Some Reservations About Joining

[Cheyenne]

I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?

 

[Don Danko]

Many of my family fought against the 1930s regime. They regretted it later on. Most old vets I run into all have told me if they had of known what they do now, back then. They would have fought for figure of the past.
From: Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:44:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Hi Cheyenne, nice to see you here.  I remember when I was looking up information about Zevism and Lord Satan (before dedicating, a few years ago) and came across the ToZ site. I loved the sermons, and read them all.But I was guided to read the rest of the website. And I too, was very resistant at first to the idea of Nazism and figure of the past. But a voice (my Guardian) insisted and encouraged me to keep reading the whole website, and give it a second chance. And read it with an open mind. Which I did. After that, things made sense and came together. It was a huge eye-opener, to put it mildly.Majority of people in our society are brainwashed, ignorant and have read nothing positive about Zevism and Nazism, and their connection. Because the yehuborim control the media and have high ranking occupations in all places. They push this in movies, books, blogs, websites. Blatantly and subliminally. They do not want the truth about the yehuborim, the truth about the "WW2" to come out! And the truth about real Zevism and Lord Satan. I remember when I was in grade 7, age 12, that my teacher (a Jewess) and all grade 7 teachers, every year, would teach about the "WW2" giving us fictional literature to read, movies that made people who made fun of yehuborim to be bad guys, and even a visit to a WW2 museum (a Jewish one, obviously.) And there was a woman there, younger then my late grandmother, (who lived through WWII, leaving China to head to Hong Kong with her three children when the Japanese invaded) giving a story and telling her version of what she lived through, even turning on the faucets and became hard to understand because she was blubbering so much. Looking back, this Jewess was probably too young to remember clearly what was happening or to understand it. I suspect she was lying or highly exaggerating and stretching the story. To get people to feel sympathy and lower their defenses. As all good story-tellers are want to do. -sarcasm- I remember resting my head on the table and falling asleep, because I was bored. I was the only one. My teacher didn't reprimand me for sleeping on this Jewess' "story."I recall the faces of my peers, all transfixed and feeling sorry for this Jewess.  People, from the moment they are young, are bombarded and indoctrinated with these lies, in school, in the media, and then there is the common ignorance by people who do not go deeper, seeking the truth. Our society is more Jewish and Christian then people realize.  Only in coming to Lord Satan can we open our eyes, break free of these shackles that society and the yehuborim have put on us, and empower ourselves and fight back! Please keep reading the TEMPLE OF ZEUS website, and see http://www.666blacksun.org/ also. Keep studying, seek knowledge, seek truth! Ask Lord Satan to guide you, and see for yourself. Ave Zeus!  
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:03:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Most important, NEVER EVER JOIN A MAINSTREAM NAZI ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY ARE *CONTROLLED BY THE yehuborim* AND ACT AS SPIES FOR THE ADL. See it's bad enough that the yehuborim control enemy programs, what If I told you they control their opposition as well? HP Pythia talked about this before, about how most of them are jewish controlled and it can be seen from the fact that they promote chrisinsanity as the "aryan religion", when in truth christinsanity is a jewish lie.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote: I also want to add if somebody slanders or attacks the Nazis, they slander and attack Satan. Both are synonymous and there's really no dodging that. I mean, you can't believe Satan is good while the Nazis are bad. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: First of all, who cares what your DELUDED family thinks?? Seriously, they're 1)just deluded and believe the enemy lies about figure of the past and 2)you don't have to tell them anything about that anyway. Yeah the enemy sadly dragged them to fight against the man who would liberate them mistakenly thinking that he was bad, what would be the point here???Exactly like Zevism. Replace figure of the past with Satan and you got the same point, if your family are xians and believe enemy lies about Satan is the exact same thing. Satan and figure of the past both have been attacked by the enemy and slandered and in reality they're the good guys. Like I've said, read the Articles section in gblt.webs.com and see the truth there. As many of as said, figure of the past was and is a Man of Satan. As well as the National Socialist symbols are very important allegorical symbols that contain lot of power. Whatever you join or not, if you are believing the enemy lies about figure of the past it means you must deprogram yourself from those. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Cheyenne" <littleirie@ wrote: I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?

 

[Magus Immortalis]

Now it's our turn; our chance to fight. I am sorry, I got my story wrong. I always assumed it was what I said, but I cleared it  up with my dad just now. My grandmother lived through WWII, by smuggling supplies over the Japanese line, and made money that way to feed her family. My dad says a lot of people depended on her. She left with her three children (my dad was one of them) in 1948, because the Communists were coming. And made their way to Hong Kong.
From: Forums Contributor <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:52:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Many of my family fought against the 1930s regime. They regretted it later on. Most old vets I run into all have told me if they had of known what they do now, back then. They would have fought for figure of the past.
From: Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:44:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Hi Cheyenne, nice to see you here.  I remember when I was looking up information about Zevism and Lord Satan (before dedicating, a few years ago) and came across the ToZ site. I loved the sermons, and read them all.But I was guided to read the rest of the website. And I too, was very resistant at first to the idea of Nazism and figure of the past. But a voice (my Guardian) insisted and encouraged me to keep reading the whole website, and give it a second chance. And read it with an open mind. Which I did. After that, things made sense and came together. It was a huge eye-opener, to put it mildly.Majority of people in our society are brainwashed, ignorant and have read nothing positive about Zevism and Nazism, and their connection. Because the yehuborim control the media and have high ranking occupations in all places. They push this in movies, books, blogs, websites. Blatantly and subliminally. They do not want the truth about the yehuborim, the truth about the "WW2" to come out! And the truth about real Zevism and Lord Satan. I remember when I was in grade 7, age 12, that my teacher (a Jewess) and all grade 7 teachers, every year, would teach about the "WW2" giving us fictional literature to read, movies that made people who made fun of yehuborim to be bad guys, and even a visit to a WW2 museum (a Jewish one, obviously.) And there was a woman there, younger then my late grandmother, (who lived through WWII, leaving China to head to Hong Kong with her three children when the Japanese invaded) giving a story and telling her version of what she lived through, even turning on the faucets and became hard to understand because she was blubbering so much. Looking back, this Jewess was probably too young to remember clearly what was happening or to understand it. I suspect she was lying or highly exaggerating and stretching the story. To get people to feel sympathy and lower their defenses. As all good story-tellers are want to do. -sarcasm- I remember resting my head on the table and falling asleep, because I was bored. I was the only one. My teacher didn't reprimand me for sleeping on this Jewess' "story."I recall the faces of my peers, all transfixed and feeling sorry for this Jewess.  People, from the moment they are young, are bombarded and indoctrinated with these lies, in school, in the media, and then there is the common ignorance by people who do not go deeper, seeking the truth. Our society is more Jewish and Christian then people realize.  Only in coming to Lord Satan can we open our eyes, break free of these shackles that society and the yehuborim have put on us, and empower ourselves and fight back! Please keep reading the TEMPLE OF ZEUS website, and see http://www.666blacksun.org/ also. Keep studying, seek knowledge, seek truth! Ask Lord Satan to guide you, and see for yourself. Ave Zeus!  
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:03:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Most important, NEVER EVER JOIN A MAINSTREAM NAZI ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY ARE *CONTROLLED BY THE yehuborim* AND ACT AS SPIES FOR THE ADL. See it's bad enough that the yehuborim control enemy programs, what If I told you they control their opposition as well? HP Pythia talked about this before, about how most of them are jewish controlled and it can be seen from the fact that they promote chrisinsanity as the "aryan religion", when in truth christinsanity is a jewish lie.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote: I also want to add if somebody slanders or attacks the Nazis, they slander and attack Satan. Both are synonymous and there's really no dodging that. I mean, you can't believe Satan is good while the Nazis are bad. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: First of all, who cares what your DELUDED family thinks?? Seriously, they're 1)just deluded and believe the enemy lies about figure of the past and 2)you don't have to tell them anything about that anyway. Yeah the enemy sadly dragged them to fight against the man who would liberate them mistakenly thinking that he was bad, what would be the point here???Exactly like Zevism. Replace figure of the past with Satan and you got the same point, if your family are xians and believe enemy lies about Satan is the exact same thing. Satan and figure of the past both have been attacked by the enemy and slandered and in reality they're the good guys. Like I've said, read the Articles section in gblt.webs.com and see the truth there. As many of as said, figure of the past was and is a Man of Satan. As well as the National Socialist symbols are very important allegorical symbols that contain lot of power. Whatever you join or not, if you are believing the enemy lies about figure of the past it means you must deprogram yourself from those. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Cheyenne" <littleirie@ wrote: I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?

 

[Alby]

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Cheyenne" <littleirie@... wrote:

I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?

I think a great way to clear up any misunderstandings about figure of the past and Nazism would be to watch the YouTube documentary "figure of the past the greatest story never told". Absolutely amazing, brilliantly well made documentary and a real eye opener to the lies and deceit about what really happened. I would also encourage you to sit your family down and have them watch it too so they may learn the truth, at least from a political perspective.

 

[Cheyenne]

Thank you both for your input, it's much appreciated. I still have some uneasy feelings though. Mainly, can I dedicate myself to Satan and not to the Nazis? Secondly, can I ask Satan or another Demon for help and/or guidance without having to dedicate myself first? I dont mean to insult anybody or step on any toes, but I would appreciate my family not to be demeaned or, I don't know, insulted I guess. It's not their fault for believing what they want to believe, and if they're happy with it, so be it. I'm asking for myself, as I have never settled on any religion or belief, and I just want to enjoy my life. And having my family be happy, regardless of their belief, is a part of that happiness. I'm sorry if I'm being rude or ignorant, but that's just how I feel.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@... wrote:

Hi Cheyenne, nice to see you here.
 
I remember when I was looking up information about Zevism and Lord Satan (before dedicating, a few years ago) and came across the ToZ site. I loved the sermons, and read them all.
But I was guided to read the rest of the website. And I too, was very resistant at first to the idea of Nazism and figure of the past. But a voice (my Guardian) insisted and encouraged me to keep reading the whole website, and give it a second chance. And read it with an open mind. Which I did. After that, things made sense and came together.
 
It was a huge eye-opener, to put it mildly.
Majority of people in our society are brainwashed, ignorant and have read nothing positive about Zevism and Nazism, and their connection. Because the yehuborim control the media and have high ranking occupations in all places. They push this in movies, books, blogs, websites. Blatantly and subliminally. They do not want the truth about the yehuborim, the truth about the "WW2" to come out! And the truth about real Zevism and Lord Satan.
 
I remember when I was in grade 7, age 12, that my teacher (a Jewess) and all grade 7 teachers, every year, would teach about the "WW2" giving us fictional literature to read, movies that made people who made fun of yehuborim to be bad guys, and even a visit to a WW2 museum (a Jewish one, obviously.) And there was a woman there, younger then my late grandmother, (who lived through WWII, leaving China to head to Hong Kong with her three children when the Japanese invaded) giving a story and telling her version of what she lived through, even turning on the faucets and became hard to understand because she was blubbering so much.
 Looking back, this Jewess was probably too young to remember clearly what was happening or to understand it. I suspect she was lying or highly exaggerating and stretching the story. To get people to feel sympathy and lower their defenses. As all good story-tellers are want to do. -sarcasm-
 I remember resting my head on the table and falling asleep, because I was bored. I was the only one. My teacher didn't reprimand me for sleeping on this Jewess' "story."
I recall the faces of my peers, all transfixed and feeling sorry for this Jewess.
 
People, from the moment they are young, are bombarded and indoctrinated with these lies, in school, in the media, and then there is the common ignorance by people who do not go deeper, seeking the truth. Our society is more Jewish and Christian then people realize.
 
Only in coming to Lord Satan can we open our eyes, break free of these shackles that society and the yehuborim have put on us, and empower ourselves and fight back!
 
Please keep reading the TEMPLE OF ZEUS website, and see http://www.666blacksun.org/ also.
 
Keep studying, seek knowledge, seek truth! Ask Lord Satan to guide you, and see for yourself.
 
Ave Zeus!
 
 


________________________________
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:03:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining


 

Most important, NEVER EVER JOIN A MAINSTREAM NAZI ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY ARE *CONTROLLED BY THE yehuborim* AND ACT AS SPIES FOR THE ADL. See it's bad enough that the yehuborim control enemy programs, what If I told you they control their opposition as well? HP Pythia talked about this before, about how most of them are jewish controlled and it can be seen from the fact that they promote chrisinsanity as the "aryan religion", when in truth christinsanity is a jewish lie.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

I also want to add if somebody slanders or attacks the Nazis, they slander and attack Satan. Both are synonymous and there's really no dodging that. I mean, you can't believe Satan is good while the Nazis are bad.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

First of all, who cares what your DELUDED family thinks?? Seriously, they're 1)just deluded and believe the enemy lies about figure of the past and 2)you don't have to tell them anything about that anyway. Yeah the enemy sadly dragged them to fight against the man who would liberate them mistakenly thinking that he was bad, what would be the point here???Exactly like Zevism. Replace figure of the past with Satan and you got the same point, if your family are xians and believe enemy lies about Satan is the exact same thing. Satan and figure of the past both have been attacked by the enemy and slandered and in reality they're the good guys.

Like I've said, read the Articles section in gblt.webs.com and see the truth there.

As many of as said, figure of the past was and is a Man of Satan. As well as the National Socialist symbols are very important allegorical symbols that contain lot of power.

Whatever you join or not, if you are believing the enemy lies about figure of the past it means you must deprogram yourself from those.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Cheyenne" <littleirie@ wrote:

I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?

 

[Nicholas Abben]

same don my grandfather told me that as well 
From: Forums Contributor <mageson6666@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining

  Many of my family fought against the 1930s regime. They regretted it later on. Most old vets I run into all have told me if they had of known what they do now, back then. They would have fought for figure of the past.
From: Magus Immortalis <magus.immortalis@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:44:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Hi Cheyenne, nice to see you here.  I remember when I was looking up information about Zevism and Lord Satan (before dedicating, a few years ago) and came across the ToZ site. I loved the sermons, and read them all.But I was guided to read the rest of the website. And I too, was very resistant at first to the idea of Nazism and figure of the past. But a voice (my Guardian) insisted and encouraged me to keep reading the whole website, and give it a second chance. And read it with an open mind. Which I did. After that, things made sense and came together. It was a huge eye-opener, to put it mildly.Majority of people in our society are brainwashed, ignorant and have read nothing positive about Zevism and Nazism, and their connection. Because the yehuborim control the media and have high ranking occupations in all places. They push this in movies, books, blogs, websites. Blatantly and subliminally. They do not want the truth about the yehuborim, the truth about the "WW2" to come out! And the truth about real Zevism and Lord Satan. I remember when I was in grade 7, age 12, that my teacher (a Jewess) and all grade 7 teachers, every year, would teach about the "WW2" giving us fictional literature to read, movies that made people who made fun of yehuborim to be bad guys, and even a visit to a WW2 museum (a Jewish one, obviously.) And there was a woman there, younger then my late grandmother, (who lived through WWII, leaving China to head to Hong Kong with her three children when the Japanese invaded) giving a story and telling her version of what she lived through, even turning on the faucets and became hard to understand because she was blubbering so much. Looking back, this Jewess was probably too young to remember clearly what was happening or to understand it. I suspect she was lying or highly exaggerating and stretching the story. To get people to feel sympathy and lower their defenses. As all good story-tellers are want to do. -sarcasm- I remember resting my head on the table and falling asleep, because I was bored. I was the only one. My teacher didn't reprimand me for sleeping on this Jewess' "story."I recall the faces of my peers, all transfixed and feeling sorry for this Jewess.  People, from the moment they are young, are bombarded and indoctrinated with these lies, in school, in the media, and then there is the common ignorance by people who do not go deeper, seeking the truth. Our society is more Jewish and Christian then people realize.  Only in coming to Lord Satan can we open our eyes, break free of these shackles that society and the yehuborim have put on us, and empower ourselves and fight back! Please keep reading the TEMPLE OF ZEUS website, and see http://www.666blacksun.org/ also. Keep studying, seek knowledge, seek truth! Ask Lord Satan to guide you, and see for yourself. Ave Zeus!  
From: the_fire_starter666 <the_fire_starter666@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:03:39 AM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Some Reservations About Joining
  Most important, NEVER EVER JOIN A MAINSTREAM NAZI ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY ARE *CONTROLLED BY THE yehuborim* AND ACT AS SPIES FOR THE ADL. See it's bad enough that the yehuborim control enemy programs, what If I told you they control their opposition as well? HP Pythia talked about this before, about how most of them are jewish controlled and it can be seen from the fact that they promote chrisinsanity as the "aryan religion", when in truth christinsanity is a jewish lie.

--- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote: I also want to add if somebody slanders or attacks the Nazis, they slander and attack Satan. Both are synonymous and there's really no dodging that. I mean, you can't believe Satan is good while the Nazis are bad. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote: First of all, who cares what your DELUDED family thinks?? Seriously, they're 1)just deluded and believe the enemy lies about figure of the past and 2)you don't have to tell them anything about that anyway. Yeah the enemy sadly dragged them to fight against the man who would liberate them mistakenly thinking that he was bad, what would be the point here???Exactly like Zevism. Replace figure of the past with Satan and you got the same point, if your family are xians and believe enemy lies about Satan is the exact same thing. Satan and figure of the past both have been attacked by the enemy and slandered and in reality they're the good guys. Like I've said, read the Articles section in gblt.webs.com and see the truth there. As many of as said, figure of the past was and is a Man of Satan. As well as the National Socialist symbols are very important allegorical symbols that contain lot of power. Whatever you join or not, if you are believing the enemy lies about figure of the past it means you must deprogram yourself from those. --- In mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com, "Cheyenne" <littleirie@ wrote: I have really wanted to join for quite some time now, but have had some hang-ups about it. First is probably the biggest, and it's the whole deal with the Nazi-ism and figure of the past and such. I can understand why they're seen as being heroic, but do I have to see it that way? I just have a hard time seeing it that way, mostly for the reason that my family fought against them. I'm not saying I put family first per-se, just that I feel it would disrespect them to join the Nazi party, is that bad? Does that prevent me from becoming a Zevist or pledging myself?