Just Wanted To Say Something About The Situation

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Manofsatan wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

I don't see it as a big deal and I don't fully agree with this demotion nonsense. In my opinion it is just uselessly disrespectful to go on making too much ado about removing a title. It is disrespectful to the dedicated efforts made by the concerned person over years simply because she is unable to be very active lately.

As a proud Zevist, I thank you for your time and knowledge. I found your posts to be meaningful and I really prefer QUALITY to quantity.

For the fact you are using word to insult actions of discipline, shows you may not be a Zevist, you don't understand "dedication" on your level then to talk more on the clergy.
She was the head of the black community, sometimes ago when she made sparing appearance, I asked her if she abandoned that community. Just like abandoning children put under your care. So do you understand what a High Priest or priestess is? It's not play.
The level of disappointment on your name will be forever "Osiris Silivio". Shame on you for your lack of reasoning, understanding and going against order.

Maybe you should ease your tits a little bit. "Shame on you" Oh please you sound pitiable. Spare me your worthless replies next time. Thanks

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

I don't see it as a big deal and I don't fully agree with this demotion nonsense. In my opinion it is just uselessly disrespectful to go on making too much ado about removing a title. It is disrespectful to the dedicated efforts made by the concerned person over years simply because she is unable to be very active lately.

As a proud Zevist, I thank you for your time and knowledge. I found your posts to be meaningful and I really prefer QUALITY to quantity.

You don't see it as a big deal because on the delusional/newbie level, none of this is real to you. This creates the outcome where you think nothing is very serious besides one's own newbie nonsense, which is not the level Clergy is supposed to play at. What is more important is your own nonsense at this tier of limited understanding.

Lately is around 3 years now. Showing up twice per year or whatever is unacceptable as Clergy.

The above is common sense.

Additionally, the "no standards is best standards" is no longer the case. Era's over. The Gods have plans they want to do, their plan is not to appease emotionally weak individuals who don't know who to blame and can't think like mature adults.

I realize most of you have no actual measurement of what is what, and judge based on nothing [and in particular when it comes against someone like me, that is an excellent practice, a feel good practice, a "that's the bad guy practice" which is typical of jealous assholes who invoke angels or something] but absence is what it is.

This essentially comes from the same confused territory that you represent and you think the Gods coddle you and touch your chin and tell you how wonderful you are, without anything substantial in this case.

Your judgements are solely emotional and merely meant to cast doubt upon the evident. Yes, from now on, anyone doing something for ToZ will be following a proper path to this. People can't be entering deserted temples.

I won't be opening up websites to see abandoned sites for 6 months or more. I go there and I find a site completely abandonned. Excuse after excuse.

That is not someone who speaks with Azazel face to face, Silvio kiddo. Sorry to break down your reality over this.

As a last note, I want to say openly that most have no real awareness whatsoever of the "level" of a High Priest. If you want to understand what this level is, besides internet sensationalism, an actual look into the future is required.

You cannot miss from all the festivals and all the temples and "just show up" once a day, unless there is fatal illness, actual responsibilities which are overbearing, or death involved.

Okay I am going to skip your disrespect. I understand the situation more clearly now. It would have been better if I did not give my opinion.

Can you stop saying that I invoke angels? I do not invoke any Seraphic slaves and I hate them.

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

Dahaarkan wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

I don't see it as a big deal and I don't fully agree with this demotion nonsense. In my opinion it is just uselessly disrespectful to go on making too much ado about removing a title. It is disrespectful to the dedicated efforts made by the concerned person over years simply because she is unable to be very active lately.

As a proud Zevist, I thank you for your time and knowledge. I found your posts to be meaningful and I really prefer QUALITY to quantity.

The point isn't to destroy Shannon it's simply a situation where a HP should be active in their role. This doesn't mean Shannon is a failed Zevist or a bad person, but simply that she was no longer fulfilling this specific role to the capacity that is required. The reasons for this are only known to her and are frankly irrelevant to the situation.

One can have very valid reasons for not following through, or one may have only excuses. The end result is the same; a person who cannot be active, regardless of the reasons being valid or not, should not maintain the title of HP.

This is why I say when one feels they are unable to follow through with what is required to simply resign, there is no shame in this and this displays integrity and strength of character. Yes, certain people will be very eager to point their fingers because it makes them feel powerful or something. It's easier to kick someone while they are down than to support and uplift them so they may grow from the situation and move forward.

I agree with you, thanks

Manofsatan wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

I don't see it as a big deal and I don't fully agree with this demotion nonsense. In my opinion it is just uselessly disrespectful to go on making too much ado about removing a title. It is disrespectful to the dedicated efforts made by the concerned person over years simply because she is unable to be very active lately.

As a proud Zevist, I thank you for your time and knowledge. I found your posts to be meaningful and I really prefer QUALITY to quantity.

For the fact you are using word to insult actions of discipline, shows you may not be a Zevist, you don't understand "dedication" on your level then to talk more on the clergy.
She was the head of the black community, sometimes ago when she made sparing appearance, I asked her if she abandoned that community. Just like abandoning children put under your care. So do you understand what a High Priest or priestess is? It's not play.
The level of disappointment on your name will be forever "Osiris Silivio". Shame on you for your lack of reasoning, understanding and going against order.

I appreciate your passion. But what I thought or wrote does not have to bring any sort of shame to my name. It doesn't invalidate me as a Zevist. Even if I did a mistake, do you think it is that enormous to affect me forever? 😂

What I will learn from all of this, is to not post any replies unless they are very necessary. I don't want to cause any trouble.

SleepingWolf wrote:

VoiceofEnki wrote:

High Priestess Pythia set this standard, and High Priest Zevios followed through to carry on the torch.

Is this actually true the Pythia was as active at one point as Cobra is now? I'm assuming this is referring to the 2000s era? Genuinely asking for those who've only been on these new forums, not the Yahoo days, since the years leading up to what I assume are her higher duties now, she was not as active at least as visibly as Cobra. I assumed she was just active behind the scenes with Cobra, but didn't things were probably different before these forums.

I remember in 2015 and 2016 she was very active and writing sermons and posting every day on yahoo groups and the former forum.
I also remember her responding to my first post in the yahoo groups in 2012 when I was just starting out.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

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A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

I'd sit there to give you some constructive advice but I believe it's better and most deserved for you to dwell in your delusions and the tier where you belong.

I don't have to do manually what life will reply to you by default.

Clearly the only reason you dislike the original post is because of you existing in the same fake fantasy tier that most of people who would dislike this are, but life will settle this for what post won't and I won't.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Okay I am going to skip your disrespect. I understand the situation more clearly now. It would have been better if I did not give my opinion.

Can you stop saying that I invoke angels? I do not invoke any Seraphic slaves and I hate them.

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

You could be a god for all I care and my response is the same either way. You have yet to make a single worthwhile contribution here, and therefore you are utterly worthless to the group regardless of how advanced or not you are, and as a consequence, your voice holds no real weight or importance regardless of how much progress you've made or not.

Due to this, you have no ground with which to stand on to declare HC's contribution as insufficient or not good enough. This empty talk of being risen and bringing up your GD does not impress me.

Start contributing and educating and elevating your brothers and sisters, and maybe then you'll have ground to stand on and be taken seriously. As it is right now you're just one of the many accounts who jump at any opportunity to slander and make empty accusations.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

Mate you're stuck in 2015, where everyone's identity was anything they believed hard enough :lol:

Yayaz666 wrote:

Maya wrote:

Well HP Zevios Metathronos just pointed out the obvious, that you are totally and completely absent. In my humble opinion, you yourself chose that years ago actually, by being inactive.

I honestly cannot understand how you dare to say that you were "no longer of use" while you were in charge of specific forums. To every forum many questions are posted daily, and you ignored that someone might need you. Some people have no title, yet they work way more than you here, and they appreciate their position. It is a disgrace to the Gods to be chosen for a specific work and leave it aside for years, only to show up every six months to write 5 comments.

Maybe because she felt like so many things were being handled by the people being present. That nothing felt missing. And i feel like she was trying to be respectful by not resigning. She might have not been involved in many other projects that were going on at the moment, hence the more isolation. I would also keep some other things i would rather say in my mind.

The ToZ is evolving. The forums haven't been the same 7years ago. As it evolves more engagement is needed from everyone. Everyone has a part to play and I think Sister Shannon has done much. I am personally grateful for her work. I think if she would have decided to let go of the preisthood as Hp Pythia did, it would have been the best way. I also don't think working for Satan means doing everything others are doing. For those who are doing much. Good for them. More blessings.

Everyone does what they can. Our realities are so much different. And i am kindly waiting to see the improvements the next priest/priestess of the Blacks for Satan will do. And from my mind its not the amount of work that one does but the quality that matters.

Maybe yes, maybe no, we can't know and we will never know the actual truth for this, we can only make assumptions. Assuming how a person's life is, assuming what they are doing etc. though these are not facts, just imagination.
Everyone has an opinion, you think she did much, and I totally respect your opinion. Though I am sorry but my opinion is different because I see some things in a different way. My opinion is that when the Gods give you something to do, you don't give up. And in my opinion, her task was to be an hps, with all the weight and honour this has, and she gave up for her own reasons long ago. This doesn't mean I don't appreciate her work.
Now what if every hp we have gave up because they thought "they have done much" as you assume? We would have nothing right now. And she just left the time pass for years. The fact that she made a post about it is good, but when you talk about anything on the forums you have to know that there are many opinions and points of view out there.

NinRick wrote:

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NakedPluto wrote:

Exactly one does not know and one will assume based on statements and claims.

Maya has stated valid points. The problem is people assume false things about certain situations, and exactly this needs to be cleared by revealing the reality, in a formal or informal way, whatever the situation might be.

I personally agree with Maya, and people should understand the seriousness but also be empathic to certain degree, that minimally should do with the general respect of Zevism people. This doesn't negate the brutal and logical part of things, such as questioning why to stop the confusion.

Since the situation has been communicated, now we must look towards to the future.

In no way did I say I disagree, because to some extent it is understandable. Unfortunately, that's just the way things are, we have to move on, which can be difficult in many cases, but given the current circumstances that are happening and are happening spiritually, we have to move on.

Maya said 666% the truth. What she said is not "to some extent [...] understandable", everything she said is fully right.

You have some social complexes and can not address issues direcly, because you want to make everyone feel perfectly fine always, just as much as you want to feel yourself. This opens up to delusions, you should work on that.
Harsh facts are more valuable than posing and faking everything, just to get approval of people.

Be real and advance step by step and be recognized for that, than pretend to more and fake it just to get approval of people.

Again, it's a question of attitude and how the whole phenomenon is reflected in you. Not everyone has the same opinion about a certain thing, and that's perfectly normal. Just as it is not normal to call someone having a contrary opinion on something "pretence" or "hypocrisy".

I take this "pretending" off on me, because if you think that, you have the wrong idea about me. It is true that I want everyone to be perfect, that is a fact. Just like I don't like fighting, I have always been a peace loving person.

I feel I don't need to explain myself, my opinion speaks for itself. I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.

Feel free to call me a "hypocrite" or think I'm "faking it", but that puts me on the negative stage of reality and interpretation and gives me a false image.

We have freedom, which gives us freedom of opinion and freedom of thought. That is what the Path itself is about, FREEDOM.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

Look here friends, we have another risen one.

I wonder what it will take for people to get their head out of their ass and stop having delusions about advancement or being risen.

Nobody seems to know what it means anymore. Every one is risen these days after a year or two yes yes.

Very good, then do act like it too if you are risen.

But of course, none of the proclaimed risen ones ever act like it. What does that tell us?

Then we have the people of actual quality and ability, do we ever see anyone of them brag about their spiritual accomplishments?

No, they never do, because it doesn't need to be said as it is evident from their actions and ability.

The true risen one won't really mention it, nor do they ever need to mention it. It is undeniable in their actions and ability that they are risen, and it doesn't have to be said.

That is the difference between a risen one and a fool.

HAIL ZEUS!

I really am grateful there are High Priests and High Priestesses in here.You all are important but at the same time I understand how busy you are.You are human beings and you may feel tired sometimes.Its ok but you should never think you are not important because you have no Idea how important you all are for us.My biggest nightmare and fear is losing TOZ which will happen if High priests and High priestesses leave us.

HP, I have a thousand things going on in my mind and would like some good sound advice _ I want to be happy and empowered in my life

Valkarie wrote:

HP, I have a thousand things going on in my mind and would like some good sound advice _ I want to be happy and empowered in my life

I am always available, just mail me or ask in the forums if I can help you in anyway. Thank you.

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

BrightSpace666 wrote:

In no way did I say I disagree, because to some extent it is understandable. Unfortunately, that's just the way things are, we have to move on, which can be difficult in many cases, but given the current circumstances that are happening and are happening spiritually, we have to move on.

Maya said 666% the truth. What she said is not "to some extent [...] understandable", everything she said is fully right.

You have some social complexes and can not address issues direcly, because you want to make everyone feel perfectly fine always, just as much as you want to feel yourself. This opens up to delusions, you should work on that.
Harsh facts are more valuable than posing and faking everything, just to get approval of people.

Be real and advance step by step and be recognized for that, than pretend to more and fake it just to get approval of people.

Again, it's a question of attitude and how the whole phenomenon is reflected in you. Not everyone has the same opinion about a certain thing, and that's perfectly normal. Just as it is not normal to call someone having a contrary opinion on something "pretence" or "hypocrisy".

I take this "pretending" off on me, because if you think that, you have the wrong idea about me. It is true that I want everyone to be perfect, that is a fact. Just like I don't like fighting, I have always been a peace loving person.

I feel I don't need to explain myself, my opinion speaks for itself. I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.

Feel free to call me a "hypocrite" or think I'm "faking it", but that puts me on the negative stage of reality and interpretation and gives me a false image.

We have freedom, which gives us freedom of opinion and freedom of thought. That is what the Path itself is about, FREEDOM.

My opinion about this thread, and my opinion about you being a pretender, who pretends to be further in advancement than he actually is, to gain a sense of validation from others, caused by deep insecurities, are 2 separate topics.

NinRick wrote:

BrightSpace666 wrote:

NinRick wrote:

Maya said 666% the truth. What she said is not "to some extent [...] understandable", everything she said is fully right.

You have some social complexes and can not address issues direcly, because you want to make everyone feel perfectly fine always, just as much as you want to feel yourself. This opens up to delusions, you should work on that.
Harsh facts are more valuable than posing and faking everything, just to get approval of people.

Be real and advance step by step and be recognized for that, than pretend to more and fake it just to get approval of people.

Again, it's a question of attitude and how the whole phenomenon is reflected in you. Not everyone has the same opinion about a certain thing, and that's perfectly normal. Just as it is not normal to call someone having a contrary opinion on something "pretence" or "hypocrisy".

I take this "pretending" off on me, because if you think that, you have the wrong idea about me. It is true that I want everyone to be perfect, that is a fact. Just like I don't like fighting, I have always been a peace loving person.

I feel I don't need to explain myself, my opinion speaks for itself. I have the same opinion about former High Priest Salem Burke. Whatever you say will not change my opinion. I didn't like that he betrayed us [allegedly], I liked his personality at the time. That's it, nothing will change that.

Feel free to call me a "hypocrite" or think I'm "faking it", but that puts me on the negative stage of reality and interpretation and gives me a false image.

We have freedom, which gives us freedom of opinion and freedom of thought. That is what the Path itself is about, FREEDOM.

My opinion about this thread, and my opinion about you being a pretender, who pretends to be further in advancement than he actually is, to gain a sense of validation from others, caused by deep insecurities, are 2 separate topics.

By this not only you delude yourself, you also deceive other people here, which is always a bad thing, as Zevism stands for truth and dealing with reality.

I can see why Cobra would demote inactive clergy members, and I agree with that. If Cobra can be active as he is, then everyone can and should. There should be some standards.

As for Shannon, thank you for this follow up, and I am glad you decided to stick around. There are people who in your place would rage quit and become vindictive (Jake Carlson never wrote since he got demoted for example). You, on other hand show maturity and understanding of reality of this situation.

Osiris Silvio wrote:

HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

I don't see it as a big deal and I don't fully agree with this demotion nonsense. In my opinion it is just uselessly disrespectful to go on making too much ado about removing a title. It is disrespectful to the dedicated efforts made by the concerned person over years simply because she is unable to be very active lately.

As a proud Zevist, I thank you for your time and knowledge. I found your posts to be meaningful and I really prefer QUALITY to quantity.

You don't see it as a big deal because on the delusional/newbie level, none of this is real to you. This creates the outcome where you think nothing is very serious besides one's own newbie nonsense, which is not the level Clergy is supposed to play at. What is more important is your own nonsense at this tier of limited understanding.

Lately is around 3 years now. Showing up twice per year or whatever is unacceptable as Clergy.

The above is common sense.

Additionally, the "no standards is best standards" is no longer the case. Era's over. The Gods have plans they want to do, their plan is not to appease emotionally weak individuals who don't know who to blame and can't think like mature adults.

I realize most of you have no actual measurement of what is what, and judge based on nothing [and in particular when it comes against someone like me, that is an excellent practice, a feel good practice, a "that's the bad guy practice" which is typical of jealous assholes who invoke angels or something] but absence is what it is.

This essentially comes from the same confused territory that you represent and you think the Gods coddle you and touch your chin and tell you how wonderful you are, without anything substantial in this case.

Your judgements are solely emotional and merely meant to cast doubt upon the evident. Yes, from now on, anyone doing something for ToZ will be following a proper path to this. People can't be entering deserted temples.

I won't be opening up websites to see abandoned sites for 6 months or more. I go there and I find a site completely abandonned. Excuse after excuse.

That is not someone who speaks with Azazel face to face, Silvio kiddo. Sorry to break down your reality over this.

As a last note, I want to say openly that most have no real awareness whatsoever of the "level" of a High Priest. If you want to understand what this level is, besides internet sensationalism, an actual look into the future is required.

You cannot miss from all the festivals and all the temples and "just show up" once a day, unless there is fatal illness, actual responsibilities which are overbearing, or death involved.

Okay I am going to skip your disrespect. I understand the situation more clearly now. It would have been better if I did not give my opinion.

Can you stop saying that I invoke angels? I do not invoke any Seraphic slaves and I hate them.

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

I did reach a high level through meditation. This I personally and only I can know. Trying to downsize me will not help and will not work. There is always more maturity to attain, however: emotional, intellectual, physical, spiritual.

You must understand "muh serpent is risen" is not an argument that can be formed towards reality.

Whether you agree or disagree about the clergy demotion is whatever, but bringing "my raised kundalini serpent" into a discussion is just very childish.

Another thing. Just because the kundalini serpent pierces the crown chakra, doesn't necessarily equate to "risen".

The serpent after it pierces the crown, requires you to work alot on yourself to truly be a worthy conduit for this power, and for it to continue to circulate and evolve you.

You may have vented and risen the serpent properly out the crown, im not invalidating or doubting that. But if you want to REALLY SEE and EXPERIENCE what this divine force of Satan can do, you must contiue to work with it and circulate it.

Just becuase this force has been cultivated and risen, does NOT mean the immediate result is strong wisdom and power after this. It can take alot of work to bring this out properly.

Lastly, The Kundalini Serpent is not grounds for a dick measuring contest. You can't just whip it out and beat people with it when you have a disagreement.

Cobra must have written you that stern, important reply for a reason, so swallow your pride and figure out why.

Best of luck. Hope you reflect on things.

Aquarius wrote:

Osiris Silvio wrote:

A newbie does not have a raised Kundalini Serpent, which I do, thanks to my Guardian Daemon, whether you like it or not. And please, don't be prejudiced. If I did not assess the situation quite properly that does not invalidate my strength, which of course comes from my past lives and higher self in addition to this lifetime.

Mate you're stuck in 2015, where everyone's identity was anything they believed hard enough :lol:

Did you do the King and Queen Meditation? I got 10 kundalini serpents, how many do you got bro.. 1? Those are rookie numbers over here, bump up to 5, thats what all the big boys are doing. That Luciferus Insanitus energy. Lol