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What Do You Want To See From ToZ?

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos1 min to read

That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Zevism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

What would you like to see from ToZ towards this world?

#42
Aleksandresaid:
Big Dippersaid:

when I was new, I was just doing the basic meditations for years not moving on to other, stronger meditations. I wish we had a "meditation tier list". Not in terms of usefulness, but in terms of "you do this for this number of times a day for this many days ( basic aura cleaning for 60 days (i dont know)) then you could start to move on to higher one's like raum cleaning or runic cleaning. 3rd eye opening with thaum for however many days, then you could do the dagaz rune instead for however many days, or whatever. This sounds like it would be hard to calculate since people advance at different rates tho.

Something like this, but much better:

3rd eye opening for (days?) and after that many days you can swap to ----> dagaz rune for (reps?) for (days?) ---------------->
or ----> (something else that's stronger) (reps?) for (days?)->
then -----> (something even stronger?)
or -----> (something even stronger?)

Good idea. I think the same. You finish 40 day programme and face the ocean of information. Maybe the more guidance is better.

There is also the 6 month program.

"Human beings must become enlightened in order to find their way in the dark. Becoming enlightened means becoming smart travelers, who acquire knowledge of the way, an understanding of the local language and friendship with other travelers. We are all travelers in eternity." Thoth

#43

Given the information and the quality of life that the Ministry of JoS spread, I want to see it at the top, the spiritual column of the world.

A physical approach is difficult, because it exposes the members too much, and it is constrained by the physical locations and dangers. Thanks to the Internet, many of these constraints disappear.

Thus, on one side, the Ministry must be known world-wide, and has to become the center of the spiritual world.

On the other side, each member must elevate and reach higher levels of consciousness, thanks to which each of us will learn how to affect the physical world, in a secret and secure way, in order to increase the overall quality of the world. It's imperative to advance spiritually, because only by these means we come to understand what is good and what is true, and what are the best decisions to take.

Apollo's Astrology: https://www.astroapollo.org

#44

I would like to see updated info on Azazel's astrology page. I am referring to the info on DarkMoon, LotofFortune, Ketu and (South/DragonTail), Rahu (North/Dragonhead).

#45

I think a lot of very thorough introspection work should be encouraged for new people. I'm doing that introspection work that is put as the first step in the Hermetic Initiation and personally I'm regretting that I didn't start it earlier, also astrology is very useful for this work so I agree with Egon's request.

Of course I'm also doing daily the introspection meditation you posted the last year but I think it's very easy for new people to underestimate this kind of work because of course in the beginning you are just curious about sensing energy and you don't care much about knowing who you really are . Or at least that has been my case, I'm sure there are people who are more introspective by nature who advance faster.

Pythia had written that she was going to create a more advanced program to be done after the six months program, I would love if she worked on it to have it published.

#46

Reading all these replies I don't know what to add. I definitely want the Jos to become the library of Alexandria of the real spirituality, I know its already an objective but this is my wish, a more perfected way to learn spirituality and advance.

About the troll who said we can't ask here when the next updates are going to be, It's not true, I've asked many times myself and I was always answered, there is no need to keep asking because I do understand if it's not happening there is a serious reason behind it. It will happen when it happens and it will be good. Hopefully soon because I can't wait to read it, in the meantime let's keep advancing with what we have.

#48

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

As someone who dedicated himself, almost 5 years ago. It has helped me a lot, I got wiser despite of my young age. I have avoided many useless distractions and stuff people my age did that led them to self-destruction. For that, I am grateful, for every word of knowledge that was shared here.

As somebody who daydreams about a future where the entire globe has joined satanism and is willing to do the work to improve themselves and do their best to make the Gods happy, I think it will lead to lots of people discovering themselves and the entire population of Earth will improve as a whole. People might take some time to accept satanism, even if they find out about it, after all, humanity has been through thousands of years of curses.

But, just thinking that the JoS community grows exponentially truly makes me happy, always made me not feel so lonely, in a world where almost everyone hates satanism. I just imagine how much our civilization will improve if there are, say, 100 million satanists! That would lead to a tremendous change!!

I wish to see no more suffering.

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

I'm already acting in this direction, can't publicly say much on the forum. But I am willing to do my part, to help Satanism and the world, in my way :)

The only thing I can say is that my JoS Android App has already 70 active users, in 2 months and a half :)

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

The more numbers, the more energy, the more energy, the more awareness, the more awareness, the better direction :)

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

Definitely temples, and IRL libraries full of the wisdom of the Gods :)

I'm still learning, the same way as you do, the same way as we all do.

Zevist Since 15 Jan 2018 | LAURENTUM'S PROJECTS ARCHIVE |

#49

I’d like to see more information regarding crystals and herbs, such as their properties, what element they correspond to, which planet or Deity they are associated with, etc.

#50
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

I don't like focusing the conversation too much on myself

I understand how you perceive it, and my point of view is that you are being too humble, because the fact is... That you are an inspiration to many people here, you are seen like a divine individual, and even higher to people like me. Knowing more about you is always something that I'm looking towards to, they way you did it, ecc And I'm pretty sure most dedicated Zevism feel the same.

I am reaching towards a green apple.

#51
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

A useful thing to do would be to enrich knowledge and understanding about Meditation and the attainment of subtle or astral things. There is sufficient information and understanding about these things but having more will only do good.

It would be good to have more information on breathing exercises i.e. Pranayama and Prana or Chi. I also consider Pratyahara and Samadhi important.

Another important section to add would be, the management of the Mind (with all its attendant things such as thoughts, emotions, desires and so on).

#52

JoS has changed my life. I made many mistakes in the past and it inspired me to keep growing and not wallow in negative energy. It feels amazing to have meaning and fight for a better future. I also have less fear in any situation and have been able to develop stronger willpower when I used to be so weak and ready to give up. I am grateful for the information and for those who have helped me and others in our paths. I hope we can one day reach a point where we have an even stronger sense of community and maybe have rituals and celebrations in person. It seems to be a long way off in the worlds current state. I wish I could volunteer my time without secrecy. I hope we can achieve a better future and civilization.

HAIL ZEUS
Hail Eligos

#53

I've yet to read all the suggestions and answer in this topic but I have had ideas for a while too. I know each minute one such as you wastes is a step our entire Serpent Brotherhood could have taken but did not, so I appreciate this opportunity and thank you for giving us the microphone sometimes, HP Zevios Metathronos.

In order not to divulge too much or demand you do the same and as such, inadvertently harm "bigger" plans, I won't be too forward. But I would ask you to more openly share "higher" spiritual knowledge. I mean in terms of practice, not just theory.

I am aware that there is already effort in the works here and there are bits and pieces shared all around, but you also make comments that honestly give me impatient itches - like how you once said that "Runes are mid-level magick at best". We have "stronger" stuff too but not by much much more and it's mostly scattered. I can also say the same about meditations - we have by far the most powerful stuff on the internet but some things require updates (such as how the King & Queen on the Meditations page on the JoS isn't even the "full" version that HPS Pythia posted several years ago on the Yahoo Groups, you probably remember exactly what I am talking about). Also the idea that there are probably "higher" tiers of magick that I am not even scratching the surface of makes my Aquarian seeker side itch something fierce.

I am also aware first-hand that some information needs to be released with awareness, gradually and bit by bit, so as not to let people burn out or much worse, give enemy agents the opportunity to obtain more power to use against us. I was also instructed to be similarly careful in a very similar topic in the past, so I know you aren't holding out on us because of personal wishes (if it can even be called holding out), but that your hands are tied, High Priest.

I am only making this request with the awareness that you are, for now, still "only human" and cannot think of every matter at the same time - so mostly see this as a reminder, please. I'd ask you to meditate on this matter, maybe ask for the Gods to give you new directions and recalibrate your approach ever so slightly, if needed. Maybe the coast is a little bit clearer now after all our collective work such that we can handle a little bit higher level of advanced and openly given information. Maybe not. You'll know best. I just felt like reminding you could help.

Don't mind the join date, something of a prior long-term lurker. We can't just read and consume forever, it's the best time to share now of all times.

#54

https://youtu.be/SgD3JDkIhZE . 4 : 40 . 17 : 45 .. Joy of Satan is in the top 10. This is what I want to see.. JoS is actually known world wide. These people might be skeptics,, but , people are seeing the website. And,,, those that are meant for this will find it.

#55

Under the section where there is the "Health Forum, Pet Forum, Astrology Forum", I wonder if we can have a place for Art by our fellow brothers and sisters. Art has been greatly perverted and turned into a joke in the mainstream by the enemy, but it's an important creative expression. Though I've seen a thread for people to post their art under, a proper place for the artwork to be showcased and share beautiful Satanic things in writings, paintings, music etc, I think would be a lovely addition to the forums personally.

#56

I’m a beginner, so please forgive me if some things are already said/done. I would like to see a few things :
- Some tutorials on Astrology prediction. I understand my natal chart but I lack the knowledge to make good prediction.
- Perhaps an average time necessary to succeed in workings, in order to not despair if we do not see immediate results. Exemple : opening crown : few months, kundalini 1 year, etc.
- Instructions after the 40 days program. Currently, one have to search whole site to find some (6 months training, square, etc.)
- Perhaps a method to help christians see the errors on their « religion ». Ex : what can we say to convince some family members to try yoga (without reveling anything spirituality, which will make them go away) ?

#57

I am very grateful for my knowledge and experiences since coming to JOS. I have felt very looked after and cared for in many different ways. It is interesting to see this because I have had recent thoughts of us in the long run ending up funding a place for people to come to learn about astrology, and for meditation and yoga and ultimately the Gods, like a school of sorts, but this is something I think for the far far future and it might not be safe right now especially out in the open.

Especially due to the JOS being translated into many different languages, I hope to see more and more people coming to Satan here in droves even. With that being said I think spreading the word around as well as some online campaigns, especially with spreading around the newly translated sites, are well due in the coming future, especially to help JOS expand and grow even further, which it has been doing also.

As for the present and near future I look forward to us bringing more knowledge and updates about learning about our Gods, and becoming even closer to them, as well as any new meditations or divination methods that would be useful, updates on astrological knowledge, and so on, with possibly even reaching out to other suitable Zevism to assist with gathering any useful information that can help with this. I am sure you do a lot by yourself in this department which at times can be pretty demanding. This brings me to something else.

I think our forums would benefit from having more mods, especially ones that are available with more free time to moderate these forums more strictly and properly to prevent us from wasting our time with trolls and other things as well as to keep post traffic going at a steady pace, which can be made easier by having more suitable hands on the crew I think, if possible. (i am sure our current few are quite overburdened and have been for some time.)

Furthermore, I would like to see the forum base continue to grow and mature with less bickering and more unity, although in some cases this is not always avoidable because no two people will ever be the same. Point however is in how an argument is conducted and how something is presented, ideally assertively versus aggressively and with respect. If we are to bring more people to us it is imperative that this general forum base grows up a bit, and gives more of a serious impression. To do this there honestly needs to be a change in how some people approach things here and how they treat others.

There have been sermons made on this in the past and not everyone adheres to it. I know there are a lot of young people here, the majority even, but if outsiders look in and see how some people have approached things they will not always get the greatest impression. Bringing me to one more point. You guys may or may not agree or like this very much depending on the person...but I REALLY think stuff like the anime avatars give a childish and immature image of JOS as well as the forums. It basically gives others the image of children or teens having an online pow-wow versus grown-up serious people who are trying to advance in the occult and getting close to the Old Gods. I do realize that a lot of anime is tailored to adults, but that is not what outsiders will think of at their first glance here at a cartoon picture.

Look at many of the ancient occult circles from ancient times. I am pretty sure they were taken seriously and got down to serious business instead of posting cutsie or cartooney pics online and engaging in mindless drama or getting feelings butthurt over nothing. Take it or leave it, if you want to advance it's time to grow up. I'm just being honest, and am saying all this because I care about JOS, this forum, and our people and even one in it.

On another note, I also very much like the idea in the past that was presented with putting Bigot boy's master squares app on a website that we all could access. This includes his new master rune app that was made which I think looks great.

When all the sites are translated into all the languages I hope to see a forum section for each language if possible, for the people who cannot read or speak English, with mods for each, ideally native speakers. We have this now also I believe for the few languages we do have at the present moment. This way sermons and other important things can be translated and posted consistently for everyone around the world.

As far as the great progress made so far, it is excellent and I only hope we keep moving forward.

HAIL ZEUS!

#58
Jackie Puppetsaid:

Many people may be afraid to say it but we need more updates and transparency regarding HPS Pythia and her current/future status.

We don't.
HPS Pythia has done more than enough, she has her reasons to go undercover like this.
If you can not respect that, go fuck yourself.

[ email redacted ]

"Don’t quit. Suffer now,
and live the rest of your life as a Champion.“

Read the Temple of Zeus: Learn the truth and knowledge that has been secret and forbidden for MILLENIA!!

STAND TALL, BE PROUD, BE STRONG, YOU ARE PART OF ZEUS‘S HOUSE!

HAIL LADY INANNA!!
HAIL LORD APOLLO!!
HAIL BAAL-ZEBULON!!
HAIL FATHER ZEUS!!

#59
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

What I personally would appreciate is that the JoS promotes Father Satan, the crowned Princess of Hell and the Demons even more.
Your Sermons are helpful for understanding, and for some reason whenever I hit a wall or something like that, your Sermons had the key information/motivation to understand my issues and approach at times (Are you able to look into our heads? :P)

But what Helped me the most was the advanced Information about the Crowned Princess of Hell, and the feelings and connection which this focus induced in my soul & mind. By this I progressed much faster, simply because I connected deeper to the Gods by this, who led me by intuition in my meditations and life.

After all, I believe this path is all about Satan and the Gods and being close to them. This way people make the best progress possible.

So in short, what I personally want to see is Content that connect Satanists to Satan and the Gods (just like the advanced Information about Father Satan, Lord Apollo, Lady Inanna and Baal-Zebul).

[ email redacted ]

"Don’t quit. Suffer now,
and live the rest of your life as a Champion.“

Read the Temple of Zeus: Learn the truth and knowledge that has been secret and forbidden for MILLENIA!!

STAND TALL, BE PROUD, BE STRONG, YOU ARE PART OF ZEUS‘S HOUSE!

HAIL LADY INANNA!!
HAIL LORD APOLLO!!
HAIL BAAL-ZEBULON!!
HAIL FATHER ZEUS!!

#60
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

That's an open discussion thread where ideas can be shared. Could be about now or about decades later, or more generalized things. Not many limits placed on any questions, this is more like a walk into the higher worlds that we could have?

We have the 10 year plan of course. But I would like to hear about more.

How has Satanism affected you and how do you see that this might affect others in the future?

Well to put it simply it's given me my life back, in more ways than one; my sense of self, peace and happiness that I'm not sure when the last time I felt such. I have purpose in my life, and direction. I have goals and dreams that I want to reach again, where before I had lost sight of anything. I was saved from the damage of a cult, to put things into perspective.

There are going to be many who come here over time, some maybe with a similar situation, others worse, others more pleasant life experiences. All of them will be affected in the same way, once their eyes are open to it, their lives will improve and themselves in deeper levels than they'll ever know alone. That's truly valuable and meaningful to anybody who wants to get out of the negative drain hole the enemy has caused the world to be in, and from it many things are going to get better for everyone.

What about the future where more people will see the Truth, how do you see yourself and others in all this?

Not sure yet, I'll still be here, but how I see myself, I think I need to continue putting things into place and sorting things out before I have a clear idea of that. Though some day sooner rather than later, I hope to see a revival of peoples sense of their people, stronger than ever, and synchronisation between the races to build a great power on the human level against the enemy.

Why do you think that is important that it happens on a higher scale?

Many humans have lost the notion of kinship, connection, family.... people are craving it, but they can't yet trust each other, because of programmings. An awakening of that again would be of great benefit to our cause. Right now, humanity's power is divided. Even if much of humanity is weakened, with numbers and working together, the power the world had stolen from it can be reborn.

What would you like to see from JoS towards this world?

Someday, when everything is safer and the enemy is just dust, more than most things I really want to see the return of physical libraries full of knowledge again. Like the Library of Alexandria.

In the mean time, refer to my first comment posted before this one.

#61
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

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What I think is most important would also be the most difficult and take the most time and work. But expanding the information about all of the gods and creating the individual rituals for all of the gods.

#62

One idea I have is to expand into other areas that are less spiritual and more practical. Lifestyle guidelines, common sense, etc, all from a Satanic perspective, but not overtly Satanic. Even random wholesome topics like how to grow fresh vegetables! All we need are members who are knowledgeable to write good articles. (This would not result in a decrease in the amount of spiritual knowledge we publish, since that mostly comes from the clergy, and these would be written by ordinary members.)

These sections would serve to expand our reach by attracting people for other reasons, and of course every page would link back to the Joy of Satan. :D