Sushuma, Ida e pingala

[Filioautembiaboli]

I am working on sushuma with meditation to produce heat and will soon begin a new 40 day cycle with agni vibration for 111 or 216 I have yet to decide.

Then I plan to proceed with Ida and pingala.

I was wondering besides the meditation that is in the library is there anything else I can do to activate the two snakes?

The double snake meditation doesn't really seem ideal, I don't know.


I await your valuable advice

Sorry for may English, I use deepl

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Be very careful. Do not try to do too much heat. You might not feel it when you are doing it, and at a later time all of it comes to you very strongly. And it would be too much. If you do not feel it when you are doing it, do not try to do more. Because when it comes to you, it would be too much and it would be dangerous.

Do not try to invoke element of Fire. And do not do too much of the Agni mantra because it is connected to fire. Fire energy is only safe in very small amounts, and it is not good for everybody.

The numbers 111 and 216 are too large for you to use. You should use a smaller number. If you do too much, it will not be helpful for yourself. Doing too much can harm you, make you very uncomfortable, make you sick. It is better to do a smaller amount in a safe way.

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

Be very careful. Do not try to do too much heat. You might not feel it when you are doing it, and at a later time all of it comes to you very strongly. And it would be too much. If you do not feel it when you are doing it, do not try to do more. Because when it comes to you, it would be too much and it would be dangerous.

Do not try to invoke element of Fire. And do not do too much of the Agni mantra because it is connected to fire. Fire energy is only safe in very small amounts, and it is not good for everybody.

The numbers 111 and 216 are too large for you to use. You should use a smaller number. If you do too much, it will not be helpful for yourself. Doing too much can harm you, make you very uncomfortable, make you sick. It is better to do a smaller amount in a safe way.

OK thanks,but for Isa and pingala?

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

For Ida and Pingala, you need to work on 3rd chakra. These paths both go through your 3rd chakra. You can use these meditations, these will help you.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Opening_Solar_Chakra.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/RAUM_Meditation.html

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/King_Queen.html 

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

Thank you, I already know and practice these meditations that you linked, I was looking for something more specific just to "activate" the two snakes and perceive them better.

 

[Stormblood]

All three main nadih intersect at every main chakra. That's why the 7 chakra (and pineal gland) are so important. The solar chakra is the most powerful because all 144 thousand nadih intersect there. These are just channels. There is no use to empower them, as far as I know. Better just keep them clean, so your energy can flow properly. The twin serpent meditation is the only thing you need for them. It cleans them and balances them (and the chakra), which is all you need to move to the next stage which is the merging of them. But merging the 3 main nadih happens automatically at a certain point. Another important thing for the balancing and purification of these meridians is the alternate nostril breathing.

I also agree with Ol Argedco Luciftias in not using that much fire. You do not need the AGNI mantra in the susumna at all anyway. That meditation has other uses than vibrating mantra in it. It is supposed to be quick way to warm you up, among things. 111/216 rep of a mantra are far from quick, even if done improperly (=at speed). You can also warm yourself up with the breath of fire, which is also useful to purify all of your nadih.

Ida and pingala do not need to be activated. They are already active, but not both at the same time in most subhumans. Generally, most will have 1 active and 1 dormant. If you you put your index finger below your nose, you can understand which one is more active by the amount of breath that comes out of each nostril. The nostril that exhale the most air is the most active.

On the other hand, the susumna needs to be activated. This only happens when the ida and pingala are fully balanced. Some text associate an allegory to this stage, saying that ida and pingala 'die'. This is obviously not a real death. What happens is that both stop working when they become completely balanced, and the susumna starts working in their stead.

It appears to me like you're trying to complicate your life needlessly.

You can find other purification methods in the money spells PDF. Scroll through it until you find exercises that deal with your nostrils.

I hope this was helpful.

 

[Stormblood]

All three main nadih intersect at every main chakra. That's why the 7 chakra (and pineal gland) are so important. The solar chakra is the most powerful because all 144 thousand nadih intersect there. These are just channels. There is no use to empower them, as far as I know. Better just keep them clean, so your energy can flow properly. The twin serpent meditation is the only thing you need for them. It cleans them and balances them (and the chakra), which is all you need to move to the next stage which is the merging of them. But merging the 3 main nadih happens automatically at a certain point. Another important thing for the balancing and purification of these meridians is the alternate nostril breathing.

I also agree with Ol Argedco Luciftias in not using that much fire. You do not need the AGNI mantra in the susumna at all anyway. That meditation has other uses than vibrating mantra in it. It is supposed to be quick way to warm you up, among things. 111/216 rep of a mantra are far from quick, even if done improperly (=at speed). You can also warm yourself up with the breath of fire, which is also useful to purify all of your nadih.

Ida and pingala do not need to be activated. They are already active, but not both at the same time in most subhumans. Generally, most will have 1 active and 1 dormant. If you you put your index finger below your nose, you can understand which one is more active by the amount of breath that comes out of each nostril. The nostril that exhale the most air is the most active.

On the other hand, the susumna needs to be activated. This only happens when the ida and pingala are fully balanced. Some text associate an allegory to this stage, saying that ida and pingala 'die'. This is obviously not a real death. What happens is that both stop working when they become completely balanced, and the susumna starts working in their stead.

It appears to me like you're trying to complicate your life needlessly.

You can find other purification methods in the money spells PDF. Scroll through it until you find exercises that deal with your nostrils.

I hope this was helpful.

Hatha practice also deals with the nadih.

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

All three main nadih intersect at every main chakra. That's why the 7 chakra (and pineal gland) are so important. The solar chakra is the most powerful because all 144 thousand nadih intersect there. These are just channels. There is no use to empower them, as far as I know. Better just keep them clean, so your energy can flow properly. The twin serpent meditation is the only thing you need for them. It cleans them and balances them (and the chakra), which is all you need to move to the next stage which is the merging of them. But merging the 3 main nadih happens automatically at a certain point. Another important thing for the balancing and purification of these meridians is the alternate nostril breathing.

I also agree with Ol Argedco Luciftias in not using that much fire. You do not need the AGNI mantra in the susumna at all anyway. That meditation has other uses than vibrating mantra in it. It is supposed to be quick way to warm you up, among things. 111/216 rep of a mantra are far from quick, even if done improperly (=at speed). You can also warm yourself up with the breath of fire, which is also useful to purify all of your nadih.

Ida and pingala do not need to be activated. They are already active, but not both at the same time in most subhumans. Generally, most will have 1 active and 1 dormant. If you you put your index finger below your nose, you can understand which one is more active by the amount of breath that comes out of each nostril. The nostril that exhale the most air is the most active.

On the other hand, the susumna needs to be activated. This only happens when the ida and pingala are fully balanced. Some text associate an allegory to this stage, saying that ida and pingala 'die'. This is obviously not a real death. What happens is that both stop working when they become completely balanced, and the susumna starts working in their stead.

It appears to me like you're trying to complicate your life needlessly.

You can find other purification methods in the money spells PDF. Scroll through it until you find exercises that deal with your nostrils.

I hope this was helpful.

Thank you very much for your complete and comprehensive response. You have taken away a lot of doubts and clarified the concept for me.

 

[NinRick]

Thank you, I already know and practice these meditations that you linked, I was looking for something more specific just to "activate" the two snakes and perceive them better.

You know, there is a reason certain things are not contained on the Joy Of Satan and why Ol argedco luciftias does not just give you meditation to open them, somethings have to be provided directly from the Demons. Sacred knowledge exists, and is provided to those who are worthy of it. The loyaler you are, the more Knowledge and Wisdom you receive, if you are open to listen to the Demons. By open, I am not even referring to *hearing* them.

Grow close to your GD, praise and honour your GD, and be sure, knowledge by experience will be revealed to you.
For this you don’t even need to be able to hear or see them, this is just an easy excuse to avoid something you subconsciously not comfortable with as this is something very new.
Take a courageous step towards the Gods, and know, you will be received and greeted.

 

[NinRick]

Be very careful. Do not try to do too much heat. You might not feel it when you are doing it, and at a later time all of it comes to you very strongly. And it would be too much. If you do not feel it when you are doing it, do not try to do more. Because when it comes to you, it would be too much and it would be dangerous.

Do not try to invoke element of Fire. And do not do too much of the Agni mantra because it is connected to fire. Fire energy is only safe in very small amounts, and it is not good for everybody.

The numbers 111 and 216 are too large for you to use. You should use a smaller number. If you do too much, it will not be helpful for yourself. Doing too much can harm you, make you very uncomfortable, make you sick. It is better to do a smaller amount in a safe way.

All the time since I have joined the Joy Of Satan, you‘ve been providing quality assistance and help for those who need it, me included.
Thank you for that!

 

[Stormblood]

All I can is the JoS already has everything you need to reach apotheosis, if read carefully. More will be understood as you grow in power and wisdom, if you re-read what's already there. Knowledge, like in myths, can be encoded on different levels which become progressively apparent with advancement.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

All the time since I have joined the Joy Of Satan, you‘ve been providing quality assistance and help for those who need it, me included.
Thank you for that!

This is the structure of my soul. I am not able to do anything different.