whats up with laveyans?

[brwnstwnh]

Why do laveyan call themselves satanists,if they don't believe he exists?its an oxymoron

 

[sosayeththereptile]

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Allyson Ford]

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right. 

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

  I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[diznit26]

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Allyson Ford]

Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Brian Gibbons]

Yes Allyson,the one I wear has no circle around it at all.And no kike symbols either.Just a plain goat,in an upside down pentagram.To me it is the most safest.And I wear it in and out of my shirt,depending on where,and what I am doing.
Hail Satan!Brian

From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[aarzhul]

They do not worship satan as an entity but rather what he represents.
Strength, Power, Knowledge to name a few things.
They still use magic and that part is somewhat funny.
However if you think they are powerless, look up chaos magic.
It'll make you understand a few things about what willpower can do.
I've read the laveyan satanic bible and found it interesting.
Of course, they are fools to ignore our father's existence but they make it a rule to be strong, intelligent and to stand on your own two feet. From what I've seen, they also oppose the xtians bullshit.
Those worthy of satan will see the truth in time, I believe.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Why do laveyan call themselves satanists,if they don't believe he exists?its an oxymoron

 

[Tammy Arnold]

If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Tammy Arnold]

What's up with Laveyans? I too was introduced to Satanism through LaVey, but that was short-lived, as I knew there was more to Satan than He just being an archetype.  He is a real being, which they do not believe or acknowledge, yet they do rituals, asking Him for things...I think HP Maxine touched on this in one of her sermons.  Another thing the Enochian Keys they use during rituals are backasswards--calling themselves Satan, yet cursing him with these Keys...naturally they are fucked...that being just the beginning I am sure.  I see them as your basic "Celebrity Satanists" or those that are more into the idea of Satanism who are high profile and well-known--and some of their "HP" are rather well-known celebrities--if that makes any sense..
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right. 

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

  I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[PRAHLAD DRONES]

WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[[email protected]]

Sent from my LG phone

Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

Yes Allyson,the one I wear has no circle around it at all.And no kike symbols either.Just a plain goat,in an upside down pentagram.To me it is the most safest.And I wear it in and out of my shirt,depending on where,and what I am doing.

Hail Satan!
Brian




________________________________
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?


 
Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:


 
Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Allyson Ford]

Alright thanks Brian! I find people have a weird vibe from people when I wore my Baphomet it is good to be cautious sadly. I also wear an awesome pentagram ring upside down and I'll wear that everywhere (even work!). I also got my black ankh necklace that I've had for over 7 years already! I got a tattoo of an ankh. This one time a few yrs ago at a store I was asked by these old ladies about my "cross" and asking where I assemble and all that shit. Well when I simply told her it's an ancient Egyptian symbol meaning basically life and it's where your cross was taken from. Those two old ladies didn't want to talk to me anymore lol  back to the jewelry.... It's annoying how Xains can wear their shit and how it's everywhere! On cars, signs, flyers, etc. I hate Christian bumper stickers.... Hey there's a new bumper sticker....
Hail Satan!! Hail Amun-Ra!!!        

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... wrote:

  Yes Allyson,the one I wear has no circle around it at all.And no kike symbols either.Just a plain goat,in an upside down pentagram.To me it is the most safest.And I wear it in and out of my shirt,depending on where,and what I am doing.
Hail Satan!Brian

From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <[url=mailto:catloversforeva@...]catloversforeva@...[/url] wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Allyson Ford]

It's at a local store I asked once but you know they got to keep their connections private. I'm in southern California. It's a beautiful necklace that it's time for me to buy come payday lol  

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <[url=mailto:catloversforeva@...]catloversforeva@...[/url] wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[lefthandedpath1]

WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[diznit26]

You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@... wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[diznit26]

"However if you think they are powerless, look up chaos magic."

Umm laveyans don't meditate? If you don't meditate or do any yoga of course you don't have much spiritual power to use in magick nor do you a powerful aura and chakras to empower the working. Doesn't matter whether you use chaos magick or anything else, you need to have a powerful aura and a strong soul. They do know the timing that it's good to do it at night or how to raise energy but that's it. Their magick of course is more powerful than a xian's prayer but weaker than ours.

An intermediate spiritual Satanist's magick (who does energy work and empowers his aura and chakras every day) is lot more powerful than an advanced Laveyan's, this is common sense.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "aarzhul" <kill_hellman@... wrote:

They do not worship satan as an entity but rather what he represents.
Strength, Power, Knowledge to name a few things.
They still use magic and that part is somewhat funny.
However if you think they are powerless, look up chaos magic.
It'll make you understand a few things about what willpower can do.
I've read the laveyan satanic bible and found it interesting.
Of course, they are fools to ignore our father's existence but they make it a rule to be strong, intelligent and to stand on your own two feet. From what I've seen, they also oppose the xtians bullshit.
Those worthy of satan will see the truth in time, I believe.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@ wrote:

Why do laveyan call themselves satanists,if they don't believe he exists?its an oxymoron

 

[Kristjan Ojamets]

When i went to the store to buy myself a pendulum , they had talismans there aswell.
I saw a pentagram there , but it instantly hit me in the head when i saw a circle around it and refused to buy it then , since i know it might be offensive.

Hail Father Satan! Hail Haures!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrote:

You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[brwnstwnh]

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrot

You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[diznit26]

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]I bought mine from a site called Abraxon.They have a Bophomet,with no circle around it on there.I like it.I only paid 12 dollars for it last year.Its pewter,so it won't turn either.
Hail Satan!
Brian

--- On Tue, 8/9/11, brwnstwnh <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

From: brwnstwnh <brwnstwnh@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 2:24 PM

  Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- [/IMG][email protected], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

[/TD]

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

An another did father tell u so,use ur reason n common sense.N listen to diznit,s/he(sorry i forgot) use that two.N understand clearly what written on jos.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:50 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

An another did father tell u so,use ur reason n common sense.N listen to diznit,s/he(sorry i forgot) use that two.N understand clearly what written on jos.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:50 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

An another did father tell u so,use ur reason n common sense.N listen to diznit,s/he(sorry i forgot) use that two.N understand clearly what written on jos.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:50 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[diznit26]

Just to clarify, I didn't ask personally Satan about the baphomet with circles, but it's really common sense that these circles are used for *binding* the baphomet, and they lessen its power. Circles are always a symbol of binding. You've probably noticed (if you performed the august destruction ritual against the kikes) that the ritual sigil had a circle around a kike star with some runes, and it's purpose was for binding the destruction on them.

Satan wants us to study and do our research as well. The Gods are sick of the circles because they were used for centuries to abuse and force them. What I meant about Satan is he has told many people that there are "Satanists" who do many things against him because of lack of knowledge and enemy lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

An another did father tell u so,use ur reason n common sense.N listen to diznit,s/he(sorry i forgot) use that two.N understand clearly what written on jos.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:50 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@ wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]

<td [/IMG]Try Abaxion.com Tammy,that's where I got mine from last year.
Hail Satan!
Brian

--- On Mon, 8/8/11, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

From: Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:35 PM

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Au[/IMG]catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG]<a rel="nofollow">[email protected], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

[/TD]

[/TD]

 

[darrklady13]

WHAT?a? No it is not offensive to Father I wear these everyday.

And I have an inverted pentacle tattooed on my chest. HAIL SATAN

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@... wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Tammy Arnold]

Yeah, I understand what you mean about keeping connections private...I was asking because most of the necklaces I have found are made cheap and discolor or they have those circles on them, which, until recently I had no idea it made much difference.  You learn something new every day I guess.  I will search the Internet for others, and have a suspicion I will find the right one.  Thanks anyway...and yes, do get it. If it is as you say, and I know it is, grab it! lol!Hail, Satan!
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  It's at a local store I asked once but you know they got to keep their connections private. I'm in southern California. It's a beautiful necklace that it's time for me to buy come payday lol  

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Tammy Arnold]

I will look at that website...thanx Brian!!!
Hail, Satan!
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

 

<td val[/IMG]I bought mine from a site called Abraxon.They have a Bophomet,with no circle around it on there.I like it.I only paid 12 dollars for it last year.Its pewter,so it won't turn either.
Hail Satan!
Brian

--- On Tue, 8/9/11, brwnstwnh <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

From: brwnstwnh <brwnstwnh@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 2:24 PM

  Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- [/IMG][email protected], "diznit26" <diznit26@... wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- [/IMG][email protected], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

[/TD]

 

[Tammy Arnold]

Brian,  I think I found what you were telling me about on Abaxion.com..  I have a question though.  In the photo, they show the pendant, but there is no ring on the bail to put a chain on.  Did yours come with a ring? Without it, it would simply lie sideways on the chain...lol.  Sorry to bother you with such a lame question, but inquiring minds need to know before purchasing.  
Hail, Satan!
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

 

<td val[/IMG]

<td [/IMG]Try Abaxion.com Tammy,that's where I got mine from last year.
Hail Satan!
Brian

--- On Mon, 8/8/11, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

From: Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:35 PM

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Au[/IMG]catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG]<a rel="nofollow">[email protected], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

[/TD]

[/TD]

 

[[email protected]]

For a while I was wearing a right side up pentagram not knowing it was wiccan until I came on the jos finding out it was offensive to the Gods.I got rid of it soon after.
Sent from my LG phone

lefthandedpath <drones91@... wrote:

WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Brian Gibbons]

<td val[/IMG]Not lame at all Tammy.When it came it had a link through it,but no chain.I bought it without the chain,because I have so many.But yes if I remember correctly it had a link through it.But I did put a stronger,and wider one,so that I could but the necklace of my choice on it.Hope that helps.It took less than a week to get too.As I said,I love pewter too,becouse it is cheap,and doesn't turn.I hope you love yours, as I do mine.Its the closets thing I could find to JoS symbol.Maybe one day the Satanic Shop on JoS links will sell one.I keep looking.We can always hope.
Hail Satan!
Brian

--- On Tue, 8/9/11, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

From: Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 5:26 PM

  Brian,  I think I found what you were telling me about on Abaxion.com..  I have a question though.  In the photo, they show the pendant, but there is no ring on the bail to put a chain on.  Did yours come with a ring? Without it, it would simply lie sideways on the chain...lol.  Sorry to bother you with such a lame question, but inquiring minds need to know before purchasing.  
Hail, Satan!
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

 

<td style="font:[/IMG]

<td [/IMG]Try Abaxion.com Tammy,that's where I got mine from last year.
Hail Satan!
Brian
--- On Mon, 8/8/11, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

From: Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@...
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 12:35 PM

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Au[/IMG]catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG]<a rel="nofollow">[email protected], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

[/TD]

[/TD]

[/TD]

 

[Don1]

LaVeyians,.
I don't call them Satanists as they refuse Satan's truth that He is a real Being and God, they follow LaVey's philosophy on things but yet ignore the open things he mentioned on Demons in his bible. And a read on the books put out by Aquino on his time as a CoS HP will show that LeVay did in private believe in Satan as a actual Being and God along with the Demons as real Gods. The whole original CoS clergy did.

LaVey was a Spiritual Satanist in private and showed this a bit in public.

There is a current in the stream of consciousness among the "mainstream Satanic community" that mocks meditation and the metaphysical reality of the universe. And leaves Satanism as just another materialist ideology, it should be noted much of LaVeyian mainstream thought comes from the Jewesses Rosenbaum AKA Ann Rand. Who aim was to plant the seeds of a hyper selfishness to the level of being sociopathic in the American mind, to better divide and conqueor Gentiles and use it to subvert and breakdown the organic bonds of American community. Extreme selfishness is a form of stupidity and such greed is the root of destruction of any people that embrace it's death kiss. This is still strongly encouraged today in the Jewish media. Hyper materialism is a Jewish distraction nothing more.

The reason many Jews pushing atheism in the mainstream(such as Sam Harris) are using the outdated Newtonian model(Newton was a good scientist but his time was 200 years ago) is to push materalism on us to the point Gentiles believe we don't even have a soul. And thus become the goyium or soulless animals jews claim we are. The reason for this is obvious, the Jews admit it:


"IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL

FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE "GOYIM"

THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT,

AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL

CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS."-Protocols



http://www.666blacksun.com/Safe_Satanism.html

Safe Satanism

Satanism is just fine for the Jewish powers and their Christian cohorts as long as:


Satanists believe in the Christian concept of Satan
Satan is just an "archetype" or a "force."
Satan isn't taken seriously
The Goetic Demons are "just different aspects of one's own mind"
Satanists are kept small in number, thus they are easy to control
Most are the weirdo types who commit occult crimes and such that the Jewish media can broadcast as examples to keep the general populace away.
Satan is all about horror, gore and spooks
The examples above are SAFE SATANISM. What the enemy fears the most is our *knowing* that SATAN IS A REAL BEING and our communicating with him. Satanic organizations who promote that "Satan is only an archetype" or the Christian concept of Satan, that he is an "archangel" or and/under the power of the Judeo/Christian God are the ones who get the most support and publicity, no different from the Christian Churches.

It is acceptable to believe in the Judeo/Christian "God" but if you really believe in Satan as your God, it becomes a whole different matter.

The biggest fear the Jews have is that of the Gentiles waking up to their lies and crimes against humanity and worst of all, our accessing the powers of the mind known as "BLACK MAGICK."

If you have read everything on this website and understand and are dedicated, you can help by JOINING HELL'S ARMY

If Satan and/or his Demons have helped you in some way, you can repay their generosity and kindness by working to destroy the enemy through psychic means.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

An another did father tell u so,use ur reason n common sense.N listen to diznit,s/he(sorry i forgot) use that two.N understand clearly what written on jos.

On Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:50 PDT diznit26 wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@ wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[[email protected]]

yeah,those Laveyans call themselves a CHURCH.They might as well be on the other side.And they say we are a bunch of reverse christians.Fuckin idiots.
Sent from my LG phone

diznit26 <diznit26@... wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Allyson Ford]

The Baphomet symbol I have I mainly kept Baphomet in my mind I never thought of LaVey when I wore them it was always for Baphomet. I don't believe I could offended anyone with that my intentions knowledge is how we grow into ourselves sometimes. This information was posted for a reason  Hail Satan!!! Hail Amun-Ra!! 
-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  Yeah, I understand what you mean about keeping connections private...I was asking because most of the necklaces I have found are made cheap and discolor or they have those circles on them, which, until recently I had no idea it made much difference.  You learn something new every day I guess.  I will search the Internet for others, and have a suspicion I will find the right one.  Thanks anyway...and yes, do get it. If it is as you say, and I know it is, grab it! lol!Hail, Satan!
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  It's at a local store I asked once but you know they got to keep their connections private. I'm in southern California. It's a beautiful necklace that it's time for me to buy come payday lol  

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <[url=mailto:thecatwoman3@...]thecatwoman3@...[/url] wrote:

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <[url=mailto:dectotaku34@...]dectotaku34@...[/url]
To: "[e[/IMG]JoyofSatan666@yahoo[/IMG][email protected][/email][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <[url=mailto:catloversforeva@...]catloversforeva@...[/url] wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Tammy Arnold]

I agree.  In the last 24 hours that has been proven to me.  There is a reason for all things.  Sometimes we are wrong about something, and only when we say something do we learn we are wrong.  I don't mean this about  your Baphomet either. I meant myself, but how do we know we are wrong unless we study and ask questions, or post something and someone corrects us? I want to learn. I can be taught.  I can be corrected.  And, I can admit when I am wrong.  I like coming on here because I have learned lately.  Knowledge IS power.  I am grateful for this group!!!!
Hail, Satan!!
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  The Baphomet symbol I have I mainly kept Baphomet in my mind I never thought of LaVey when I wore them it was always for Baphomet. I don't believe I could offended anyone with that my intentions knowledge is how we grow into ourselves sometimes. This information was posted for a reason  Hail Satan!!! Hail Amun-Ra!! 
-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  Yeah, I understand what you mean about keeping connections private...I was asking because most of the necklaces I have found are made cheap and discolor or they have those circles on them, which, until recently I had no idea it made much difference.  You learn something new every day I guess.  I will search the Internet for others, and have a suspicion I will find the right one.  Thanks anyway...and yes, do get it. If it is as you say, and I know it is, grab it! lol!Hail, Satan!
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  It's at a local store I asked once but you know they got to keep their connections private. I'm in southern California. It's a beautiful necklace that it's time for me to buy come payday lol  

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.

 

[Tammy Arnold]

How can they say that we are reverse xians? WTF??????  What proof do they supposedly use to back up this claim? From what I have ascertained, their website gives no real guidance.  They perceive Satan an archetype, and the rest has already been said in previous posts.  How do they call themselves Satanists when they do the rituals, ask Satan for things, and end their rituals with the Keys in the Satanic Bible that HP Maxine exposed as blaspheme towards Father Satan and the Demons? 
Hail, Satan!
From: "mleskela@..." <mleskela@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  yeah,those Laveyans call themselves a CHURCH.They might as well be on the other side.And they say we are a bunch of reverse christians.Fuckin idiots.
Sent from my LG phone

diznit26 <diznit26@... wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[High Priestess Maxine Dietrich]

Here is a repeat [for people who are new here] post I made some years back regarding the Church of Satan. I also want to add here- Anton LaVey was exceptionally rare- he was incarnated as a jew in order to accomplish what he did. No Gentile would have gotten anywhere if they tried to do what he did in the way of getting positive material about Satan published, opening the first modern above ground Satanic Church and much, much more. The jewish controlled press, media and legal system would have shut them down immediately.

He is NOT a jewish soul. I know this as I have met him and conversed with him numerous times. He is highly respected and known by all souls in Hell. Yes, he made mistakes, but so does everyone else. The important thing is that he opened the door for us. I also have much gratitude for him in that I came to Satan after reading his Satanic Bible and Satanic Rituals. He has also expressed much abhorrance at what his Church has become. He says he is 'appalled.'

Here is my repeat post:

Wed Aug 24, 2005
Anton LaVey

First off, it is mentioned in the rules for this e-group that we DO know
Satan is a real being. Pushing LaVeyanism here is not needed or wanted.
I personally don't call Church of Satan "Satanists" as IMO, CoS is nothing
more than an Anton LaVey CULT [Jazz music, 1940's and 50's films noir genre]. I do not take it upon myself to bash other
groups, but I see where this discussion is going on here and I have always
wanted to do this for an article. I guess now is the time. When I was new to Satanism, LaVeyanism really appealed to me because I came as an atheist. I was surprised to learn that Satan and his Demons are real beings which I found in a short time.

The quotes below expose endless hypocrisy with where the CoS is at today. Satan and the Powers of Hell do not have time for childish games.

Quotes from Anton LaVey:

"In the name of all who suffered and died as agents of the Devil in ages
past, the present band of heretics-those who would deny the Devil, yet play
his game-must be called to task"

"And what do they do , now that it is safe and clear to use His Great
Infernal Name? They deny Him!"
-Anton Szandor LaVey The Devil's Notebook, page 33

"Let it be known that every man who delves into the arts of darkness must
give the Devil and His children the due their years of infamy deserve.
Satan's Name will not be denied! Let no man shun or mock His Name who plays
His winning game or despair, depletion, and destruction await!"
-Anton Szandor LaVey The Devil's Notebook, page 34

Official Church of Satan official website
http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
Click on "Theory-Practice" then "Policy Statements"
"* Satanic Youth Communique"

Here is an excerpt:
"Don't be disturbed or frightened or think you're crazy when you feel
contacted by the Dark Ones you conjure forth, or by the magical results you
begin to produce. You're not crazy for feeling the way you do about the
hypocrisy, blindness and incompetence you see all around you. Nor are you
crazy to see the results of your Black Magic. Approach the Dark Masters with the proper degree of respect and decorum-that's what rituals are for, to establish a relationship. If you approach the demons respectfully, they will reward you with knowledge, guidance, and success. Your demon guide is within you-don't look for it outside. You just have to contact that part of
yourself and listen to it. That is the most important work anyone can do."

"The difference between prayer and magic can be compared to the difference
between applying for a loan and writing out a blank check for a desired
amount. A man applying for a loan (prayer) may have nothing but a job as
collateral and must keep working and pay interest, should the loan be
granted. Otherwise he will wind up with bad credit (purgatory). The man
(magician) who writes the desired amount on the blank check, assumes there
will be delivery of the merchandise, and he pays no interest. He is indeed
fortunate-but he had better have sufficient funds (magical qualities) to
cover the amount written, or he may wind up in far worse straits, and have
his creditors (demons) out looking for him."
Page 20, bottom paragraph, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey

I wasn't aware that "archetypes" could be "out looking for someone."

Here are some more interesting quotes from the Satanic Rituals:
"If one is truly good inside he can call the names of the
Gods of the Abyss with freedom from guilt and immunity from
harm. The resultant feeling will be most gratifying. But there is
no turning back. Here are the Rites of Lucifer ... for those
who dare remove their mantles of self-righteousness."
Anton Szandor LaVey
The Church of Satan
25 December VI Anno Satanas
Page 14, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey


No turning back?? If Satan is an only an "archetype" then why is there "no
turning back"?

"As to the pronunciation of the names involved (despite
some occultists who insist, "You can't expect help from the
forces you call upon if you can't pronounce their names right,"),
assume that the forces, demons, or elementals have enough
insight to judge a caller's worthiness on more profound criteria
than his glib tongue or expensive shoes."
Page 22, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey

What difference does it make if they are only "archetypes" on how we
pronounce their names??

"The Satanic Bible states that the magician should treat the
entities he calls upon as friends and companions, for even an
"impersonal" device will respond better to a conscientious and
respectful user. This principle is accurate for operating automobiles
and power tools, as well as demons and elementals."
Page 24, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey

The above statement is awfully blatant. If they are only "archetypes" then
how is it they "respond"?

"The Yezidi interpretation of God was in the purest Satanic
tradition. The idea, so prominent in Greek philosophy, that
God is an existence absolute and complete in himself, unchangeable,
outside of time and space, did not exist in Yezidi
theology. Also rejected was the theocratic Judaic concept of
Jehovah, and also the Mohammedan God: the absolute ruler.
The notion, unique to Christians, that God is Christ-like in
character was totally absent. If there was any semblance of a
personal manifestation of God, it was through Satan, who
instructed and guided the Yezidi toward an understanding of
the multifaceted principles of Creation, much like the Platonic
idea that the Absolute was itself static and transcendental. This
concept of "God" is essentially the position taken by the
more highly evolved Satanists. Prayer was forbidden, in the
strictest Satanic tradition. Even daily expressions of faith were
referred to as "recitals."
Page 154, Satanic Rituals (c) 1972 by Anton LaVey

The above is a most beautiful quote and very true. If Satan is only an
archetype though, how can he "guide"?


Page 29 of The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey:
"The Devil has been attacked by the men of God relentlessly and without
reservation. Never has there been an opportunity, short of fiction, for the
Dark Prince to speak out in the same manner as the spokesmen of the Lord of
the Righteous."

Why would an "archetype" speak out?

"For all the centuries of shouting-down the Devil has received, he has never shouted back at his detractors. He has remained the gentleman at all times, while those he supports rant and rave. He has shown himself to be a model of deportment, but now he feels it is time to shout back. He has decided it is finally time to receive his due."

**

Here is reversed xianity:
"The seven deadly sins of the Christian Church are: greed, pride, envy,
anger, gluttony, lust, and sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these "sins" as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification."
Page 46, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey

This one is rather blatant:
"An indication of the cowardice of "magicians" of the right-hand path is the practice of calling upon a particular demon (who would supposedly be a minion of the devil) to do his bidding.
The assumption is that the demon, being only a flunky of the devil, is
easier to control. Occult lore states that only the most formidably "protected" or insanely foolhardy sorcerer would try
to call forth the Devil himself. The Satanist does not furtively call upon these "lesser" devils, but brazenly invokes those who people that infernal army of long-standing outrage - the Devils themselves!"
Page 57, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey

Now, Laveyanists claim they are already "gods" well, if they are "gods" why
do they bother to call upon and invoke the Crowned Princes of Hell?
Why bother to call upon "archetypes"?

"Oh great brothers of the night, thou who makest my place of comfort, who
rideth out upon the hot winds of Hell, who dwelleth in the devil's fane; Move and appear!
Present yourselves to him (her) who sustaineth the rottenness of the mind that moves the gibbering mouth that mocks the just and strong!; rend that gaggling tongue and close his (her) throat, Oh Kali!
Pierce his (her) lungs with the stings of scorpions, Oh Sekhmet! Plunge his
(her) substance into the dismal void, Oh mighty Dagon!"
Pages 149-150, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey

"Oh great lurkers in the darkness, oh guardians of the way, oh minions of
the might of Thoth! Move and appear! Present yourselves to us in your benign power, in behalf of one who believes and is stricken with torment.
Isolate him (her) in the bulwark of your protection, for he (she) is
undeserving of anguish and desires it not..."
Page 151, The Satanic Bible (c) 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey

"If you can't conjure up a satisfactory demon lover, you can never hope to
even approach the real thing."
Page 121, (c) 1998, Satan Speaks by Anton Szandor LaVey

**
The above quotes are from LaVey and there are many, many more. If I had more time, I could present a lot more. When I was new, I read *everything*
including every link on the "Church of Satan" website. I read all of LaVey's books cover to cover and several CoS magazines- the Black Flame, the Cloven Hoof and others affiliated. The point is- all the double-talk. Now, Blanche Barton who was LaVey's secretary and live-in girlfriend and mother of his child wrote some pretty interesting things:

The Secret Life of a Satanist: The Authorized Biography of Anton LaVey" (c)
1990, 1992 by Blanche Barton:

Page 16, bottom of the page: "Hadn't anyone called forth the demons before
as their friends? I thought they surely had."

Jayne Mansfield's six-year-old son Zoltan was attacked by a lion at a zoo.
Here is what Barton writes:

Page 98: "Now as he held his cape out like great leathery wings against the
raging wind, the rain beat hard on his face, and, summoning all the power
within himself, LaVey called upon his brother Satan to spare Zoltan's life.
In remarkable time, Zoltan recovered form his wounds."

The Church of Satan (c) 1990, by Blanche Barton:

Page 93: LaVey didn't want to stand inside a feeble, chalk-drawn circle,
summoning these whirling forces in the name of "Jehovah" and flailing the
sign of the Cross in the air to protect himself. His magickal instincts told him that, if he wanted to entreat the Dark Ones to carry out his wishes, he'd best call upon them boldly, with conviction, as friends and companions, not quivering in their unholy presence."

Page 97: "We don't have to kill our God: we don't wear the instrument of his agony and death around our necks."
In the above, Barton is making a comparison between Satanists and xians.
Note, she mentions "our God." Why say this about an "archetype"?

Page 103:
"When you're faced with that decision, with that piece of paper in front of
you, declaring your allegiance to Satan for all eternity, renouncing God,
Jesus Christ, Heaven and redemption, you may find suddenly that you don't
want to go through with it. That's good. You should find out. If you do want ton align yourself with those forces completely, and you know there is no turning back, you know you can pursue the delights of the flesh without repression. "

Page 104:
"It is also dangerous for people who take part of the philosophy and try to
ignore the rest; adopt the liberation without taking responsibility. Or
using Satan's tools to gain material wealth, then not giving homage to the
Devil in some small way, in some dark subterranean grotto somewhere. Some of
the most powerful men and women in history have freely given that homage,
where no one would ever suspect, let alone discover. And their wealth and
happiness increased beyond reckoning. But you have to take responsibility
for your actions. As has been said, nobody rides for free."

Page 109:
"If you have nothing in particular you want to perform a ritual for, its
perfectly understandable you may feel a strong need to ritualize but don't
actually know why. If that's the case, develop your own kind of Dedication
Ritual, to renew and reaffirm your strength and alignment. Open the ritual
as instructed, then instead of reading one of the three suggested
invocations, speak your mind freely. in speaking directly to Satan himself,
you may discover what is in your subconscious that you can't quite bring to
the surface. Express appreciation for the direction you have received from
the Dark Lord and ask that he continue to guide you to further increase your earthly power - - you might want to write out part of your Dedication ahead of time, to spur your thoughts once you're in the chamber. Ask that he bestow ever-increasing wisdom and perspective so that you can carry out your Dark Will on the Earth. Instruct the demons you name to manifest themselves to you by increasing your earthly pleasures."

Page 110:
Keep yourself constantly aware of instructional coincidences, open to the
demons who will whisper in your ear. An old meaning of demon used to be
'muse' - - a guiding, inspirational spirit. You will get guiding signs if
you only make yourself sensitive to them."

Page 111:
"Our standards, Satan's standards, remain consistently high."

The above quotes are only a few. There are so many major discrepancies. The
"archetype" image is an insult and a blasphemy to Satan. Satan is *very*
real! Many of us have seen him face to face and have even had the privilege
of conversing with him. If he wasn't real, how many of you who have been
following the bullshit of the past year in regards to me and the JoS, think
I would still be sitting here typing?? How many powerful curses have been
thrown at me?? I can assure you all I am fine and quite happy. I also know
of a few enemies of mine who are fucking dead.

Satan and his Demons have suffered. It is an abomination and a blasphemy
that the organization that so blatantly uses his name denies him. This is
appalling. Also, charging people high membership dues and then booting them
out on a whim (this happened to a member of the JoS of whom the CoS accused
of "Devil worship") is bullshit.

*****

High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

How can they say that we are reverse xians? WTF?????? Â What proof do they supposedly use to back up this claim? From what I have ascertained, their website gives no real guidance. Â They perceive Satan an archetype, and the rest has already been said in previous posts. Â How do they call themselves Satanists when they do the rituals, ask Satan for things, and end their rituals with the Keys in the Satanic Bible that HP Maxine exposed as blaspheme towards Father Satan and the Demons?Â

Hail, Satan!


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From: "mleskela@..." <mleskela@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?


Â
yeah,those Laveyans call themselves a CHURCH.They might as well be on the other side.And they say we are a bunch of reverse christians.Fuckin idiots.
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diznit26 <diznit26@... wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@ wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Catlovers Foreva]

No such thing as reverse xtian,reverse satanist maybe,think about it?They stole everything from us(xtians n ilk),n twist it,who is the reversal of who?So like an jEW to play innocence n blame others!Hail iblis.

On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:34 PDT Tammy Arnold wrote:

How can they say that we are reverse xians? WTF??????  What proof do they supposedly use to back up this claim? From what I have ascertained, their website gives no real guidance.  They perceive Satan an archetype, and the rest has already been said in previous posts.  How do they call themselves Satanists when they do the rituals, ask Satan for things, and end their rituals with the Keys in the Satanic Bible that HP Maxine exposed as blaspheme towards Father Satan and the Demons? 

Hail, Satan!


________________________________
From: "mleskela@..." <mleskela@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?


 
yeah,those Laveyans call themselves a CHURCH.They might as well be on the other side.And they say we are a bunch of reverse christians.Fuckin idiots.
Sent from my LG phone

diznit26 <diznit26@... wrote:

Most of them are laveyans like many said in this thread, they don't believe Satan is real. Laveyans are not Satanists, just atheists who call themselves Satanists. There are many people who call themselves Satanists but do things against him either because of ignorance or delusion, such as those who think our Gods are "evil" and abuse them using jewish crap. Yes, Satan has said that many times, and he's even said that he doesn't like the way he was "worshipped" in the past, with that I mean all that sacrifices and being "evil" crap.

Did you see the JoS site and the graphics on it?They don't have any circles. Look at the baphomet in the front page of this group. So not "any" site has circles.

Here is a ton of baphomets without circles:

http://satansgraphix.webs.com/index.htm

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "brwnstwnh" <brwnstwnh@... wrote:

Every baphomet I see on the web has a circle around it,they're even sold by sites that sell ritual satanic items,ru sure the circle is offensive,y would a shop run by satanists sell offensive stuff,wouldn't they be afraid of invoking fathers wrath?did father Satan even say its offensive,did he tell u?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "diznit26" <diznit26@ wrot
You shouldn't even ask this this way, if you did something offensive but didn't know that it is offensive then of course Satan understands that because you didn't know it, you can't offend him without knowing it. If you did something offensive without knowing, just don't do it next time. Satanism isn't about begging for forgiveness or something, because Satan is very understanding.

I'm not sure about the pentagram, but the baphomet shouldn't have any circles around it.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lefthandedpath" <drones91@ wrote:


WELL, I always wear an inverted pentagram which is attached inside a circle. does this mean that I have offended father?

 

[Allyson Ford]

I fully understand where you are getting at! Knowledge  is the greatest tool an weapon of them all!  Most of the time JOS egroup is a great way to learn (unless someone is having a bad day!). No question is a stupid question- to ask a question is Better than to assume.  
Hail Satan!!! Hail Amun-Ra!!!

-Allyson Ford 

On Aug 10, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Tammy Arnold <thecatwoman3@... wrote:

  I agree.  In the last 24 hours that has been proven to me.  There is a reason for all things.  Sometimes we are wrong about something, and only when we say something do we learn we are wrong.  I don't mean this about  your Baphomet either. I meant myself, but how do we know we are wrong unless we study and ask questions, or post something and someone corrects us? I want to learn. I can be taught.  I can be corrected.  And, I can admit when I am wrong.  I like coming on here because I have learned lately.  Knowledge IS power.  I am grateful for this group!!!!
Hail, Satan!!
From: Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@...
To: "[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]" <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  The Baphomet symbol I have I mainly kept Baphomet in my mind I never thought of LaVey when I wore them it was always for Baphomet. I don't believe I could offended anyone with that my intentions knowledge is how we grow into ourselves sometimes. This information was posted for a reason  Hail Satan!!! Hail Amun-Ra!! 
-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <[url=mailto:thecatwoman3@...]thecatwoman3@...[/url] wrote:

  Yeah, I understand what you mean about keeping connections private...I was asking because most of the necklaces I have found are made cheap and discolor or they have those circles on them, which, until recently I had no idea it made much difference.  You learn something new every day I guess.  I will search the Internet for others, and have a suspicion I will find the right one.  Thanks anyway...and yes, do get it. If it is as you say, and I know it is, grab it! lol!Hail, Satan!
From: Allyson Ford <[url=mailto:dectotaku34@...]dectotaku34@...[/url]
To: "[e[/IMG]JoyofSatan666@yahoo[/IMG][email protected][/email][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  It's at a local store I asked once but you know they got to keep their connections private. I'm in southern California. It's a beautiful necklace that it's time for me to buy come payday lol  

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Tammy Arnold <[url=mailto:thecatwoman3@...]thecatwoman3@...[/url] wrote:

  If you would be so kind as to inform me where I can get a Baphomet necklace such as the one you are describing? Thank u.
From: Allyson Ford <[url=mailto:dectotaku34@...]dectotaku34@...[/url]
To: "[e[/IMG]JoyofSatan666@yahoo[/IMG][email protected][/email][/url]
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: whats up with laveyans?

  Okay good to know thank you i like to be clear on things I don't want to make Satan or a  Demon feel disrespected. I know of a pricey Baphomet necklace that has his face enlarged and an upside down pentagram on his forehead so no circles! 

-Allyson Ford 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 10:55 PM, Catlovers Foreva <[url=mailto:catloversforeva@...]catloversforeva@...[/url] wrote:

  Just think of these,the circle thing has been a symbol for their abuse,that pretty much like wearing a cross glued with the pic of the pedo priest in front of family member that have abused by the same priest,asking does it look nice to them,it just like that.Hail iblis.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:19 PDT diznit26 wrote:

No, it's not. Circles were used to bound our Gods and in the baphomet the double circle is used to bind the baphomet together with the jewish crap around it spelling "leviathan". That's why if you notice the baphomets the JoS uses, they have no circles or hebrew letters.

A parallel to the jewish baphomet is like a baphomet with a cross on
the top of it and spelling "jesus". It's as bad as that, or maybe even worse.

--- [/IMG][email protected][/email][/url], Allyson Ford <dectotaku34@... wrote:

Is it not "right" to have a Baphomet symbol circled being a Spiritual Satanist? Sure Lavey was how I was introduced to Satan an interested but when I found joyofsatan that felt even more right.

-Allyson Ford

On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:56 PM, "sosayeththereptile" <starcraft45345@... wrote:

I think their logo, with the circle binding the Baphomet as Maxine has talked about, says all that needs to be said about these 'LaVeyan Satanists'. They were kikes from the beginning. Fakery and dishonesty comes natural to them.