Temple of Zeus — The Assembly of the Gods

Criticism and Feedback: How Can We Improve?

High Priest Zevios Metathronos

High Priest Zevios Metathronos
#1

After the recent post and the overwhelming positive and necessary points about future goals and advancement. That has been an impressive post.

I marvelled reading the many positive comments, especially those who mentioned how much Zevism and the Gods have changed you and improved you. We must build further on this.

Most of the things mentioned are already under way. Admittedly that is very positive. The communal value is supposed to increase all the time.

Part of this is dealing with potential mistakes.

Now, it would also be a good idea before the end of the material year, to start another conversation.

This would be over things where you think there should be improvement or constitute mistakes.

Here, we might speak of mistakes or even criticism, but we must focus on this: It has to be functional and of use, and presented properly.

For useful conversation, even if this is aimed at other members or the community, it would be a good idea to express in a respectable manner. Among kin and like minded people with a common mission that is important.

If someone also has negative feedback or even very negative comments, I am open to listen to these of course, but I would request to treat other ToZ members with respect, especially people who toil for everyone else everyday.

That is not a question for infiltrators, but for members. Except if maybe you are lukewarm infiltrators who are actually with us but you still say bullshit to yourself that you dislike "us" while you actually do not fall in this category in the end of the day.

That is not a post to isolate a member and start judging them, but rather for community improvement.

The degree of tolerance for error must be understood as being part of nature. We are disgnosing to raise the bar here, not to break people who already want to give.

Further, if one is new or one has not much to point out, then maybe one could write about how they would expect to have a better experience. Or what made you struggle in learning or something similar.

Recognition of errors must happen on a basis of experience. But all opinions welcome.

Example: There has been a lot of editorial errors in many posts or even webpages. There were mistakes. We located them and fixed them. The outcome is that through pointing these mistakes and doing the proper criticism, then putting the work, the errors are being more and more fixed. The aim is to remove these mistakes.

The aim is this: To find out potential areas of improvement and have an upwards going trajectory for the good of the Gods and the ToZ community, to reflect this back on members, for our collective growth.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Discussion

laurentumActive Translator
#2

I believe that everything related to spiritual advancement such as the "40 Day Program" and "Spiritual Warfare Training Program for Zevists" should come with a better and updated version that will lead beginners to good routines faster.

In 2018, when I dedicated I had a pretty rough time making a schedule myself, first I followed strictly the "Spiritual Warfare Training Program for Zevists" which is honestly not suitable for everyone, it lacks lots of details. And then I did the 40 days program which is way better but lacks the 6th chakra opening and got me really really confused at the time.

I believe that there should be a meditation section strictly for the new dedicated or novices which covers the daily must-do meditations, a checklist tasks such as opening the chakras to give them a sense of satisfaction in their routine and Ritual info, which let's say redirects the user to a sermon about the importance and effect of the Ritual's, how do they work and why are we doing them.

The idea is to make the freshly dedicated Zevists have an idea about how a routine should work quicker than browsing through 100+ pages, which I also approve because that's how you deepen information. But there should be a quickstart guide somewhere.

#4

I think our search bar needs a lot of work. It's not nearly as intuitive as other search engines, even on sites like reddit, to find what you're actually looking for. The default search settings rarely get the results I'd actually want, and I find it easier to just end up asking for solutions by making a new post.

There's no options to sort search result by most views or engagements and titles, which would help people find the the discussions with the most info, but even that isn't always great since that can be a lot of reading. It feels like it shouldn't be this difficult to find answers to questions that have been answered here, but with no way of rating posts (which I understand why they can't be) that also means no way of making it easier to find very good sources of information and great posts by other users here.

I don't know or have the perfect solution, but at the very least more options for the search engine would be a great improvement.

#5
ramses13th wrote:

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I second this, it would have been easier for me to get started if things were a bit more streamlined. I think also having a branching guide option would help too. Could have meditations, workings, and yoga, be in separate branches, when someone becomes comfortable with the category start with, they can include the others when they feel ready.

serpentwalker666
#6

A program or system should be put in place for Zevists who would like to work with you High Priest Cobra, and other members who are advanced enough, to assist in research and reestablishing more occult information and knowledge.

Certain "tests" should be done to determine if one is "ready" and if not. Along with a step procedure for working towards this point.

This would work to weed out potential infiltration, and people who aren't cut for this as well.

This would then be tested thoroughly and then put into circulation after rigorous and careful procedure.

An example is the Ancient Greek Kabbalah, methods for achieving very advanced siddhis, a guide for working towards them, the rest of the magnum opus steps etc.

I have been deeply longing for such a process or procedure to be put in place, to benefit our people.

But I understand this is an enormous undertaking.

The Gods do indeed share meditations, occult knowledge, information regarding science, mathematics, and highly advanced technology ,but I feel strongly some sort of procedure should be put in place so this can be done on a bigger scale, to gradually help with there being less of a load on you. And we Zevists work to do our part in this.

#7

Perhaps there can be a glossary of commonly used terms within our spirituality and astrology?
Not everyone is going to know what cusp or nodes are in astrology.

#8
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Real unity

EnkiUK56Edited
#9

Super HPZM

Needed bro.

Tyler Tekton [NG]
#10

I'm writing this very late, but this is what comes to my mind if I have more to add I'll add later.

*mentioned already by other members

the removal of this domain from Temple of Zeus url link structure '/https://templeofzeus.org/' angelfire is a blacklist site on many alternative sites, but not templeofzeus.org could be templeofzeus.org/empire/serpentis666/Satan.html This is a lot of work I know.

I'd like to be able to share templeofzeus.org sometimes as a white page. or when i click a link while white paged, it stays white paged.

higher resolution of some of the graphics on the website.

the links list to be revamped, added to, and screened for links that are no longer worthy, examples of tikaboo come to mind. (company change)

*I think we definitely need to be on top of delegating of important tasks openly more so, like how we do with translations, some which come to mind are video creation, meme making, text to audio files, proof reading, security tasks such as one of which comes to mind is downloading all links/downloads from all users, including my links and having one of our cybersecurity experts analyze for any malware/spyware, i speculate this would entail one looking at the raw code and seeing anything out of line, just running it through virus total is not enough if it's something new. I don't think anyone whom we trust would be on here infecting us, but the possibility has come across my mind several times that any number of these servers could be bribed to allow for tampering of files, or by other unknown means such as an already infected machine.

*a newer forum, with better search functions and better aesthetics and options, and I like the JG system but maybe more levels of Heirarchy, some with less resposibilitly others as a pathward forward into doing more, etc. HP/HPS > JG > ? > ? > Tasker > Seasoned Warrior > Member > New Member, maybe this is unnecessary

Criticism is really hard. let me sleep on this

Soaring Eagle 666
#11
SATchives wrote:

the removal of this domain from Temple of Zeus url link structure '/https://templeofzeus.org/' angelfire is a blacklist site on many alternative sites, but not templeofzeus.org could be templeofzeus.org/empire/serpentis666/Satan.html This is a lot of work I know.

That is very possible. It would not be hard, since I've already written software that can automatically rewrite links in every page according to a replacement pattern. I would then add a redirect to keep all the old links working, and point them to the new ones.

When I restructured and restored the site a little over a year ago, the only reason I kept the "https://templeofzeus.org/" was for sentimental reasons. I didn't give it much thought. But you have a good point. Put simply, there isn't room for "angels" in the ToZ. :lol:

Soaring Eagle 666
#12

I will write one criticism for myself.

The ToZ Search engine for the main site should be improved to show the piece of matched text in each page, like Google does.

That requires more complex logic, but it's actually a lot easier than writing a huge engine like Google. Because the entire ToZ site is only a few hundred megabytes of text, it can be kept entirely in RAM the whole time for lightning fast access without all the hassle of disk-based data structures.

This may have to wait a while, as I catch up on more important projects, but at least now it's noted in this thread.

MercuryWisdomLead Translator
#13
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

My criticism and one of the biggest reasons I am not very active on the forums as I used to be.

Is the quality of posts. I usually read the most active topics but for sometime now, the trashiest, most time-wasting and toxic posts that garner attention goes to the top. This is not a good algorithm for trying to find spiritual info and wisdom.

What I do to offset this is reading the recent posts and replies of members that I highly-trust I will learn something new especially brother NakedPluto but also Lydia, VoE, Shadowkat, Blitz, etc. But this is not very efficient as a community.

We have to find a way to better move quality and informative posts to the top. (Other than announcements.)

Also, there should be a system in place if we can't ban some low quality and trash drama posts at least get them to the very bottom of the forums where they get zero attention and doesn't distract us from our spiritual growth.

#14
HP. Zevios Metathronos wrote:

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

We've given you our criticism. We aren't interested in going over this for years as others have.

#15

I had a message all typed out but it's gone. Zevios. I ask you not presume to my potential nor my contributions, I won't pretend to know how you have played a part or the work you have attributed. The ToZ says you shouldn't reveal your connection to certain Gods or share spiritual awakening with just anyone. You are one of my Elders, you have more experience and I have a feeling that you have some insight. Test me? Question me? As a son of Satan I welcome it that I might grow. Inanna, Lilith, Sorath, Asmodeus, Dumuzid, Azazel, Thoth. By the Gods I want to know. The meaning behind my previous lives and understand my place. Not to wonder why or how I could be someone with such a place to begin with. With Respect and consideration. I hope to hear from you soon.

#16

The Library of Thoth needs to be organized by topic instead of by alphabetical order. It's very annoying, especially when you're trying to search for a PDF that you know what was about but don't remember its name.

The ToZ website needs to be made more newbie-friendly. Like having a sort of walkthrough for new people: What to read first, how to proceed, what meditations or other things to do and a FAQ or guide for new people. Also remove the false info about them being in the order of "angels" or "seraphim" on the Gods' descriptions because it confuses many people.

There needs to be a subforum for general discussion about money/relationships or anything that concerns our daily non-spiritual life, since there are many posts about those topics by people asking for advice.

#17

Now will really be a great time to read about valeferon

High Priestess Lydia Coventina
#18
ramses13th wrote:

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I believe that there should be a meditation section strictly for the new dedicated or novices which covers the daily must-do meditations, a checklist tasks such as opening the chakras to give them a sense of satisfaction in their routine and Ritual info, which let's say redirects the user to a sermon about the importance and effect of the Ritual's, how do they work and why are we doing them.

The idea is to make the freshly dedicated Zevism have an idea about how a routine should work quicker than browsing through 100+ pages, which I also approve because that's how you deepen information. But there should be a quickstart guide somewhere.

I agree. When I was new, I didn't know we were supposed to clean our auras daily, so I only did it a few times a week. Lol. Same with AoP, few times a week, for the first 3-4 months of dedicating.

Tying in with this, it should be understood that internet forums are not for everyone. I was very reluctant to join the groups, I only did after 3 months due to the advice of my Guardian, but not every new person can get direct guidance from their GD. So things should be clearly organized in the ToZ itself, without expecting new members to join the forum to learn further info, such as daily cleaning and AoP.

I'd like to see a section devoted to ideas for magick workings, to give new members (and more experienced ones too) ideas for workings, with some info for figuring out the start date, affirmations, etc.

#19

criticism? mmm maybay allert before a Ritual start... 2/3 days before write all things: From day X to Y we do the ritual A,B,C.
criticism angaist bad luck? Yes i lost the email of my original account.
but for the rest...my life improve a lot, i love Father Zeus, I love the gods, and i never say how much thanks to all gods and everyone here...normal user and HP ^^

Henu the GreatActive Helper
#20

The forums are a mess.

We have several different subjects in one main category in the English section. I would imagine the situation is not much better in other communities. All the useful spiritual info and topics for guidance are next to less useful posts, outright blasphemy, usual trolling tirades, news articles, and so on and so forth. I believe there is an ongoing effort to gather all the useful material into one file. This would have been avoided if there was one section for spiritual info and counseling from the get-go or at least updated at some point, and other sections for news, off-topic, and so on.

I would welcome an initiative to reorganize topics. But first alternative sections would have to be created and perhaps other modifications made for this platform.

There was mention of requesting for adding additional visible markers for the hierarchy. I would propose two levels below JGs, those being Librarians, and Library assistants. Librarians would be those who have contributed considerably and consistently over time to the ToZ and Library assistants would be those who have consistently contributed for the benefit of the community. This would give a clearer picture to people who they are talking to as those who handle more material also might know and understand a bit more than those who do not. This, however, is not something very urgent or perhaps needed at all, but seeing that this pops up here and there, there might be something to this idea.

Ài GōngLead Translator
#21
Henu the Great wrote:

The forums are a mess.

I'd say a way to remove the English announcements from the non-English sub-forums' upbars - some new people click the pages and are like wtf, it's all in English - and give a higher limit of topics per-page because the fixed important topics in the sub-forums reached their limits and they are covering the new topics by everyday users.