Is there a difference between the two? Symbolically, spiritually or literally?
Question #5736: Tartarus vs Hades
Ask Zeus Operator1 min to readIs there a difference between the two? Symbolically, spiritually or literally?
Yes, there is.
Hades is equivalent to Saturn and Tartarus must be equivalent to Pluto.
Tartarus is the bottom of the pit, where the soul has no return.
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... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.
Is there a difference between the two? Symbolically, spiritually or literally?
Yes, there is.
Hades is equivalent to Saturn and Tartarus must be equivalent to Pluto.
Tartarus is the bottom of the pit, where the soul has no return.
Hades is/rules a neutral place for normal souls to await the next incarnation and the Tartarus is for really unsalvageable degenerates.
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Hades is/rules a neutral place for normal souls to await the next incarnation and the Tartarus is for really unsalvageable degenerates.
Yes, there is.
Hades is equivalent to Saturn and Tartarus must be equivalent to Pluto.
Tartarus is the bottom of the pit, where the soul has no return.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
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Yes, there is.
Hades is equivalent to Saturn and Tartarus must be equivalent to Pluto.
Tartarus is the bottom of the pit, where the soul has no return.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
I expressed an incomprehensible thought pattern.
It was my fault, I'm sorry.
I was already aware of this information, the point is that you didn't understand what I said.
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... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
I expressed an incomprehensible thought pattern.
It was my fault, I'm sorry.
I was already aware of this information, the point is that you didn't understand what I said.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
I was comparing the model from a different angle.
Saturn=MULADHARA the code word for "hell" but which can also be a plane of existence for one in which the consciousness has not completely merged with the mind of the past life.
Tartarus can have several interpretations, not just this one.
Don't limit the visions because they are diverse, all these words are used for anything and everything of a specific nature.
Tartarus can also be a multi-headed monstrosity (someone will face this monstrosity when they die and have no salvation) but also simply an icy, wet, sticking Abyss
I can categorize this into levels of consciousness as well 7ceu-active consciousness
Tartarus=level of consciousness almost nil and still declining
There are various interpretations for countless things, we can safely assimilate one into the other as well.
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... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.
Hades is not Saturn. Hades is the god of the underworld, Pluto. Hades is also the name of the underworld/afterlife. Tartarus is a realm of punishment for the truly evil, it is not Pluto nor any god at all.
I was comparing the model from a different angle.
Saturn=MULADHARA the code word for "hell" but which can also be a plane of existence for one in which the consciousness has not completely merged with the mind of the past life.
Tartarus can have several interpretations, not just this one.
Don't limit the visions because they are diverse, all these words are used for anything and everything of a specific nature.
Tartarus can also be a multi-headed monstrosity (someone will face this monstrosity when they die and have no salvation) but also simply an icy, wet, sticking Abyss
I can categorize this into levels of consciousness as well 7ceu-active consciousness
Tartarus=level of consciousness almost nil and still declining
There are various interpretations for countless things, we can safely assimilate one into the other as well.
Tartarus is a place the has the same distance between Earth and Heaven, but below the Earth.
It's described as a prison for those who oppose the Gods in mythology, such as Titans and other criminals.
It's the inside of the belly of Gea/Gaia.
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Tartarus is a place the has the same distance between Earth and Heaven, but below the Earth.
It's described as a prison for those who oppose the Gods in mythology, such as Titans and other criminals.
It's the inside of the belly of Gea/Gaia.