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Some lingering questions.

Friday13thx

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Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?
 
Sarjam05 said:
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?

It could be your familiar sent by the Gods. Other than that, no idea, because I don't know what the turtle symbolizes.

Sarjam05 said:
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?

The sacred animals are sacred basically because of their symbolic meaning. Of course you can eat them. This is not a Hindu-like thing where you are supposed to worship cows and not kill them.

Sarjam05 said:
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

If a human being is a dedicated Satanist he/she goes to Duat with Satan and the Gods to be reincarnated after a while. It doesn't matter if 2 people are rivals. Those two gangs you mention, however, are not Dedicated Satanists. They are the same as fake Satanist who believes the enemy lies about Satan but worships the christian version of Satan and commits atrocities in Satan's name. That person is not a dedicated Satanist and not protected by Satan and the Gods, no matter what he/she claims. A person who has misconceptions about Satan and the Gods has nothing to do with them, but probably sends energy to an enemy thoughtform/grey that pretends to be Satan.

As I said to you before, you seem to be stuck up in the christian (actually Buddhist) version of the afterlife and you are trying to apply this to Hell/Duat as found in Spiritual Satanism. Hell/Duat has nothing to do with your conduct in your life. It's not a punishment/reward for your deeds. Neither, for that matter, is the christian "hell" (if you read what christians say, according to them all non-christians will go to hell, no matter how good they are, while a serial killer and rapist like Jeffrey Dahmer who repents at the last moment before he dies and becomes baptized will go to "heaven"). It's a temporary place in the astral where you wait between incarnations. Nothing more than that. Punishment/reward cannot be in the afterlife because not having a physical body is very boring. You don't enjoy "bliss" while being in such a boring state.
 
Sarjam05 said:
Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

To clarify my previous reply further: Hell/Duat exists for the sole purpose of saving and protecting Satan's loyal people from the enemy beings who may prey for them and try to harvest their souls as an energy source. That's its only purpose. And it is for all Dedicated Satanists, no matter how they behave in life. It's not a place to punish or reward people, since by itself existence in the astral without a body is boring, and many souls in Duat/Hell are begging to get reincarnated, as HP Maxine said. It's not a fun place where you are supposed to enjoy the rewards of your being a Satanist. It just happens that, unfortunately, enemy beings want to harvest human souls as energy sources and Satan wants to protect as many people as he can from that. So not only dedicated Satanists, but their friends and families can go to Duat too.

The ultimate of being a Satanist is actually overcoming death and having to reincarnate by completing the Magnum Opus. Satanism isn't about enjoying a good afterlife, but about overcoming death completely so that we won't even need to live an afterlife. This is a long shot for most people as we're far from becoming immortal in this life, but empowering your soul in this life carries over into your next life and you will be reborn more spiritually open and empowered than if you did nothing, so it will be easier for you to achieve the Magnum Opus.

So all the rewards of Spiritual Satanism happen in a physical incarnation/life, either in this one or in one of your next lives. We don't look to after our deaths to be rewarded/punished. Even people who make many enemies in their lives by treating people badly, the consequences of these actions of theirs will probably happen in their next physical incarnation (as those who were harmed by them will be likely to incarnate together with them to seek revenge) and not after death.
 
Sarjam05 said:
Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

1. open door, living in a turtle region.
2. Every animal can be eaten, as long you honor/appreciate it. House/endangered or sacred animals should be only considered in dire need/life and death situations, Gods value your live more, you can inspire change in the world from which the animals benefit.
3. I guess, if they are both really dedicated, did not commit crimes which the gods will punish (in hell), both go to hell and have to live with one another, until they understand thear error, so in thear next life they won´t do the same.
 
Fuchs said:
Sarjam05 said:
Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

1. open door, living in a turtle region.
2. Every animal can be eaten, as long you honor/appreciate it. House/endangered or sacred animals should be only considered in dire need/life and death situations, Gods value your live more, you can inspire change in the world from which the animals benefit.
3. I guess, if they are both really dedicated, did not commit crimes which the gods will punish (in hell), both go to hell and have to live with one another, until they understand thear error, so in thear next life they won´t do the same.

In 3 you say punish in hell but @rationalsatanist says there’s no reward or punishment in hell.
 
Sarjam05 said:
Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

1. I don't know if the turtle has any specific satanic meaning, but if it were sign or a message the Gods/Demons would probably make it obvious for you to understand I think.
2. Yes, but every single animal should be killed only for this purpose and in a merciful way. No pain. The ones that hunt just for fun are an abomination.
3. I am not sure about this to be honest
 
Sarjam05 said:
Fuchs said:
Sarjam05 said:
Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

1. open door, living in a turtle region.
2. Every animal can be eaten, as long you honor/appreciate it. House/endangered or sacred animals should be only considered in dire need/life and death situations, Gods value your live more, you can inspire change in the world from which the animals benefit.
3. I guess, if they are both really dedicated, did not commit crimes which the gods will punish (in hell), both go to hell and have to live with one another, until they understand thear error, so in thear next life they won´t do the same.

In 3 you say punish in hell but @rationalsatanist says there’s no reward or punishment in hell.

All dead dedicated SS go/are guided to Hell, what happens after, I can´t say for sure, here are some offical statements:


"In closing mistakes are normal, expect them, and work to correct them. The Gods are here to help us and guide us, not to punish us as a priority. The Gods punish in cases where crimes and mistakes are damning them in some way, as in committing really bad things against them.

This is no different than a parent, the child has to cross extreme boundaries for the parent to consider giving them some sort of ultimate punishment. The enemy religions are the reverse, every little thing people do wrong, they are smitten and infested with guilt and terror like they did destroy the whole earth.

Then the enemy has this other extreme: "All your mistakes are accepted". This is the second recipe to damnation. If one accepts all their mistakes, as if they do none or that it doesn't matter, destruction is guaranteed.

These two above states, ruin a human being completely." HPHC

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=62875


Things like child abuse, human sacrifices,... , race mixing (severe cases, never do) are punished (can be in the same lifetime) ->



Aquarius wrote:
DarkShadow wrote:

If you reincarnate into black race(due to some unknown reasons :roll: ) but you were white, it doesn't means anything :lol:
That makes no sense, you can’t reincarnate in a black body if you’re white, just wont happen. However the Gods can do that to people, I remember HPS Maxine talking about an acquaintance of her who liked race mixing then she died and Maxine asked a God to reincarnate her and the God reincarnated her (well deserved) into a black body.


"This is a form of punishment and not a natural reincarnation process. What HPS Maxine stated here is one example. The case here was a prolific race mixer and livid abomination. And yes, the Gods can punish people that way.

There is also worse forms of punishments relating to the above, and these are rare and case specific. All these race traitors and general scum you see around, will not be living happily for a long time, doing their bong, race mixing, and being total biohazards. They will be punished, and these things have their own time.

The above does not happen by natural circumstances. It is a directed punishment.

We stay in the same race every reincarnation we have." HPHC

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21177&start=50
 
Sarjam05 said:
Fuchs said:
Sarjam05 said:
Please help with answers.
1. What does seeing a turtle suddenly appear in your home in real life mean from a true spiritual satanist viewpoint?
2. Can the sacred animals to King Satan be eaten? Like goats?
3. Where do the dead souls of 2 rival gangs who worship Demons go? For example. Vikings confraternity worship Odin while The eternal fraternal order legion consortium aka klansmen konfraternity worship Ogor. They are both violent gangs who kill each other at the slightest excuse. Do these souls end up in hell with Father Satan? Or do they go to the Christian hell?

1. open door, living in a turtle region.
2. Every animal can be eaten, as long you honor/appreciate it. House/endangered or sacred animals should be only considered in dire need/life and death situations, Gods value your live more, you can inspire change in the world from which the animals benefit.
3. I guess, if they are both really dedicated, did not commit crimes which the gods will punish (in hell), both go to hell and have to live with one another, until they understand thear error, so in thear next life they won´t do the same.

In 3 you say punish in hell but @rationalsatanist says there’s no reward or punishment in hell.
What rationalsatanist meant is the judeo/christian version of hell. Of course the Gods will reward everyone who fought for them
 
Maybe this is the meaning for the turtle.



There was a giant turtle in my property recently. He was a species that always lives in the water, and he was very far away from any water. So he must have gotten lost. I had him for a couple hours. I gave him a bin with water to soak in and drink so he would not be dehydrated. And tried to give him food, but he didn't want to eat it. Then I had to put him in the car and drive him back to the water.

I was wondering if it was a message from any Gods or if it had a special meaning.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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