People Of All Lines Of Work Are Accepted In The Temple of Zeus

If you are in the states go union. You will get pension and benefits. Don't work south of the mason Dixon line if you can help it. It's ratty as fuck down here and they don't treat their people well at all. Working maintanance outages at nuke plants is good money but you have to have a high level of integrity and a clean record, which should be no problem for an Zevism. If you are going to weld, work with refrac or grind alot a respirator is your best friend...

I was with my welding partner on one side of the waterwall in the boiler last April in a papermill. (They are nasty AF). I didn't put my respirator on while welding with an exotic alloy and within 24 hours my sinuses fucked me up and had me laid up in bed. Boiler flu is no bs.

Thanks for the advice.

For now, I'm "stuck" under the Mason-Dixon line, it would take a lot more money and resources than I have right now to move. Exception would be if a job offer were very high pay and included relocation assistance to compensate for losing my current support network.

I've dealt with papermills before, very messy and stinky places indeed, although meat plants are just as bad if not worse IMO. Have to air out the truck for hours on the freeway to get rid of the awful smell and flush all the bugs out.

What do you think about factory work?
Do you see it as any work or is it slave labor for you?
Do you think it is dignified to be a factory worker rather than an employee or shopkeeper?

What is JoS's position regarding this kind of work?

Yes, all work is dignified, and all work is honourable. All work has my respect personally. All people who do something deserve respect. Having done all sorts of things, I tell you this, there is no dishoroable work.

The mentality that there is any, while society and existence functions on many layers, is a mentality that is errant. This mentality was produced by forgetfulness that a society is upheld by the hands of many people, and overt focus on one's case.

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Magnificent post :!: :D
I respect people of all professions :D
I believe that every profession is important :D
Everyone earns as much as he can and does what he can. I believe that every profession should be paid with dignity and well :D

What do you think about factory work?
Do you see it as any work or is it slave labor for you?
Do you think it is dignified to be a factory worker rather than an employee or shopkeeper?

What is JoS's position regarding this kind of work?

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-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

Yes this is deffinently true, a lot of our society is very much based off of a weird heirarchy on what is considered good valueable work vs. bad unvalueable work. I am very grateful for what the Gods and Father Zeus have done for me in my educations and persing the gals for my line of work as a future History Professor.coming from an up-bring that was very xainity beleiving that viewed i would never work. well that was until i found the JoS. I have even come to see that even working o yourself spiritually is as just as good as working a job,since the spiritual is just as important as the other areas of the universe. being the physical,emotional astral etc.. Many of my success as of recent have come not just from my dedication to Father Zeus but also from performing the final Ritual and power meditations etc..
HAIL ZEUS!

That's very positive. The only thing we see as negative is to not do anything in life whatsoever, like complete laziness that is a manifestation of negative entropy, which we as Zevists fight against.

Distraction, also, is up there with laziness.

These people provide entertainment which is a whole sector of human life, and yes, these are jobs and viable too, as these deal with human attention.

While this might not be on the level of actual higher value provided to society, this is the level of society, and where the inflow and outflow goes. Therefore it is part of this and what it is.

I think it's undignified that people who work to produce essential resources are barely given what they need to survive meanwhile a guy kicks a ball into a net and and is showered in outrageous wealth.

When it comes to influencers I consider this to be completely predatory, as is hinted by the very name. These people are notorious for their constant scams, manipulation and exploitation of their audiences.

It's not just a matter of clickbait and somewhat false advertisements, it seems everyday a new crypto scam or ponzi scheme is promoted by these people, and I've lost all respect for the people working in this as a result.

These people provide entertainment which is a whole sector of human life, and yes, these are jobs and viable too, as these deal with human attention.

While this might not be on the level of actual higher value provided to society, this is the level of society, and where the inflow and outflow goes. Therefore it is part of this and what it is.

I think it's undignified that people who work to produce essential resources are barely given what they need to survive meanwhile a guy kicks a ball into a net and and is showered in outrageous wealth.

When it comes to influencers I consider this to be completely predatory, as is hinted by the very name. These people are notorious for their constant scams, manipulation and exploitation of their audiences.

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I agree that the mainstream view of the difference of value in manual labor and playing a sport at the highest caliber is all twisted in what really is valuable. That doesn't mean that playing at the level professionalism is parasitic at all and the problem itself isn't that pro sports exists but the way it's viewed by the masses.

It's also normal for exposed scams and ponzi schemes to be shared around more than news of influencers who are just decent humans doing their thing. Its an extreme on both ends to see influencers as holy like most of their followers probably do and seeing them as bad right away and losing "respect" for that type of job just because of the exposure of some. There's a lot of influencers out there nowadays.

People did the same with cops where one side says acab (all cops are bastards) to the other side that boot licks every officer they see and generalize all of them as heros. Every time I have a run in with a cop which I have constantly before (for non legal reasons but for other not relevant reasons) I just talk to them with the general respect I give to every person I meet and after a while it's easy to pick up what type of person they are. From my experience most are just regular humans doing their thing while only a few being pompous or showing signs of power hunger.

The normal thing to do would be to see everyone as the humans they are and acknowledge their skills and if one wishes to watch any certain influencer more then they'll see wether or not they are of decent character. Going in as neutral as possible. Obviously most people don't have this skill and become star struck but that's not the point here.

What we have now is part of society as HC said but yes we (society in general, obviously we here know better) do need a revaluation of how jobs are perceived and how much is being given back to them for what they do.

In case it wasn't clear with what I meant, I was speaking about how people can think that something is prevalent because it's shown in the media more and gets more clicks than the things go unnoticed everyday which the latter is way more than the bad stuff out there but most of this can be discerned with a clear and logical mind.

If you are in the states go union. You will get pension and benefits. Don't work south of the mason Dixon line if you can help it. It's ratty as fuck down here and they don't treat their people well at all. Working maintanance outages at nuke plants is good money but you have to have a high level of integrity and a clean record, which should be no problem for an Zevism. If you are going to weld, work with refrac or grind alot a respirator is your best friend...

I was with my welding partner on one side of the waterwall in the boiler last April in a papermill. (They are nasty AF). I didn't put my respirator on while welding with an exotic alloy and within 24 hours my sinuses fucked me up and had me laid up in bed. Boiler flu is no bs.

Thanks for the advice.

For now, I'm "stuck" under the Mason-Dixon line, it would take a lot more money and resources than I have right now to move. Exception would be if a job offer were very high pay and included relocation assistance to compensate for losing my current support network.

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Try a combination of the money mantra, Necronomicon for wealth, and sun/ venus squares when the planets permit. It's working for me slowly but surely so far. Up north is were the money is at too. The downside is the cost of living is much higher...but also oftentimes safer if you are out of the city.

I think it's undignified that people who work to produce essential resources are barely given what they need to survive meanwhile a guy kicks a ball into a net and and is showered in outrageous wealth.

You are making an uneven comparison. You are likely referring to professional athletes at the top of their level, given that you wrote: "showered in outrageous wealth". Only the very best athletes receive large amounts of money. The rest get by just like ordinary workers as most athletes pay to train and compete. I am taking all the people in the range of 'athletics' into account, even below the semi-pro level. This is very much alike to artists around the world. A minor part of the whole gets abundant wealth and or fame, most get by or struggle to get by.

Then there is the fact that in top-level sports there are massive amounts of money involved and managerial efforts in securing the best athletes, hence the pay is so high. Furthermore, the amount of training that goes into takes up most of the time anyway in the same manner that poor factory workers slaving for 12 to 16 hours per day. The major difference is that the latter can not afford a luxurious lifestyle.

When it comes to influencers I consider this to be completely predatory, as is hinted by the very name. These people are notorious for their constant scams, manipulation and exploitation of their audiences.

It's not just a matter of clickbait and somewhat false advertisements, it seems everyday a new crypto scam or ponzi scheme is promoted by these people, and I've lost all respect for the people working in this as a result.

What you are referring to is true, but you need to understand that this is akin to every other aspect of the modern world.

Positive and higher manifestations of this same avenue would mean people marketing useful and good things to others.

Employment is a necessary component of life, the unemployable get welfare.
We all need money to live at some point.
I’m a snake catcher and I catch the worlds 2nd and 3rd worlds most venomous snakes and by hand only.
I play with death everytime i relocate one but satan keeps me from deaths touch and let’s the 666 luck keep me safe.

I am at a lower pay rate than my previous job, but I do a better job of uplifting the youth and representing the community. My coworkers actually find me valuable and my manager respects me and my work.

I have studied a specific topic for years, something that I really love, and I have learned an extreme importance in "mastering the basics". This can be found even here in the ToZ, simply being aware of the world around you.

For a Zevist, when ones work does not require too much focus, we can let our minds wander in philosophy or focus towards spiritual practices.
I do often practice spinning my chakras, breathing in energy into my chakras, invoking and making prayers to the Gods. All while doing my work.

When work gets busy, I am greatful to be providing a wonderful service to my community. That my strength from skills I learned here and elsewhere, my discipline, leadership, wisdom, appreciation, understanding, focus, joy in responsibility, communication. All these things and more are highly valuable in allowing me to become successful at providing my "service to my community".

Being able to work, is a Blessing! Anytime I think of Apollo, and the way he rides his chariot over the sky, waking up all the working people. That these Hands ✋️ of man and women, are Divine and Godlike, and do craft ourselves towards the Golden Age of Aquarius. There are many things that set us apart from animals, and without a doubt, our Hands are one of the most important!

Try a combination of the money mantra, Necronomicon for wealth, and sun/ venus squares when the planets permit. It's working for me slowly but surely so far. Up north is were the money is at too. The downside is the cost of living is much higher...but also oftentimes safer if you are out of the city.

I've been doing aura programming and meditating on it being gold in color. Adding a mantra to this may also help, good idea.
I'm not a fan of the New England area (northeastern states), but I think there are other states that would be good to move to. I'll have to do some research. The bible belt in general is just not a good place for making money in my experience.

For those who are feeling down about their jobs, like it's nothing to be proud of or it has no future, I'd like to give you something to consider.
The main thing that changed this for me is having goals and knowing that the income from my job is supporting and facilitating my attainment of those goals. It especially helps that my goals involve being self-employed and therefore make the job a temporary thing, but anything you really want can do the same for you.
I also take the difficulties differently these days. Rather than them being things that suck, they are a thing with which to strengthen myself. From hard physical tasks to agonizing tedium to dealing with the absolute garbage I have to call my coworkers, I commit to endure and/or let my mind reframe it in the necessary way. It's all about one's attitude and I suggest you look up the actual definition of that word. Give yourself direction and purpose, and have at it!

Yes, unfortunately my father is a very self destructive person and owning a buisness like that simply spiraled him into further and deeper self destruction.

Its something I've had to come to grips with for awhile now, as there's alot more to the situation than I originally mentioned.

Toxic family members. Etc. My grandparents, his parents are complete scum of this earth, always with their hand out expecting something from him, and unfortunately my father never learned how to walk away and stay away from toxic sick people, and him enabling their behavior for years led to his own undoing, however only partially as he chose this.

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No worries and sorry to hear all that. I can definitely relate as half my family consists of high-functioning alcoholics.
Although these people work and earn decent money, they give into things that are harmful due to their own programming.

It's just like taking medicines to suppress symptoms and continuing to require a higher threshold. They get caught in a self-damaging trap of pleasure seeking and they often try to pull other people into it for validation and for answers in their aimless pursuit towards happiness (whether they realize it or not).

Thank goodness I only see my (larger) family once or twice a year. My brother even had alcohol issues sadly, but after getting sick and recovering he hasn't had a drop.

Sometimes it takes going through major negative karma to get through to one's ego (deeper self) which causes them to think more subjectively and openly.

Alcoholics are destined to face brick walls and even hitting rock bottom. It's up to them to make their next choices and follow through with them.

I hope all the best with your family. I know it can be tough as I have a person I won't even talk to anymore because of their past mistakes (I just get filled in by hear-say).

It's a shame how common this is but hey, that's all by design and it's all the more reason to look forward to the positive changes that await humankind.

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Hear, hear!

Not much to add to what you said. I may not have an in depth understanding of the subject or economics in general but it pisses me off to think of this. Reinstating meritocracy is long overdue.

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So people are supposed to work their entire lives and not have a way to relax outside of meditations? Entertainment is definitely overfocused on in todays society, but it is still a natural element of human society. What civilization in history has had no form of entertainment? The way you describe society should be, sounds very dystopian as well. You said only warriors and laborers have value, then what about priests and rulers?

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So people are supposed to work their entire lives and not have a way to relax outside of meditations? Entertainment is definitely overfocused on in todays society, but it is still a natural element of human society. What civilization in history has had no form of entertainment? The way you describe society should be, sounds very dystopian as well. You said only warriors and laborers have value, then what about priests and rulers?

The situation Dahaarkan doesn't understand is that each next chakra has more influence than the previous one, and that's why society and existence is as it is.

Entertainment is as necessary as anything else in life, and falls under the Heart Chakra. Only few people particularly enjoy things like being gravediggers and things like that for the most part. This is how existence works.

Society is underfunctioning and purposeless if only the above takes place, but a balance is required.

Labor and warriors fall under two chakras and while important, they are not more "essential" than anyone else, as everyone is essential.

The most important elements of society are those who cannot be replaced. A society where the "warriors and laborers" have the ultimate control, will be wrecked, in contrast to what Dahaarkan wants to believe would be the case, simply because of lack of wisdom and a mind to run it, same as lack of other elements represented by the higher octaves of existence, which makes life valid and tames certain forces.

What he is right about is that currently certain things are over-estimated while they provide minimal function to society, yet this function is apparently what society "needs" at this point, whether or not people want to accept this on a "theoretical" level.

So people are supposed to work their entire lives and not have a way to relax outside of meditations? Entertainment is definitely overfocused on in todays society, but it is still a natural element of human society. What civilization in history has had no form of entertainment? The way you describe society should be, sounds very dystopian as well. You said only warriors and laborers have value, then what about priests and rulers?

The situation Dahaarkan doesn't understand is that each next chakra has more influence than the previous one, and that's why society and existence is as it is.

Entertainment is as necessary as anything else in life, and falls under the Heart Chakra. Only few people particularly enjoy things like being gravediggers and things like that for the most part. This is how existence works.

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The situation is you totally misunderstood what I am saying which is that people who provide humanity with essentials should be more respected and valued especially in comparison to those that only contribute with non-essential services such as entertainment.

This is not to say that anybody who does not work in such sectors is automatically worthless. Only that a profession in entertainment is less valuable than working with essential things for humanity's continued existence.

A person who kicks a ball into a net is not as valuable as a person whose labor feeds thousands of people. This is common sense and undeniable.

This is corroborated by a post you yourself made like 2 days ago announcing JoS will start placing those who contribute more to the struggle in a higher regard than those who contribute nothing. So why is this philosophy applicable to JoS but not the rest of the world?

None of the JoS Guardians achieved the respect and position by posting memes and jokes to entertain other members. They achieved this by contributing to the struggle and the title is itself a recognition of their work, or am I wrong?

People who contribute with essential things should be treated with much more respect than what they are given in this day and age and I don't understand why you literally run JoS adhering to this philosophy but now want to disagree with me for no reason, when you literally run things this way...

And I never claimed you have to put workers or warriors in full control. I said these people should be treated with the utmost respect because their labor is essential to humanity's survival.

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So people are supposed to work their entire lives and not have a way to relax outside of meditations? Entertainment is definitely overfocused on in todays society, but it is still a natural element of human society. What civilization in history has had no form of entertainment? The way you describe society should be, sounds very dystopian as well. You said only warriors and laborers have value, then what about priests and rulers?

Quote the text in which I said entertainment needs to be abolished.

I said entertainers shouldn't be held in higher regard than laborers who literally are the reason you have food on your table. I didn't say they are worthless just that they shouldn't be considered above the laborers who are the lifeblood of a nation.

So people are supposed to work their entire lives and not have a way to relax outside of meditations? Entertainment is definitely overfocused on in todays society, but it is still a natural element of human society. What civilization in history has had no form of entertainment? The way you describe society should be, sounds very dystopian as well. You said only warriors and laborers have value, then what about priests and rulers?

Quote the text in which I said entertainment needs to be abolished.

I said entertainers shouldn't be held in higher regard than laborers who literally are the reason you have food on your table. I didn't say they are worthless just that they shouldn't be considered above the laborers who are the lifeblood of a nation.

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Since we're playing word games quote the text were I said that you said "entertainment needs to be abolished."

The laborers and the warriors are the highest and most superior classes of human being and everything else is beneath them on the social ladder, or at least that's how a functional society should work.

With your seemingly incredibly low view of all jobs outside of laborers and warriors, if society adopted this attitude en mass then all artists and musicians would stop producing music and art since no one would value them "that" much anymore. As well as athletes not being welling to put in the incredible amount of effort required to be good. Life can suck enough sometimes without being in a world with no good music to listen to no good art to appreciate, and no athletes to inspire people.

The world is messed up right now because things are forced to an extreme. If your thoughts on jobs were implemented then things would just be another extreme and therefore still messed up.