The Air Element (quick information)

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You should already know aither is the source of all elements, so I don't understand your confusion. It's normal for aither to have every property the four elements have. Gravity is also one of the fundamental forces, different from electromagnetism and from the atomic forces (strong and weak). Just because X and Y have something in common, it doesn't mean that X = Y. Two triangles may have three angles, but the angles may differ in degree, even if they're sum remains the same. The sides will also have different lengths, thus the two triangles will be different.

Take into account that electrons have negative polarity and protons positive polarities. So they're more like feminine and masculine parts of the soul respectively. Neutrons are like the middle/4th chakra. At the atomic level, you're no longer working with elements but with deeper forces underlining the elements. I'm not saying you're assumption for air is incorrect. I'm just saying it's only partially correct. Let's not see this in black and white.

The way you explained your reasons for Uranus and Mercury answers itself. "They share", "they have similarities", but they're not the same. You may see them as mathematical sets that intersect. But we're oversimplying here, as the picture is much more complex than that. The more we advance, the better we see the picture and it's details. I'm amazed and astonished whenever I think about how the Gods and the Supreme God (Father Zeus) must understand the deeper mechanics of the universe. It's always interesting when we Zevists discuss about it and learn from each other's insights. I'm aware I'm not all-knowing and that omniscience doesn't exist, and I'm still learning like everyone else here. My path doesn't come without my share of mistakes and incorrect assumptions.

I see rulerships and exaltments as synergy, while detriments and falls like contrasting energies. If you notice, except the Sun, every planet either co-rules, has double rulership and/or is exalted in signs that have different elements. For example, Mars spans three signs of three different elements (fire, water and earth) and Venus does too (earth, air, water). What do you see them like?

P.S. It's nice for once to have a conversation where no-one immediately feels attacked and goes on the defensive.

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Before replying to your post, I would like to address a former statement of yours where you assert that certain offensive manifestations of the air element require being very proficient and advanced with this element, and also add a few things to those manifestations.

While I do agree that doing those things physically do certainly require an enormous amount of proficiency, I believe working from the spiritual side is different. You can just visualise your opponent, preferably when they are sleeping, and breathe the element inside them by using the air invocation meditation but forcing it into them, instead of invoking it into yourself. After filling their aura and their chakra, or even specifically a physical part of the body or the body or the soul in general, you may program this energy to accomplish your goal and stay a couple of minutes while visualising it acting upon your programming.

For the second addition, there are also non-physical effects of air that can be utilised, such bringing the negative trait of the element to excessive levels inside of your target. There are many ways to approach offensive uses of the elements and I remark that one should do so with an open mind.

I won't be giving you a straight answer about causing physical lightning bolt. Instead, I invite you to study these manifestation first from a physical point of view (physics, especially quantum physics, and meteorology). That should give you enough hints to trigger your feminine side of the brain and meditate upon it.

That's all I have to say on the matter. Regarding the element described on the Demon's list, have you tried asking your Guardian? I'm sure they'd be able to give you a better answer that I ever could until (and if ever) I catch up to them, which I think would take tens of thousands of years anyway lol

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I just want to say I really love your passion about everything. I know how exciting it is to discover connections that lead to more connections that lead to revelations upon revelations.

You definitely are strong with the air element that's for sure, I can tell. You thoroughly love to communicate and share things, write, record your findings, study and really love the power of mental aspects. You're very imaginative and have a lot of creative inspiration. These are all aspects solely of the air element.

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I know you told me stick to the basic but can you text me the basic to develop telekinesis I feel I don’t have enough time bro and what must be done I know foundation and hand chakras meditation what else please tell me I need help

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Thanks for the reply, it's pretty much what I thought myself before asking actually. You're right. Guess I'll eventually get to the solution myself by reaching into it and discovering how storms work more in detail from a physics point of view (already have but I'm no meteorologist of course), there are still many things I don't know of course.

And yeah, the astral effects of Elements are pretty clear (HP Pythia mentions some too in the ToZ), that's why I asked about the physical ones here, needing a brainstorming from different sources, and I have to say I'm very satisfied with all the answers I got. It makes a lot more sense now for me to embrace Air and follow my instincts, telling me my Element holds more answers than I thought.
The reason I asked about the physical effects was merely because the object of my destruction is not a person (not necessarily and not yet at least), but something that could easily be disposed of by "frying" it with the one thing it depends on in order to function, electricity, hence, lightning.
Must say, I find Air to be exceptionally more interesting since I started perceiving it's also where electricity itself comes from. Astral meets physical, that's what I needed. I always think we should all visit and explore both aspects with these energies.

And as for my Guardian, I don't have the exceptional ability to understand Her yet, but I'll get there once I deal with enough bullshit through the Ritual, which is something miraculous for me. I never felt this easily, and (stupid me) I never before realized my lack of sensitivity wasn't because of a lack from myself but because I was constantly being cursed into ignorance and banishing from the vermins that hate us. The Ritual itself is a massive weapon to get myself rid of their obstacles, so I'm very positive and determined to fix this. I started with one measly Ritual, than a full one and a shorter one, now twice a day (morning and evening) and I'm working on increasing them as I discover more and more about what I've been missing.

I met (briefly) Father Zeus, but it was an excellent experience, positive and rinvigorating. Then Zeus answered my questions. My Guardian isn't so far ahead. I just have to be persistent and increase my effort, as we all have to.

I know you told me stick to the basic but can you text me the basic to develop telekinesis I feel I don’t have enough time bro and what must be done I know foundation and hand chakras meditation what else please tell me I need help

Time and training are extremely important, especially in developing skills like Telekinesis. TK is definitely no joke, I always felt it would be one of the most defining abilities to have and work on. The foundation meditation is probably the best one to get started with as it creates that "relationship" between your Soul and everything around you, getting you a feel for the environment. (I remember someone here saying Telekinesis requires one to become one "with the room" they're in, even if it's only in order to move a dice on a table. If you're the room, the dice is just a teeny tiny something, easy and nearly weighless.)
The other obvious important thing are hand chakras, as you direct your energy through them and decide how much, the direction, how long and all things about what you intend to move. And IF you can't feel your hand chakras (strongly suggest a good dose of Rituals before you exercise here), start focusing on your shoulder chakras as they will help the energy flow to your hands and feeling them will become much easier. I used to train only the hand chakras and never could feel them, I felt SOMEthing, experienced some sort of tactile perception (astral touch, if you will), but not as much as when I started working on my shoulders some. The shoulders are, in theory (couldn't do it yet so I can't know for a fact yet), where the Soul's wings generate. When they do, your energy based abilities will multiply in power enormously in my opinion, and learning beautiful abilities like TK will be much easier. Try working on your shoulders chakras then, and I suggest as well all those chakras that are considered often "minor", but still have important tasks.
If you have a good enough ability to feel energy, I suggest chakra breathing (the one by Azazel, I think) in order to empower them in an easy enough way and get a feel for them. You can even link more meditations together if you like, but try not to complicate things unnecessarily.

Hope that helps, best of luck. Spam the Rituals before you do these meditations and exercises, it'll clear you of a tonne of shit in your Soul and make things many times easier. That much I know for a fact.

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You should already know aither is the source of all elements, so I don't understand your confusion. It's normal for aither to have every property the four elements have. Gravity is also one of the fundamental forces, different from electromagnetism and from the atomic forces (strong and weak). Just because X and Y have something in common, it doesn't mean that X = Y. Two triangles may have three angles, but the angles may differ in degree, even if they're sum remains the same. The sides will also have different lengths, thus the two triangles will be different.

Take into account that electrons have negative polarity and protons positive polarities. So they're more like feminine and masculine parts of the soul respectively. Neutrons are like the middle/4th chakra. At the atomic level, you're no longer working with elements but with deeper forces underlining the elements. I'm not saying you're assumption for air is incorrect. I'm just saying it's only partially correct. Let's not see this in black and white.

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You're right I seem to have completely forgotten about the aspects to Aether, if I'm honest I don't focus on it as a primary like I do the other elements so I think I've been subconsciously treating it more as an outcast of sorts when really it's the foundation of everything. I've even said this many times but I think it was in a relaying fashion and not a means that I thoroughly took in through all it's depths. I'll have to keep note of paying more attention to it and it's factors overall.

The electron polarity you've stated too makes sense in comparison of the feminine and masculine and that too in the spiritual aspect does have a lot of underlying obscure complexities that tie into a multitude of other things. In my perception I think I may have narrowed the tunnel too much, the information I attain is very generalized because I often look at the whole picture and very seldom am I able to get the minute details or usually I don't dwell on them because this is where there is far too much room for misinterpretations and mistakes in information. For these matters I much prefer actual written research and study which can broaden my understanding further.

Also I really like your analogy to the triangles, their angles and overall sum, this is very true and I'm actually impressed to read something so esoteric from a fellow Zevist. And again with the planets, yes I based this upon feel and a general bias of likenesses, because it just seems in some ways the universe has a lot of connections to other related entities. You're right though in that there is multiple other factors and complexities of deeper influences that can have a hand in specified matters. My general focus kind of blinds me to the existence of these deeper existential things and I'll have to pay more attention to this.

Also your regards to the planets with synergies and contrasting energies is exactly what I was talking about. In fact my original written post to you before I deleted it and decided to rewrite it (I do this a lot to fix and avoid potential misinformation, inaccuracies, uncertainties or anything related in what I write) was going to dive much further in this, but I stated it too much as fact when it's more theory. So in the safe boundaries of theory I'm comfortable in sharing that I feel the exact way you do regarding the planets exaltations and falls, etc with synergies and contrasts.

Now I'm going to clarify first I am never saying that the planets only rule/charge or are of only one element, it might have seemed that way but that's not what I meant, they very clearly can be more than one. In regards to what you've stated this was also why I felt Mercury and Uranus were of the air element in some manner. My belief is that the factors of a sign, whether this is element, properties, rulerships, influences, etc again with the supposed 'likeness law' of the universe, coincide with planets of the same or similar aspects/properties. And when they are in a sign where the properties, element, aspects contrast the planet's own in some way than this is the contrast of energies which weakens the planet's influence, thus it's power, etc.

For example, Mercury rules Gemini and Virgo, an air sign and an earth sign respectively and Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, another air sign. These signs are of the properties, aspects, elements, etc that Mercury's energies rule over, thus this is the synergy application where the double of energy influences empowers the whole, thus the planet's influences are stronger. Mercury is weakened in Sagittarius, leo and pisces, two fire signs and a water sign. These signs greatly oppose Mercury's controlled and logical aspects as these signs are of emotion, wild energies, properties and aspects that counter the planet's energies and they are of the elements that Mercury seems to have very little to nothing to do with, so they are upsetting forces that ruin the balance.

Jupiter as well of which seems to have heavy aspects and properties with Fire, Water and Aether (This is also why I think it's a very beneficial planet as these 3 are very balanced elements together that counter one another's negative influences). This is why it is empowered with the synergies of Sagittarius, Pisces and Cancer, a fire sign and two water signs and why it is weakened in Gemini, Virgo and Capricorn, an air sign and two earth signs, their elements and properties contrast and oppose what makes up the energies and influences of the planet.

And again with Uranus, it's properties and rulerships cater to the air and water element, it is empowered in Aquarius and Scorpio an air and water sign and is weakened in Taurus and Leo, an earth and fire sign. They are empowered and strengthened by what they are of, the double enforced and weakened by what they are not. These are the connections that enforces my feelings upon what is what and how something works, etc, etc. Connections link to other connections in my gathering of knowledge from the akasha and this enforces a definitive feel of 'knowing' that is constructed from the whole of the picture. This is not perfect but the more I come across, the more pieces that seem to fit together to form some kind of conclusive assessment.

I definitely don't claim to know all and certainly don't hold to my beliefs if I'm proven wrong or incorrect as I can definitely make mistakes, but for the most part if I strongly feel like the information I know is accurate then more often than not, especially as of late as I've grown more advanced, it's proven such, not just by members of which information I've shared over the years has vastly helped them but also by some clergy. I've said it many times but when I say I do zero research on what I share I mean I do zero research. If on any account I come across small facts and pieces of information that are then able to provide the attainment of knowledge on a whole other spectrum.

Intuition is a very strange ability but it's a double-edged sword. I used to throw every little thing out there like it was solid fact but nowadays I'm 666% more careful with what I say. It has to make sense, it has to have a foundation, some sort of strong basis, and it has to work before I share it. In any event I do thoroughly enjoy research and reading and the more I come to know through this and through other more informed members the better I'm able to make connections and suddenly 'know' other things.

I made a thread explaining void meditation, the ins and outs to how it works, what it does and why... all I did one day to get all of that information was read a small article on outer space. How accurate it actually is? I don't have a solid value... but because it feels strongly accurate, makes sense, has a foundation and works... it likely holds to something.

Ultimately I'm a stubborn individual as per just who I am, but I remain open to change, I am always willing to change at the end of the day and force myself to look at things objectively when I need to. So overall I do love being corrected because I want to know truth and I want to share truth. In truth there is power and strength in every form, and these are things I thoroughly value.

I also appreciate the absence of hostility in discussion like this. We're not here to hurt each others feelings, as a community unit our goal is to help everyone as a whole and I wouldn't be where I am if I didn't have anyone to correct me when I was wrong or to direct me when I was misguided. When I feel conflicted with something or in disagreement I usually give myself time to digest it to make a proper and full-formed judgement call, sometimes it can take a lot of time even. Based upon how accurate the information given is, I could remain holding to what I feel or change over in agreement.

And with that, as an example, I will say honestly with no hard feelings or hostility that I still feel strongly that Uranus and Mercury are of the air element in some form or other. We can of course continue to discuss further.

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I just want to say I really love your passion about everything. I know how exciting it is to discover connections that lead to more connections that lead to revelations upon revelations.

You definitely are strong with the air element that's for sure, I can tell. You thoroughly love to communicate and share things, write, record your findings, study and really love the power of mental aspects. You're very imaginative and have a lot of creative inspiration. These are all aspects solely of the air element.

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I know you told me stick to the basic but can you text me the basic to develop telekinesis I feel I don’t have enough time bro and what must be done I know foundation and hand chakras meditation what else please tell me I need help

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Don't fool yourself, you will not develop telekinesis if you can't even feel energy. You don't build a pyramid from the top.

And with that, as an example, I will say honestly with no hard feelings or hostility that I still feel strongly that Uranus and Mercury are of the air element in some form or other. We can of course continue to discuss further.

Alright. That's enough for me. Thank you for the discussion. I don't like oversharing publicly and I have already done enough on this public. We can leave it here or you can find my email address in a link in my signature. Thank you for the conversation up until now. It was a nice discussion.

And with that, as an example, I will say honestly with no hard feelings or hostility that I still feel strongly that Uranus and Mercury are of the air element in some form or other. We can of course continue to discuss further.

Alright. That's enough for me. Thank you for the discussion. I don't like oversharing publicly and I have already done enough on this public. We can leave it here or you can find my email address in a link in my signature. Thank you for the conversation up until now. It was a nice discussion.

I can agree on ending things here for now. I am greatly appreciative of the discussion and you've brought a lot of interesting things to my attention that I never seemed to notice before, so thank you very much. I still have lots to learn as we all do on this path and as I learn more, opinions and things can be subject to change, etc.

Until next time comrade.

I know you told me stick to the basic but can you text me the basic to develop telekinesis I feel I don’t have enough time bro and what must be done I know foundation and hand chakras meditation what else please tell me I need help

Time and training are extremely important, especially in developing skills like Telekinesis. TK is definitely no joke, I always felt it would be one of the most defining abilities to have and work on. The foundation meditation is probably the best one to get started with as it creates that "relationship" between your Soul and everything around you, getting you a feel for the environment. (I remember someone here saying Telekinesis requires one to become one "with the room" they're in, even if it's only in order to move a dice on a table. If you're the room, the dice is just a teeny tiny something, easy and nearly weighless.)
The other obvious important thing are hand chakras, as you direct your energy through them and decide how much, the direction, how long and all things about what you intend to move. And IF you can't feel your hand chakras (strongly suggest a good dose of Rituals before you exercise here), start focusing on your shoulder chakras as they will help the energy flow to your hands and feeling them will become much easier. I used to train only the hand chakras and never could feel them, I felt SOMEthing, experienced some sort of tactile perception (astral touch, if you will), but not as much as when I started working on my shoulders some. The shoulders are, in theory (couldn't do it yet so I can't know for a fact yet), where the Soul's wings generate. When they do, your energy based abilities will multiply in power enormously in my opinion, and learning beautiful abilities like TK will be much easier. Try working on your shoulders chakras then, and I suggest as well all those chakras that are considered often "minor", but still have important tasks.
If you have a good enough ability to feel energy, I suggest chakra breathing (the one by Azazel, I think) in order to empower them in an easy enough way and get a feel for them. You can even link more meditations together if you like, but try not to complicate things unnecessarily.

Hope that helps, best of luck. Spam the Rituals before you do these meditations and exercises, it'll clear you of a tonne of shit in your Soul and make things many times easier. That much I know for a fact.

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Thank you so much bro for real man thanks and what is Rituals I don’t understand that tho on the cool and thanks so foundation meditation the hand chakras and the shoulder chakras and my major chakras right

I know you told me stick to the basic but can you text me the basic to develop telekinesis I feel I don’t have enough time bro and what must be done I know foundation and hand chakras meditation what else please tell me I need help

Time and training are extremely important, especially in developing skills like Telekinesis. TK is definitely no joke, I always felt it would be one of the most defining abilities to have and work on. The foundation meditation is probably the best one to get started with as it creates that "relationship" between your Soul and everything around you, getting you a feel for the environment. (I remember someone here saying Telekinesis requires one to become one "with the room" they're in, even if it's only in order to move a dice on a table. If you're the room, the dice is just a teeny tiny something, easy and nearly weighless.)
The other obvious important thing are hand chakras, as you direct your energy through them and decide how much, the direction, how long and all things about what you intend to move. And IF you can't feel your hand chakras (strongly suggest a good dose of Rituals before you exercise here), start focusing on your shoulder chakras as they will help the energy flow to your hands and feeling them will become much easier. I used to train only the hand chakras and never could feel them, I felt SOMEthing, experienced some sort of tactile perception (astral touch, if you will), but not as much as when I started working on my shoulders some. The shoulders are, in theory (couldn't do it yet so I can't know for a fact yet), where the Soul's wings generate. When they do, your energy based abilities will multiply in power enormously in my opinion, and learning beautiful abilities like TK will be much easier. Try working on your shoulders chakras then, and I suggest as well all those chakras that are considered often "minor", but still have important tasks.
If you have a good enough ability to feel energy, I suggest chakra breathing (the one by Azazel, I think) in order to empower them in an easy enough way and get a feel for them. You can even link more meditations together if you like, but try not to complicate things unnecessarily.

Hope that helps, best of luck. Spam the Rituals before you do these meditations and exercises, it'll clear you of a tonne of shit in your Soul and make things many times easier. That much I know for a fact.

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Thank you so much bro for real man thanks and what is Rituals I don’t understand that tho on the cool and thanks so foundation meditation the hand chakras and the shoulder chakras and my major chakras right

Time and training are extremely important, especially in developing skills like Telekinesis. TK is definitely no joke, I always felt it would be one of the most defining abilities to have and work on. The foundation meditation is probably the best one to get started with as it creates that "relationship" between your Soul and everything around you, getting you a feel for the environment. (I remember someone here saying Telekinesis requires one to become one "with the room" they're in, even if it's only in order to move a dice on a table. If you're the room, the dice is just a teeny tiny something, easy and nearly weighless.)
The other obvious important thing are hand chakras, as you direct your energy through them and decide how much, the direction, how long and all things about what you intend to move. And IF you can't feel your hand chakras (strongly suggest a good dose of Rituals before you exercise here), start focusing on your shoulder chakras as they will help the energy flow to your hands and feeling them will become much easier. I used to train only the hand chakras and never could feel them, I felt SOMEthing, experienced some sort of tactile perception (astral touch, if you will), but not as much as when I started working on my shoulders some. The shoulders are, in theory (couldn't do it yet so I can't know for a fact yet), where the Soul's wings generate. When they do, your energy based abilities will multiply in power enormously in my opinion, and learning beautiful abilities like TK will be much easier. Try working on your shoulders chakras then, and I suggest as well all those chakras that are considered often "minor", but still have important tasks.
If you have a good enough ability to feel energy, I suggest chakra breathing (the one by Azazel, I think) in order to empower them in an easy enough way and get a feel for them. You can even link more meditations together if you like, but try not to complicate things unnecessarily.

Hope that helps, best of luck. Spam the Rituals before you do these meditations and exercises, it'll clear you of a tonne of shit in your Soul and make things many times easier. That much I know for a fact.

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Thank you so much bro for real man thanks and what is Rituals I don’t understand that tho on the cool and thanks so foundation meditation the hand chakras and the shoulder chakras and my major chakras right

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What about the foundation meditation and energy meditation and the minor chakras what you mean you saying I need to work with all my chakras I been slacking lately I just got back in here again

What about the foundation meditation and energy meditation and the minor chakras what you mean you saying I need to work with all my chakras I been slacking lately I just got back in here again

I mean exactly what it says, the foundation meditation is the most important (as it is probably the first ever you should try in order to begin feeling and absorbing energy, every other meditation you'll do works on that basis) and chakras need to be awakened by doing the relative exercises... personally, I tried them all multiple times but I didn't have success with the methods in the ToZ, the "Opening the chakras" page with mudras, mantras etc, but it started to help when I vibrated Runes into them, like Dagaz, Thaur, Aum (the all famous Aum of course, as it is designed to work) and I started feeling some energy build up.

The thing I just recently discovered is that when you do the Final Ritual you clean yourself so much that, if you have blockages in the chakras or don't feel energy as you should by now, the Ritual will make it possible for you to feel. Just try not to be alarmed when you feel that much because, if you do the Ritual enough (two to four times a day, this will make you VERY aware of energy). For me this worked especially well with head chakras third eye, more astral eyes possibly, and temple chakras) and I'm working to PIERCE that freaking top of the head because by now it's clear to me that my Crown chakra is blocked, and I need it to become completely unobstructed in order to work with the Gods.

After the third Ritual yesterday, to give you an example of how much this is powerful, I directed some energy to a 'psi wheel' I have only occasionally been training with, and it moved towards and away from me, only slightly to the sides. So the energy this Ritual unlocks is incredible. I'm thinking I never had a chance at using my own energy before using the Ritual as it is "unblocking" me. Can't recommend it enough.

Hope that helps.

HAIL ZEUS!

What about the foundation meditation and energy meditation and the minor chakras what you mean you saying I need to work with all my chakras I been slacking lately I just got back in here again

I mean exactly what it says, the foundation meditation is the most important (as it is probably the first ever you should try in order to begin feeling and absorbing energy, every other meditation you'll do works on that basis) and chakras need to be awakened by doing the relative exercises... personally, I tried them all multiple times but I didn't have success with the methods in the ToZ, the "Opening the chakras" page with mudras, mantras etc, but it started to help when I vibrated Runes into them, like Dagaz, Thaur, Aum (the all famous Aum of course, as it is designed to work) and I started feeling some energy build up.

The thing I just recently discovered is that when you do the Final Ritual you clean yourself so much that, if you have blockages in the chakras or don't feel energy as you should by now, the Ritual will make it possible for you to feel. Just try not to be alarmed when you feel that much because, if you do the Ritual enough (two to four times a day, this will make you VERY aware of energy). For me this worked especially well with head chakras third eye, more astral eyes possibly, and temple chakras) and I'm working to PIERCE that freaking top of the head because by now it's clear to me that my Crown chakra is blocked, and I need it to become completely unobstructed in order to work with the Gods.

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So all of this will help with developing tk what about the psi ball

So all of this will help with developing tk what about the psi ball

The so called "psi ball" (that you can read in all forums and groups everywhere) is something that I never really understood until lately.

https://templeofzeus.org/Evoking_Elements.php

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So wait you saying that I should practice the air ball and not psi ball is it the same thing though just asking cause the psi ball is step 7 in opening the hand chakras and stuff that’s why I ask

So all of this will help with developing tk what about the psi ball

The so called "psi ball" (that you can read in all forums and groups everywhere) is something that I never really understood until lately.

https://templeofzeus.org/Evoking_Elements.php

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So wait you saying that I should practice the air ball and not psi ball is it the same thing though just asking cause the psi ball is step 7 in opening the hand chakras and stuff that’s why I ask

So wait you saying that I should practice the air ball and not psi ball is it the same thing though just asking cause the psi ball is step 7 in opening the hand chakras and stuff that’s why I ask

I'm saying, I tried the psi ball exercise (like in the hand chakras exercise) and it didn't do much for me at all. There WAS some subtle energy that I felt, and I could easily tell it had something to do with unlocking telekinesis skills, but the next times it didn't give me that good feel no matter how much I tried it.
Air (having to do with electricity, polarity and telekinesis a lot) just worked much better for me, BUT I've always preferred elemental energy to more 'bland' energy that I wasn't able to feel. Elements work best for me so I follow that route, but it's a personal choice.
If you feel strongly attracted to Elements, give it a try too (don't do more than it feels comfortable of course and train yourself with standing the Element of choice for a few days before evoking it between your hands), but don't think of it as something necessary. "I" find it something that works, but I don't know how much you feel or don't feel energy. IF YOU DO feel your energy easily even just doing the hand chakras exercise, then I suggest you keep working on it and don't mess around with Elements (unless it's something you want to work with) as your energy alone will be already good enough to get started and learn TK.

This, at least, is my own understanding (other than the concept of Air being a very good help for Telekinesis), so do what feels more natural to you. Hope that helps.

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So wait you saying that I should practice the air ball and not psi ball is it the same thing though just asking cause the psi ball is step 7 in opening the hand chakras and stuff that’s why I ask

I'm saying, I tried the psi ball exercise (like in the hand chakras exercise) and it didn't do much for me at all. There WAS some subtle energy that I felt, and I could easily tell it had something to do with unlocking telekinesis skills, but the next times it didn't give me that good feel no matter how much I tried it.
Air (having to do with electricity, polarity and telekinesis a lot) just worked much better for me, BUT I've always preferred elemental energy to more 'bland' energy that I wasn't able to feel. Elements work best for me so I follow that route, but it's a personal choice.
If you feel strongly attracted to Elements, give it a try too (don't do more than it feels comfortable of course and train yourself with standing the Element of choice for a few days before evoking it between your hands), but don't think of it as something necessary. "I" find it something that works, but I don't know how much you feel or don't feel energy. IF YOU DO feel your energy easily even just doing the hand chakras exercise, then I suggest you keep working on it and don't mess around with Elements (unless it's something you want to work with) as your energy alone will be already good enough to get started and learn TK.

This, at least, is my own understanding (other than the concept of Air being a very good help for Telekinesis), so do what feels more natural to you. Hope that helps.

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I think I should practice both the psi ball and air ball then maybe it can help me develop but how long you been doing it for

I think I should practice both the psi ball and air ball then maybe it can help me develop but how long you been doing it for

lol here comes the 'how long' question.

For the slightest movement of a psi wheel it took maybe a couple of days of sound Rituals and Air meditation. But DON'T stress it out if it takes more... one very important rule about things like TK is this: don't expect anything. No one is going to "take pity on you since its been so long you're trying". YOU help yourself and you alone. The Gods will be pleased when they see you're really focused and will eventually give you hints or show you in dreams or visions how good you could become with constant training.

If you 'expect' then you might as well just sit in front of an object and wait for something else to move it and then wonder if it was you or the wind. Hint: if you feel it may have been the wind, disregard the event and try again, harder.

I personally think Telekinesis is THE hardest thing to do because it involves so much together. Focus, feeling energy, self belief, constant training and the strongest motivation.
No slacker on YouTube ever made it, even I could post a ~Telekinesis video~ without using TK at all, but that would mean primarily "lying to myself" and subtly accept I can't learn it no matter the amount of attempts.

Do this, mate: try sitting quietly, close your eyes, and imagine yourself in a parking lot aiming your hand at a car and lifting it in the air. Hold the car in the air in your mind and see if you feel normal, disbelieving, knowing its something possible or thinking you 'just can't'.
If you don't believe you can, do some affirmation work programming yourself to know Telekinesis is very real and that you're going to learn it.

Hang in there, just do it everyday, forge your willpower and you'll start to notice changes in yourself.

HAIL ZEUS!

I think I should practice both the psi ball and air ball then maybe it can help me develop but how long you been doing it for

lol here comes the 'how long' question.

For the slightest movement of a psi wheel it took maybe a couple of days of sound Rituals and Air meditation. But DON'T stress it out if it takes more... one very important rule about things like TK is this: don't expect anything. No one is going to "take pity on you since its been so long you're trying". YOU help yourself and you alone. The Gods will be pleased when they see you're really focused and will eventually give you hints or show you in dreams or visions how good you could become with constant training.

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Wow bro the gods been showing things in my dream a lot I been dreaming about tk like I could levitate cars I can move objects I can fly and make shield and pull objects and stuff etc but every time I have a dream about it it’s like I am ether helping or fighting and etc you ever seen the tomorrow people