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Question #3177: What sort of punishment can be given to a rapist spiritually

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What sort of punishment can be given spiritually to a rapist who is living with 0 regrets ..Physical justice is a big mess ..
 
When we look at how rape affects the victim, we can deduce that the appropriate response would be emotional and spiritual crippling at least for a few years, or in extreme cases, for life. We are fortunate to have tools at our disposal for enacting this sort of consequence to the transgressor.

The justice system hardly punishes by taking freedom away for a few years at best. Then, on the other hand, we have mob justice by stoning and burning alive, not much better either (with the risk of wrongful judgment).

If anyone has better ideas, I would like to hear them.
 
Henu the Great said:
When we look at how rape affects the victim, we can deduce that the appropriate response would be emotional and spiritual crippling at least for a few years, or in extreme cases, for life. We are fortunate to have tools at our disposal for enacting this sort of consequence to the transgressor.

The justice system hardly punishes by taking freedom away for a few years at best. Then, on the other hand, we have mob justice by stoning and burning alive, not much better either (with the risk of wrongful judgment).

If anyone has better ideas, I would like to hear them.
Cure him of his psychopathy, make him accept jewus and blame and hate himself for the rest of his miserable life with all his might.
What you said is great to be applied together with this.
In addition to stagnating, he will destroy himself with self-hatred, and his future lives will be miserable.
 
Akay said:
Henu the Great said:
When we look at how rape affects the victim, we can deduce that the appropriate response would be emotional and spiritual crippling at least for a few years, or in extreme cases, for life. We are fortunate to have tools at our disposal for enacting this sort of consequence to the transgressor.

The justice system hardly punishes by taking freedom away for a few years at best. Then, on the other hand, we have mob justice by stoning and burning alive, not much better either (with the risk of wrongful judgment).

If anyone has better ideas, I would like to hear them.
Cure him of his psychopathy, make him accept jewus and blame and hate himself for the rest of his miserable life with all his might.
What you said is great to be applied together with this.
In addition to stagnating, he will destroy himself with self-hatred, and his future lives will be miserable.
I do not see how that is realistic, or appropriate. You speak like it is trivial to cure personality disorders (it is not), and then arises the question, should we (at this point)? Then you mention signing on to enemy programs which is counterproductive to our cause. As if that is even required for a person to feel bad about their situation.

Here's something realistic and appropriate.

:arrow: Remove or reduce status
:arrow: Remove or reduce financial capabilities (goes well along with the first point)
:arrow: Hamper or destroy relationship capabilities

All of the above will result in turmoil.

Another point I want to raise. I know rape is a serious offense, but not all cases result in absolute destruction of the victim. This begs the question, why would you destroy an offender completely when they have not caused equal destruction? In worse cases, when we talk about impenitent people, harsher measures are in place, I agree. However, not all offenders are hardened criminals, but simply degenerates who saw an opportunity and in their deranged minds acted upon it. Now, if we take the same mentality as a criminal when applying justice, is that justice, then? I wonder.
 
Akay said:
Forgive me if that's what I meant by suggesting that you join enemy programs, but that's not the only thing that would make you feel guilty about your situation.
Most Christians have a miserable life because of curses, add that to guilt and you're eternally cursed.
My only point was the damage that guilt does to someone, because they remain aware of their crimes and their misfortune.
I don't think it's fair that someone just stays poor and miserable without even knowing why they're in this situation.
With guilt he at least accepts misfortune as universal punishment
May I please ask that you simply leave Christianity out of this equation, thank you.

My list was not comprehensive, but to give an idea of something, and to spark a discussion. Which it did, and I am grateful. But I am not keen on seeing someone thinking Christianity being suitable for this purpose. It has to be eradicated, not used for our 'benefit'.

You seek misery for the transgressor. That is fine and it is possible to achieve with magick. Nightmares, guilty feelings, and being made aware of mistakes are very much in the realm of magick, along with many other things not yet mentioned. Justice does not require enemy programs to be utilized. Please use a bit more of your imagination.
 
It matters if you are involved with the situation or view this as a complete outsider. You have to reach to your own judgement based on your consciousness. Satya sent you the appropriate links for the level of this.
 
Akay said:
Henu the Great said:
Akay said:
Cure him of his psychopathy, make him accept jewus and blame and hate himself for the rest of his miserable life with all his might.
What you said is great to be applied together with this.
In addition to stagnating, he will destroy himself with self-hatred, and his future lives will be miserable.
I do not see how that is realistic, or appropriate. You speak like it is trivial to cure personality disorders (it is not), and then arises the question, should we (at this point)? Then you mention signing on to enemy programs which is counterproductive to our cause. As if that is even required for a person to feel bad about their situation.

Here's something realistic and appropriate.

:arrow: Remove or reduce status
:arrow: Remove or reduce financial capabilities (goes well along with the first point)
:arrow: Hamper or destroy relationship capabilities

All of the above will result in turmoil.

Another point I want to raise. I know rape is a serious offense, but not all cases result in absolute destruction of the victim. This begs the question, why would you destroy an offender completely when they have not caused equal destruction? In worse cases, when we talk about impenitent people, harsher measures are in place, I agree. However, not all offenders are hardened criminals, but simply degenerates who saw an opportunity and in their deranged minds acted upon it. Now, if we take the same mentality as a criminal when applying justice, is that justice, then? I wonder.
Forgive me if that's what I meant by suggesting that you join enemy programs, but that's not the only thing that would make you feel guilty about your situation.
Most Christians have a miserable life because of curses, add that to guilt and you're eternally cursed.
My only point was the damage that guilt does to someone, because they remain aware of their crimes and their misfortune.
I don't think it's fair that someone just stays poor and miserable without even knowing why they're in this situation.
With guilt he at least accepts misfortune as universal punishment

Feeling guilty because of fear is not the same as the guilt of consciousness and regret. You can extend the perspective more in, if there is worth in trying to curse so that a person sees their "mistakes", therefore correcting, definitely providing an actual service to them, in a way. Some, and this depends on the position of the victims, do not deserve correction or it can be futile, but as only a catalyst for more extreme behavior.

Stating this as an exercise of consciousness, not that your thought process of producing or revealing guilt is wrong. Guilt is a natural and in this case, healthy reaction of self reflection (conscious or not) of accepting and realizing that you have done something in conflict with your being.

Akay said:
Henu the Great said:
When we look at how rape affects the victim, we can deduce that the appropriate response would be emotional and spiritual crippling at least for a few years, or in extreme cases, for life. We are fortunate to have tools at our disposal for enacting this sort of consequence to the transgressor.

The justice system hardly punishes by taking freedom away for a few years at best. Then, on the other hand, we have mob justice by stoning and burning alive, not much better either (with the risk of wrongful judgment).

If anyone has better ideas, I would like to hear them.
Cure him of his psychopathy, make him accept jewus and blame and hate himself for the rest of his miserable life with all his might.
What you said is great to be applied together with this.
In addition to stagnating, he will destroy himself with self-hatred, and his future lives will be miserable.

You wish a combination of healing and punishment at the same time, which can sound actually very proper, but might miss the actual manifestation in perspective.

I think what matters most is not the individual itself here, and healing should be placed upon the victims more, as the extends of the behavior of a miserable individual may not be proper towards others in the future as it is not now either.

Life being short and in need of calculated efforts, we should not place so much care and love towards the extremely defunct, but cleanse all together these elements and let the judgement of the Gods take place on that we do not see or hold opinion.
 

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