Astrology is Nonsense

[moon light]

I see believing in astrology as 50 percent correct, for example, many people can turn out to be liars even though they have an honest person position in their chart, and astrology is something like that. I don't think astrology has no share in the formation of a person's character, although I believe in the luck factor and energy. Of course, a conscious person determines his own character. What do you think about this issue? Thank you

 

[angramainyu]

Joy of Satan Astrology ebook. It might help. There is a chapter called Synastry page 186, I am pretty sure that is the page. HPS Maxine Said this situation in her cases was 100% .

 

[Ælberiigor]

Planets and stars emit astral radiations which influence all is receptive to that, it's a question of radiance.
Any objects or being have also an influence, a radiance.

The more you are strong, conscientious, know yourself, know the life..., the better you can countering this influence.
It's not easy, in part because people around us insist on realizing the astral influence.

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I see believing in astrology as 50 percent correct, for example, many people can turn out to be liars even though they have an honest person position in their chart, and astrology is something like that. I don't think astrology has no share in the formation of a person's character, although I believe in the luck factor and energy. Of course, a conscious person determines his own character. What do you think about this issue? Thank you

Astrology isn't black and white. Even if there are multiple aspects to support a character trait, for example, it may not apply to the person. Astrology requires an incredible amount of intuition.

 

[moon light]

Astrology isn't black and white. Even if there are multiple aspects to support a character trait, for example, it may not apply to the person. Astrology requires an incredible amount of intuition.

I've had many people interpret maps in the past. When I was a Muslim, they were all lies from beginning to end. And I had it interpreted by knowledgeable people. There is something I don't understand. Yes, people who are not developed in the spiritual sense match the birth chart exactly, but I don't match at all, although the fateful effects may be true at many points, such as Saturn. We don't match at all in terms of character, even though some signs are not in my chart at all, I am more like them. What exactly is the reason for this?

 

[moon light]

Joy of Satan Astrology ebook. It might help. There is a chapter called Synastry page 186, I am pretty sure that is the page. HPS Maxine Said this situation in her cases was 100% .

I don't understand which situation

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I see believing in astrology as 50 percent correct, for example, many people can turn out to be liars even though they have an honest person position in their chart, and astrology is something like that. I don't think astrology has no share in the formation of a person's character, although I believe in the luck factor and energy. Of course, a conscious person determines his own character. What do you think about this issue? Thank you

Astrology is just a tool for reading the energy state of a particular situation, whether at birth or when reading the environment surrounding someone/something. There are some elements of this which are subject to personal influence, and others which are fated.

It is like if you are a boat at sea. Yes you can decide which way to go, but that doesn't change the fact that your boat is wooden, the sea is made of water, a storm is coming in, and you are in a depressed mood. These are example factors which were shown through astrology, as it describes the energy state within a given situation.

When we meditate, we influence our soul and therefore how we can interact with our environment. Sometimes this reflects in the natal chart, but sometimes not obviously. Certain points within the soul, like the planets of the lower chakras, shows the degree of pushing force an individual can exhibit on their environment.

I think as you learn more about astrology, it won't seem like such a mystery to you.

 

[existentialcrisis]

I see believing in astrology as 50 percent correct, for example, many people can turn out to be liars even though they have an honest person position in their chart, and astrology is something like that. I don't think astrology has no share in the formation of a person's character, although I believe in the luck factor and energy. Of course, a conscious person determines his own character. What do you think about this issue? Thank you

You can "believe" in it or not, that doesn't change its efficacy.
It's not a computer program. No one element defines the whole chart. Everything has to be weighed in consideration with the rest.

 

[WoadWarrior]

I was lucky enough to have been able to buy a reading from HPHC when I was younger (teen) and a decent amount of what he wrote I thought was wrong...until I got older and realized literally every part that I assumed was wrong was actually fully 100% correct and simply had not manifested yet and its not like I was reading it daily, honestly I forgot about it until very recently reread it and he was on point about literally everything, he predicted almost every aspect to my life and exactly the person I would become so in a way your correct astrology can be nonsense as its only as good as the one interpreting the chart, a high level person such as HPHC can pretty much read your soul to a nearly exact science.

 

[WoadWarrior]

I was lucky enough to have been able to buy a reading from HPHC when I was younger (teen) and a decent amount of what he wrote I thought was wrong...until I got older and realized literally every part that I assumed was wrong was actually fully 100% correct and simply had not manifested yet and its not like I was reading it daily, honestly I forgot about it until very recently reread it and he was on point about literally everything, he predicted almost every aspect to my life and exactly the person I would become so in a way your correct astrology can be nonsense as its only as good as the one interpreting the chart, a high level person such as HPHC can pretty much read your soul to a nearly exact science.

 

[moon light]

Astrology is just a tool for reading the energy state of a particular situation, whether at birth or when reading the environment surrounding someone/something. There are some elements of this which are subject to personal influence, and others which are fated.

It is like if you are a boat at sea. Yes you can decide which way to go, but that doesn't change the fact that your boat is wooden, the sea is made of water, a storm is coming in, and you are in a depressed mood. These are example factors which were shown through astrology, as it describes the energy state within a given situation.

When we meditate, we influence our soul and therefore how we can interact with our environment. Sometimes this reflects in the natal chart, but sometimes not obviously. Certain points within the soul, like the planets of the lower chakras, shows the degree of pushing force an individual can exhibit on their environment.

I think as you learn more about astrology, it won't seem like such a mystery to you.

Okay thank you .

 

[moon light]

I was lucky enough to have been able to buy a reading from HPHC when I was younger (teen) and a decent amount of what he wrote I thought was wrong...until I got older and realized literally every part that I assumed was wrong was actually fully 100% correct and simply had not manifested yet and its not like I was reading it daily, honestly I forgot about it until very recently reread it and he was on point about literally everything, he predicted almost every aspect to my life and exactly the person I would become so in a way your correct astrology can be nonsense as its only as good as the one interpreting the chart, a high level person such as HPHC can pretty much read your soul to a nearly exact science.

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[Sanguis]

In astrology everything is not separated, you have to think of everything as connected and as a whole.

Example:
Let's say a person has Venus Scorpio in their chart, this placement is extremely loyal, but if they have Gemini in their 7th house, they may be more "playboy".

Planets, sign placements, aspects, persona charts, asteroids, house placements, transits and many more things affect you.

Speaking for myself, all the people whose charts I have interpreted so far have told me that I got everything right, and those who told me I was wrong have realized that I was telling the truth over time.

 

[Cosmic6999]

Astrology is just a tool for reading the energy state of a particular situation, whether at birth or when reading the environment surrounding someone/something. There are some elements of this which are subject to personal influence, and others which are fated.

It is like if you are a boat at sea. Yes you can decide which way to go, but that doesn't change the fact that your boat is wooden, the sea is made of water, a storm is coming in, and you are in a depressed mood. These are example factors which were shown through astrology, as it describes the energy state within a given situation.

When we meditate, we influence our soul and therefore how we can interact with our environment. Sometimes this reflects in the natal chart, but sometimes not obviously. Certain points within the soul, like the planets of the lower chakras, shows the degree of pushing force an individual can exhibit on their environment.

I think as you learn more about astrology, it won't seem like such a mystery to you.

What hold up this is some good information on here I didn't know

 

[Karnonnos]

What's an 'honest person position'? Mercury in Sagittarius is honest about what they think at the time for example, but it doesn't make them honest.

Honesty wielded properly is more of a skill than a totally innate quality. People lie constantly, to themselves, to others, and to their subconscious. Sometimes deceptions are necessary. Others are so blunt that they go around pissing off everyone.

Most Astrologers are too young, do not have enough social experience, can't blend meanings and hence don't look at the Chart correctly.

In the Middle Ages, rightly or wrongly, analyzing a human being's Birth Chart was considered the most difficult and intricate form of ALL Astrological undertakings. Finding objects, asking questions or predicting the result of a situation, studying the Charts of national catastrophes, weather for farmers, illness related Astrology, eclipses, these were all taught to initiates first, long before moving on to Natal Charts. A human being is always complicated.

Also, WoadWarrior is correct. People mature at different rates. In my estimation, parts of the chart are really not activated until age 30-40, or maybe a lot later than this. If you're some kid in school you haven't experienced a lot of what the Chart even talks about. Maybe in the Industrial Revolution and being forced to work these would be 'wrung out' earlier, but most people don't experience that.

 

[Bogow]

In order to prove to yourself (first of all) the truth of astrology, I suggest you think about what synastry is. Do a little test. Take 10, or better yet 20 couples who have been married for a long time. And analyze their relationship. Be sure that you will find all the descriptions from the synastry in their marriage. For example, if someone has a strong dominant Saturn over their partner’s Venus/Sun, you will have a domestic tyrant, bad aspects of Mars - domestic violence. Good aspects of the Moon - a lot of care and affection. And so on. You won't find any contradictions in this even if you try hard.

 

[Boeuf]

It's non nonsense. I use it daily actually, especially in gambling i found certain Configurations that raises the chances of winning. I won 3 times straight in a row in 3 days in a certain type of betting/game. In my opinion yes its real, but it depends on yhe expetience of the reader.

 

[NakedPluto [JG]]

Astrology is extremely correct to the point of being outright frightening sometimes, but for SS, should not. With time, maturity, interest, development and study you will find your acknowledgment of this. For example, when I first started as a SS, astrology was a way to verify something I was curious about. It was so direct and correct, it saved me for a lifetime of confusion because I could understand that this was due to a design of the planets, and sometimes you have to understand that the structures of reality are in a certain way.

 

[phi3.14infinity]

What's an 'honest person position'? Mercury in Sagittarius is honest about what they think at the time for example, but it doesn't make them honest.

Honesty wielded properly is more of a skill than a totally innate quality. People lie constantly, to themselves, to others, and to their subconscious. Sometimes deceptions are necessary. Others are so blunt that they go around pissing off everyone.

Most Astrologers are too young, do not have enough social experience, can't blend meanings and hence don't look at the Chart correctly.

In the Middle Ages, rightly or wrongly, analyzing a human being's Birth Chart was considered the most difficult and intricate form of ALL Astrological undertakings. Finding objects, asking questions or predicting the result of a situation, studying the Charts of national catastrophes, weather for farmers, illness related Astrology, eclipses, these were all taught to initiates first, long before moving on to Natal Charts. A human being is always complicated.

Also, WoadWarrior is correct. People mature at different rates. In my estimation, parts of the chart are really not activated until age 30-40, or maybe a lot later than this. If you're some kid in school you haven't experienced a lot of what the Chart even talks about. Maybe in the Industrial Revolution and being forced to work these would be 'wrung out' earlier, but most people don't experience that.

Why is that some planets are not activated before 30-40 ??

 

[General Yeager]

Astrology is extremely correct to the point of being outright frightening sometimes, but for SS, should not. With time, maturity, interest, development and study you will find your acknowledgment of this. For example, when I first started as a SS, astrology was a way to verify something I was curious about. It was so direct and correct, it saved me for a lifetime of confusion because I could understand that this was due to a design of the planets, and sometimes you have to understand that the structures of reality are in a certain way.

Tbh ,whenever i hear these Aethists and Intellectuals rejecting spirituality and trying to say Astrology or Meditation or Magick is fake, i think to myself "Good job. You just eliminated yourself from being able to use magick and change your destiny for yourself. More for me and my bloodline." I don't even try to argue or prove to them why they're wrong.

 

[SATANAS_SUPREME666]

Idk this post seems like bait

 

[Invictvs]

Tbh ,whenever i hear these Aethists and Intellectuals rejecting spirituality and trying to say Astrology or Meditation or Magick is fake

Whenever I see an Atheist or an "intellectual" saying astrology or spirituality is BS I immediately check the size of their nose. Most of the time they turn out to be members of that tribe.

 

[moon light]

Whenever I see an Atheist or an "intellectual" saying astrology or spirituality is BS I immediately check the size of their nose. Most of the time they turn out to be members of that tribe.

I'm sorry, are you okay? I've been with the devil since I was born? And I'm an astrologer? I think you should stop talking nonsense

 

[moon light]

Whenever I see an Atheist or an "intellectual" saying astrology or spirituality is BS I immediately check the size of their nose. Most of the time they turn out to be members of that tribe.

We are not here to ask questions.

 

[moon light]

Tbh ,whenever i hear these Aethists and Intellectuals rejecting spirituality and trying to say Astrology or Meditation or Magick is fake, i think to myself "Good job. You just eliminated yourself from being able to use magick and change your destiny for yourself. More for me and my bloodline." I don't even try to argue or prove to them why they're wrong.

Exactly dude, you call me ignorant without knowing anything about me dkwksowkdkwkidkskskskskskskskw I've been studying astrology for 5 years ????

 

[Larissa666]

Exactly dude, you call me ignorant without knowing anything about me dkwksowkdkwkidkskskskskskskskw I've been studying astrology for 5 years ????

Don't be insufferable. You came here to project your perceived superiority on everyone here on this forum instead of having a discussion in good faith. Yes, even if you studied astrology for x amount of years there might be things you still have to learn.

 

[Invictvs]

Don't be insufferable. You came here to project your perceived superiority on everyone here on this forum instead of having a discussion in good faith. Yes, even if you studied astrology for x amount of years there might be things you still have to learn.

5 years isn't even that long. HP Maxine for example did professional readings for over 30 years. Not one single person who has been doing professional readings for that long ever claimed that a chart can seem to be one of a honest person while that person in reality is a liar. Every professional astrologer you ask will tell you that all liars have obvious signs of deception in their chart. Only a inexperienced person cannot detect them.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

I see believing in astrology as 50 percent correct, for example, many people can turn out to be liars even though they have an honest person position in their chart, and astrology is something like that. I don't think astrology has no share in the formation of a person's character, although I believe in the luck factor and energy. Of course, a conscious person determines his own character. What do you think about this issue? Thank you

In my opinion astrology is a science, not very different from other sciences that are well established such as physics, astronomy, mathematics etc (ironically, of which we know quite some information about but our general scientific knowledge is still very limited as a civilization currently). The reason astrology is not considered a science is because it is not well established as it is associated with "magic" and we all know the present stance "science" has on magic.

Astrology is not something to "believe into", in the same way physics laws and mathematics are not faith based, but likewise, astrology has to be studied and understood, which many people are not able to do due to its complexity. It involves actual positioning of planets in the solar system and their general movement, which impact Earth energetically. For one to get a glimpse into how accurate astrology is, is enough to generate your chart using your date of birth (hour and minute if you know them), get the chart and then compare your placements with their descriptions on Azazel's Astrology on JoS.

Azazel's Astrology for Satanists: Index

Your placements will reveal some information about yourself that is highly likely to be accurate, but what is on Azazel's Astrology barely scratches the surface. Professional astrologers can go a lot deeper than this into someone's chart and reveal information that the person in question doesn't know him/herself, in the same way a mathematics professor will have a lot more knowledge and mastery of mathematics than a general person. It is nothing about faith, it is a very poorly understood science, deliberately brought to this point for the most part.

 

[Masterj810610]

Joy of Satan Astrology ebook. It might help. There is a chapter called Synastry page 186, I am pretty sure that is the page. HPS Maxine Said this situation in her cases was 100% .

Where is this book?

 

[angramainyu]

https://pdfcoffee.com/download/joy-of-satan-astrology-pdf-free.html . This might work

 

[13th_Wolf]

Don't know why people are attacking this guy when he's actually encouraging discussion on astrology here. He wasn't really being rude anywhere, really at all. Confusing.

I wish I got so many responses on some of my posts but people just seem to want to only read those and not add anything, or to attack and criticize eachother in posts like this, over nothing.

I was going to at one point start asking interesting question posts like this but I think shit like on here would happen or I would sound like an idiot. Either way I see this and feel vindicated and shitty.