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Along with a ridiculous amount of internet censorship and communism in the country, there is actually a class of Chinese comics (manhua) which depict a totally different world. These are commonly known as "cultivator" comics. I'm actually surprised by what is depicted in these.

These are nothing like what anyone would expect to come out of a country which governs on communism. These comics depict a world where strength rules all. A world where power is everything. A world where people are not "equal" and their power determines their status in society. The weak are not catered to by being "kind" nor is there any compensation for the weak. These don't depict a distraught dystopia where the powerful are separated from the weak like in some dystopian movies, but rather a world where the powerful are respected and hold high status. The weak can become strong if they want their will and earn respect. The plot is centered around spiritual concepts. The characters are called "cultivators" who essentially meditate to increase their powers. They cultivate chi or some variant. They cultivate (meditate) for hundreds of years and increase their powers. They do this with meditations. The higher one's powers are, the more abilities the character has very much like "siddhis". The concept of soul is in all of these. There are concepts of rebirth, past life memories, karma, internal energy, chi, and a lot of other spiritual concepts. Almost all of them depict characters with abilities like telepathy. A lot of these comics have some variants of remote viewing and astral travel. Characters live extremely long lives (unless they are killed) and really powerful ones could also be immortals. Items/weapons etc need to be "refined" which is pretty much the same concept as cleaning a new magickal prop/talisman to get rid of negative energies. A lot of characters remember their past lives and use their knowledge to advance. And a lot more.

It's surprising that these aren't banned. At lease people in China china still have some concepts of spirituality much like a lot of eastern countries. Maybe people can read these and realize the fuck kind of a world Jinping in trying to push down their throats. Members who are into anime/manga here should give one of these manhua a try.
 
स त न म said:
Along with a ridiculous amount of internet censorship and communism in the country, there is actually a class of Chinese comics (manhua) which depict a totally different world. These are commonly known as "cultivator" comics. I'm actually surprised by what is depicted in these.

These are nothing like what anyone would expect to come out of a country which governs on communism. These comics depict a world where strength rules all. A world where power is everything. A world where people are not "equal" and their power determines their status in society. The weak are not catered to by being "kind" nor is there any compensation for the weak. These don't depict a distraught dystopia where the powerful are separated from the weak like in some dystopian movies, but rather a world where the powerful are respected and hold high status. The weak can become strong if they want their will and earn respect. The plot is centered around spiritual concepts. The characters are called "cultivators" who essentially meditate to increase their powers. They cultivate chi or some variant. They cultivate (meditate) for hundreds of years and increase their powers. They do this with meditations. The higher one's powers are, the more abilities the character has very much like "siddhis". The concept of soul is in all of these. There are concepts of rebirth, past life memories, karma, internal energy, chi, and a lot of other spiritual concepts. Almost all of them depict characters with abilities like telepathy. A lot of these comics have some variants of remote viewing and astral travel. Characters live extremely long lives (unless they are killed) and really powerful ones could also be immortals. Items/weapons etc need to be "refined" which is pretty much the same concept as cleaning a new magickal prop/talisman to get rid of negative energies. A lot of characters remember their past lives and use their knowledge to advance. And a lot more.

It's surprising that these aren't banned. At lease people in China china still have some concepts of spirituality much like a lot of eastern countries. Maybe people can read these and realize the fuck kind of a world Jinping in trying to push down their throats. Members who are into anime/manga here should give one of these manhua a try.
Thats pretty cool
 
Junior, welcome to the Advancement Sect. Your cultivation journey is budding in its early stages. You have to have your mind firm in this road of cultivation. Right now, you should be focused on cultivating your Qi and have a solid foundation in it to reach the foundation establishment stage. Otherwise, forget about cultivating till Nascent soul stage in your lifetime where you can summon winds as you please, fly and destroy your enemies at the wave of your hand.

Why do we cultivate you ask ? It is of course, to go against the heavens and destroy fate. It is said that a human's actions from birth to its permanent death is all supervised by the heavens or the fate. However, junior are you really satisfied with something that is not you controlling you ? Who are you ? Are you a puppet dancing to the rhythm of the string or are you a brave cultivator rebelling against all that goes against your freedom ?

It has also been said that we humans aren't supposed to live forever. For years, we have watched our friends and lovers continuing their cycle of reincarnation till they exhaust themselves and return to elements. How can we accept that ? How can we bear to part with our family and all the joys of life ? Cultivating for eternal life is something each and every sentient being in this universe have to do at some point in their life. We are not called immortals without reason.
Anyone who says that life gets boring or desensitizing probably couldn't cultivate to immortality themselves and are jealous of those who are immortals. Do not listen to those bitter foxes.

By far the most important reason to cultivate is to protect your family and lovers from the aliens. What's that ?, a pretty surprised look on your face I see, junior. That's right, our planet has been invaded by the enemy aliens millennias ago. Those enemy aliens are called reptilians and greys under whom are filthy degenerated jews who have kept attacking cultivation sects for thousands of years. These cultivation schools were where we were taught the laws of nature and all the knowledge about spirituality. This couldn't be digested by the hooked nose bastards and their jealousy compels them to do all there is to remove us from our roots of human inheritance i.e. spirituality and cultivation knowledge.

It is said that the ancient era was called the golden age of immortals. It was the age where our ancestors did labor to relax themselves, not for work or for gaining produce. Knowledge was aplenty and free. People sowed what they reaped in that age. Advanced cultivators were common and seen roaming the streets of ancient civilization. Cultivation schools were also common where the basic requirement to enter them was to move an object with your mind. The school of knowledge didn't reject anyone regardless of their status and whether poor or rich. However, it all changed when the enemy attacked.

This so called heaven's will is nothing but a veil devised by those filthy and disgusting jews designed to
hamper each and every living cultivator there is to advance spiritually. Do not make the grave mistake of thinking that it is something natural or from mother Earth. It is from the enemy aliens who fear us of our great power. Our fight is to permanently lift it, destroy it and make it devoid of any and all power and influence.

If we don't fight them, they will come and take all that is ours. You give an inch and they take a mile. Do not even think about compromising with these spawns of degradation. You are not fit to be called a cultivator if you don't fight against the common enemy of the cultivation alliance. Anyone who fights them bravely is awarded with many spiritual gifts which far triumph any divine pills, magic tools or cultivation manuals.

Therefore, come junior, with fellow cultivators by your side, let us stomp these hideous hooked nosed gross bearded bastards who dare hinder us from immortality and most importantly the path of endless advancement.

Seriously speaking, It is pretty easy to get addicted to these manhuas. One thing I noticed is that these concepts of cultivation and immortality is allowed however the moment any author says a single negative word about their country, such a book is immediately banned without exception and regardless of popularity. In one of the novels, What the author did is it made one of the villains originating from China and such a fact completely pissed the CCP and it banned the book.

This is interesting to me and I can't help but connect it with astral. If people read the book, they would think China bad and what not. And from China they would think of CCP ? Maybe this could damage the CCP in astral which they fear with all their being ?. Of course, this is just an hypothesis. If this hypothesis is true, then it would seem to be that these communist bastards are scared shitless of their own citizen and their tight show of authority is nothing but an act behind which lies endless fear.

They also can't tolerate any books which promotes about going against the system. Like there was a novel called which talked about how joining an organization and being loyal to a certain 'contribution points system' is an endless vicious cycles and that its a swamp.

You will never get the rare valuable immortal resources and that such a system manipulates human psychology in such a way that the most valuable resource gained with the highest contribution points bears a lot of weight and importance to the victim but in truth the said resource is of average value and deigned average in worth by the elites enjoyed by them aplenty. This lowers the value of a certain thing in people's mind and they get excited about something average just because it ranks high in contribution point while the truly valuable resources are controlled by these elites who issued such a "Contribution point system" in the first place.

The protagonist also kept pissing off the base of the enemy(main base of the CCP) and made them suffer endless losses. This might also be one of the reasons for banning the book.

On a serious note, move with caution. These novels promote immortality and what not but they make it seem impossible to attain. Like you will hear about realms after realms of cultivation but never true immortality. You could cultivate thousands, ten thousands or millions of years but still can't gain true immortality with endless lifespan. With every realm you advance, you only gain hundreds of years of lifespan and have to break through to the next realm within this newly gained limited lifespan. It becomes an endless vicious cycle. This manipulates the psychology of the common people in that they start affirming in their mind that immortality is impossible or difficult to gain. This is an enemy tactic and an attack on the human psychology, a psychological warfare. In truth and in reality, immortality is definitively achieved and while it may take some more time to achieve than others, it definitely doesn't take thousands and thousands of years.

Another thing that I noticed is that these cultivation novels depict cultivators as cruel and cold killing machines who only think about infighting to snatch valuable immortal resources. Friends easily turn on their allies for resources and there is plenty of infighting between sects. In these novels, most others cultivators only move for their interests and easily slaughter without remorse for resources. This again, feels like an enemy tactic making the common mind think that people who use magic and fly are cruel and subconsciously get repulsed to such kind of concepts. This manipulates the sub conscious to think that magick is bad and people who use magick are also bad which directly affects the subconscious mind. And isn't subsconscious mind related to astral ?

The mortals are treated as ants by the cultivators, easily killed by their snorts and 'hmphs'. They don't have much value and are treated as resources by the 'Demonic sects' to cultivate their filthy techniques and what not. You will also notice that the bad sects aren't called "Evil Sects" or any other "Bad sect" but "Demonic Sects".

Also if you look at the quality of these cultivation novels, you will realize that most of them are trash. It is hard to find good quality cultivation novels. It is easily filled with brain numbing cliques such as offending the young master, jade beauties and what not. If you consume cabbage everyday, you become like a cabbage. Such novels after some point in time do not offer any literary or knowledgeable values.

Here are some of the concepts I have found to be attacks, disgusting or misdirection in these novels :

1. Demonic sects are vilified. It is the Demonic sects that commit horrible and atrocious deeds, definitely not the pure and noble righteous sects who lynch the common people with open arms. They also depict demons as something to be subjugated, controlled or killed. This is an attack against Satan and his demons. Though such an attack isn't limited to this novel.

Example - Out of 10 cultivation novels, 9 will have such slander against Demons. Rarely will you find a novel where demons are cool or painted as the good guys, maybe none.
Warlock of the magus world and Demon's diary. The former directly tries to slander the gods by their name and the mc literally cultivates a 'cube' in his early stages.

2. Using aphrodisiacs that accidentally got eaten by the girl which was definitely not intended by the pure and humble main lead which led to forced sex or manipulated sex. Using aphrodisiacs is also used a pretext for rape. In some novels the main heroine is injured and the protagonist decides that sex is the answer and thus commits rape.
Example - ATG (Against the Gods)

3. These novels are also obsessed with petite 13 year or 15 year old looking heroines who in truth are thousands of years of old. This promotes pedophilia to the mass mind.
Example - Any trash tier garbage novels.

4. In some trash novels, women with heaven defying spirit roots(innate spiritual talent) are forcefully abducted or lured into being an furnace for the main protagonist or some other characters.
Example - Renegade immortal, Demon's Diary.

5. You will find plenty of nationality in these novels. The main characters gets a hard on for his communist nation and does things which makes their communist nation proud. Of course it won't be blatant but disguised and subtle. You will see that the "Western" cultivators are bad and villains and people from far East(Japan) are also villains. Japanese are hated a lot by the way.

6. One of the gravest misdirection built into such books is the whole concept of cultivation. In these books, its always cultivation of technique, cultivation of divine treasure, cultivation of dao and cultivation of each and everything there is except the cultivation of self. It is never about the cultivation of self and the powers of mind in these novels. To advance and move into the next realm, you have to get the divine flower of jade lotus to get into the next realm or get divinie treasure of thousand nirvana to simulate your spiritual qi for breaking through. Its always get x to move to y realm.

However, to this day, I have read not a single book which specially emphasizes on the cultivation of soul and the powers of mind. Its always about resources. Without resources, forget about cultivation. When in truth any one from any walk of life can cultivate their soul regardless of talent and no physical resources is needed. Things like bowl of water, mirrors, candles can be afforded by anyone and most of these are mostly used in intermediate or advanced stages except when first dedicating.

Perhaps, the concept of "No resource, No cultivation" or suppressing the knowledge that "Anyone can cultivate regardless of resources or talent" is the main purpose of allowing these books to be circulated by the enemy.

7. It is said that only one mortal out of one hundred thousand others can have the spiritual affinity to cultivate. Even then, his/her talent is probably poor and probably can't achieve much. Only those who are one in a million can cultivate with higher potential and speed. This again imprints into the mass mind that magic is something extremely rare and only few can cultivate. If you ask the average Joe "Can you do magic ?" He will respond with " Are you an idiot ? There's no magic in this world"
However, still, deep in his mind, it has been imprinted that magic is something extremely rare even though he just said that there's no magic in this world. What's imprinted in his subconscious could manifest in astral or affect it.
Wow, as I continue listing out, even I am surprised by the numbers of attacks onto humanity just in a single genre.

8. Cultivation is depicted to be pursuit that comes packaged with loneliness and desolateness. To move onto a higher realm, you have to return to your roots of being a caveman and sit in the same place in a cave for tens of thousands of years. Only then can you advance into the next stage. Forget about meeting with your friends and family during this period. Having sex is a no-no as it will exhaust your 'yang' energy much needed to break through into the next realm, lol.

That said, there are some good merits to these cultivation novels. The comprehension of knowledge which they simple dub as 'dao'. Comprehending philosophical concepts and applying it to increase their power is something I am fond of. At least it promotes the gaining of knowledge.
My favorite thing about it is going against the heavens or going against anything that tries to exert control over you. Rebellion against the fate and what not, there's something about it that deeply attracts me.

I read about HP Cobra's sermon on how facebook, instagram, youtube etc are all tools for psychological warfare. The algorithm is designed such that one gets lost in it and wastes a lot of time. Time which could be used for waking up and spirtitually advancing. I wouldn't put cultivation novels and manhuas past such tools. They have thousands of chapters and plethora of mind numbing content, most of which are garbage or trash not offering any literary or knowledgeable values which wastes a lot of valuable time. Perhaps weeks and months. And for every trash quality cultivation novel you read, 10 of the same same novels is written in the timeframe.

The most important thing to take from this passages of text is that the enemy wouldn't allow such concepts of cultivation and immortality if it didn't benefit them or if it harmed their interests.
 
स त न म said:
Along with a ridiculous amount of internet censorship and communism in the country, there is actually a class of Chinese comics (manhua) which depict a totally different world. These are commonly known as "cultivator" comics. I'm actually surprised by what is depicted in these.

These are nothing like what anyone would expect to come out of a country which governs on communism. These comics depict a world where strength rules all. A world where power is everything. A world where people are not "equal" and their power determines their status in society. The weak are not catered to by being "kind" nor is there any compensation for the weak. These don't depict a distraught dystopia where the powerful are separated from the weak like in some dystopian movies, but rather a world where the powerful are respected and hold high status. The weak can become strong if they want their will and earn respect. The plot is centered around spiritual concepts. The characters are called "cultivators" who essentially meditate to increase their powers. They cultivate chi or some variant. They cultivate (meditate) for hundreds of years and increase their powers. They do this with meditations. The higher one's powers are, the more abilities the character has very much like "siddhis". The concept of soul is in all of these. There are concepts of rebirth, past life memories, karma, internal energy, chi, and a lot of other spiritual concepts. Almost all of them depict characters with abilities like telepathy. A lot of these comics have some variants of remote viewing and astral travel. Characters live extremely long lives (unless they are killed) and really powerful ones could also be immortals. Items/weapons etc need to be "refined" which is pretty much the same concept as cleaning a new magickal prop/talisman to get rid of negative energies. A lot of characters remember their past lives and use their knowledge to advance. And a lot more.

It's surprising that these aren't banned. At lease people in China china still have some concepts of spirituality much like a lot of eastern countries. Maybe people can read these and realize the fuck kind of a world Jinping in trying to push down their throats. Members who are into anime/manga here should give one of these manhua a try.

Actually most of these Chinese fantasy novels, manhua, xianxia and wuxia (though the wuxia's are now a days low-key xianxias) are anti-aristocracy, which I'm sure Jews and commies like. They also low-key promote interracial in that the love interests are always 'whiter than snow and polished jade' whereas the main character is often darker. These novels/comics almost always promote Budhism (which is completely atheistic) opposed to actual spirituality. Often times the only reason characters reincarnate is not due to spiritual training but completely reliant on 'plot armour' for the main character. Overall the conecepts are far too Budhist and ruined as a result. While most times it does encoruage meritocracy often times it just encourages the killing of aristocracy, as though if its evil for a person to get money from their parents and to be able to enjoy their parents fortune, I bet it's something like 'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.' Also the plot is repetitive and trash honestly. You see one you've seen them all.
 
AgniCosmos said:
स त न म said:
Along with a ridiculous amount of internet censorship and communism in the country, there is actually a class of Chinese comics (manhua) which depict a totally different world. These are commonly known as "cultivator" comics. I'm actually surprised by what is depicted in these.

These are nothing like what anyone would expect to come out of a country which governs on communism. These comics depict a world where strength rules all. A world where power is everything. A world where people are not "equal" and their power determines their status in society. The weak are not catered to by being "kind" nor is there any compensation for the weak. These don't depict a distraught dystopia where the powerful are separated from the weak like in some dystopian movies, but rather a world where the powerful are respected and hold high status. The weak can become strong if they want their will and earn respect. The plot is centered around spiritual concepts. The characters are called "cultivators" who essentially meditate to increase their powers. They cultivate chi or some variant. They cultivate (meditate) for hundreds of years and increase their powers. They do this with meditations. The higher one's powers are, the more abilities the character has very much like "siddhis". The concept of soul is in all of these. There are concepts of rebirth, past life memories, karma, internal energy, chi, and a lot of other spiritual concepts. Almost all of them depict characters with abilities like telepathy. A lot of these comics have some variants of remote viewing and astral travel. Characters live extremely long lives (unless they are killed) and really powerful ones could also be immortals. Items/weapons etc need to be "refined" which is pretty much the same concept as cleaning a new magickal prop/talisman to get rid of negative energies. A lot of characters remember their past lives and use their knowledge to advance. And a lot more.

It's surprising that these aren't banned. At lease people in China china still have some concepts of spirituality much like a lot of eastern countries. Maybe people can read these and realize the fuck kind of a world Jinping in trying to push down their throats. Members who are into anime/manga here should give one of these manhua a try.

Actually most of these Chinese fantasy novels, manhua, xianxia and wuxia (though the wuxia's are now a days low-key xianxias) are anti-aristocracy, which I'm sure Jews and commies like. They also low-key promote interracial in that the love interests are always 'whiter than snow and polished jade' whereas the main character is often darker. These novels/comics almost always promote Budhism (which is completely atheistic) opposed to actual spirituality. Often times the only reason characters reincarnate is not due to spiritual training but completely reliant on 'plot armour' for the main character. Overall the conecepts are far too Budhist and ruined as a result. While most times it does encoruage meritocracy often times it just encourages the killing of aristocracy, as though if its evil for a person to get money from their parents and to be able to enjoy their parents fortune, I bet it's something like 'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.' Also the plot is repetitive and trash honestly. You see one you've seen them all.

Yes, a lot of them have similar plots. But not all are anti-aristocracy. The main characters become aristocrats themselves when they empower themselves. It's like one of the main goals of the main characters. Also, I dont think "whiter than snow" or the similar means a white person mixing with others. Most chinese people are light skinned and people with lighter complexion are considered more attractive in a lot of asian countries. Maybe this is because of admiration of white gods in the older times, who knows? But a darker male? Where? Even if it is it's almost never shown to be so dark as indicating a different race. I think it's just to show that the main character is working hard and show that he has tanned perhaps because he doesn't care about his complexion? Also,

AgniCosmos said:
'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.'

Where did you get this from? I have never come across any story like that. It's actually the opposite most times. The main characters end up getting rich and don't give a fuck about the weak. They literally use their wealth to gain more power and use their wealth to empower their family members. Where are you getting all of this from?

As for the buddhist elements, not all of them are like that. And anything even slightly mainstream has enemy influences somewhere. It's because the extent of enemy corruption in the world right now. But that shouldn't take away from the other good elements. And a lot of them don't even have buddhist elements to the extent you have made it seem.

Overall, I believe they are still a good read for entertainment. Of course, there are enemy influences but don't use it as your source of spiritual information lol. Read it for it's good elements.

Try martial peak for example.

Now before I get attacked I must say that yes you will find nonsense in this. For example there is a "demon race" in a couple of arcs. This is stupid and kinda blasphemous. But they have shown three different races who don't mix with each other and live in their own separate territories. Exactly how it should be in the world. Also when they mention "demon race" I also believe that this is due to translation into english.
 
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Here are some of the concepts I have found to be attacks, disgusting or misdirection in these novels :

1. Demonic sects are vilified. It is the Demonic sects that commit horrible and atrocious deeds, definitely not the pure and noble righteous sects who lynch the common people with open arms. They also depict demons as something to be subjugated, controlled or killed. This is an attack against Satan and his demons. Though such an attack isn't limited to this novel.

Example - Out of 10 cultivation novels, 9 will have such slander against Demons. Rarely will you find a novel where demons are cool or painted as the good guys, maybe none.
Warlock of the magus world and Demon's diary. The former directly tries to slander the gods by their name and the mc literally cultivates a 'cube' in his early stages.

2. Using aphrodisiacs that accidentally got eaten by the girl which was definitely not intended by the pure and humble main lead which led to forced sex or manipulated sex. Using aphrodisiacs is also used a pretext for rape. In some novels the main heroine is injured and the protagonist decides that sex is the answer and thus commits rape.
Example - ATG (Against the Gods)

3. These novels are also obsessed with petite 13 year or 15 year old looking heroines who in truth are thousands of years of old. This promotes pedophilia to the mass mind.
Example - Any trash tier garbage novels.

4. In some trash novels, women with heaven defying spirit roots(innate spiritual talent) are forcefully abducted or lured into being an furnace for the main protagonist or some other characters.
Example - Renegade immortal, Demon's Diary.

5. You will find plenty of nationality in these novels. The main characters gets a hard on for his communist nation and does things which makes their communist nation proud. Of course it won't be blatant but disguised and subtle. You will see that the "Western" cultivators are bad and villains and people from far East(Japan) are also villains. Japanese are hated a lot by the way.

6. One of the gravest misdirection built into such books is the whole concept of cultivation. In these books, its always cultivation of technique, cultivation of divine treasure, cultivation of dao and cultivation of each and everything there is except the cultivation of self. It is never about the cultivation of self and the powers of mind in these novels. To advance and move into the next realm, you have to get the divine flower of jade lotus to get into the next realm or get divinie treasure of thousand nirvana to simulate your spiritual qi for breaking through. Its always get x to move to y realm.

However, to this day, I have read not a single book which specially emphasizes on the cultivation of soul and the powers of mind. Its always about resources. Without resources, forget about cultivation. When in truth any one from any walk of life can cultivate their soul regardless of talent and no physical resources is needed. Things like bowl of water, mirrors, candles can be afforded by anyone and most of these are mostly used in intermediate or advanced stages except when first dedicating.

Perhaps, the concept of "No resource, No cultivation" or suppressing the knowledge that "Anyone can cultivate regardless of resources or talent" is the main purpose of allowing these books to be circulated by the enemy.

7. It is said that only one mortal out of one hundred thousand others can have the spiritual affinity to cultivate. Even then, his/her talent is probably poor and probably can't achieve much. Only those who are one in a million can cultivate with higher potential and speed. This again imprints into the mass mind that magic is something extremely rare and only few can cultivate. If you ask the average Joe "Can you do magic ?" He will respond with " Are you an idiot ? There's no magic in this world"
However, still, deep in his mind, it has been imprinted that magic is something extremely rare even though he just said that there's no magic in this world. What's imprinted in his subconscious could manifest in astral or affect it.
Wow, as I continue listing out, even I am surprised by the numbers of attacks onto humanity just in a single genre.

8. Cultivation is depicted to be pursuit that comes packaged with loneliness and desolateness. To move onto a higher realm, you have to return to your roots of being a caveman and sit in the same place in a cave for tens of thousands of years. Only then can you advance into the next stage. Forget about meeting with your friends and family during this period. Having sex is a no-no as it will exhaust your 'yang' energy much needed to break through into the next realm, lol.

That said, there are some good merits to these cultivation novels. The comprehension of knowledge which they simple dub as 'dao'. Comprehending philosophical concepts and applying it to increase their power is something I am fond of. At least it promotes the gaining of knowledge.
My favorite thing about it is going against the heavens or going against anything that tries to exert control over you. Rebellion against the fate and what not, there's something about it that deeply attracts me.

I read about HP Cobra's sermon on how facebook, instagram, youtube etc are all tools for psychological warfare. The algorithm is designed such that one gets lost in it and wastes a lot of time. Time which could be used for waking up and spirtitually advancing. I wouldn't put cultivation novels and manhuas past such tools. They have thousands of chapters and plethora of mind numbing content, most of which are garbage or trash not offering any literary or knowledgeable values which wastes a lot of valuable time. Perhaps weeks and months. And for every trash quality cultivation novel you read, 10 of the same same novels is written in the timeframe.

The most important thing to take from this passages of text is that the enemy wouldn't allow such concepts of cultivation and immortality if it didn't benefit them or if it harmed their interests.

I see.

1) Yes that's disgusting. They associate "demons" with evil. But that could also be a translation issue, I am not sure.
2) Yes, they both are shown to be in some sort of a bind. AGT is particularly disgusting. There are not so bad ones out there.
3) Not all. Again AGT is particularly disgusting.
4)) Yes, but in a lot of them this is shown to be disgusting and not an ok thing to do.
5)??? I have personally not come across anything like this.
6) Yes cultivation of techniques is big in these. But these could also be interpreted as techniques of meditation. A lot of them portray these techniques as knowledge and not external props. For example in martial peak, the mc studies the "dao of space" which is literally understanding the physics of space and is not shown to be an external thing but increasing their own understanding of the space.
7) Again, there's a lot of trash out there but a lot of them are also focused on the MC not being a one in a million talent and weak in the beginning. It is true that they show that the MC stumbles upon some sort of a random secret which helps him but a lot show the MC's own determination and grit.
8) Not all?? Sex is actually big in these. I have not come across any that mentioned sex is not to be had to save some "yang" energy. Yes they do show periods of isolated meditation but the main characters aren't lonely or such. You can also interpret it as meditation without any disturbances.

Again, not all of these are great, as with everything. It's like most horror movies depict demons as evil but there are some which shed a positive light. Similarly not all of these are great but there are some which have a lot of positive elements, more so than the negativity. I guess I should have given specific examples in my post. Try martial peak for one. Bad elements - yes. Good elements - also yes.

Also before I get attacked, evil sects in this are also called "demon" path cultivators but that could also be a translation issue. But there is literally a demon king character in this who was the most powerful in the realm where the MC is from and who saved the realm.

There is an old man character for a couple of chapters who mentioned something about "equality" but he is irrelevant. The major races are shown to live separately in their respective territories and they don't interbreed.

No sexualized underaged characters in this one.

Girls being used as "furnace" is not shown to be a good thing in this one.

There is no character trying to do good for his communist country or whatever you mentioned. There are no western characters per say.

Bad elements - yes. Good elements - also yes. In our world today if I get hung up on the negativity I'll have nothing left to entertain myself with. The good elements outweigh the bad ones in this.
 
The majority of a people under communism do not understand why it is bad. Some understand it and are threatened and attacked, others are corrupt and work with the jews.

It seems that the Chinese people have had a powerful spirituality in the past.
 
Username said:
The main characters gets a hard on for his communist nation and does things which makes their communist nation proud.


AgniCosmos said:
'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.'

Here is an example from one of the newer chapters of martial peak. The context is this: There is a territory that belonged to no sect. Now the MC has taken control of that region but the other people want the MC to share the wealth of that region with everyone. Here is what the MC replies:

(All credits to the translation team for this, it's not mine)

"You are welcome to try to seize it from me!"
This is a straight jab at communism. It doesn't get any more anti-communist than this without the whole series getting nuked.
 
स त न म said:
Username said:
The main characters gets a hard on for his communist nation and does things which makes their communist nation proud.


AgniCosmos said:
'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.'

Here is an example from one of the newer chapters of martial peak. The context is this: There is a territory that belonged to no sect. Now the MC has taken control of that region but the other people want the MC to share the wealth of that region with everyone. Here is what the MC replies:

(All credits to the translation team for this, it's not mine)

"You are welcome to try to seize it from me!"
This is a straight jab at communism. It doesn't get any more anti-communist than this without the whole series getting nuked.

स त न म said:
Username said:
The main characters gets a hard on for his communist nation and does things which makes their communist nation proud.


AgniCosmos said:
'the rich non-Jewish aristocracy should give their money to the poor so that everyone is poor! All problems solved now all non-Jews are poor and only Jews are rich.'

Here is an example from one of the newer chapters of martial peak. The context is this: There is a territory that belonged to no sect. Now the MC has taken control of that region but the other people want the MC to share the wealth of that region with everyone. Here is what the MC replies:

(All credits to the translation team for this, it's not mine)

"You are welcome to try to seize it from me!"
This is a straight jab at communism. It doesn't get any more anti-communist than this without the whole series getting nuked.

I admit that I wrote about cultivation novels in a way too negative manner. These novels are what I grew up reading. I meant novels such as Carefree Path of Dreams and other novels where the mc literally goes to China and is Anti-West. I shouldn't have been so biased or tried to find many negative things about the Cultivation novels or listed out the good things in equal amount. To be honest, anti west cultivation novels are one in a thousand but it was me who trying to find each and every negative thing about these novels, I apologize for giving the wrong image for the passages of text above and giving a wrong image of the novels to you स त न म and to fellow SS reading this.

While these novels might have some negative elements, one can't deny the outright romance in this novels of flying and fighting against that what tries to exert control over you or tries to manipulate you like fate, heaven's will etc. This is the greatest thing that attracts me and also the prospect or the image that human beings are able to exert such power.

Indeed, that's a straight jab at Communism and that's a really good thing to see. I hope for such novels to flourish.
 
Username said:
I admit that I wrote about cultivation novels in a way too negative manner. These novels are what I grew up reading. I meant novels such as Carefree Path of Dreams and other novels where the mc literally goes to China and is Anti-West. I shouldn't have been so biased or tried to find many negative things about the Cultivation novels or listed out the good things in equal amount. To be honest, anti west cultivation novels are one in a thousand but it was me who trying to find each and every negative thing about these novels, I apologize for giving the wrong image for the passages of text above and giving a wrong image of the novels to you स त न म and to fellow SS reading this.

While these novels might have some negative elements, one can't deny the outright romance in this novels of flying and fighting against that what tries to exert control over you or tries to manipulate you like fate, heaven's will etc. This is the greatest thing that attracts me and also the prospect or the image that human beings are able to exert such power.

Indeed, that's a straight jab at Communism and that's a really good thing to see. I hope for such novels to flourish.

It's very mature of you to rephrase and clarify about something that you mentioned earlier instead of simply arguing more to keep your point. And you're right that there is indeed a lot of trash out there, like AGT that you mentioned. That is straight disgusting at some points. I should have also provided specific examples in my post so people don't pick up trash novels.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

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