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I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Saturn in fact is always bad. In a way or another one. I think we should do the saturn mantra now because he is in libra.
When it will be in scorpio, saturn will be more nasty.
In my case, I do it now for several weeks. One time spirituel mantra, one time material mantra. Better to prevent the bad effects of this filthy planet.
What do you think ?
Then, even if you have saturn in 1er house, you can bind this damn planet doing mantras HP Maxine gave to us.
Don't worry.
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Shannon Outlaw" <soutlaw92@... wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter, so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@ wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn, jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells. 

From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn

  Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter, so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@ wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Maxine agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Maxine said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Maxine gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Maxine do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@... wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells. 




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn

 
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "avemerodak" <avemerodak@... wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Maxine agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Maxine said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Maxine gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Maxine do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Thanks a lot HP Maxine and again, I learned things ! Thanks !!!!
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:


This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "avemerodak" <avemerodak@ wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Maxine agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Maxine said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Maxine gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Maxine do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
To summarise my inner state - I'm overjoyed =D Not because I have 2nd Saturn but because of what you said - Shannon, Avemerodak and High Priestess Maxine :D

And High Priestess, I also read, from an outside source that 2nd Saturn MAY contribute to wealth - but obviously via hard work. The Qabalistic Saturn square isn't that long (the shortest I guess:p), so I can perform the magic many times.

Once again, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK!!! :D:D:D

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], High Priestess Maxine Dietrich <maxine.dietrich@... wrote:


This is true, in that consistent meditation acts as a strong buffer to bad planetary energies. As for the Saturn, when it is in the second house, ironically, this does not necessarily mean life long poverty. Never give one who has a 2nd house Saturn any cheap trinkets or items that have little or no value as a gift, as these people take offense at such things. They place much importance on the value of the gift, not the thought, as a rule [there is always the exception, though].

There are millionaires who have a 2nd house Saturn. Most have to work hard though and money is not handed to them in life.

Those with Capricorn rising and Saturn as their chart ruler- the saturn here functions a bit differently. At worst, these people can be severely pessimistic at times, but the saturn transits through each of the houses fares better than for the rest of us. For example, the capricorn rising person who has a saturn transit to the 7th house of marriage and partnerships will more than often get married or in a permanent relationship. Those with other ascending signs usually experience break-ups and other problems.


High Priestess Maxine Dietrich
http://www.joyofsatan.org


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "avemerodak" <avemerodak@ wrote:

Siguard, I would like to add something here.
I noticed in my own experience but also during all my practice that the planets are not working anymore in the sens we except it when we reach a true spiritual level.
That is very important to keep in mind, and I would be very grateful if HP Maxine agree to give her opinion and advices here.
I read and have read a lot all JOS and I have all the booklets. I remember very well what HP Maxine said about Saturne in a very bad aspect with the ruler of her lunar chart. Nothing bad happened. Because she was in a sens "higher" than saturn, I don't know how to explain it better. Then Saturn can't touch her.
But, dont worry Siguard, really and all of you, brothers and sisters, this filthy planet will not be strong anymore, especially if you work the mantra HP Maxine gave which works amazingly (I do it for a while now) and empower your aura and chakra.
WORK WITH THE FIRE.
This filth of saturn is another way to activate the bad seeds of karma in us.
Exactly like in the cerebellum we have like an "enemy program". I experimented it, unfortunately.
Well, Saturn can be overcome.
And by the way, I knew personally 2 people who have saturne in the 2th house and they have a lot of properties, houses, and so on they rent. (they believe in nothing)
Then, obviously, saturn in 2 is :
1 - what Shannon said, she is absolutely right ;
2 - there is a possibility of being "landlord". But of course, all depends too of the other aspects of your chart.
HP Maxine do you agree or not ?
Hail Satan !

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Shannon Outlaw <soutlaw92@ wrote:

siguard, any house that saturn touches will cause it misfortune and negativity
in some way as saturn is generally a bad planet. Malefic. Saturn in the second
is not good for money and finances so if i were you i would work on the saturn,
jupiter and sun square. And also work on money spells.Â




________________________________
From: siguarddraconis <siguarddraconis@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 4:03:49 PM
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Saturn

Â
Okay, any piece of advice to Saturn in 2nd house? Money is a serious matter,
so... and hearing/reading all the stuff about Saturn makes me worried 'a bit'...

Siguard Draconis.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE ELDER GODS!!
DEATH TO THE RIGHT HAND PATH!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

Yup and it's my chart ruler.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@
wrote:

I've got that,n i also has a sun stellium.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:44 PDT Shannon Outlaw wrote:

well being born with saturn in the first house honestly aint really good
unfortunately. why? you have it?
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:28:08 am
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: "belthazorthemighty" <belthazorthemighty@
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Saturn

Is saturn in the first house bad?
 
Saturn
The new agers are trying to state that Satanism is a Planetary Saturn Cult and Satan is the planet Saturn. This is false as I will mention as to why here.


This is important the Jews are literally nothing more then a racial planetary Saturn cult all their magic works to put people under the Saturnine astral vibration. This gets confused by new agers because they look to insecure people who want to be big experts and just become bullshitters and con artists for guidance. Saturn is originally a Sun God. Not the planet we today call Saturn. No one of the Pagan Traditions was worshipping Saturn as a planetary force and its astral manifestations.

The sun is the force behind all material reality in the deepest sense its the symbol of Akasa. The ancient Romans stated Saturn is the Sun. Saturnalia is a solar festival. The Black Sun contains this mystery its not Saturn as a planet but the overcoming of Saturn by purification of the physical body and the union of the body and soul and Godhead. Think maybe these experts would note the solar symbols around the center and what this stands for. Its not a mistake the sun square is used to deal with a Saturn transit.


The sun is the great purifier and Saturn as the planet has always represented the dross. Chronos is the leader of the Titans. He is the planet Saturn to the Greeks. We mark time by chronology for this reason. Satan in the esoteric form as the God of the Mysteries is the incarnation of the solar force which overcomes the Titanic or Asuric and liberates one from the bondages of time. Satan is the serpent and the serpent and the sun are one and the same image. Who words for sun and snake are the same origin. The nu ager con artists try and say Satanism is Saturn worship in the sense of the planet. And they then demand you buy their new book or DVD. Always trying to sell something.

Sat-An is a title for the spiritual sun. An in Egypt is the title of the primordial sun God. The Ankh which from the Egyptian texts is the symbol of the four elements and its root AN is the ancient title for the solar God. The Ankh is the name of the divine being, and the sign of the four elements and the influence the sun has over them all. Sat is also a title of the spiritual sun as the power behind creation and its granting of liberation from time. This is why Sat-An means Eternal Life and Eternal Truth. The terms relate to the Magnum Opus and the super consciousness that comes with it.

The Gods in Sumeria where called the AN's. ANunnaki builds on this. To note the spiritual sun is generated by the union of water and fire or male and female its the primordial element and power.

The triumph of Spiritual Satanism in its own way is the ultimate external recreation of the theme of the Solar God triumphing over the Titans.


The Jews being a racial planetary Saturn cult shows they are a force of perversion and inversion the Titanic over the Olympic. Which is what they do. Then try and project this onto us. They fooled billions of people into worshiping the force of their own damnation and destruction. I note the jooz have been making movies corrupting ancient Hellenic Tradition where the hero choses the Titan and the idiots who rebel against the Solar or Olympian are made into hero's and great humanists. This obnoxious, rude and destructive edgy fuckwit attitude the jooz always push as cool is infused into the whole theme. All it needs is some glam rocking freaks in the background telling people to do cocaine and get AIDS which is the theme of most joozish produced rock music.
 
I bookmarked this one for later reading. I'm glad I did. I'll probably read it some time later again. It's very enlightening. As saturn, I knew is the planet of adversity. And, we actually supposed to morph into the biengs of eternal light, and divine inheritance. So, the kikes as High Priest Hooded Cobra 666 said, go that far, and further. I had a feeling it was in everything you look at, except if you are looking at nature. I will admit this, I still have a extremely long way to go in understanding a great deal of many things about spiritual satanism, and the spiritual concepts. As I am still a neophyte. But, I wouldn't be anywhere else.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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