Shrooms

[dorime]

Hello everyone,

I have a question about using shrooms. I'm already aware of the ethical and potential negative effects that drugs can have on the body and soul. I've also seen another forum post about psychedelics that talked about acid and shrooms, but it seems like acid was discussed more.

Before I became a Zevist, I used shrooms and even took some microdoses. Every time I did, I had positive spiritual experiences that made me certain a god or gods existed, even though I didn't know who the true gods were at the time. I'd like to know what you all think about using shrooms occasionally. I'm not talking about in a addiction way, but rather using them in a conscious and wise way, with full awareness of the potential side effects.

Before I ever used them, I did a lot of research and learned that shrooms have the fewest side effects for the user and those around them. As a source, I can use the BBC website, specifically the article "https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11660210?ictd[master]=vid~9527eafd-ae9b-44ad-aa2e-7077a855d044" where mushrooms are at the very bottom of the list, making them the safest.

Thinking in a broader context, I wonder how you all view the use of hallucinogens by our ancestors. In many cultures, the use of these substances was common in rituals, but in a very different way than we see today. What do you think about this difference in context?

 

[Blitzkreig [TG]]

Hello everyone,

I have a question about using shrooms. I'm already aware of the ethical and potential negative effects that drugs can have on the body and soul. I've also seen another forum post about psychedelics that talked about acid and shrooms, but it seems like acid was discussed more.

Before I became a Zevist, I used shrooms and even took some microdoses. Every time I did, I had positive spiritual experiences that made me certain a god or gods existed, even though I didn't know who the true gods were at the time. I'd like to know what you all think about using shrooms occasionally. I'm not talking about in a addiction way, but rather using them in a conscious and wise way, with full awareness of the potential side effects.

Before I ever used them, I did a lot of research and learned that shrooms have the fewest side effects for the user and those around them. As a source, I can use the BBC website, specifically the article "https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-11660210?ictd[master]=vid~9527eafd-ae9b-44ad-aa2e-7077a855d044" where mushrooms are at the very bottom of the list, making them the safest.

Thinking in a broader context, I wonder how you all view the use of hallucinogens by our ancestors. In many cultures, the use of these substances was common in rituals, but in a very different way than we see today. What do you think about this difference in context?

There can be positive benefits to them, however, the main concern is the negatives which can come with them. While they open the mind up to experiences outside the normal senses, this can easily lead to delusion, as it is like an artificial experience of "realization", not the controlled energetic practice of a spiritual Zevist.

While the psychedelics can give higher sensory feedback to someone untrained with energy manipulation, this is like a false sense of reward and progression. In your case specifically, you also need to credit your likely past life experience with the Gods, which then came up during your trip. This was not created by the mushrooms directly; it had only worked off of underlying themes within you.

Further, the modern media and public audience tout mushrooms with high regard because it is their only experience with something that can possibly psychologically help them, but this is only because they drastically downplay, or even slander, meditation, hypnosis, yoga, and many other holistic therapies and medicines.

In other words, you are getting a highly biased review from people who have no experience with anything better.

 

[dorime]

There can be positive benefits to them, however, the main concern is the negatives which can come with them. While they open the mind up to experiences outside the normal senses, this can easily lead to delusion, as it is like an artificial experience of "realization", not the controlled energetic practice of a spiritual Zevist.

While the psychedelics can give higher sensory feedback to someone untrained with energy manipulation, this is like a false sense of reward and progression. In your case specifically, you also need to credit your likely past life experience with the Gods, which then came up during your trip. This was not created by the mushrooms directly; it had only worked off of underlying themes within you.

Further, the modern media and public audience tout mushrooms with high regard because it is their only experience with something that can possibly psychologically help them, but this is only because they drastically downplay, or even slander, meditation, hypnosis, yoga, and many other holistic therapies and medicines.

In other words, you are getting a highly biased review from people who have no experience with anything better.

Thank you for the response. What you said really makes a lot of sense, and it's a perspective I hadn't considered.

But that leads me to a new question, following your logic. If mushrooms can bring some benefits and act as a catalyst to reveal something already within us, would it be possible to use them in conjunction with yoga?

I'm thinking of this not as a replacement, but as a tool to accelerate spiritual progress. For example, could someone with spiritual maturity and experience in yoga use smaller, controlled doses to facilitate emotional release or deepen their level of visualization?

Would this be a form of energy manipulation that, while not traditional, could be seen as a way to deepen our practice?