My Great Sacrifice and Legacy to the Temple. Repentance and my safe suicide with God's permission.

Suicide does not fundamentally resolve the internal causes of suffering. Read this for the whys: https://templeofzeus.org/life_ethics_death_slaying.phpExternal ↗

While you are alive, life should be honored, not because suffering is unimportant or because you should simply endure it without help, but because life provides the possibility of changing one’s condition.

Do not waste your life for some ‘grand finale’ of dollars being thrown around.

There's spiritual support available: the Gods Ritual, praying, and meditation and practical actions: seek mental health support and any medical treatments required, and seek help from your friends and family. It might be possible to alleviate whatever condition you have and continue living. The fact that you've found Zevism is proof of your capacity to improve.

I can't exactly stop you, but nothing truly changes upon suicide. You will be reborn, and face the same struggles eventually.

I don't know enough about your situation to say much else, other than an invitation to ask for help. From us, from the Gods, and from medical authorities, both mental and physical. Things may just turn out to not be as grim as they seem.

My dear father passed away few weeks ago, miserably, alone at "his" home, suddenly from pulmonary embolia. 😭 He had long time illnesses, although he was treated, he does not stop smoking and also the doctors rather neglected him and could not detect his possibly already present embolia in his lungs...as in third of such cases.

Me and my mom - who is also very sick and needs urgent treatment which would cost huge amount of money - could not even say goodbye to him. Me and my mom moved to the capital city many years ago, as I was studying at university but when my mom got sick I had to intermit my studies and I had to go to work. My father always supported us monthly, from my childhood when my parents separated. We regularly kept the contact and met during the years but recently I was unable to buy even a bus ticket to go to our hometown, to my dad where he lived and worked even after his retirement.

My mom and me wanted to take my father here to get better treatment after we would recieve some money from the selling of a little apart which mom inherited (50% ownership) 1.5 years ago after my late grandmother died. But my aunt (mom's sister) has been constantly impeding the selling in various ways. My aunt is a long term alcoholic and she has psychopathic tendencies. She was always sickly hostile towards my from their childhood... She wanted to buy my mom's part of the inherited apart but for much less money and through a gifting contract, which is not allowed by the law and punishable. A lawyer whom we asked told us to refuse this offer. My aunt wants to take revenge for this. She knows well our very poor life and that my mom needs urgent treatment, she knew that my father was very sick and that we wanted to get the money rightfully for my mom's part as soon as possible to try to help my father, she knows now that my father died but she did not even call us to say sorry...

If she cooperated in the selling months earlier - there were more than 20 possible buyers during 10 months, whom she refused to answer and whom she did not show the apart - then maybe my dad would be still alive. Also we could have moved from this little apart to rent another one, as our landlord wants to sell it. Also my mom could have been treated earlier...😭

Once she even wished my mom to die...

I am working at two places but it is not enough for us at all, especially recently in this sick financial and economical situation in our country...

I could write even more, I also would like to make a post anyways as I have some very important questions and I would like to get some help from anyone who has knowledge and can aswer on my questions... But as I saw your post suddenly I thought I would write my story here to you, and I would ask you would you want to exchange your life with mine if such a thing was possible??

I ALSO WANTED TO DIE ! But I decided not to! And I tell you that one of the reasons I do not want to die is the existence of this place and the existence of @High Priest Zevios Metathronos and his and the clergy's immense works and efforts.

Do not fucking throw your life! Even if it is miserable...at least until you tried everything you just can to change and save yourself...especially if you have TIME. For example me and my mom might have not too much time unfortunately as it seems our life, especially my mom's would need a "miracle", a fast intervention, we are constantly praying for with humbleness and hope, besides we try what little we just can...

If you're searching for advice to commit suicide, you've come to the wrong place. The Temple celebrates life. No "suicide ritual" is provided from the Temple.

Since you want to do a ritual to one of the Gods to "end your life" you could as well do one to improve your life. Some examples, Lady Renenutet ritual can be used for money, the Grand Ritual of Zeus to improve spiritually, and of course you just don't get the blessings from those rituals, but you honor the Gods behind them. Rituals are done for multiple days.

Do not throw "hundreds of dollars" to the Temple, invest them to improve your life: buy a web course to learn something new (coding, enterpreneurship, SMMA, digital marketing, or a course for a physical job), and later, you can donate to the Temple as a form of gratitude.

I've had suicidal thoughts for many years in my life. For whatever problem you have, suicide IS NOT the solution, trust me. It is not.

When the Gods created humanity, they put the capacity to feel pain in it, both physical and emotional. Why? Because they are evil? No, Because EVERYTHING serves a purpose. Have you ever tried to listen to your pain, to embrace your darkness and ask it its provenience? Every emotion is there to send you a message. The problem is not the pain, but the source of it. Have you ever tried to do some journaling, to write down everything on paper or on an electronic document? Most of the times, we live too much into our head, and all thoughts feel heavier than they actually are, trust me. Many years ago I was on the verge of madness, literally, and I just wrote down my feelings on a notebook. That's it, I felt so light after it. Maybe in your case, more or less work is needed, I don't know what is affecting you, but again SUICIDE IS NOT THE SOLUTION.

If you commit suicide, a few things will happen:

• You will simply escape from the pain that was so anxious to send you a message.

• The Gods will simply send you back on Earth. You'll meet the Gods measuring your soul, and they would surely see it's heavy, and will send you back. You're heavy, you need to figure out what is stopping you from being lighter and happy, but you need to figure it out HERE.

• You will waste another 20 years of your life, after your rebirth, before you come back to the Temple, probably with the same issues you were not brave enough to confront now.

And here's the hack: you don't want to kill yourself. You want to kill something inside you. Something that hurts, the merciless agony. You want to kill the pain, and I understand you, because I've been through that pain. While a physical problem can disappear with a pill, medication or better, with good nutrition and exercise, a mental illness never leaves you, never stops, you and I know. You confront the reasons behind the pain, and you'll be free and happy. You deserve to feel the cleanliness and the freedom of being a light soul.

Another hack is, whatever you feed your mind, it will just execute. All thoughts have the same value, the same importance. What does it mean? It means that a if you start being optimistic, to say that life is good, that you deserve to be happy, that there is a solution, even if it feels like you're lying, your mind goes along with you. Now, I understand it's a bit difficult, given your situation, but always remember, a step towards the light can be always taken. If you think you've reached the bottom, that's fantastic, as you can only go UP from there.

Fix your habits: read a book called "Atomic Habits" or watch a free Youtube video that talks about habits, how do they work and how to change them. Yes, habits extend to thought processes as well. The internet is FULL of videos from good, prepared people, and the average person now has way more knowledge and resources to learn and grow from the online environment, compared to a king of 200 years ago.

For every problem, there is always a solution. Be patient with yourself, meditate, ask help from the Gods, read, find a girlfriend, find a friend, talk with your family, have some exercise, take sunlight daily, breathe deeply and learn to know yourself. Whatever happened, is part of your past, you live in the eternal present. Solutions are the shadows of problems.

You don't need anybody's permission for this, however before you do anything, I recommend you study your chart to see why you're dealing with what you're dealing with. This is mainly for you to gain knowledge on the matter.

Every thought, emotion and action adds energy to things. Suicide will just add more negative energy to all this so in your next life everything will just be worse.

What you're really looking for is an end to suffering. If that's your goal, then suicide will be counter-productive as you're just prolonging the suffering into another life. A God ritual for Asclepius will help in this regard. Asclepius heals the mind, body and soul.

Since you're also willing to donate to the Temple that much, you may be able to afford certain rituals in the HOO that could help you greatly in this, I won't say further, you can look for yourself.

Just so I won't be misunderstood since I know it's Mercury Retrograde, the certain rituals in the HOO I speak of could help in healing the person, not in them committing suicide, I should have specified this further.

All your sorrow will pass.

I recommend you continue your suffering for as long as it takes. With patience and endurance, a New Dawn will appear on the horizon, following that Dark Night you're in.

Read TG Ayleth's advice.

You will receive no permission for suicide, that sacrilege is forbidden. There are exceptions I won't explain because they don't apply to you, from what I can tell.

Brother I do sincerely understand where you are coming from as anyone in your shoes, would have thought same as you, including myself. But we cannot end our lives like this. This is something I have also debated with myself, facing many times, seemingly insurmountable circumstances and also while thinking of a final way out of life.

I know also the end of my life has to be marked, and it's planned to be, for the sake of the Temple. However, we ought not trigger this by our own hand, however the conditions might look. Even if this involves terminal illness, the time that this exists, can help you plan your legacy matters. Do not discard any time you have left on this world, as it can be used to your benefit.

It's understandable if you explode sometimes and that's human also. The Gods understand when we humans reach our absolute limits also.

It takes no courage to "suicide" for the Gods or anything divine. It won't help you repent or whatever. If you want to do things, do meaningful grand acts in the face of maybe inevitable death; to mark yourself in eternity for the Temple, but still, do NOT see to it that you die.

Legacy and legendary acts of giving, to give a huge "fuck you" to death and even terminal illness, are heroic acts; but one must not sacrifice their life - in fact, one must even do this, and then proceed to also battle death face to face: Because you might win and a new dawn might be ahead in the horizon; better than anything before.

Consider this seriously I am not giving you an empty prep-talk here. I talk from awareness of experience of totally devastating and hopeless circumstances encountered in material life.

It takes courage to stay alive, love yourself and do the earnest. So if you want to include the Temple or the Gods in this, that's how you can do it.

Theodore,

Suicide is not the answer. That answer i can tell you with certainty.

There are so many tools here and a supportive community that truly wants to help you heal and thrive. There is professional help that can urgently help, today!

Whatever is bothering you can be overcome, but ultimately that is your choice.

I hope you will choose to stay and see this through.

Greetings family

I will not say much at length because our family here has already stated many things perfectly .

I must just tell you that you are a Zevist soul and a warrior

Zevists have a tendency to overcome the odds

This can only happen if you continue to fight

Most struggles we endure in this life are repeated in the next unless we grow and overcome .

please never give up and utilise the material here to aid yourself anyway you can.

As for the negative thoughts and your worries about them,

The Gods understand who you are completely and intrusive or errant thoughts do not define you and the Gods will not reject you because of this

I will keep you in my thoughts and my prayers family 🙏🏼

May the Gods keep you strong and safe

Brother, please give the words of our Family here consideration. I don't have much to add to what they've already said, but I am also in a very dark place in life and had similar thoughts of suicide as recently as last night. But people here truly care about you. Find the strength you have within. You've found this Place of the Gods, don't throw that knowledge away. I was touched by your message as I can relate to wanting to die, I truly hope peace and healing come to you in time.

Others have put things about your situation in wonderful terms. The point I will add to this conversation is that it sounds like you need other people to talk with- i'm not meaning therapy though that is a given, what I'm meaning is that you should by all means join the chat group we have here called Vultus Temploreum. Any of the Clergy can give you an invite and the site itself just needs an email and password. On this site you can chat with dozens of people from this Temple as invites aren't given to those outside of it and have a community of people ready to help with advice and i'm pretty sure you'll find someone on there anytime day or night. Plus you can also know when different rituals are being hosted live so you can join in- it's not like zoom so no need to worry about your face being seen or even your voice being heard it's all chat.

Try it out, you have nothing to lose.

Hail our wonderful Father Zeus

What have you tried for treating mental health issues and physical pain? Have you tried all the options? I know people who were diagnosed with cancer and told by doctors they'd have about 5 years to live on chemotherapy, or people with congenital heart problems. With cancer, people suffer terribly and don't really live — they just exist and suffer. I don't want to say what problems I personally had, both physical and mental, but I've more or less solved them. So, coming back to people with cancer — it often develops because of carcinogenic food, smoking, alcohol, stress, and poor environmental conditions, and people with cancer whom doctors have given up on either give up themselves or radically change their lives. First, they switch to a strict raw food diet, do a full body cleanse, exercise daily, practice cold exposure/hardening, and move to an ecologically clean area, to the countryside. This also has a positive effect on both thoughts and mental state. Not to mention spiritual cleansing practices. There's no guarantee, but just like someone drowning in a swamp grabs at every straw because they want to live, you also need to find a reason to live. Usually, an unwillingness to live, to do anything, or a lack of understanding of the meaning of life is caused by a lack of energy, and certain actions like proper nutrition and lifestyle lead to a normalization of life energy. There's a writer named Vadim Zeland who personally helped me a lot. You can look him up online to see what he writes about — there's a chance he could help you too, and maybe his ideas will resonate with you on a deeper level.

Greetings, believe me on this one; If you'll not be tortured to death in the foreseeable future, you should not kill yourself.

Really there is no reason to kill yourself other than if you KNOW for SURE, like actually FOR CERTAIN that you'll die regardless in the near future in a much worse way. Or in the other very few, extremely few cases said in the ethic.

https://templeofzeus.org/life_ethics_death_slaying.phpExternal ↗

Also believe me on this one, If you endure this situation IT WILL PASS! Maybe something about the situation is permanent and whatever, but the mental state you are in right now that makes you feel and think this way WILL CHANGE! And you'll not think anymore that you should kill yourself and you'll look back and say that you are very grateful for the Gods and yourself that you did not choose to kill yourself.

If there is some sort of trauma / mental illness you can't deal with by yourself, seek professional help! I can recommend TCM phychiatrist or any other holistic psychiatrists, but go to a real normal graduated psychiatrist as well and take advantage of any other mental health service! Don't sleep on this really, don't overthink, just go to a psychiatrist ASAP!

You must stop this madness immediately. You said you care about the Gods? No God wants you to commit suicide. It's one of the gravest "sins" a person can commit. It weighs heavily on the scales of Ma'at. Not only does it not improve your subsequent lives, it creates enormous problems and worsens the quality of your soul. I was about to make this mistake, then a voice in my head stopped me. In the end, I'm truly grateful to this voice in my head for stopping me. For years, I suffered. Little by little, I'm trying to solve my problems. I couldn't see a glimmer of light, I saw practically nothing positive in my life; there were only problems. I don't know who or what stopped me that day, but in the end I'm alive, and I'm grateful for everything I have. I also had physical problems, unfortunately I also used psychotropic drugs (luckily I've stopped now), I was under psychiatric care, in the end I stopped. It was all many years ago before the Covid period, then Covid arrived and another blow, but this time I didn't consider suicide, I faced this difficulty in a very powerful way. Please, my friend, listen to me. There are people who I don't know what they would give to live and unfortunately they can't. There are people who have lost their sight, people without hearing. Life must be lived moment by moment. And do you want to know something? If you undertake an extremely rigorous meditation program, you can heal from ANY physical and mental ailment. The mind is extremely powerful. I have strangely healed from intolerances that seemed incurable. I am much healthier, much stronger, and I have a much fitter body. Please don't make this mistake, which you could bitterly regret.

Besides all the good advices here, I just want to specify a thing.

There isn't a thing like "suicide with God's permission", this statement in itself is an act of sahiburah, not intentional perhaps, but still.

No God would ever tell you "give me your money and f*ck off", this idea is just a product of your mind, born due to wrong conceptions, associations, ecc...

It's not God's fault or God's will, that's something on you, responsability for your own choices.

Push through while you can. Don't waste this opportunity to grow. You don't need to die to join the Gods, you get accepted in the family while alive. Instead of trying to "convice" the Gods for a permission to throw away your life, ask any God you feel a connection with to help you. https://templeofzeus.org/HELP.phpExternal ↗

You, like everyone else, will face the cosmic trial at the end of your life, and you will be asked why you gave up when you had the chance to work on your issues in this lifetime. Throwing life away because of pain is sacrilegious in my view, a spit on the face that gave the opportunity to do something with yourself. Life is precious; make something out of it, or pay the consequences for giving up.

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Suicide is a disappointing and selfish desire. Your desire for the approval to end your life is a mere manifestation of escapism.

Brother, the thoughts you spend wishing for it all to end can be better spent finding small ways to change your life.

Meditate a little every day. Clean your chakras. Build an aura of protection.

You will stand before the gods, and they will ask you very plainly: "why did you throw your life away when you had all the tools and support of your brothers and sisters? Why did you throw away the life we gave you when you could have asked our help and guidance?"

Brother, life has suffering. It has other things to. Find ways to make your life better. If you have courage to end yourself, that courage is better spent living. Use that courage to take the steps you need to take.