A response to the rightful Atheist claim of "Why hasn't God revealed himself to every culture?" HE HAS!

The majority of atheists were either raised Christians or Christianity is the only religion they know. Those who say "I hate religion" or "all religion is bad" have only known Christianity and they hate it. So they project Christianity into all other religions and hate them because of that projection.

The same with "god". The only god they know is the Abrahamic god and whenever they encounter people who follow other, non-Abrahamic gods they argue against them using the same arguments that they use against Christianity and the Abrahamic god.

That's why when they encounter Zevists or come into these forums they act defensively as if we are going to push our religion to them or ask them to have "faith". For example they make a post stating "I need evidence" and state that they are not going to believe without evidence or ask us or the Gods to do silly tricks as if we are trying to convert them or tell them they need "faith". Someone who is familiar with small,non-proselytizing religions understands that since these religions don't care about whether you convert or not, it all has to do with whether that specific path/religion resonates with you or not. If it doesn't or you think nothing happened to you if you tried it, you can just find another or stay an atheist, without making any fuss about it. So, their excessive reaction comes from projecting Christianity onto us.

And they argue against our Gods as if they are the Abrahamic god and ask typical things like "if the Gods are benevolent and all-powerful, why don't they magickally remove all evil in the world?"

For an atheist to truly start to learn about our Gods he needs to first leave all his Christian projections and biases behind and approach it as a new, unknown thing.

Starješina wrote:

And both keep the gentile nations away from the truth of their origins and their original Gods.

The poisons, Christianity and Islam, by slandering them and the atheist by denying them or lumping them together with the tyrannical sadist of the shitty Bible and Quran as if the true God, Zeus, is nothing different from that malicious entity and is "non-existent".

Though, from what I have seen, atheists in general tend to be less annoying than Cucktians and Islamists who push their beliefs on you and threaten you with something silly like the eternal suffering in hellfire.

Some atheists don't push their beliefs like a stupid abrahamic zombie. I can respect such individuals.
The problem that is holding any scientific credibility and produces skepticism is the clique of militant anti-theists like Richard Dawkins or Carolyn Porco among many others.
If the Universe is a product of NOTHING-ness and our lives are just miserable ant-like experiences, then why do we need to be reminded of this constantly just like christian/muzlim preachers say&do about eternal hellfire? By using their own logic, the whole movement is akin to a religion to some extent.

i'am 100% atheist,atheism not believe Gods,allah or others i'am only believe Ancestors. if creator all can be creator that's logic.

about eternal hellfire or heaven they just created and others see them then making likely novel and that's created book and their religion.

Blades wrote:View source

Some atheists don't push their beliefs like a stupid abrahamic zombie. I can respect such individuals.
The problem that is holding any scientific credibility and produces skepticism is the clique of militant anti-theists like Richard Dawkins or Carolyn Porco among many others.
If the Universe is a product of NOTHING-ness and our lives are just miserable ant-like experiences, then why do we need to be reminded of this constantly just like christian/muzlim preachers say&do about eternal hellfire? By using their own logic, the whole movement is akin to a religion to some extent.

Agreed. I know a person who is an atheist, and he is someone very intelligent who bashes the Abrahamic crap without pushing his beliefs on anyone. The guy is writer and very talented one at that. When it comes to people like him and many atheists, you at least do not have to worry about them erupting in rage if you disagree with them unlike the stupid Christians and Muslims, who channel their inner Borg once you pinpoint the stupidity in their religions.

When I left Cucktianity, the members of the church kept annoying me why I have been absent from the congregations, especially the slimy pastor of the church, who I discovered cheated a group of people out of their money for his "Faith without Borders" organization, which was listed under my countries "Black Watch" list where frauds are identified. He was probably the most annoying Abrahamic zombie (as you said) who kept messaging me on my phone until I blocked him and everyone from that stupid church. The idiots still think I am a Christian, and I am yet to tear both Bibles that I received from them, which reminded me that I need to shred them or just burn them.

Blades wrote:View source

The problem that is holding any scientific credibility and produces skepticism is the clique of militant anti-theists like Richard Dawkins or Carolyn Porco among many others.
If the Universe is a product of NOTHING-ness and our lives are just miserable ant-like experiences, then why do we need to be reminded of this constantly just like christian/muzlim preachers say&do about eternal hellfire? By using their own logic, the whole movement is akin to a religion to some extent.

I use to call those people "atheonazis" when I didn't know the truth about WW2 regime. Now I come to think about it, they are more like atheocommies or atheochristians. They were probably raised as fundamentalist christians so they discovered that Christianity is bullshit but they kept the same christian mentality and need to hold on to rigid beliefs and force them to everyone. There's basically no difference between them and the fundamentalist christians: the fundie christians think christianity is the only truth and all other religions are "Satanic" and they must push it to everyone even if they know about it. Atheocommies think Science™ is the only truth and everyone who deviates from it is a pseudoscientist, kook, woo, quack or any other fancy names they use to label them and they must "debunk" all of them and conver them to Science™ and Rationality™.

By the way, their idea of "science" is very religious. The true meaning of science is the scientific method, not a body of knowledge. If you think it's a body of knowledge then you're treating it as if it's a religion and you strive to "defend" it.

Moreover, since humans are fallible beings, true scientists who follow the scientific method recognize that any current theories are the best we have according to our current limited knowledge and understanding and they may be completely disproven tomorrow and that people who have different theories may be proven correct, so they refuse to judge them. However, those who treat it like a religion believe that science is infallible and cannot make mistakes and it is "settled" and cannot change. That's how Christians view their religion, not what science truly is.

Skyveryflat wrote:

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Are you a Zevist?

The Gods are as real as you and me. You can experience Them after a developing spiritually long enough.

@Acolyte Of Pan 666 As this individual claims, him/herself

Skyveryflat wrote:View source

i'am 100% atheist,atheism not believe Gods,allah or others i'am only believe Ancestors. if creator all can be creator that's logic.

Which begs the question, what is he/she doing here? "I don't belive in any gods, I know they are figments of your colective delusion" is the overall message I see from this individual.

Sky very flat, @Skyveryflat what do you mean Ancestors? Do you know that some of our ancestors got elevated to Godhood? Balaam for example. Do you know our ancestors practised spirituality, eg. rune magic?

But again, you don't doubt and do research - you just don't belive, which is simply... beliveing.

Acolyte Of Pan 666 wrote:View source

after a developing spiritually long enough

Yet, this individual would have to drop the reverse christian percepion in order to comprehend this.

As for someone who joined about two years ago, this person is... well, seems quite stuck in their reverse christian ways.

616Taysha wrote:View source

@Acolyte Of Pan 666 As this individual claims, him/herself

Which begs the question, what is he/she doing here? "I don't belive in any gods, I know they are figments of your colective delusion" is the overall message I see from this individual.

Sky very flat, @Skyveryflat what do you mean Ancestors? Do you know that some of our ancestors got elevated to Godhood? Balaam for example. Do you know our ancestors practised spirituality, eg. rune magic?

But again, you don't doubt and do research - you just don't belive, which is simply... beliveing.

Yet, this individual would have to drop the reverse christian percepion in order to comprehend this.

As for someone who joined about two years ago, this person is... well, seems quite stuck in their reverse christian ways.

Don't antagonise non-Zevists, please.

All are welcome to ask questions and learn more about our Religion and why it's true, as long as they're not being disrespectful.

I first came into this forum as a non-Zevist myself.

I made this post specifically for athiests. I do welcome atheists and other non-Zevists to make accounts here and ask questions. I and other members will be more than happy to answer.

@Acolyte Of Pan 666 A fair point, to be sure.

Oh, believe me, I wasn't any different - but the "I doubt so I am" has stayed with me forever.

I ask questions and I seek answers, not rejecting anything 'just because it sounds bad' - unless I know it does.

Yet it is my hope that the person will reflect on his/her way of mental processing and sees more than "just Ancestors"

Skyveryflat wrote:

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You could do a ritual for the ancestors in the tozrituals page. They'll connect with you.

Following our Gods is the most ancestral thing one could do.

https://tozrituals.org/ritual/heroes/ritual-of-the-great-ancestors.htmlExternal ↗

616Taysha wrote:View source

Yet, this individual would have to drop the reverse christian percepion in order to comprehend this.

As for someone who joined about two years ago, this person is... well, seems quite stuck in their reverse christian ways.

I highly doubt that he has anything to do with christianity or he came from it because from his description he seems Chinese or from another East Asian country. That's what most Chinese do, they don't believe in any Gods but they venerate their ancestors and follow certain philosophies like Confucianism, Taoism e.t.c.

But they are completely different from a typical western atheist. They don't have the reactive mindset of a Western atheist that I explained above.

ya ya ya i'am was Zevist so i'am was apologies

words Gods and Goddess first time from christian,catholics,orthodox,church

616Taysha wrote:View source

@Acolyte Of Pan 666 As this individual claims, him/herself

Which begs the question, what is he/she doing here? "I don't belive in any gods, I know they are figments of your colective delusion" is the overall message I see from this individual.

Sky very flat, @Skyveryflat what do you mean Ancestors? Do you know that some of our ancestors got elevated to Godhood? Balaam for example. Do you know our ancestors practised spirituality, eg. rune magic?

But again, you don't doubt and do research - you just don't belive, which is simply... beliveing.

Yet, this individual would have to drop the reverse christian percepion in order to comprehend this.

As for someone who joined about two years ago, this person is... well, seems quite stuck in their reverse christian ways.

believing,faith concept from christian
godhood words from christian
spirituality is simple how making a connection higher dimensions. eg,rune magic= u know about 5 element like ether and the ether can be seen and unseen what was different mass particle and magic is ethereal energy what's not unseen. and the rune that was simbol and rune magic u know concpetion was from void then imagination like colour then colour becoming picture then from picture becoming drawing then becoming simbol,sigil,numeric,alphabet and anything else and then magic was from seen and unseen ether,if unseen ether that's like kuantum atom can't see and more small,thin and transparanc, then using rune magic like using with mind u drawing that rune and input the energy as the ether to rune or using u're mind to u're body and making like incantations then put energy to that rune. and researching as ether was many in reality, maybe i only know first was england 2nd in germany 3rd in russia with experimental of ether body maybe this like soul of body.
so rituals for ancestors. grand ritual zeus with the words devil is divine ability to perceive to think~ , gods ritual like seshat ritual's, thoth rituals, understanding of duat/duaat.and then checking in reality knowledge was information from ancestors or from gods (gods or goddess word from christian) finding in reality knowledge for can be 1:1 not 1:10000 not 10000:1 yeaa maybe u're IQ was high more than me was under 10 so need analyze,slowest memory progressing in brain, and checking in reality.