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What is the proof that Zevism, or theistic Satanism/paganism in general is true?
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When you begin, your faith will be a very low %, and that is normal.
You want something shown to you, that you can see, touch, smell, hear, or smell. Today, that is understandable, but it is not realistic without having at least the faith to start walking the path.
No one here—not me, the Guardians, or the Clergy—can gave you the proof that you want. You have to seek validation by yourself through Zevism.
I will tell you, however, that Daemons/Gods exist, and one is residing in you.
You want something shown to you, that you can see, touch, smell, hear, or smell. Today, that is understandable, but it is not realistic without having at least the faith to start walking the path.
No one here—not me, the Guardians, or the Clergy—can gave you the proof that you want. You have to seek validation by yourself through Zevism.
I will tell you, however, that Daemons/Gods exist, and one is residing in you.
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I should mention, though, that if you ask the Gods, or Zeus Himself, to give you a sign, They will send you something.
It could be sacred animals, or through music, for instance.
When I first dedicated, everyday for some time crows and ravens visited by porch, sometimes in a pair, or as many as 4.
It could be sacred animals, or through music, for instance.
When I first dedicated, everyday for some time crows and ravens visited by porch, sometimes in a pair, or as many as 4.
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If one has followed logic and rationality to their best of their abilities before finding this place then every thing mentioned in the ToZ will follow said logic and will open a door to the expansion of such. Nothing else in this world has this capability and definitely not to such a high level of it.
The above was my first, along with many others here, experience to know for a fact this place and teachings are the ultimate Truth.
From here many more instances have happened such as GoldenxChilds comment, for example.
One all has to do is take the first step and try it for themselves.
The above was my first, along with many others here, experience to know for a fact this place and teachings are the ultimate Truth.
From here many more instances have happened such as GoldenxChilds comment, for example.
One all has to do is take the first step and try it for themselves.
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You can also watch this video, it may help you understand more.
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I think good proofs are testimonies, you can search for them there.
I can say that before some dangerous situations and similar things there were times i saw a raven somewhere high for example on a high tree. Raven is animal of Zeus and if it is somewhere high, that means that raven observe situation.
I believe i was protected, thats why these situations ended well for me.
I can say that before some dangerous situations and similar things there were times i saw a raven somewhere high for example on a high tree. Raven is animal of Zeus and if it is somewhere high, that means that raven observe situation.
I believe i was protected, thats why these situations ended well for me.
Couldn't that just be coincidenc though.
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What a strange "coincidence," no?
This loops back to my first message. You have to have enough faith to see for yourself. You lose nothing by being curious.
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Why wait on things outside of you and depend on external things to give you answers? Especially when some answers can only be found within? Experience it for yourself. What do you have to lose?
I also had a flock of ravens come perch outside my window on the morning of my dedication. They are associated with Odin, who is Zeus, the God of Gods.
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Don't do anything then - what for? The are sooooo many coincidences that life itself is an unknown, something random. Don't bother yourself with that and MAYBE you'll be fine.
There. This is the answer you want, you expect? Good.
Each and every one of us has those 'weird' coincidences. To question them is good, as this makes us think, but to be cynical about everything can turn you into a nihilist. We have a Purpose, and a Way.
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For me the proof exists in the doing, I know its the opposite of what you wanted to hear but its true, at least for me.
Whenever I do a Ritual to our Gods and every time I do so I feel the energy of the God afterwards, not metaphorically or poetically but literally, the magickal workings provided have literally cured me of issues the doctors said there is no cure for, yet again these were literal diagnosed physical ailments from birth that are now gone.
Our site also provides a wealth of evidence, but PROOF requires you to take the leap of faith I am afraid, I would suggest reading Plato's allegory of the cave, it is unbeknownst to most a spiritual metaphor, no matter how hard you try, no matter how keenly you search will simply not see the light of truth until you step out of the cave.
I could talk about how ever single pantheon on Earth has a Sky Father, a male God of the Sun who represents knowledge and learning, a Female God who is associated with Venus, I could explain the chances of this being a coincidence are literally 0, how cultures and peoples all came to the same conclusions about the nature of divinity when separated by race, language and of course vast at the time impassable distances.
I could talk of how each belief system fundamentally follows the same concept of "Titans" being "Slain" by a "Sky Father" to create "Order" out of "Chaos".
But that's EVIDENCE and PROOF can only be found outside the cave.
If you have more questions feel free to ask.
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I always had flocks of ravens following me, and I notice them around 2002. I can't imagine what would have happen if I would have took the time to search what was the meaning of raven.
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I should also note on top of what I said before, you are not required to fully "believe" before engaging with our meditations or even before dedicating, I was an athiest before joining the path, you can in fact take it one step at a time, Zevism is not christianity, we do not demand blind faith.
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@28teow20 okay, the above quote may be triggering for people due to the word 'faith' being abused by major, mainstearm 'religions'. If this is your case, I'll then recommend to you this - Rene Descartes' quote "I doubt therefore I am" is the best way to go about it.
Don't 'believe' if you associate 'believing' with 'blindly following some vague doctrins'.
Refuse to accept anything at face value BUT (and this is vital) investigate. Oh, and don't think you'll spend just a couple of moments researching - it will take you MUCH time.
Feel free to ask questions, and know that skepticism is okay, as long as you do not confuse it with cynicism.
Sate your curiosity - go!
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There would be none of us here if it wasn't true, because it all is things that are personally experienced and proven to ourselves every day. We all personally are able to feel all of these energies, chakras, forces, and are able to feel immediately the forces and effects of all of the mantras, rituals, and meditations. Of course we do not always receive the results of the ritual instantly, but we can feel the powerful forces strengthening and generating inside and around ourselves.
It takes time and practice to be able to feel all of these things so strongly. It may take a few months or more than a year for some people if their chakras and psychic senses are not so open to begin with. But all of us who are here for significant time, there are thousands of us who are powerfully able to feel all of these things. So asking us if any of this is real is like asking are the colors red or green real. Well can you open your eyes and see them? Or asking if salty or sweet are real. Can you taste them? Or asking if hot or cold are real. Can you feel them? For people who have practiced and worked in these ways on the advancement and strengthening of the soul, all of the forces and energy currents that we work with within our own souls, or from rituals or magical workings, are just as obvious and easily felt as any other of our senses.
This is only one piece of it. For people who have strong interest and understanding of history, there are whole volumes of historical information shared here and on our other websites. And you will not find anything incorrect or conflicting. There are thousands of pages explaining historical events and connections spanning all of the world, and across many thousands of years. Ancient Egypt and Greece, Sumeria and Mesopotamia, to the Middle Ages, to the last few hundred years, to current modern time events. All that is said is basic factual reality, so there is no confusion or no doubt about any of it. There are evidence and examples of everything. For someone with strong knowledge and interest in History, and for somebody who has a powerful and accurate Intuition, every sentence that is read is like a powerful light being shown into a previously dark corner, to illuminate many small pieces of a much larger picture of the entire history of The Gods and Humanity on Earth. All of it fits perfectly with endless examples and evidence becauae it is true.
For belief in the Gods, that is both of my previous ideas combined. There is endless and infinite examples of evidence of the Gods, both throughout all of history in all stories, writings, carvings, physical artifacts, and every other piece of historical evidence. As the Gods who created humanity, the Gods who lived on Earth, and the process of spiritual advancement and evolution which would allow a human to grow to become a God, this is the central theme of Humanity since our creation, and spread in examples in every location on Earth. In all civilizations, all cultures, in all languages. Our Gods are known and loved and remembered. And in the thousands of years of war and conflict between humanity, and the enemies of humanity and the Gods. Which are mostly jews, and the jewish inventions of christianity and islam which were written and invented by jews to control millions of slaves who do what they are commanded by jews to do. In all of human history, there is evidence and examples of basically humans working with the Gods to grow and evolve and develop, and jews or slaves of jews trying to extinct humanity and burn all language, technology, and knowledge. The same things being done today which are becoming more obvious to more people every day, is one continuous story of what has been being done for the last thousands of years.
All of us here also have personal experiences with the Gods as they are here to help us, guide us, educate us. We can feel the Gods in many ways. There are many levels of communication or receiving a sign, depending on the psychic senses and abilities of the person receiving the sign. Just as a blind person reads by feeling braille dots, or a deaf person talks with sign language. The Gods know how to communicate with each person depending on this person's senses and abilities. In feeling powerful energies and forces flowing through the body and through the soul, in emotions or intuitive ideas, in feeling like "it would just be a good idea" for you to do something, and doing that thing actually does lead to an improvement in your life. Or with people with more open senses, actually hearing the spoken words and seeing the images of Gods. These are a few examples. There are more ways for communication or a sign to be given, and even a beginner with no active psychic senses can ask the Gods for a sign, and you will receive a sign in a way that you are able to notice and understand. It could be by repeated numbers or phrases coming up repearedly in random ways like flipping television channels or radio stations, and they happen to keep saying the same phrase and this phrase or number has some kind of personal meaning to you. Or animals acting in unusual ways, like a bird or a fox paying a lot of attention to you directly and acting in a way as if it is trying to tell you something. If it is a phrase, it could be something with a personal meaning to you or something that tells you how to make an improvement in your life. If it is a number, it can be a number that is strongly and obviously associated with the Gods. If it is an animal, it can be a type of animal that is associated with a specific God. There are many more possible examples than these. The important part is that when it happens, you will notice it and you will have a powerful feeling in your intuition that this is your sign and you will know that it has some important meaning. Your attention will be strongly drawn to it, when it may be something that you never looked so closely at before.
It takes time and practice to be able to feel all of these things so strongly. It may take a few months or more than a year for some people if their chakras and psychic senses are not so open to begin with. But all of us who are here for significant time, there are thousands of us who are powerfully able to feel all of these things. So asking us if any of this is real is like asking are the colors red or green real. Well can you open your eyes and see them? Or asking if salty or sweet are real. Can you taste them? Or asking if hot or cold are real. Can you feel them? For people who have practiced and worked in these ways on the advancement and strengthening of the soul, all of the forces and energy currents that we work with within our own souls, or from rituals or magical workings, are just as obvious and easily felt as any other of our senses.
This is only one piece of it. For people who have strong interest and understanding of history, there are whole volumes of historical information shared here and on our other websites. And you will not find anything incorrect or conflicting. There are thousands of pages explaining historical events and connections spanning all of the world, and across many thousands of years. Ancient Egypt and Greece, Sumeria and Mesopotamia, to the Middle Ages, to the last few hundred years, to current modern time events. All that is said is basic factual reality, so there is no confusion or no doubt about any of it. There are evidence and examples of everything. For someone with strong knowledge and interest in History, and for somebody who has a powerful and accurate Intuition, every sentence that is read is like a powerful light being shown into a previously dark corner, to illuminate many small pieces of a much larger picture of the entire history of The Gods and Humanity on Earth. All of it fits perfectly with endless examples and evidence becauae it is true.
For belief in the Gods, that is both of my previous ideas combined. There is endless and infinite examples of evidence of the Gods, both throughout all of history in all stories, writings, carvings, physical artifacts, and every other piece of historical evidence. As the Gods who created humanity, the Gods who lived on Earth, and the process of spiritual advancement and evolution which would allow a human to grow to become a God, this is the central theme of Humanity since our creation, and spread in examples in every location on Earth. In all civilizations, all cultures, in all languages. Our Gods are known and loved and remembered. And in the thousands of years of war and conflict between humanity, and the enemies of humanity and the Gods. Which are mostly jews, and the jewish inventions of christianity and islam which were written and invented by jews to control millions of slaves who do what they are commanded by jews to do. In all of human history, there is evidence and examples of basically humans working with the Gods to grow and evolve and develop, and jews or slaves of jews trying to extinct humanity and burn all language, technology, and knowledge. The same things being done today which are becoming more obvious to more people every day, is one continuous story of what has been being done for the last thousands of years.
All of us here also have personal experiences with the Gods as they are here to help us, guide us, educate us. We can feel the Gods in many ways. There are many levels of communication or receiving a sign, depending on the psychic senses and abilities of the person receiving the sign. Just as a blind person reads by feeling braille dots, or a deaf person talks with sign language. The Gods know how to communicate with each person depending on this person's senses and abilities. In feeling powerful energies and forces flowing through the body and through the soul, in emotions or intuitive ideas, in feeling like "it would just be a good idea" for you to do something, and doing that thing actually does lead to an improvement in your life. Or with people with more open senses, actually hearing the spoken words and seeing the images of Gods. These are a few examples. There are more ways for communication or a sign to be given, and even a beginner with no active psychic senses can ask the Gods for a sign, and you will receive a sign in a way that you are able to notice and understand. It could be by repeated numbers or phrases coming up repearedly in random ways like flipping television channels or radio stations, and they happen to keep saying the same phrase and this phrase or number has some kind of personal meaning to you. Or animals acting in unusual ways, like a bird or a fox paying a lot of attention to you directly and acting in a way as if it is trying to tell you something. If it is a phrase, it could be something with a personal meaning to you or something that tells you how to make an improvement in your life. If it is a number, it can be a number that is strongly and obviously associated with the Gods. If it is an animal, it can be a type of animal that is associated with a specific God. There are many more possible examples than these. The important part is that when it happens, you will notice it and you will have a powerful feeling in your intuition that this is your sign and you will know that it has some important meaning. Your attention will be strongly drawn to it, when it may be something that you never looked so closely at before.
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