Smelly farts + thigh pimples

Nov 19, 2020#20

Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
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I am unsure exactly what liver condition would result in dry eye, but I imagine once the bowel movements and other aspects of the digestion become more normal, the liver will start to stabilize again.
Once your spleen heals, it will start to remove the dampness from the body. The exercise you do also helps the circulation and removal of this dampness, and my guess is that this is what had been counterbalancing the diet for some time.

Liver blood and liver yin deficiency usually cause this however poor circulation of liver qi (stagnation) can also cause this issue as is the case here.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

If you want a peaceful life, prepare for war

Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
...
I am unsure exactly what liver condition would result in dry eye, but I imagine once the bowel movements and other aspects of the digestion become more normal, the liver will start to stabilize again.
Once your spleen heals, it will start to remove the dampness from the body. The exercise you do also helps the circulation and removal of this dampness, and my guess is that this is what had been counterbalancing the diet for some time.

Liver blood and liver yin deficiency usually cause this however poor circulation of liver qi (stagnation) can also cause this issue as is the case here.

Nov 20, 2020#21

Centralforce666said:
You need to have:
Zhi Ban Xia (Pinellia Ternata) 15g
Ju Hong (Red Tangerine Peel) 15g
Zhi Shi (Immature Aurantii Fructus) 6g
Zhu Ru (Bumbusae Caulis (bamboo)) 6g
Fu Ling (White Poria Cocos) 9g
Zhi Gan Cao (Honey Fried Licorice Root) 4.5g
Place the dried herbs in several cups of water (enough to cover the herbs and provide sufficient drinking medium) and boil for 20 minutes.

Thank you so much! After boiling them, how should they be stored - sealed in a container or ziploc bag, and put in the fridge? Or left out in the open to dry out, and kept that way until needing to boil them again?
Should the herbs be on rapid boil for the 20min, or low simmer?
Is it typical that enough liquid from one boil will last for one day (two servings), and therefor the herbs will be re-used once a day? Or when you say "drink twice a day," I should be boiling the herbs twice a day and drinking everything from each boil in one sitting?

Centralforce666said:
You need to have:
Zhi Ban Xia (Pinellia Ternata) 15g
Ju Hong (Red Tangerine Peel) 15g
Zhi Shi (Immature Aurantii Fructus) 6g
Zhu Ru (Bumbusae Caulis (bamboo)) 6g
Fu Ling (White Poria Cocos) 9g
Zhi Gan Cao (Honey Fried Licorice Root) 4.5g
Place the dried herbs in several cups of water (enough to cover the herbs and provide sufficient drinking medium) and boil for 20 minutes.

Thank you so much! After boiling them, how should they be stored - sealed in a container or ziploc bag, and put in the fridge? Or left out in the open to dry out, and kept that way until needing to boil them again?
Should the herbs be on rapid boil for the 20min, or low simmer?
Is it typical that enough liquid from one boil will last for one day (two servings), and therefor the herbs will be re-used once a day? Or when you say "drink twice a day," I should be boiling the herbs twice a day and drinking everything from each boil in one sitting?

Nov 20, 2020#22

Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
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The redness on the forehead and edge of nose suggests heat in the stomach and intestines, according to the tcm face map. This is normally from anything heating, such as spices, but also an overabundance of something like meat. Things like gluten from wheat can also irritate the intestines and produce heat within them. If you suspect the grains are too drying, then rice would be a better substitute, although I doubt a piece of bread alone would cause this.
The hunger after the breakfast could be also indicative of stomach heat, although it could also be just from the digestive system being more active earlier. If you seek to introduce more cooling foods in your diet, look towards cooked vegetables, as opposed to fruit, as they will cool without being dampening.

Thanks for all this! I was reading into some of the other symptoms I mentioned, which had referenced potential stomach heat. Was not aware such little fruit would be helpful - always thought 2-3 servings a day was the minimum, but I can see how in my situation this may not be required. I'll reduce my fruit intake to only 1 serving per day and see what happens. I like my veggies, and my leafy greens - but could certainly increase the amount of leafy greens I eat on the regular. Will do that more. And more exercise too.

Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
...
The redness on the forehead and edge of nose suggests heat in the stomach and intestines, according to the tcm face map. This is normally from anything heating, such as spices, but also an overabundance of something like meat. Things like gluten from wheat can also irritate the intestines and produce heat within them. If you suspect the grains are too drying, then rice would be a better substitute, although I doubt a piece of bread alone would cause this.
The hunger after the breakfast could be also indicative of stomach heat, although it could also be just from the digestive system being more active earlier. If you seek to introduce more cooling foods in your diet, look towards cooked vegetables, as opposed to fruit, as they will cool without being dampening.

Thanks for all this! I was reading into some of the other symptoms I mentioned, which had referenced potential stomach heat. Was not aware such little fruit would be helpful - always thought 2-3 servings a day was the minimum, but I can see how in my situation this may not be required. I'll reduce my fruit intake to only 1 serving per day and see what happens. I like my veggies, and my leafy greens - but could certainly increase the amount of leafy greens I eat on the regular. Will do that more. And more exercise too.

Nov 20, 2020#23

Centralforce666said:
Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
...
I am unsure exactly what liver condition would result in dry eye, but I imagine once the bowel movements and other aspects of the digestion become more normal, the liver will start to stabilize again.
Once your spleen heals, it will start to remove the dampness from the body. The exercise you do also helps the circulation and removal of this dampness, and my guess is that this is what had been counterbalancing the diet for some time.
Liver blood and liver yin deficiency usually cause this however poor circulation of liver qi (stagnation) can also cause this issue as is the case here.

Would you recommend I take something in addition for liver qi stagnation, as it doesn't look like Wen Dan Tang covers that (or should this improve on its own once the stomach and spleen re-balances)?

Centralforce666said:
Blitzkreigsaid:
Hearsyncsaid:
...
I am unsure exactly what liver condition would result in dry eye, but I imagine once the bowel movements and other aspects of the digestion become more normal, the liver will start to stabilize again.
Once your spleen heals, it will start to remove the dampness from the body. The exercise you do also helps the circulation and removal of this dampness, and my guess is that this is what had been counterbalancing the diet for some time.
Liver blood and liver yin deficiency usually cause this however poor circulation of liver qi (stagnation) can also cause this issue as is the case here.

Would you recommend I take something in addition for liver qi stagnation, as it doesn't look like Wen Dan Tang covers that (or should this improve on its own once the stomach and spleen re-balances)?

Nov 20, 2020#24

The liver qi stagnation is secondary to the phlegm and dampness and therefore will resolve on its own.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

If you want a peaceful life, prepare for war

Nov 21, 2020#25

Centralforce666said:
The liver qi stagnation is secondary to the phlegm and dampness and therefore will resolve on its own.

Okay thanks. As for the herbs - after boiling them, how should they be stored? Sealed in a container or ziploc bag, and put in the fridge? Or left out in the open to dry out, and kept that way until needing to boil them again?

Should the herbs be on rapid boil for the 20min, or low simmer?

Is it typical that enough liquid from one boil will last for one day (two servings), and therefor the herbs will be re-used once a day? Or when you say "drink twice a day," I should be boiling the herbs twice a day and drinking everything from each boil in one sitting (meaning they'd be good for 8 boils = x2 per day, for 4 days)?

Centralforce666said:
The liver qi stagnation is secondary to the phlegm and dampness and therefore will resolve on its own.

Okay thanks. As for the herbs - after boiling them, how should they be stored? Sealed in a container or ziploc bag, and put in the fridge? Or left out in the open to dry out, and kept that way until needing to boil them again?

Should the herbs be on rapid boil for the 20min, or low simmer?

Is it typical that enough liquid from one boil will last for one day (two servings), and therefor the herbs will be re-used once a day? Or when you say "drink twice a day," I should be boiling the herbs twice a day and drinking everything from each boil in one sitting (meaning they'd be good for 8 boils = x2 per day, for 4 days)?

Nov 23, 2020#26

Cover the herbs with enough water to give you 1 1/2 - 2 serves daily. When the water runs out, replenish it so the herbs remain submerged and then cover the saucepan and put in the fridge once it's cool.

Herbs that are not covered with water or refrigerated will go mouldy.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

If you want a peaceful life, prepare for war

Nov 23, 2020#27

Centralforce666said:
Cover the herbs with enough water to give you 1 1/2 - 2 serves daily. When the water runs out, replenish it so the herbs remain submerged and then cover the saucepan and put in the fridge once it's cool.
Herbs that are not covered with water or refrigerated will go mouldy.

Okay, thanks so much!

Dec 1, 2020#28

Haven't had the chance to get any herbs yet, but from just a diet change alone I saw a significant change almost overnight. Cannot thank you all enough for the assistance! Will report back again once I've used to herbs if things have changed any further

Dec 7, 2020#29

Hearsyncsaid:
Haven't had the chance to get any herbs yet, but from just a diet change alone I saw a significant change almost overnight. Cannot thank you all enough for the assistance! Will report back again once I've used to herbs if things have changed any further

Great to hear, thanks for the update.

Feb 8, 2021#30

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Centralforce666said:
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Blitzkreigsaid:
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Replying here as an update to the usage of the herbs - Wen Dan Tang recommendation provided here.

I just stopped taking the herbs yesterday. Was recommended each serving of herbs would be good to re-boil for 4 days, so instead of doing 7 days of the herbs, I did 8 days (as I had two separate servings of the herbs).

The entire I was taking the herbs, some symptoms have increased, some have dwindled, some have stayed at par, and a couple new symptoms have arisen - so I wanted to post here to see if this is normal, or if maybe a different set of herbs would be recommended; however, since today is my first day off the herbs, I'll report back after a week to see if things have resolved, but wanted to see what your thoughts were on the new concerns.

Firstly, the loose stools had actually already ended a few weeks prior to taking the herbs, but the rest of the problems had remained. In fact, I was experiencing for a couple days a bit of some constipation (nothing very serious... took some triphala to help with that). Things are steady now. Bowel movements also steady - appx. 2 times / day.

When I started taking the herbs, and literally the entire week, the smelly farts had gotten MUCH worse. Far more stinky, and far more frequent. Only just yesterday is it starting to die down again (but seems to mostly be worst after waking up, or shortly before going to bed.

The front-of thigh & butt cheek pimples were still forming new ones all week. Only today have I noticed no new ones have formed, and, at least, my left thigh is starting to clear up a bit. Hope that continues. But during the week while taking the herbs, had some really big pimples form with big swelling.

Anal itching has been slightly reduced, but still there - mostly only a problem during sleep and immediately after waking up.

Facial dry skin on middle-lower forehead / beneath eyebrows, along sides of nostrils is still there.

Lung phlegm is still there, but not as terrible as it was weeks/months ago. This had also already improved before taking the herbs, so really no change since having taken them. Seems to be at a stand-still now (not getting better, not getting worse).

New symptoms:

Getting random nasal leaking. Just out of the blue, probably several times a day, my nose will just start leaking clear liquidy snot.

Just yesterday noticed what looks like a wart is forming on my finger, just to the left of my top finger knuckle on the middle finger of my right hand.

Diet:

I've followed the TCM dietary recommendations quite rigorously this past week, with either only a 1/2 cup serving of healthy grains max for the entire day, or no grains at all. Max 1/2 - 1 serving of fruit per day, some days none. Eating lots of veggies, all whole foods (nothing processed - unless it's something like brown rice noodles, or some hummus). Have been staying away from all foods that have been listed to contribute to dampness, and increasing foods and herbs/spices to remove dampness.

Exercise:

Just before starting the week of herbs, I fell ice skating and hurt my rib badly. Thought it was broken, but found I had just bruised the rib. Either way, exercise has been basically non-existent as I've been healing. Even tried doing one day of sitting yoga of simply poses that doesn't require turning of the torso, but even that was too much. Have managed a couple of walks - looking to increase that more as I heal, definitely not ideal as I was hoping to have daily yoga along with taking the herbs to ensure smooth flow of energy, etc.

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So, with that being said, is it normal to experience these new symptoms, or increased preexisting symptoms while taking these herbs? If there's any advice as to what I should do if at a week from now things are the same if I should do another week of the herbs, or perhaps try something else.

Thanks again for any help and assistance!