’s spelled Zevism; it was just a typing mistake

616Taysha wrote:View source

If you want to understand, you need to act.

Compare it to having theoretical knowledge - easy to get in our times - but having no experience and refusing to apply theory to practice.

Also, it's not "Zeusism" but "Zevism" - study the pages; some people come here and do all their mental gymnastics only to be disappointed that we didn't do their job. Be better than them.

Zoliar∞ wrote:View source

ربما تتطلب بعض الأمور خبرة لفهمها، ولكن أود أن أوضح أن المسيحيين والمسلمين واليهود يستطيعون ممارسة التأمل هنا دون تغيير دينهم، أليس كذلك؟ أم أن ممارستها ستؤدي بالضرورة إلى تغيير معتقداتهم؟

I am not translating this.