Just Wanted To Say Something About The Situation

Shannon, just do your best to go from here and be more active. Clergy is not for everyone, and us being human, we sometimes fall into mistakes that cost us later on. That goes for everyone.

Keep this is mind as you reflect back on this in the future. You will overcome these issues you describe in time and we will look forward to seeing more posts from you, as they are always very informative and provide insight into alot of things.

Good Luck, Stay Strong and HAIL ZEUS!

Larissa666 wrote:

I can see why Cobra would demote inactive clergy members, and I agree with that. If Cobra can be active as he is, then everyone can and should. There should be some standards.

As for Shannon, thank you for this follow up, and I am glad you decided to stick around. There are people who in your place would rage quit and become vindictive (Jake Carlson never wrote since he got demoted for example). You, on other hand show maturity and understanding of reality of this situation.

I think it's also important to understand that if a role is not met, it's better one leaves it, but that it also helps, absolves and likely in the longterm will improve and alleviate for the person doing this. It kind of helps everyone in the end.

The people are helped by not having empty expectations, others in positions are helped by not expecting certain things, and the person themselves does let go of what they might not want or feel incompatible with at the time.

This incompatibility has to do with what one does, it's not an opinion or a feeling based situation.

It's actually in their best benefit too in the longterm, as the emptiness of an unmet obligation can be a problem in one's mind. This can actually help in that regard. I don't want Shannon to no longer have to push anything.

She just walks her path now, and that's for the best. She explained herself better than I ever could, and I asked that she related this to us so that we know instead of anyone assuming anything.

As far as I am concerned on any "personal" level, I spoke above, and also this is not the best thing in my opinion with the whole "absent" thing, as it's kind of a wasted opportunity and untapped potential waiting.

Yet the future is large and open and one can still do what they could do. Understanding arrives at different times in many ways.

serpentwalker666 wrote:

Aquarius wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

Mate you're stuck in 2015, where everyone's identity was anything they believed hard enough :lol:

Did you do the King and Queen Meditation? I got 10 kundalini serpents, how many do you got bro.. 1? Those are rookie numbers over here, bump up to 5, thats what all the big boys are doing. That Luciferus Insanitus energy. Lol

You just gave me ptsd. Lmao

The amount of times ive had to take breaks or backtracked in some form is phenomenal, but most people dont enjoy discussing these types of things. Especially when you consider your position as something of extreme importance. I know what its like just to miss one day of Rituals, how many times have i laid in bed at the end of my night thinking, why cant i just do one right now?

Sometimes i think, others should be doing this work, im just a "kid", why is it my responsibility to take care of the entire planet. But, perfect practice makes perfect. For me, I make posts to remind whomever will read it, that they must take action, they must remember Zeus and the Gods, that they too can be Godlike and build towards their goals. That even in the midst of pain and despair, even at the threat of death, there is always more to give and more to take. In fact, it is our responsibility to "take" in a noble manner, because what people have to give, is generally for the better.

Also, I remember, sometimes Im going to be "weak", but those times when im weak, other people who I have personally built up during my "Strength", they will hold the reigns until I do Recover.

One Ritual today will be worth 10 Tommorow, One post today will be worth 10 Tommorow, because you will have inspired and empowered the most important community on this planet. Life is all about Learning and whether we like it or not, we are all teachers.

Bravera wrote:

The amount of times ive had to take breaks or backtracked in some form is phenomenal, but most people dont enjoy discussing these types of things. Especially when you consider your position as something of extreme importance. I know what its like just to miss one day of Rituals, how many times have i laid in bed at the end of my night thinking, why cant i just do one right now?

Sometimes i think, others should be doing this work, im just a "kid", why is it my responsibility to take care of the entire planet. But, perfect practice makes perfect. For me, I make posts to remind whomever will read it, that they must take action, they must remember Zeus and the Gods, that they too can be Godlike and build towards their goals. That even in the midst of pain and despair, even at the threat of death, there is always more to give and more to take. In fact, it is our responsibility to "take" in a noble manner, because what people have to give, is generally for the better.

Also, I remember, sometimes Im going to be "weak", but those times when im weak, other people who I have personally built up during my "Strength", they will hold the reigns until I do Recover.

One Ritual today will be worth 10 Tommorow, One post today will be worth 10 Tommorow, because you will have inspired and empowered the most important community on this planet. Life is all about Learning and whether we like it or not, we are all teachers.

Wow!

Profound and beautiful :D

Exactly as the proverb says: Less is more

As one of those who spoke in your defence in the previous thread, you made the right call by leaving this message. As has been said, by myself and many others, the period of inactivity and lack of communication given your station and so on, wasn't the greatest of looks. However, you've also done a lot of good for your subsection of the community, and unlike certain "HPs" in the past, you actually seemed to have always meant well and were interested in progressing. The station isn't for everyone, and given your apology here you can walk away from it with at least some grace intact.

That being said total distance probably isn't necessary. You still know much, you're still an insightful person, and I'm sure the black community here would still appreciate you as a figure. Without the burden of station, perhaps you'll even find yourself more capable of providing the wisdom you've picked up over the years. As you said, you're only human. Don't let this shake you off the path. You can still be an extremely valued member, and I'm sure many of us would still be glad knowing you're here progressing by our sides.

VoiceofEnki wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

Look here friends, we have another risen one.

I wonder what it will take for people to get their head out of their ass and stop having delusions about advancement or being risen.

Nobody seems to know what it means anymore. Every one is risen these days after a year or two yes yes.

Very good, then do act like it too if you are risen.

But of course, none of the proclaimed risen ones ever act like it. What does that tell us?

Then we have the people of actual quality and ability, do we ever see anyone of them brag about their spiritual accomplishments?

No, they never do, because it doesn't need to be said as it is evident from their actions and ability.

The true risen one won't really mention it, nor do they ever need to mention it. It is undeniable in their actions and ability that they are risen, and it doesn't have to be said.

That is the difference between a risen one and a fool.

HAIL ZEUS!

Another stupid clown. I'm not going to deign to justify myself to a low thing like you. Idiot

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

I'd sit there to give you some constructive advice but I believe it's better and most deserved for you to dwell in your delusions and the tier where you belong.

I don't have to do manually what life will reply to you by default.

Clearly the only reason you dislike the original post is because of you existing in the same fake fantasy tier that most of people who would dislike this are, but life will settle this for what post won't and I won't.

Delete this account you piece of shit and spare me your disgusting drama.

NinRick wrote:

NinRick wrote:

BrightSpace666 wrote:

Again, it's a question of attitude and how the whole phenomenon is reflected in you. Not everyone has the same opinion about a certain thing, and that's perfectly normal. Just as it is not normal to call someone having a contrary opinion on something "pretence" or "hypocrisy".

I take this "pretending" off on me, because if you think that, you have the wrong idea about me. It is true that I want everyone to be perfect, that is a fact. Just like I don't like fighting, I have always been a peace loving person.

I feel I don't need to explain myself, my opinion speaks for itself. I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.

Feel free to call me a "hypocrite" or think I'm "faking it", but that puts me on the negative stage of reality and interpretation and gives me a false image.

We have freedom, which gives us freedom of opinion and freedom of thought. That is what the Path itself is about, FREEDOM.

My opinion about this thread, and my opinion about you being a pretender, who pretends to be further in advancement than he actually is, to gain a sense of validation from others, caused by deep insecurities, are 2 separate topics.

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

Okay, thanks.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

NinRick wrote:

My opinion about this thread, and my opinion about you being a pretender, who pretends to be further in advancement than he actually is, to gain a sense of validation from others, caused by deep insecurities, are 2 separate topics.

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

Okay, thanks.

Why are you speaking like that about BrightSpace? He gives such wonderful topics. I respect him very much for his wisdom and I personally even took some of his toughts as really helpful in my advancement and in life. Anyway he is awesome. Why such opposition? Have I missed something, I don’t think so, because after reading alot of his posts and topics, I can say he is really advanced, of course there is levels, but I consider from my perspective it to be like that. and he is not trying to pretend. It is just like that. Maybe you understood something trough some assumption or what, but there are whole lot of family members who respect him.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

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Please restrain yourself, because you are making yourself look bad.

The focus of this debate is not about who you are, or who HPZM is, but on the judgement and delegation of titles and responsibilities.

Destroying your relationship with the community over this is not a wise thing to do, despite if tempers have flared or whatever.

You gave your input that you thought the situation was too harsh, but HPZM corrected you and explained how he thought it was necessary. There is no need to extend any friction past this point, especially not to the sort of serious damage which is happening now.

Just recognize that you were missing some facts and opinions about the situation, but these have now been given to you. At this point, just disconnect from the situation rather than trying to proof yourself at the expense of your reputation.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

Okay, thanks.

This situation is not solely on you or anything uniquely damning or anything. There is some amount of learning to be had here, but it does not have to be done at major expense of your own feelings. This goes for everyone.

It is natural for people who are compassionate to go to great lengths for others, but there is a balancing act here. Look at the zodiac wheel and see how Capricorn and Cancer oppose each other. Both are concerned about well-being, but one chooses to nurture and the other chooses to employ discipline and restrictions.

By being careful about who we trust with certain responsibilities, this avoids certain upsets like which has happened. The situation with Shannon was overdue, and that is why it "exploded" in a sense. Nonetheless, she is fine and still a capable woman, despite if she needs to fix certain things.

As for yourself, just be aware of the motivations behind your actions, as well as the credibility behind them. People may do things out of pain, or act prematurely or without proper evidence or backing. That does not mean their intentions are fake, but that they need to prune some of their problematic tendencies, restoring themselves to a perfected state.

There are people who strongly want authority, yet without credibility and there are also very competent people who are hindered by low confidence. Both confidence and credibility are needed to successfully influence others. Yet, if you have one aspect of this, then you are already half way there.

As Zevism, we have the tools to shape ourselves into prosperous archetypes or roles, and so there is no reason to despair or anything. It would also be silly to assume that you can detach yourself from any negative karma overnight. Just try to do your best on a daily basis while you implement the long-term solutions necessary.

Channel your drive to help with an equal desire to research and cite, so that people do not accuse you of lacking substance within your forum presence. This would become like a learning process, where you add more grounding to the input you give others, which prevents unintentionally misleading other. Korpi is a good example of this, where he puts all his sources so we can see where his thoughts are coming from.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

NinRick wrote:

My opinion about this thread, and my opinion about you being a pretender, who pretends to be further in advancement than he actually is, to gain a sense of validation from others, caused by deep insecurities, are 2 separate topics.

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

Okay, thanks.

NinRick is trying to explain in a maybe more direct than necessary manner, that the important thing about sharing things is actually to have conquered these things, because alternatively one is promoting delusion to one's self or others, and this gap might make one want to appear as bigger than what one is, a situation which is not holding itself up on strong pillars but rather only claims.

The important thing is to limit this and engage in proper action, but also inner development, and not try to drag the future by the hair.

NinRick also a small request, as Brightspace always has shown positive sentiment and is a Zevist in good standing, please articulate a point in a way that is related to a brother, and not based on too much harshness.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

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A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

I'd sit there to give you some constructive advice but I believe it's better and most deserved for you to dwell in your delusions and the tier where you belong.

I don't have to do manually what life will reply to you by default.

Clearly the only reason you dislike the original post is because of you existing in the same fake fantasy tier that most of people who would dislike this are, but life will settle this for what post won't and I won't.

Delete this account you piece of shit and spare me your disgusting drama.

When your ego-trip is over while you simultaneously try to pretend you call others on these, and rather the false target which is "me" on this case, keep in mind none of this behavior let alone communal distance will help you alleviate the causes of this.

Instead of finding idiots to hang around with who have nothing to tell you, which will validate a pointless delusion, or drifting away by your own self in delusion in a secluded manner, it's best to face certain situations such as the fact that a zap up your ass proves nothing

Or that you are a constant hypocrite to your own projected standards, which you quickly made up just to tell me something negative about decisions you did not even understand, but you "felt" justified you "could" understand based on a chain of internal delusion taking place that probably also involves the "Gods" for which you are beginning to have contact but you assume you are the golden baby because of a repressed ego that seeks expression in that problematic manner.

Things you claimed on decent speech being a sign of enlightenment, where in practice you didn't even do that? Only when you need it to have something to say to "me".

These were only to make up nonsense about me to attack me with for psychological reasons I have illustrated above and because I can see right away you belonged in the category you expressed discontent with.

Which is the pointless imaginative sheep who think they are "Ascended" while you are nowhere on this level by the standard of reality.

The sole purpose of this incident is that it exposes your own lack of what you consider a reality, which clashed with actual reality.

You can accept this and move on, instead of telling yourself foul lies that give you a false sense of superiority backed by nothing, which you falsely consider your identity at this point.

I also don't want any apologies or anything, the only decent thing would be to understand it, and I won't take personally the words you told me here, because I know they are the product of you thinking that everything is measured subjectively, and your own applied hypocrisy on the subject.

Yes, I need to work on that.
This was not meant to belittle Brightspace, as I respect him for what he is doing and all the work he is putting into the Advancement of Zevism.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

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I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.
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HP Salem which is a HP from over 15 years ago, never betrayed us in anyway. I have explained on this.

Salem was loyal, but he disobeyed repeatedly HPS Pythia's wise orders on two things; one thing was to not publicly expose himself and to not issue threats to enemies of ToZ on a camera, and the second was to stop doing dangerous drugs, which he did as part of his profession.

It didn't take long before he paid the price of this disobedience which caused him increasing damage and eventually this made him progressively lose his sanity. Salem didn't care and played it stupidly, which is typical LHP behavior at the time, where people didn't understand what they were doing.

Eventually, these two things coupled with a few other personalities faults were his undoing and downfall. Yet this was not related to any form of betrayal or any "betrayal" that was in anyway intended. In other words he never gave in to the enemy or whatever.

In his mind he could not understand what he was doing was actually bad, despite of it being obvious. He denied the signs of damage and decay taking place. The Gods tried to also warn him to no avail, until he completely lost it entirely.

A combination of over egoistical perception, delusion based on drugs, and also coupled by what we have to admit was an uncontrollable zeal for ToZ that he could not control based on wise counselling and learning where to put the breaks, did cause him a major downfall.

Even though it's about struggles you're having, it's so good to hear from you. We all screw up when learning and growing, what matters is you're standing your ground and facing this honorably. Put in whatever the fight requires and win this. You're worth a lot, and you're not alone.
Get stronger, Sister. And as always feel free to email me any time for any reason. I haven't checked that address in a while but will do so tonight after work.
All the best!

Shannon wrote:

I believed it was only appropriate to write to all of you to publicly apologize to anyone who may have felt I let them down, or, to put it another way, failed. Also, I wanted to make it known that I have not left the TOZ (who in their right mind would after everything that has happened or been experienced?), nor am I an infiltrator or anything of the type that may have been floating about.

I've never lied about working on my soul or seeking advancement. Part of the difficulty was that I got caught up and retreated, becoming too isolated or withdrawn, among other things (maybe not worth discussing at this point). But, in any case, it is my situation. I just wanted to make that clear. I am only a human who is still capable of making mistakes and having character flaws, but this will be addressed. I sincerely apologize if I have disappointed any of you. But what is done is done. And I am at least happy to know that I accomplished some things that will be useful in the future.

I underestimated my position and allowed other things in life to take hold of me, as well as allowing myself to be taken by the concept that I was no longer of use or that there was nothing more to be gained or shared from me. A lot has transpired over time, and I wanted to remain behind the scenes, which I am doing now and will surely be doing other projects for Zevism. I still enjoy writing, which is why I put out the two posts a couple days ago, regardless of my position. That's all I had to say, and most importantly, I hope you're all safe, healthy, and strong. I'm still here and will never abandon Zevism. That is definitely a fact.

NinRick wrote:

Yes, I need to work on that.
This was not meant to belittle Brightspace, as I respect him for what he is doing and all the work he is putting into the Advancement of Zevism.

Generally, people who are sensitive are already listening to what you have to say, so harsh words are not necessary, or can even be overkill. You can always escalate later if your point is not heard, but doing that too soon can cause hurt feelings.

Blitzkreig [JG wrote:

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NinRick wrote:

Yes, I need to work on that.
This was not meant to belittle Brightspace, as I respect him for what he is doing and all the work he is putting into the Advancement of Zevism.

Generally, people who are sensitive are already listening to what you have to say, so harsh words are not necessary, or can even be overkill. You can always escalate later if your point is not heard, but doing that too soon can cause hurt feelings.

Yes, I agree, among other things we must also have good ethics. This is improvement in everything.
JG I sent you an email 2-3 ago, check it when you can.

Blitzkreig [JG wrote:

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BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

Okay, thanks.

This situation is not solely on you or anything uniquely damning or anything. There is some amount of learning to be had here, but it does not have to be done at major expense of your own feelings. This goes for everyone.

It is natural for people who are compassionate to go to great lengths for others, but there is a balancing act here. Look at the zodiac wheel and see how Capricorn and Cancer oppose each other. Both are concerned about well-being, but one chooses to nurture and the other chooses to employ discipline and restrictions.

By being careful about who we trust with certain responsibilities, this avoids certain upsets like which has happened. The situation with Shannon was overdue, and that is why it "exploded" in a sense. Nonetheless, she is fine and still a capable woman, despite if she needs to fix certain things.

As for yourself, just be aware of the motivations behind your actions, as well as the credibility behind them. People may do things out of pain, or act prematurely or without proper evidence or backing. That does not mean their intentions are fake, but that they need to prune some of their problematic tendencies, restoring themselves to a perfected state.

There are people who strongly want authority, yet without credibility and there are also very competent people who are hindered by low confidence. Both confidence and credibility are needed to successfully influence others. Yet, if you have one aspect of this, then you are already half way there.

As Zevism, we have the tools to shape ourselves into prosperous archetypes or roles, and so there is no reason to despair or anything. It would also be silly to assume that you can detach yourself from any negative karma overnight. Just try to do your best on a daily basis while you implement the long-term solutions necessary.

Channel your drive to help with an equal desire to research and cite, so that people do not accuse you of lacking substance within your forum presence. This would become like a learning process, where you add more grounding to the input you give others, which prevents unintentionally misleading other. Korpi is a good example of this, where he puts all his sources so we can see where his thoughts are coming from.

I am not particularly interested in such debates. Whatever anyone thinks, it often doesn't change the facts. If NinRick thinks I'm "pretending", then he should think I'm pretending, there must be a reason for that. I'm not judging, if he thinks I'm pretending, then I pretending.

I don't get into arguments to satisfy the "inferiority" or subconscious "jealousy" of others. Write what you want, I respond with a "thank you" and that's it for me. I don't care that much.

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

BrightSpace666 wrote:

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I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.
...

HP Salem which is a HP from over 15 years ago, never betrayed us in anyway. I have explained on this.

Salem was loyal, but he disobeyed repeatedly HPS Pythia's wise orders on two things; one thing was to not publicly expose himself and to not issue threats to enemies of ToZ on a camera, and the second was to stop doing dangerous drugs, which he did as part of his profession.

It didn't take long before he paid the price of this disobedience which caused him increasing damage and eventually this made him progressively lose his sanity. Salem didn't care and played it stupidly, which is typical LHP behavior at the time, where people didn't understand what they were doing.

Eventually, these two things coupled with a few other personalities faults were his undoing and downfall. Yet this was not related to any form of betrayal or any "betrayal" that was in anyway intended. In other words he never gave in to the enemy or whatever.

In his mind he could not understand what he was doing was actually bad, despite of it being obvious. He denied the signs of damage and decay taking place. The Gods tried to also warn him to no avail, until he completely lost it entirely.

A combination of over egoistical perception, delusion based on drugs, and also coupled by what we have to admit was an uncontrollable zeal for ToZ that he could not control based on wise counselling and learning where to put the breaks, did cause him a major downfall.

I need to think about all this. From what I know of him, I have found many similarities between him and me, but that doesn't mean I have to end my Path with a "failure".