Regarding Cheating, Relationships

Lydia [JG wrote:

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Something else to keep in mind: just because you are with someone, does not mean they are your soulmate.

Wise words, Lydia :)

I agree, though I think punishment depends on the intent [some people do cheat to torture and abuse others mentally, it can be VERY deliberate and calculating], but killing is way over the top. You can simply punish people in a way that is embarrassing or humiliating, it doesn't have to involve death.

Many come to AskSatan with very immature ideations of love, thinking a superficial relationship that doesn't really seem all that in my estimation, or one that hasn't even BEGUN and almost seems stalkerish, is 'true love'. Please be realistic. Inhale earth element or practice Void before you go away with the fairies.

But one also has to recognize that some people are very, very Scorpionic or Taurean people, NOT detached and they can't be expected to react 'rationally' to cheating either. Capricorn-heavy people (especially in Venus or Mars) will typically react very violently if you cheat on them or abuse them, or even if you ignore them when they've invested their energy in 'choosing' you. Others like Leo or Sagittarius-infused people will react with boiling fury if you embarrass them in front of others.

The above can also be dangerous in terms of behaviors like cheating on you because they're obsessed with controlling you, then reacting violently when you cheat back to spite them. Or, the more usual case, even making up things in their heads that you're cheating when they are the cheating one. If you watch any crappy talk show like jerry springer with 'lie detectors', paternity testing, you will note MANY couples fall into this trap. This tit-for-tat thing is dangerous and can be deadly.

If you are a heavy air or cardinal fire type of person prone to 'it's just a little crushExternal ↗' type thinking, do not get involved with people whose life motto is "love it to death".

Another thing is, people really should look at their Past Lives when it comes to relationships and try to get as good at trance as possible. Past lives and affirmations to someone else like "I love only you forever" especially during orgasm or trance can inhibit our relationships in this one by causing breakups, delusions, cheating, errors, or feeling inadequacy. This is very important before deciding to cut links and things of this sort. Even if you said these things to someone you didn't actually love in those lifetimes, this can still cause problems.

On the other hand you may find a partner in your past lives who REALLY is your soul mate in the truest sense of the word. From there you can decide what to do, whether to cut ties or to wait for answers from the Gods, if they have incarnated 'out there', it may even be possible to reunite (depending on age, country, etc.)

Another thing to be aware of is that some signs like Aries and Aquarius in the love planets are really characterized by push-pull behaviors. Unless they have an abundance of water elsewhere (like say, Moon in Cancer in 8th) or something, you can't expect them to fawn over you if you are too nice to them, you wait on them hand and foot, or you are too static, stuck in the same routine, always having the same appearance, etc. They WILL look elsewhere.

So to some extent, you have to 'keep them keen, treat them mean' and be quite dynamic to maintain their interest. For the anime fans here, that means being somewhat tsundere I guess :shock:

If you can't maintain this type of thing and it really isn't you, I would look elsewhere. And obviously, this routine can be fun, but when someone is pregnant or sick, it can become exhausting to even maintain. Just know what you are in for.

Killing is way over the top. But if there is no verbal agreement and you have been cheated on ,then a revenge spell if the person chooses to ,is justified. Ignorance is not the excuse to hurt others. They need to be punished for misdeeds. If someone cheats on me (and thankfully it hasn't happened yet) ,there will be hell to pay. I can guarantee that.

Even in a relationship with another Zevist the same can happen if the two are not sufficiently advanced and have not freed themselves from hangings and blockages, also if they are incompatible.

I was with a woman who had convinced me that we were soul mates. We were together for 6 years. We were both Zevism and she even had an account here on this forum. She claimed she was a witch in her past life and that we were together in our past lives.

Last year, she began blindsiding me and when I confronted her, she admitted to cheating on me with a (now former) friend of mine. Needless to say, I was in a lot of pain after such a revelation. Hypergamy runs rife through society.
6 years of my life wasted on someone who never truly loved me.

It hurts.

Yurei wrote:

I was with a woman who had convinced me that we were soul mates. We were together for 6 years. We were both Zevism and she even had an account here on this forum. She claimed she was a witch in her past life and that we were together in our past lives.

Last year, she began blindsiding me and when I confronted her, she admitted to cheating on me with a (now former) friend of mine. Needless to say, I was in a lot of pain after such a revelation. Hypergamy runs rife through society.
6 years of my life wasted on someone who never truly loved me.

It hurts.

My case was the same as yours, the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.
And the most ridiculous, the guy with she cheated me it turned out to be an infiltrator and in the end she ran out without anyone and also left the forums.

Wotanwarrior wrote:

Yurei wrote:

I was with a woman who had convinced me that we were soul mates. We were together for 6 years. We were both Zevism and she even had an account here on this forum. She claimed she was a witch in her past life and that we were together in our past lives.

Last year, she began blindsiding me and when I confronted her, she admitted to cheating on me with a (now former) friend of mine. Needless to say, I was in a lot of pain after such a revelation. Hypergamy runs rife through society.
6 years of my life wasted on someone who never truly loved me.

It hurts.

My case was the same as yours, the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.
And the most ridiculous, the guy with she cheated me it turned out to be an infiltrator and in the end she ran out without anyone and also left the forums.

Oh no... why do I feel I might know (used to know) these Zevism you speak of lmao.

I wish you two the best of luck in finding a good partner for yourselves. Move on and cut any ties. People like that are a waste of time even to be mad at. Best revenge is to forget about them like they never even existed in your life but take what you learned and grow.

Even Zevists who aren't as advanced are still subject to do these type of toxic acts. Hopefully for their own sake they grow or they'll see later in life that all this karma will catch up to them down the line.

Aquarius wrote:

Wotanwarrior wrote:

the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.

I can't even fathom how you would get into a relationship with a person you never even met in real life. This must be a joke, if it's not I'm sorry but that was a retarded decision.

I have always known that I have a soulmate of past lives, some things to which one is predestined appear in your natal chart and also now it have confirmed to me, the only thing that person was not.
And I am not willing to waste my time kissing andrapod frogs to see if any transforms into a dedicated Zevism, that for me is much more absurd.

Lydia [JG wrote:

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I’ve seen some bizarre advice here, about trying to “spiritually kill” a person who cheated on them. This is just sick.

Most people are very low spiritually. Most people now, are programmed by tv, give into peer pressure instead of listening to their inner voice, don’t even know themselves, and DO NOT understand higher concepts such as loyalty, fidelity, etc. These are Godly concepts, whereas many people today are certainly not Godly. Most people are on a low level, give in to random impulses, and so on.

You cannot expect spiritually low people to have high virtues and ethics.

As well, many people had christianity forced on them, so they think they need to be monogamous out of “christian commandments”. The world is becoming less christian, so they are reacting against it, and doing whatever they want without realizing what harm they may cause, or not even caring about causing harm, because they are unable to have empathy or understanding.

Further, not everyone is emotional regarding relationships. Some people have a higher concept of love, not everyone does. To some people, they get horny, so they find someone to have sex with, no biggie. That’s their mindset. It’s nothing personal against you, it’s just how they are.

If you’re in a relationship with someone and they cheat on you, understand they are not able to comprehend higher love and devotion, and move on. Remove links to them, detach, heal, find someone more suited for you when the time is right. Getting hurt is a part of life. Pretty much everyone in all of history has been hurt at least once. Learn lessons and move forward with your life.

Something else to keep in mind: just because you are with someone, does not mean they are your soulmate. One member here wrote that being with someone for 1.5 years meant it was true love. This is delusional. Many people stay with someone out of stability, or because they are too afraid to be alone, or for a regular sex life, or because they are settled into their life with their partner.

Everyone in the world is still advancing, don’t expect those who are without to be wise. People need to live many lifetimes to grow and learn and evolve, before you can expect great things from them.

while spiritually killing someone is way overboard but still people who cheat others deserve to be punished ..while it is true that they are in lower vibration but that does NOT give them a free pass to continue manipulating and using and throwing someone who trusted them in a garbage bin,, Every human no matter the level of consciousness still knows cheating is a very evil thing ..Atleast before using someone they could say that clearly that they are just looking for temporarily hook ups and not at all serious ..Using and throwing someone is NEVER a forgivable offence ..We are NOT idiotic christians who say "forgive them because it is not them doing this but demons inside them doing this" .I believe justice and very brutal punishment must be meted out to such people(NOT like death though) but still harsh punishments like accident,serious diseases ..Justice is the core of zevism ..People who do evil to others do NOT do it unknowingly no matter what ..Such people are no lesser than criminals .They must be paid back 10 fold

Wotanwarrior wrote:

Aquarius wrote:

Wotanwarrior wrote:

the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.

I can't even fathom how you would get into a relationship with a person you never even met in real life. This must be a joke, if it's not I'm sorry but that was a retarded decision.

I have always known that I have a soulmate of past lives, some things to which one is predestined appear in your natal chart and also now it have confirmed to me, the only thing that person was not.
And I am not willing to waste my time kissing andrapod frogs to see if any transforms into a dedicated Zevism, that for me is much more absurd.

How are you gonna find your soulmates if you don't go out and experience life? You think she will fall from the sky?

Wotanwarrior wrote:

Aquarius wrote:

Wotanwarrior wrote:

the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.

I can't even fathom how you would get into a relationship with a person you never even met in real life. This must be a joke, if it's not I'm sorry but that was a retarded decision.

I have always known that I have a soulmate of past lives, some things to which one is predestined appear in your natal chart and also now it have confirmed to me, the only thing that person was not.
And I am not willing to waste my time kissing andrapod frogs to see if any transforms into a dedicated Zevism, that for me is much more absurd.

Also keep in mind your soulmate can be Non-Zevism. This has happened, nothing wrong with it, as long as it's a good and genuine person who wants to grow it's not a bad relationship.

PinOcchio wrote:

It's not like everyone who isn't a Zevism is an andrapod, there are many individuals that are very advanced in many respects who are not Zevism.

Actually yes, when you become initiated in the path of Satan then you are no longer andrapoda, but as long as you are not then you remain andrapoda.

There are better, intelligent and wonderful people even among andrapods.

Aquarius wrote:

Wotanwarrior wrote:

Aquarius wrote:

I can't even fathom how you would get into a relationship with a person you never even met in real life. This must be a joke, if it's not I'm sorry but that was a retarded decision.

I have always known that I have a soulmate of past lives, some things to which one is predestined appear in your natal chart and also now it have confirmed to me, the only thing that person was not.
And I am not willing to waste my time kissing andrapod frogs to see if any transforms into a dedicated Zevism, that for me is much more absurd.

Also keep in mind your soulmate can be Non-Zevism. This has happened, nothing wrong with it, as long as it's a good and genuine person who wants to grow it's not a bad relationship.

Well, enjoy your unequal relationship with someone who will always be much lower than you, that's not for me.

Vira_ wrote:

Actually yes, when you become initiated in the path of Satan then you are no longer andrapoda, but as long as you are not then you remain andrapoda.

There are better, intelligent and wonderful people even among andrapods.

No, the term "andrapod" generally refers to low-level beings, which is obviously not the case with every non-Zevism.

Wotanwarrior wrote:

Yurei wrote:

I was with a woman who had convinced me that we were soul mates. We were together for 6 years. We were both Zevism and she even had an account here on this forum. She claimed she was a witch in her past life and that we were together in our past lives.

Last year, she began blindsiding me and when I confronted her, she admitted to cheating on me with a (now former) friend of mine. Needless to say, I was in a lot of pain after such a revelation. Hypergamy runs rife through society.
6 years of my life wasted on someone who never truly loved me.

It hurts.

My case was the same as yours, the only difference is that due to the distance of living in different countries we never get to know each other in person.
And the most ridiculous, the guy with she cheated me it turned out to be an infiltrator and in the end she ran out without anyone and also left the forums.

I'm sorry you had to go through that, brother.
I'm sure someday you'll meet someone who will treat you right. In addition, all this happened during the year right before my Saturn return. But you and I are stronger now, having lived and persevered through it all.

HAIL ZEUS!

This might sound kind of fucked up, but it is something I have been wondering about.

I wish to initially clarify that I do not intend to justify cheating/adultery at all, and am merely pondering upon the potential breach of ethic and moral code behind the following hypothetical situation.

What if an individual whom one is interested in, is in a relationship that they should not be in for their own good? For example with someone abusive, or of another race. And you make them cheat on that person, with you.

Let's say you're close with the individual, and they consult you regarding the emotional traumas they endure from their negative relationship, but due to the abuse and other restraining factors in their freedom, the individual is bound and cannot escape their tormentor's grasp. As such, they seek solace in their time with you, and begin to feel more of another side of that affection and trust in you, and... you do it.

Is this wrong, or did you save them by taking them away from their abuser?

OhNoItsMook wrote:

This might sound kind of fucked up, but it is something I have been wondering about.

I wish to initially clarify that I do not intend to justify cheating/adultery at all, and am merely pondering upon the potential breach of ethic and moral code behind the following hypothetical situation.

What if an individual whom one is interested in, is in a relationship that they should not be in for their own good? For example with someone abusive, or of another race. And you make them cheat on that person, with you.

Let's say you're close with the individual, and they consult you regarding the emotional traumas they endure from their negative relationship, but due to the abuse and other restraining factors in their freedom, the individual is bound and cannot escape their tormentor's grasp. As such, they seek solace in their time with you, and begin to feel more of another side of that affection and trust in you, and... you do it.

Is this wrong, or did you save them by taking them away from their abuser?

Without getting into a complicated ethical discussion of these gray areas, I think it is good that you are showing the individual that they have opportunities to escape, but they also need to learn to stand up to abuse. Although their abuser has violated the relationship from one side, a secondary abuse of that is not necessarily right either.

If the person cannot escape their tormentor beforehand, why would they be able to now? Except, now they have set themselves up for an attack by their abuser, if this sexual interaction becomes discovered. So you or they have now made them even more liable to become victimized, and the abuser may feel justified with their abuse, as a way to control the "cheating partner".

So it is not right for you to let your urges get the better of you. You should first help the person escape, as a platonic friend, rather than cheat with them. They need to escape and tell their abuser that the relationship is over. Then they can seek a separate relationship.

It is common for victims to fall into this trap, and it can create a bit of a karmic loop where they act in a secretive manner to avoid pain. Now that this person is potentially linked with you, they can still carry this same behavior, which is the result of their abuse, but still needs to be healed from.

Overall, it is sad, but two wrongs do not make a right. We should not put our reputation on the line, as this can be all we have sometimes. Reputation is one function of Saturn, which should be strong and unbending in the face of programs coming from the other parts of the soul, including emotional problems, even if it is sad. Two wrongs do not make a right; the person needs to be enduring and do their best to resolve the situation the right way.

Dahaarkan wrote:

If you get cheated on it's because you are a very poor judge of character, or are stubbornly staying in a relationship that you know won't work out and frankly this requires introspection and self-growth. This is very simple to understand especially in people who are under 40 or 50 and more sexually active if you cannot fully satisfy your partner sexually your relationship will fall apart and they will likely cheat on you.

A mature person will do the logical thing which is to simply end the relationship which is doomed to fall apart anyway instead of trying to ride it out until it ends badly. I've had relationships where I could not satisfy my partner's desires and also the opposite where my partner did not satisfy me. I always end relationships upon realizing this, because it's obvious how these will end. I've literally had a partner with whom I'd rather just jack off alone than have sex with them, so of course this relationship is never going to work, even if I deeply cared for them.

Sex is an important component of any relationship and when you're not fully sexually compatible it's not going to work out, period.

If you cannot satisfy your partner's desires, they are inclined to cheat on you with someone who can, and if your partner cannot satisfy you, you will likely have the urge to cheat on them when the opportunity arises.

In the other case in which a person cheats simply out of malice and to harm the other, this is honestly on you for getting into a relationship with someone of this caliber in the first place. It's important to filter the andrapod trash out of your life and especially important to not get into relationships with human excrement.

The excuse is always that they didn't know what their partner was truly like, well then it's simple don't get into a relationship with someone you don't truly know.

Stop being desperate for a relationship because it's better to be alone than in a bad or toxic relationship. I see so many people utterly miserable in shitty relationships just because they are afraid of being alone, and are too dependent on others emotionally or otherwise. Learn to be independent in every way, and don't force relationships with the wrong people.

I've never been cheated on throughout all my life because I don't allow andrapod trash into my life, and I respectfully end relationships when me and my partner discover that we don't fully satisfy each other, which is the most common cause of cheating. This isn't hard to do, unless you're desperate or a fool.

I think it is very important, in my opinion to consider taking an approach on trying to be in a relationship.

Even though some people don't deserve our attention, after trying and trying people can still live a happy life with their partners. A soul mate.