Question #1300: Why Do Our Gods Fight Each Other In Mythology?

[AskSatanOperator]

In Indo European Paganism there are many myths about our Gods fighting each other. Aesir vs Vanir, Zeus vs Prometheus, Perun vs Veles, etc.

But why would we worship multiple Gods who hate each other? Why would one God tolerate someone giving an offering to an opposing God?

Many more mainstream Pagans, such as Varg Vikernes, or Survive The Jive, simply write off the Pagan Gods as being metaphors, or forces of nature, with their conflicts simply being allegories. According to their view, any conflicts between the Gods are not serious, because the Gods are not as real as the Abrahamic God is to Abrahamicists.

Yet Joy of Satan does not have such a doctrine on mythology. Our Gods are REAL beings, with REAL relationships and goals. Therefore logically the enemies of our Gods are the Jewish Elohim, not eachbother. Joy of Satan is the only group I have come across that preaches a version of Paganism that actually makes sense.

So why do these myths exist? Mainstream historians, who do not know anything about spirituality, simply assume that this is what ancient people believed, that their Gods were real (which they indeed did) and that they tolerated the worshipping of other Gods, yet they themselves were fighting each other, how does that make sense? What kind of pantheon of Gods hate each other?

The conclusion I have come to is that these myths never existed to the Pagans, at least not in the form we have today that was "preserved" by Christian monks. What I suspect is that the early Christian missionaries simply took the Pagan Gods as characters, and rewrote our mythology to be a parallel with the Bible (to make conversion easy perhaps). For example the conflict between Zeus and Prometheus is very clearly an allegory of Yahweh and Satan, yet Zeus is not Yahweh, he is a brother of Satan, Jews simply rewrote their mythology using our Gods as characters. This is what I suspect at least.

Anyways, my question is simply what are these myths and why do we have them?

 

[Virael_]

It has been said that de mythological vice should not be taken as true, as they refer to spiritual allegories.

There was a post by HPHC on this, look it up on the forums.

To give you an example, when we talk about rape, we do not mean literal rape but the attempt to unite two opposing energies, as Venus and Mars can be.

 

[nebu]

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=79862

 

[Shadowmage]

But why would we worship multiple Gods who hate each other? Why would one God tolerate someone giving an offering to an opposing God?

We don't "worship" the Gods and they don't hate each other, their stories are allegories for spiritual things or ways of transforming yourself. To be a SS you need to think in a more esoteric way than simply take the stories of the Gods at face value. The Gods are not beings that demand to be worshiped, but guides to our advancement.

Also the stories have not been rewritten, as many of them can be found in clay tablets dating at least since 2,000 BCE (see the stories of the Sumerian Gods in Sumerian tablets that have been discorverd recently so no xian had the time to rewrite them, they do contain the same themes such as Enki and Enlil fighting eachother, even though Enki and Enlil are Satan and Beelzebub and those who communicate with them know they have no enmity against eachother, their stories are just allegories).

 

[Karnonnos]

Much of mythology symbolises contrasting energies, processes and various facets of what the soul has to go through to approach immortality, or other things that relate to spiritual development. Others represent facets of a real God that are far too complex to just put into one 'God' for humans, such as Aphrodite (including the two forms of Aphrodite, Pandemos and Ourania) vs Artemis vs Demeter vs Athena. These names in themselves represent important allegories.

The story of Medea for example shows what happens when someone obtains the Golden Fleece (light body) like Jason did after fighting the dragon, yet did not work on this Light Body (becoming completely complacent then dumping Medea for the princess of Corinth) and therefore is completely unready for the 'higher mind' (represented as Medea being a foreigner and inaccessible) to incarnate inside them, wasting the procreative force (hence Medea's slaughter of the children). The process botched altogether, Medea goes back to her real powerful source (Helios) and Jason is cursed by Hera (Hera herself represents important facets of the soul attainment).

Our mythologies are a map of the soul and often serve as a mnemonic. They cannot be told in a simplistic black and white LOTR, Marvel or Star Wars type of way we were brought up with (these kinds of stories are subconsciously modelled on the bible and very popular among the populace now, who can't handle nuance or complexity in media), nor are they defined by woke criteria with an objective of subversion or a need to combat 'social evils'.

For a lot of people, this means the myths don't really 'make sense' or come across as shockingly amoral. But how can you portray contrasting, unwanted or deadly co-mingling energies in the process of immortality without representing this as rape? No one in Ancient Greece thought some moron 2,000 years later would need a trigger warning.

Jewish dogshit and fables are partially ripped off and butchered, some remodelled to fit allegories of the jewish soul, but a lot of it is just a bunch of 'good vs evil' morality tales for the spiritual or genetic hygiene of jews. Some, such as the jewish fable of Sarah, are practically REVERSED from the Gentile mythologies it rips off.

 

[Kavya Shukra]

In Indo European Paganism there are many myths about our Gods fighting each other. Aesir vs Vanir, Zeus vs Prometheus, Perun vs Veles, etc.

But why would we worship multiple Gods who hate each other? Why would one God tolerate someone giving an offering to an opposing God?

Many more mainstream Pagans, such as Varg Vikernes, or Survive The Jive, simply write off the Pagan Gods as being metaphors, or forces of nature, with their conflicts simply being allegories. According to their view, any conflicts between the Gods are not serious, because the Gods are not as real as the Abrahamic God is to Abrahamicists.

Yet Joy of Satan does not have such a doctrine on mythology. Our Gods are REAL beings, with REAL relationships and goals. Therefore logically the enemies of our Gods are the Jewish Elohim, not eachbother. Joy of Satan is the only group I have come across that preaches a version of Paganism that actually makes sense.

So why do these myths exist? Mainstream historians, who do not know anything about spirituality, simply assume that this is what ancient people believed, that their Gods were real (which they indeed did) and that they tolerated the worshipping of other Gods, yet they themselves were fighting each other, how does that make sense? What kind of pantheon of Gods hate each other?

The conclusion I have come to is that these myths never existed to the Pagans, at least not in the form we have today that was "preserved" by Christian monks. What I suspect is that the early Christian missionaries simply took the Pagan Gods as characters, and rewrote our mythology to be a parallel with the Bible (to make conversion easy perhaps). For example the conflict between Zeus and Prometheus is very clearly an allegory of Yahweh and Satan, yet Zeus is not Yahweh, he is a brother of Satan, Jews simply rewrote their mythology using our Gods as characters. This is what I suspect at least.

Anyways, my question is simply what are these myths and why do we have them?

Most myths that have gods "fighting each other" usually is symbolized by forces of nature or astrological energies, or cautionary tales.

For example, Mars and Athena opposing each other is what happens when your Mars energy is out of control and is unable to listen to reason, being brash, reckless and unable to think clearly. You need both the male, strong, direct action oriented side of the brain, and the female cool, creative and emotionally focused side of the brain to function properly.

Set killing Osiris is an example of explaining Fall season and Winter, when life "dies" only to be born again by Spring (as Isis brought Osiris back from the dead).

Most of these "wars" and "fights" between gods are usually explaining what happens when there is excess of a certain type of energy, such as anger, sadness, etc. creating unbalance and chaos.

Or things like fire and water. Naturally opposing each other. Fire and grass, causing destruction and loss of life. Just an example.

 

[SyraS_666]

These are spiritual and energetic allegories for elevating, transforming the soul and not to be taken literally.
They were not told to amuse the children at a campfire.
Also some of these texts have been altered/corrupted by the enemy and taken out of context.

"Sex, Rape And Murder In Mythology":
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=79862