Cfecit said:
Dahaarkan said:
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WiseDragon said:
The reality of the whole argument is that both sides have good points, and that both sides are...CORRECT. But the times on where one is correct are circumstancial. There is no "OneWay To Go" here.
The situation is however we Satanists are on a different level of ability, and should have greater aims, and therefore, we may require to take an unconventional route, and screw what the mob does. Not everyone can do spiritual warfare against the enemy. Very few people can and are willing to do this.
Do not worry about Italy. It is not going extinct if a poor Satanist from the suburbs runs to another place in Italy or in Switzeland or Sweden to avoid poverty and retaliation. Another Italian will be born coincidentally, and one more person will take their place. On the other hand, if a Satanist goes under, because of our limited value as souls, there are gaps that cannot be replaced.
To be blunt, normal people can always be replaced by normal people. By the logic of sheer "Nationalism", Tesla shouldn't go to the United States, and should have stayed to be a chicken farmer priest as his dad wanted him to become, to serve "Mother Serbia" by "Not making enough money" and all the rest of the arguments that you posed, some of which are very correct, and others not well thought through, at all.
Do not tie Satan into this that you try to project. The Gods have a larger time perspective and many "Nations" to them are quite trivial, 300, 200 or 120 years of "Founded Nations" mean nothing. On the contrary, the races living in these nations, or sub races, do mean something, but still, the highest importance is to keep the White seed going and preserve what is already manifested.
Racial identity conflates with the National Identity when a state is seized by jews, or foreigners. Then after a point one may have to become a traitor to their "National Identity". Hitler is considered by the present day brainwashed army "Germany's Accident" or "Evil Dictator", but Hitler was the true spirit of the Germanic and as a result the White people. Many "Nationalists" hated Hitler as they saw him as an "Austrian" and therefore an "Infiltrator" into Germany.
When they put nogs in Italy and give them passports, and force upon you that "THESE ARE YOUR NATIONAL ITALIAN BROTHERS" and you will slave with a yoke to pay them with your taxes so they can get free houses, moralism in this case detailing the "Nation" becomes real hard. This is why Italians are mad in the first place. Because Italy is a powerful state based on RACE and also ITALIAN National identity, which in the case of Italy, is race related, Italians are reacting powerfully against the invasion.
Italy, is for the most part, has a racial/ethnic character, strongly to this day. In that regard, to support Italy and want to stay in, makes total sense, as by supporting Italy you actually do stand a chance for the Italian people themselves.
Nationalistic explanations cannot by definition deal with the above. Nations, founded upon constitutions and laws, are very recent creations. Italy for example clearly has many subraces, and many people, who came together and later formed the National Italy, the unified Italy. Before this, people were essentially divided in the Italian peninsula in Ducats, or other prior forms of government, extending all the way back to the roots of the race.
And even today, in Italy, I see a clear Italian people, but this is because, people actually did come together, and yes, in some cases, to create the present day Italian, this involved many people from the Ducats or the previous forms of government, coming together, or even mating. This happened a lot of time ago, obviously, but this is the case. But it does not matter as Italian later, is NOT only a NATIONAL identity, but a RACIAL identity. Italy is a rare example of a National/Racial based state. Not all countries are like this. Brazil is a counter example of the above.
Brazillian is a National Identity, under which it has Whites, Blacks and mixed people. Still, Brazillian is a very valid NATIONAL identity, but the RACIAL parameter of said identity, is that there are many races in Brazil.
The empty block in a nation of just another irrelevant person in this nation, can be replaced with yet another coincidental birth that will happen in said nation, replenishing the race again. It will have the same blood, the same language, the same traditions, what have you, so a people does not get lost just by a couple SS moving around or in another country, for reasons that in most cases are beyond any form of morality involved. Generalized morals are dysfunctional here.
Satanists cannot be replaced by coincidental births going around, so yes, our Satanists, if you are having extensive problems that are beyond fixing, if you are persecuted, if you need to move to advance, improve, or become rich, and then give back that to Satan's agenda and the agenda of the race, do it and go for it.
We are not the majority guys, wake up. We are an almost non existent [by numbers, not by power] and small group in contrast to the goyim that live in the nations and walk their way downwards into damnation. The same rules cannot apply between people or conditions. If you find yourself in danger, in shambles, persecuted, pack the fuck up, go away, and stay alive for Satan, and do your best to keep the war to save your race going. While this shouldn't be the "Desired" outcome, life has forces at work which are beyond damp morals. There will be casualties, and special fighting units [US WHO ARE EDUCATED AND CAN HELP OUR PEOPLE] need to live. Live to fight another day.
Migration is as good as the reasons behind it, and as the morals and aims of a person doing it. Satanists by definition, have sounder morality, and one would believe, better reasons to be in a place than anyone else. HPS Shannon couldn't help her people from most African countries. I could go on and on with examples.
Nationalistic moralism after a point is empty. In America to be American today means to be a random foreign race invader that wants to burn the constitution, or to want to go to die for jews in Israel. That type of "Nationalism" and "Muh people" is just flat out dumb, and in contrast with natural logic.
The masses themselves maintain their national identity, sometimes stronger, sometimes less. Two random people can replicate the already existing national identity of a nation. It's not hard. What the masses cannot replicate is individuals who make something great to happen. Two random people can always give birth to two more random people. But not everyone can give birth with certainty to a Satanist, Hitler, or anyone else.
Now people here may not be all of the same amount of ability or power, but we all have the same purpose. Therefore the parameters to save one's self, always be safe, and improve one's condition, come into play. For example, Cfeicit, you say that one could have a business in another country. But at the same rate, this by Nationalist standards is considered "Immoral internationalism". A dumber person would even argue that one is becoming an "International Capitalist", and the dumb arguments would have no end.
Let us not be dumb fucks and pseudomoralists now.
Rook, "National" means Ethnic in literal translation. Ethnic which is a homeric term, which later became "Nation", literally meaning ethnos or a species of people, means tribe. The National Socialists had Arminius as a symbol, taught in public schools all the time, as a rolemodel for children. What Arminius did was to be a traitor to National Identity. A "Nationalist" country would never teach children to emulate Arminius, as Arminius was a TRAITOR to his "National" identity of the Roman empire. Arminius was a Racial German general of the Roman empire, who backstabbed the jew-ruled at the time Roman empire to join the native German folk to free itself, and dealt devastation to the "Romans". Arminius was of German blood and was an abducted slave, who turned into the Roman Empire to protect his folk. He was a "Traitor" to national identity, but a hero of racial identity. This is because National Identity, after a point, if a Nation becomes a toilet, is only a piece of paper, and jew written gibberish laws.
Nations are meant to represent races, a people of common origin. If America, and I do my best in my ability for none of this to ever happen, at one point has 20% White people, then people should flee or betray it. This is a no question. The state has been seized and taken over by foreign elements, and American Identity will become an asswipe, which will only then be transformed into 3rd world Communism that will still be named "United States". Jefferson and Franklin will become "White oppressive criminals", the list goes.
Race is above "National Identity". Actually, that is the teaching of National Socialism, that race is superior to other values. Hitler was not a "Nationalist". If he was a Nationalist you would see his policies would be stupid. He surrounded himself with the best Whites as a first measure of things. Hess was born in Alexandria, he was of Greek descent. Goerring married a woman of Greek descent, because she was Aryan. Hitler himself was an illegal migrant when he crossed over in Austria and he had deportation problems and citizenship problems in more than one occassions. These were ironed out later, so that Hitler could actually take part in elections.
Nations, countries, locales, have went up, and have went down, and some have went extinct. What remains behind is the seed of a people. We have lost many empires and the "Nationality" that goes with it.
Indeed, at this point, and the situation as to how Satanists are awake and aware of the greater agenda, Satan may actually escort, in the midst of all the shits that invade Europe, valuable people into Europe, or elsewhere, and give them a better life, with the awareness to set the world, nations, and races straight in the future. This cannot happen if his people are dead, broke, uneducated, or die in revolutionary twilight.
The situation is real dire now. If a German blonde girl is to end up with a monkey predator who will give her 8 non Germanic kids with "German Citizenship", a Czech, a Swede, or whomever else really, should go in, and by moral duty, find a White woman, despite the boundaries of "Nationality", and have White Children. The rest is fine details. Do not worry, the amount of people that can, or would do that, is astrologically less than 1 in 24, based on the appropriate astrological aspects. The rest of 23 people will always be in their own nation, replicate their subrace and culture, and our White race, and the sub races, are going to live. The striking majority of people do not even last to go abroad more than a few years, nor they plan to stay in places forever.
We are under invasion and our rules have to adjust. We have to be clever. We have to be open minded and adaptable.
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