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Relations Between Zevists: Clarifying The Subject

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos8 min to read

As there are people who might be new here, but also for more advanced members, I have to make a few points. The matter here involved relations between Zevists and what I write here comes from many many years of experience in this matter.

Over the years I have seen anything one can hope to see from this, therefore, I must post a few points of advice for everyone in case anyone wants to listen.

The fact that one is a Zevist or has dedicated, does not mean one is automatically a person to be blindly trusted or many other things which due to misconceptions can give people wrong experiences.

Further, the fact that one might have been "Accepted by the Gods", means few things in regards to what one does in reality, ie, as the hospital can admit a person with an illness, that doesn't mean that there cannot be cases where one is still a patient and not fully recuperated, metaphorically speaking.

Even if one is a Zevist, that doesn't mean one is the incarnation of the highest calibre of what this philosophy and approach to life has to offer.

The above takes work, and from the initial starting line, people move onwards to carve their own path in different levels of engagement, needs and adherence.

Many people are new, and many people still need to understand some fundamental points:

1. Have personalities that can be inconsistent with one another.
2. You do not out of compulsion have to match anyone else, just to co-exist at best.
3. That people don't have trauma or that they are going to always behave in the best way to you.
4. That they know the ways of the Gods or that they are that much of perfect examples of the path.
5. Trust, good will and all these things are not necessitated, and these manifest on people who have advanced in the path.
6. Misunderstandings, mismatching, or negative incidents can still occur, as they occur in every social interaction.
7. There can be some rotten people around that base their Zevism over literally nothing else but bogus claims, the exaggeration of which can be as extreme as any Christian or Muslim out there, if not worse.

Over the years I have met brothers and sisters who have to walk the walk, in that not everyone still has realized what they must do what they need in this path, and since every human being has their own pace, story, or where they are going, drawing conclusions about everyone to assuming everyone is on the same page should be understood to not be the proper approach.

Further, the more distant one seems from manners of good conduct, civility, and honesty, respect of privacy and care, the chances are higher that one, despite of being dedicated, one might have a lot of work to do.

The insistence to not work on certain subjects can arise powerfully in any entity that tries to improve, and no man is immunized from these.

One is also not obligated in this path to enforce others to advance, just to help if they can or want for the Gods and higher causes, and community exists for the benefit of all.

Forming relations which are borderline flat out negative, can happen, and if it does, that is not the mistake of the Gods, which commonly those of a lower understanding about how this path works might ascribe into certain situations like this.

I have seen some people who still have a few issues to work on, bring them into Zevism and not only not try to improve them, but mistreat others.

Syndromes of entitlement or self importance issues, jealousy, pettiness and many other things can exist in any person on earth, including also people who are developing in this path.

Difference here is the Gods are pushing people towards a higher example of self, instead of just allowing them to eternally exist on the lower level of existence. The path between this level however and the "present", is to be bridged by work that people might want to do.

As much as they can exist in reduced amounts here due to proper rectification and meditation practices, it should be clear that anyone who is a human being is a human being because there is still work to be done to ascend.

The takeaway in Zevism is not that these won't exist, it is normal for these to exist, but that one must work to improve out of this and to discover and build a better version of themselves.

The above is not easy. It is the task most human beings avoid. Zevists differ in that we look at this situation and want to solve it. As one is a Zevist, one must understand that all of us are unequal, which is a very good thing and as nature intends.

I have met repeatedly people who still have to do a lot of work when it comes to these matters, and no, your Dedication does not make you instantly into the perfect version of a Zevist.

Disregarding what one has to do, or one's development, can create anywhere from stalling to a serious backtrack of progress. As the situation can get worse, then all sorts of bad relations can still form, where the Gods or the community is really not responsible for this.

Just because you Dedicated or spent a few months or years meditating, that doesn't mean anything really and it's not something to take into full consideration, such as that now everything is sorted or let's say if one has been traumatized, this just went away fully. Issues that have not been addressed remain unaddressed.

While the fundamental good nature of a truth seeker exists, to bring this out and evolve in it, takes time and effort to manifest.

The dedication does the following: It opens the gates through which you must walk and improve yourself. You are accepted, but you are not yet fully manifested as a better being.

There is a whole process that has to take place in the community, Dharmic path, self improvement, and your works towards others that must be made a reality before you are a complete individual. This can take decades and decades.

Erroneous beliefs borne out of misplaced emotions, traumatic experiences, wrong information, or or understanding, can cause confusion in regards to the above.

Clearly, this path to self improvement can have all the things that life has in it, including negativity, pain, suffering, very good moments, and the general ups and downs of existence as they come.

All of these things are universal in everything that has to do with humanity, and they cannot be escaped from.

Zevists are also except of different people, ranked in their own respective levels of development, which have to do everything with both of what one "is" and what one "does" at the same time.

Everyone has their own karma, obstacles, abilities, gifts, and importance, different backgrounds and so on.

Issues of self acceptance or treating others negatively, can arise, same as all the good things. While the general level here is far higher than let's say anywhere else, that doesn't mean there is a complete absence of negativity.

Lastly, it's often times the case that people might not fully understand the depth of Zevism. This can lead certain people to do anything from taking a break, or leaving.

In the first place, one must look at the succeesful cases that have manifested the fruits of the path, not those who just simply don't set a baseline. That's like watching a bad football player and saying you want to be "like them".

In retrospect, if one wants success, one must look at other successful examples to set one for one's own self. If you focus on what has failed, then you will likely be making a wrong decision.

I have seen that this tends to have a discouraging effect on others, yet at the same time this says nothing about anyone else but it those who do this might have to do some inner searching themselves on how they escalated their own path in this way.

It should leave anyone else not affected, as it's a personal decision. How this affects anyone is up to them and the Gods, and their own destiny. It doesn't say anything about the Gods or about others in this case, because when one really know the Gods, they will understand that is besides the question.

This path strongly encourages teamwork, belonging and civility, but at the same time, one is an individual what must work on their individual self.

Nobody can coddle you and cater to you completely, and carry you without your own admission straight into the Godhead, nor Gods nor anyone.

One has to walk the walk themselves. Even if we receive help and encouragement, we still have to build the cut bridge of the Godhead by our own admission, no matter what knowledge or help might come in our way.

Soon, there will be a publication on the main Temple of Zeus Site in regards to ethics and the ethical treatment of other Zevists, including what the Gods expect of us. That would be an ideal perfect, and not the way things always will result in reality.

Again, we are all on different levels, different aspirations, capacities are not all the same.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#20

It's important to remember the purpose we've come here for, there's many things to learn from everybody and anybody, and to help each other.

Newcomers have often sought this to be an easy means to achieve "elitehood" or status, and end up disappointed. Many also forsake themselves and become obnoxious egotards, they will get no where.

It's important to maintain a white belt mentality.

If you are aren’t willing to sacrifice for your goals, then the goals become the sacrifice.

#21

Ironically I have been able to see other's point of view easily but before I didn't understand how other's didn't see things as I did. Which caused a lot of grief and annoyance to even arguments.

Thanks to me being around I can take time and be patient with people and get my words across better than before. Still not at a level I would like to be but it's better.

I have others here who are better at it and I do take inspiration from them and luckily this being a higher place than anywhere else I know these people want others to rise in understanding instead of acting toxic.

"In the darkness we have found strength, with which we will reach the highest light." - High Priest Zevios Metathronos

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#22
Lightningsnakesaid:

...

For spiritual work, how long does it take to achieve lasting change?
I mean a change that doesn't reverse.
For example, if someone is working on their discipline.

40 days compulsory, to make it permanent, but if you want a stronger and better result then you can have 80, 90, 120, 180, etc. days, but 40 days is the absolute minimum for lasting(permanent) results!!
Unless you're working with planet squares.You have to do it there the number of days corresponding to the given square.
For example, the Sun square should be performed 36 consecutive days, the Moon for 81 consecutive days, etc...
https://thuletide666.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/kabbalisztikus-nc3a9gyzetek.pdf

#23
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:
Lightningsnakesaid:

...

For spiritual work, how long does it take to achieve lasting change?
I mean a change that doesn't reverse.
For example, if someone is working on their discipline.

40 days compulsory, to make it permanent, but if you want a stronger and better result then you can have 80, 90, 120, 180, etc. days, but 40 days is the absolute minimum for lasting(permanent) results!!
Unless you're working with planet squares.You have to do it there the number of days corresponding to the given square.
For example, the Sun square should be performed 36 consecutive days, the Moon for 81 consecutive days, etc...
https://thuletide666.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/kabbalisztikus-nc3a9gyzetek.pdf

Thank you.

I was thinking of several years of work. At least 2 years. This 40, 80 days for me is just the start of something. But it doesn't boil over completely.

I want to lay the foundations for my next life.

#24

I've been through a couple of 40-day spiritual jobs, I wanted to add another 40 days, but it is better to strengthen the foundations first(astral sensitivity, visualisation, etc.), so I did not continue.Although you can raise energy without astral sensitivity for example by vibrating, but it is better to feel and see the energy.
But I will be doing a lot more spiritual works like this, but first I want to master astral sensitivity, visualization.

In fact, I want to achieve in this life the inaudibility, although the way I see myself, how far behind spiritually I am, will last until the next lifetimes of true ascension.

Lightningsnakesaid:

I was thinking of several years of work. At least 2 years. This 40, 80 days for me is just the start of something. But it doesn't boil over completely.

I want to lay the foundations for my next life.

Very good ambition!
I wish you the greatest success with your works!!

#25
This is the targeted message.
88HungarianSatanicWarrior666said:

I've been through a couple of 40-day spiritual jobs, I wanted to add another 40 days, but it is better to strengthen the foundations first(astral sensitivity, visualisation, etc.), so I did not continue.Although you can raise energy without astral sensitivity for example by vibrating, but it is better to feel and see the energy.
But I will be doing a lot more spiritual works like this, but first I want to master astral sensitivity, visualization.

In fact, I want to achieve in this life the inaudibility, although the way I see myself, how far behind spiritually I am, will last until the next lifetimes of true ascension.

Lightningsnakesaid:

I was thinking of several years of work. At least 2 years. This 40, 80 days for me is just the start of something. But it doesn't boil over completely.

I want to lay the foundations for my next life.

Yes, 40 days is better in the beginning.
At first I also did short works. 40 days, or a planet square.
But then I wanted to take things seriously. If it takes more years, it takes more years.

High Priestess Pythia to say that it takes several years to purify the soul completely.
So I undertook several years of deep cleaning.
But it is the case with many things.

I wish you all the best for your progress!

I do not know how far I will get in this life. In the beginning, I also wanted immortality.
But then I wondered.
First I want to create a life for myself in which it is good to be immortal.
My life now is not suited for that. But maybe later.

I've already woken up the Kundalini, but it's a difficult journey. Already in an awake state is another level.

Thank you very much and good luck to you too!