I do not think Black Sabbath are Satanic

[Soul Wings]

I don't feel like Black Sabbath are Satanic. I have listened to Paranoid and Master of Reality, so I am not knowledgable on every single song. I know they are even mentioned on JoS so this is going against super popular opinion. I think their music is awesome, was otherworldly for the time and they are incredibly talented. However you do not have to be Satanist to be conscious about worldly issues. You do not have to be Satanic to use Satanic symbols and imagery to decieve. And you do not have to be Satanic to be the pioneers of Heavy Metal.

I have my suspicions about Sharon Rachel Osbourne (born Sharon Rachel Levy, by the fucking way) - his London born wife - because one "Rachel Osbourne" from London was in Jeffrey Epstein's Black book. It might not be her. She doesn't seem like the type. Neither did the rest of them though. Anyway, "allegedly" and all that. Go look for yourself.

They admit on their live DVD that they did not intend to create "heavy metal" as a genre, they only wanted to experiment with a "heavy" sound. They treat anything supernatural that happened to them (one of them said an entity "pointed" at him and disappeared) as cheesy/corny, like a bonfire story or fuel for their cheesy songs (Black Sabbath eg.).

The #1 song I've seen mentioned to push the "Black Sabbath = Satanic" case is War Pigs.

"Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction
...
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wings
Oh lord, yeah"

Don't get me wrong, it's a great song. But we're talking about "is it Satanic". I think it's on track...

So... that first verse clearly likens "evil" witches to military battlefields, implying that they kill and destroy in the same way, and that is their only intent. A bit rude and misguided but I can see why people let it slide, as it could be metaphoric. However, I'd be surprised if they could come up with metaphors that fucked up on drugs. Anyway, that is simply strike one for me and leaves me suspicious for the rest of the song.

(The verses I left out are anti-political, anti-war and it's the closest thing to Satanic in the song, in my opinion, but Satan is left unmentioned intentionally.)

The next verse, well... I admit I am conflicted. I can see the perspective that perhaps Satan is being referred to as "God", in this case it would confirm it's a Satanic song. But I personally (from the tone of the first verse) have seen it through the lens of "God vs Satan", and Satan "enjoying" - laughing - at the bloody spectacle. Made out like the villain, again.
The fact that a good chunk of their songs, are simply love songs to drugs, we can deduce that conscious issues were not their priority. They admit most of their squabbling and kicking out members (Ozzy included) was because of drugs.
Now if I were to cherry pick one song of theirs to push the "Black Sabbath = Satanic" perspective, I have always felt like it would actually be Children of the Grave. Sadly, a far, far lesser known song.

"Revolution in their minds the children start to march
Against the world in which they have to live
And all the hate that's in their hearts
They're tired of being pushed around
And told just what to do
They'll fight the world until they've won
And love comes flowing through, yeah
Children of tomorrow live in the tears that fall today
Will the sun rise up tomorrow bringing peace in any way?
Must the world live in the shadow of atomic fear?
Can they win the fight for peace or will they disappear, yeah
So you children of the world
Listen to what I say
If you want a better place to live in
Spread the words today
Show the world that love is still alive you must be brave
Or you children of today are children of the grave, yeah"

This song would almost - almost have me take back what I said earlier. These lyrics, they feel like they're straight off the tongue of a Demon, perhaps even Satan himself. I find myself struggling to make a case against this song. So, you know what - I won't. I'm just going to leave it as is.

I don't have much more information, so.. in conclusion. I don't think Black Sabbath were Satanic themselves at all, but they were unintentional messengers for a Satanic agenda, despite being on drugs to the point of almost dying, which is admittedly quite impressive. I truly don't think they knew what they were doing. Of course I could be wrong, but this is simply my perspective.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I never cared for the style or particular type of energy this style has. It feels too much Neptune druggie to me. I just can't get myself into it. Newer rock stuff has better energy to it and feels more Satanic. The whole vibe suggests an environment of druggies or people drinking.

 

[Fuchs]

We should first of all determine what Satanic means.

For me it is:

If something does lead to a better connection to Satan.


Things like - developing yourself/ absolute Satans name / influence people to search for Satan / destroying enemy reputation / living in harmony with ones environment / preserving ones race / revealing enemy plans / freedom / rebellion against restrictions / justice.

From this standpoint, I think Black Sabbath (-> Heavy Metal) was as essentiel for the satanic cause as the Satanic Church from Lavey was at the time. Without both, there would be way less Zevism today, fighting to destroy the enemy. I always thought how powerfully thought out Satan did influence Bands/Musik, People, Art, Technology so we are here at this point and are able to write about in a Satanic Forum.

 

[Soul Wings]

Things like - developing yourself/ absolute Satans name / influence people to search for Satan / destroying enemy reputation / living in harmony with ones environment / preserving ones race / revealing enemy plans / freedom / rebellion against restrictions / justice.

From this standpoint, I think Black Sabbath (-> Heavy Metal) was as essentiel for the satanic cause as the Satanic Church from Lavey was at the time. Without both, there would be way less Zevism today, fighting to destroy the enemy.

I agree and disagree. With bands that are blatantly Satanic (Ghost/Rotting Christ eg.) these days, that potentially could have existed if heavy metal existed or not, I think there's just various forms. But people are saying Black Sabbath themselves ARE Satanists (not just their music) and it's just not true. That's more the purpose of what I was trying to say.
As for LaVeys, never met one in my life I'd trust or liked. To me, they are like Crowley-ans.They were all god-awful, up themselves, or sleazy to me. I wouldn't call them Satanist in the slightest. Not saying some of their philosophies about life didn't make sense, or that I don't respect their obstruction to injustices, but to prove my point, currently, people here suspect they are an enemy org.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Black Sabbath is like the music version of Crowley. All about using every possible kind of drugs, and worthless qlippoth nonsense, and from England.

 

[Pyralis]

Listen to "N.I.B.," "After Forever," and "Lord of this World," and their true colors become pretty obvious.

 

[Dragonheart666]

Most of these cheesy metal bands that were popular during the 70s and '80s were Christian related. Typically to express the badass within being rebellious and going against the church and the family values as a teenager and a young kid that is also where Aleister Crowley and Anton LaVey step in to go along with that system which also explains why Hollywood got into the Satan panic is because of these things! Because of the lyrics in the music and because of the way the bands used to dress with the long hair and the drug scene so it made it kind of sketchy! For those who were both fans and non fans of these musical bands and the party goers and the followers that would go to these concerts paying big money for the tickets and anybody who would listen to the music at home had their own point of view on it would be considered evil and what wasn't? I know that it brought on a lot of controversy among Christian families and Christian homes not realizing that a lot of these bands and their music was laced with Christianity that a lot of these bands were just using Witchcraft and symbols of Satan as their persona and did their videos with bimbos and half naked women making it is sketchy as can be so people had to use their imagination with a consider to be evil or good and to find the pleasure in it and to get out and have some fun so it was mixed with the thrill and the pleasure of wanting to get out and do something and that was what was so catching about it especially if you were a teenager that was 18 to get out and enjoy yourself and get away from the controlling parents at home and then of course there were your potheads and your bikers and your hippies that have their shit as well it seemed to me that the further I go back into the 70s era and the 60s era that is where you're going to find something a little more fitting with the pagan expressing the folk and the folk music taking the time to express that listening to Jefferson Airplane which is also Jefferson Starship and then later become Starship! With Gracie Slick who was famous throughout the 60s with her voice got together with a lot of these young teenagers I don't know if it was the same band? That modified themselves to 50 '80s? Or she selected new band members throughout the years just to fit in with the younger crowd giving teenagers what they want to hear? Mickey Thomas and Gracie Slick made their appearance on MTV we built this city on rock and roll! Which seem to fit the criteria of the Illuminati something that Aleister Crowley would have loved as well but still as you look back into these old '60s and 70s bands you're going to find something a little more fitting for the Satanist and the spiritual Satanist because it discuss moral values love and maturity deep thinking and spirituality.. the '80s music may have been fun to listen to and it definitely got people out on to the dance floor! As you going to the 90s generation and the 2000s generation that is where I am scratching my head and wondering? What the hell is going on? Do people have talents anymore? And is it people really singing or is it a robot? The music industry become so corrupt by the enemy and had changed everything about music and not in a good way the enemy has destroyed the music industry to the point where music is not music and people taking and stealing each other's music and claiming it to be their own and making it more and more misleading so you don't even really know who the artist is anymore since they blend music with music and ruin it! It's still fun to listen to but in the same sense it's annoying! Seriously as I go back into the 40s and the 50s where people actually would travel and play musical instruments clear down to the mid-90s generation that is where music was worth listening to and it used to have heart and soul and it used to have meaning even the black metal bands and the death metal bands still try to hold on to that which is very intriguing and in their own way expressing their views on religion and the occult

 

[Yurei]

Deicide is a true Satanic band, their songs are very anti xian.
A few people mentioned Slayer, I will say they made a cover of an older punk rock song that has some WW2 regime undertones "Guilty of being White"

 

[Mergethor]

Unfortunately most of the stuff which is labeled "satanic" regarding music and movies has one purpose. To catch the souls which are starting to wake up, redirect them and infuse/harden the christian view/suggestion satanic=evil=bad.
Although your youl cannot be confused but via your mind they try to set an overlay so to speak to misdirect you and keep you on the black and white chessboard.
You know the saying "music is the number one supplier"

 

[Wotanwarrior]

It's cool and interesting to see yall bumping my old threads lol. Did you find it from related threads?
Have you listened to Rotting Christ or Ghost?

RC deny being Satanic but I believe that due to our vow of silence.

From RC wiki:
"They also have had to cancel some shows, most recently in May 2005, when Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine threatened to refuse to play at a Greek concert if Rotting Christ were on the bill.

In response to their forced cancellation, Tolis noted:

I didn't expect something like that from Dave Mustaine, because, you know, he's supposed to be metal — you know, 'metal band,' all metal ... I just feel sorry for him and for every new Christian with new ideas, because we think Christianity is the worst thing to happen in human history. This is a well-organized trick in order to control society, so when I see someone that's very much Christian, that's full of the system, I feel very sorry for him because he's not free.
...
They had their passports and cell phones confiscated and were detained in prison, without being permitted legal representation or contact with the Greek Embassy for 12 hours. Afterwards, they were informed by their lawyers that the two were included in a "list of unwanted people for reasons of national security" that labeled them as "Satanists" and "suspects of terrorism"

I believe they are not Zevism and instead are in some sort of corrupt LHP cult just like the Behemoth band.

Their last two albums Rituals and The Heretics are full of Hebrew Kabbalistic elements so common is that kind of corrupt cults.

 

[Ælberiigor]

Unfortunately most of the stuff which is labeled "satanic" regarding music and movies has one purpose. To catch the souls which are starting to wake up

I believe they are not Zevism and instead are in some sort of corrupt LHP cult just like the Behemoth band

All is said.
Only few satanist BM albums are really good, Nat Soc BM is better (Darkened Nocturne Slaughter Cult) but the spiritual level is low, decadent.
There is more Pagans to write well balanced albums because their mindset is coherent, art goes with the cult and tradition.
Authentic faith is often lacking in the so called satanic BM and the inspiration generally degenerates with the time.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Certain Rock bands from back then were used by the Gods as part of the initiative to get us where we are now. Bands like Black Sabbath, Zeppelin, Stooges etc. Were 100%.

Other obscure bands which were clued up like us back then, if they were being outward and overly impassioned against the enemy (and not presenting as retarded, controllable, into drugs etc.) they used to just get snuffed and lose their lives and everything. Now we can have Black Metal, which is clearly still in quite a juvenile phase because I can't personally take a lot of it seriously either.

Saying Black Sabbath is Satanic is because great, lightning inspired music breaking down barriers is fundamentally Satanic. A lot of black metal hasn't reached that at all. The original edgelord black metal bands like Mayhem even musically did that way more than a lot of the bands now, who are writing music in this more free-er time.

 

[Majestic Eagle]

I love this song, think Robert turned christian, and jimmy is still into kaballah though...

 

[Majestic Eagle]

read the piece written by HPcobra on Hotel California, its a very interesting take. Ive always loved the song even when I was told it was satanic when I was younger.