My boyfriend claims he loves me,but also says he wants to have sex with other women .This is hurting me as I believe in loyalty and monogamous and commitment till death .Is there any ritual or magical spell that can change his mind so that he sticks only with me and becomes loyal only to me
Question #4854: My polyamorous boyfriend
1 min to readThe thing about the 5 wives is not literal, it's an allegory for the 5 elements.
By saying that Lilith is his favorite wife, is Pythia saying that the element closest to Satan is ether?
... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.
My boyfriend claims he loves me,but also says he wants to have sex with other women .This is hurting me as I believe in loyalty and monogamous and commitment till death .Is there any ritual or magical spell that can change his mind so that he sticks only with me and becomes loyal only to me
If he doesn't respect your opinion, then he doesn't love you.
I don't think your boyfriend is polyamorous, I think he doesn't want a serious relationship with you, or any other girl.
On the other hand, a couple can realize a relationship when a man has a second wife, provided that it suits his first wife, but this is a completely type of relationship, I do not think it is suitable in your case, besides, you may have legal problems.
«You will find on the left of the halls of Hades a spring, and standing by it a white cypress. Do not approach this spring at all. You will find another, from the Lake of Memory, with cold water flowing from it. Guardians stand before it. Say: 'I am a child of Earth and starry Heaven, but my race is of Heaven alone. You know this yourselves. I am parched with thirst and am perishing. Give me quickly the cold water flowing from the Lake of Memory.' And they will give you to drink from the sacred spring, and after that you will reign among the other heroes» - From the Petelia Tablet (300-200 BCE) 
HP Zevios Metathronos said it's allegorical. I never looked into this for myself as it's not something I felt I needed to know.
That's definitely weird as I remember reading that "Lilith is Satan's favorite wife" somewhere around here, and if memory doesn't fail me, it was from a trusted source, but even then, our notions change and improve with time as we grow closer to the Gods, so not too weird after all.
I am an Aspiring God, and so are you.
O Gods of the first dawn, Gods of Hellas and of Khem, of the rivers of Sumer and the snows of the North, of every people that once knelt before the true and the bright:
I declare before You and before the witness of all the heavens that Your Names are restored. Restored truly. Restored rightly. Restored in their power and their majesty and their original splendor.- High Priest Zevios Metathronos
That's definitely weird as I remember reading that "Lilith is Satan's favorite wife" somewhere around here, and if memory doesn't fail me, it was from a trusted source, but even then, our notions change and improve with time as we grow closer to the Gods, so not too weird after all.
Yes that was on the JoS, from about 20 years ago. It doesn't mean HPS Pythia inquired fully into the situation because we tend to mind our own business when it comes to the love lives of the Gods.
Maybe Satan does have 5, maybe not, it's not our business. For all we know, Lilith could be his only true wife in that sense. I'm not going to inquire about it because it makes no difference here to us.
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By saying that Lilith is his favorite wife, is Pythia saying that the element closest to Satan is ether?
If this is symbolic, this is a true interpretation. Most of these symbols have multiple different layers of meanings which reinforce and further explain each other. So this might not be the only meaning, but it is one of the true meanings.
Akasha is the highest and most important element. This is the source that all other elements are created from. And this is the source for all things that exist. Time, Entropy, and Creation are all describing the same thing which is energies from the ether progressively coming down into lower dimensions. This is progressively building more physical creation, as these forces are coming down and becoming physical things. Like High Priestess Pythia said, all inventions and all things that are created first start as an energy in the Ether, which becomes a thought, which becomes an idea, which becomes a plan, and which eventually is built and becomes a physical machine. This is a direct example of the flow of energies of the Akasha collapsing to lower dimensions.
This is also what entropy is. As this Akashic energy of creation is progressively flowing to all things, leading to all things becoming increasingly specialized and complex, as the natural evolution of all things to always grow in different directions. Growing in different directions to become stronger or better in a new area that did not exist before, building new things that did not exist before, and improving existing things to become perfect.
This flow of the energy of creation, and flow of increasing entropy, is also what is the flow of time.
All of this is coming from Akasha. And all of this is represented also by Lilith. As the highest of all gods, of course this fundamental force and action of all creation and all existence is what Satan is closest with.
The Gods are also not to be used for comparison with human relationship. The Gods feel more, think more, and more aware etc, deeper, higher, broader. You cannot compare a God/Goddess loving someone to a shallow 21st century NPC who can't tell the difference between an acquaintance and a friend, a crush and love itself, etc
The Gods' private lives are also their private lives. It's not our place to be nosy and be gossiping around.
The reality is that polyamory is not for the majority of humans. There are hangups, negative karmic seeds and other psychological problems that affect the majority of those claiming to be polyamorous.
Like an addiction or anything else, or why drug or alcohol rehab usually doesn't work. There is no way for anybody to fix an internal problem within anybody else. If the person with the problem does not want to change and does not care. The only way to fix it is for the person to decide to want to change and fix himself or herself.
And the idea of "this is how I am," or "this is how I express myself" are the exact opposite of anybody who wants to change or fix anything. These are statements from people who are determined to hold onto their problems and improve nothing.
Why is it always worded on the JoS as if it is literal? Is this deliberate?
If your goal is to educate the largest number of people as possible, it has to be written in a simple way that everbody can understand. Almost nobody has already the spiritual advancement, education, experience, large and open consciousness, or the knowledge to be able to actually understand all of the layers of meanings and all of the true meanings of symbolism.
So it starts with saying things simply that everybody understands. Then as each person grows and improves and advances, you will become capable of understanding deeper layers of meanings and you will understand more of what the symbolism is actually talking about.
Yes that was on the JoS, from about 20 years ago. It doesn't mean HPS Pythia inquired fully into the situation because we tend to mind our own business when it comes to the love lives of the Gods.
Maybe Satan does have 5, maybe not, it's not our business. For all we know, Lilith could be his only true wife in that sense. I'm not going to inquire about it because it makes no difference here to us.
I see. Understandable.
The Gods are also not to be used for comparison with human relationship. The Gods feel more, think more, and more aware etc, deeper, higher, broader. You cannot compare a God/Goddess loving someone to a shallow 21st century NPC who can't tell the difference between an acquaintance and a friend, a crush and love itself, etc
It's what I always assumed. One simple factual argument to support this, is that They are of course able of telepathically communicate with potentially billions of other beings at the same time.
Their Consciousness is something we can't even begin to understand as of now. So it's completely possible that at Their level you can truly be polyamorous, and I've always doubted that humans at this level could.
I am an Aspiring God, and so are you.
O Gods of the first dawn, Gods of Hellas and of Khem, of the rivers of Sumer and the snows of the North, of every people that once knelt before the true and the bright:
I declare before You and before the witness of all the heavens that Your Names are restored. Restored truly. Restored rightly. Restored in their power and their majesty and their original splendor.- High Priest Zevios Metathronos
It says in the JoS site that it was stated by Satan, directly. So it is probably literal.
In this very thread HPS Lydia says that HPZM said it's metaphorical, but anyway, both options make sense for several reasons.
Give a read to the previous posts in this thread to get the general feeling.
It's nothing certain, it seems.
I am an Aspiring God, and so are you.
O Gods of the first dawn, Gods of Hellas and of Khem, of the rivers of Sumer and the snows of the North, of every people that once knelt before the true and the bright:
I declare before You and before the witness of all the heavens that Your Names are restored. Restored truly. Restored rightly. Restored in their power and their majesty and their original splendor.- High Priest Zevios Metathronos
I cannot understand all these attacks against polygamy.
Do not forget that it was the boyfriend who opened up and admitted to his girlfriend that he needs to have sex with other women to fully express his sexuality. Not everyone is monogamous and as in this case, there are people who need to have several sexual relationships with several people, not because they are “low quality” or because “they don't care about honor and value.” As long as all parties involved are consensual, I don't see where the problem is. That is exactly why your boyfriend opened up and told you this. If you agree that he has other sexual relationships, fine, otherwise you should break up, since you have two different concepts about this and the prolongation of the relationship is not healthy for either of you.
That is why in Spiritual Satanism homosexuality for example is not forbidden or prohibited. Precisely because expressing one's sexuality, within the limits of common sense (if you are attracted to children of course it is a problem to be taken care of), is important for Spiritual advancement.
I can understand 'low quality' sentiment. I lived with someone who never had a discussion about wanting or needing an 'open' relationship. It wasn't until he got caught, that this was a discussion. There was no agreement on my part to that.
It wasn't because I wanted to 'limit' him per se. I just didn't want to get STDs or AIDS, etc. I knew that he would never have been careful, especially to essential details to really effectively limit the spread of disease.
Anyways, by the time this came to light, I had already been committed to an apartment together. So, it was difficult to just leave, as we both were on the contract. It was a very, VERY long six months.
He had perhaps even greater faults, lying, emotionally unstable, usually fits of rage, heavy drinking, and drug use. Very irresponsible financially. And of course, he typically blamed everyone else for all of this.
I have to laugh now, but I remember being shocked. After we finally parted ways, someone told me he took some drug with someone and that they both spoke to at least one demon during that time. I found it scary, but also a sense of 'are you serious'. This person was a laveyan satanist. I told him it was just the drugs.
I cannot understand all these attacks against polygamy.
Do not forget that it was the boyfriend who opened up and admitted to his girlfriend that he needs to have sex with other women to fully express his sexuality. Not everyone is monogamous and as in this case, there are people who need to have several sexual relationships with several people, not because they are “low quality” or because “they don't care about honor and value.” As long as all parties involved are consensual, I don't see where the problem is.
Just because someone has sexual and commitment hangups generated by past lives, it doesn't mean it is healthy for the to associate themselves with a polyamorous/polygamous identity. An hangup/trauma is still an hangup/trauma that needs to be resolved and healed from, not justified and defended.
They do not have a 'need' for that. They have a 'want' generated from psychic damage. The real need is to heal from that damage, which they are not self-aware enough to feel.
This is different from sexual orientation, which is a fixed characteristic of your soul like your sex and your race.
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