Not sure where to put this. Allow me to introduce myself.

Lucifer-LeGivordenMay 16, 20193 min to read

May 16, 2019

Hey there folks! Sorry if this is in the wrong spot as I have no clue where to introduce myself. Moderators, if this is in the wrong spot please correct it. Thanks.

Ok so here we go. I'm Lucifer LeGivor. Most folks call me Legi online. I don't really care what I'm called as long as it's not "late for dinner". Lol.

Ok bad joke I know.

I am a solitary practitioner and am not affiliated with any particular Satanic organization as I tend to not fit in with most. "Why is that?" you may ask.

Well before anyone freaks out on me. I'm not a Gilmore flunky. Nor one of his Itheist/Atheist sheeple who use the term "Zevist" simply for the shock factor. I do however identify as a "Classical" or "Theistic" Laveyan. This of course is a reference to the pre-1975 schism of the CoS that brought around the ToS.

That being said I do understand the terms here, and will only discuss my personal views when directly asked about them. Aside from that folks can visit my YouTube channel for more info there.

So what is a Laveyan of any sort doing here? Looking for some like minded folks. Not only spiritually, but politically and morally. In short and to those who get my meaning, 88.

So a bit of my background. I've been around the net since the days of AOL. And have been an active Zevist for over a decade. Before that I was a Wiccan High Priest formally train via the three year apprenticeship to an Alexandrian/Gradinarian coven. Not one of the little ones either. I'm talking about the big international one with direct linkage to Dr. Gardner. So serious old school Wicca.

I left Wicca around 2007 or so and took on the mantle of Zevist after of course reading LaVeys book. By 2011 I published my first book on Satanism called "The Satanic Testament". (You can find it on amazon.)

My current projects are writing a revised and expended version of my book and working on another. I'm also active on YouTube, where I post videos covering topics from politics to movies and finally Zevism directly. I recently posted a video of a solo Black Mass ritual.

There is more to me obviously. Current hobbies include being a Dad, writing, vloging, training my dogs, and rocking my xbox. I'm a classic movie buff, and I do enjoy a bit of tongue in cheek humor.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope to meet some interesting folks.

Lucifer LeGivor

Hey there folks! Sorry if this is in the wrong spot as I have no clue where to introduce myself. Moderators, if this is in the wrong spot please correct it. Thanks.

Ok so here we go. I'm Lucifer LeGivor. Most folks call me Legi online. I don't really care what I'm called as long as it's not "late for dinner". Lol.

Ok bad joke I know.

I am a solitary practitioner and am not affiliated with any particular Satanic organization as I tend to not fit in with most. "Why is that?" you may ask.

That being said I do understand the terms here, and will only discuss my personal views when directly asked about them. Aside from that folks can visit my YouTube channel for more info there.

So what is a Laveyan of any sort doing here? Looking for some like minded folks. Not only spiritually, but politically and morally. In short and to those who get my meaning, 88.

There is more to me obviously. Current hobbies include being a Dad, writing, vloging, training my dogs, and rocking my xbox. I'm a classic movie buff, and I do enjoy a bit of tongue in cheek humor.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and I hope to meet some interesting folks.

Lucifer LeGivor

Jul 19, 2019#41

This is the targeted message.

Ol argedco luciftiassaid:
NinRicksaid:
wideee
If you are going to stretch a word, why not stretch the vowel "i" in the middle of it? You stretch the silent e on the end that doesn't have a sound anyway. :lol: :D

Yeah, I was thinking, "WtF is 'Widdy'?". :P Mebbeee 'e's on dat widdy wacky baccy.

Jul 20, 2019#43

This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.

This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

Jul 20, 2019#44

Forums Contributorsaid:
This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.
This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

It's not the first time someone has lobbed the "plagiarism" accusation about, but it's still infuriating because it's patently untrue. All one has to do is look. Every article/sermon that references material has citations. Often with in-text citations even, which aren't even explicitly necessary in this type of setting. This is a particularly see-through attack.

Forums Contributorsaid:
This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.
This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.

Jul 20, 2019#45

Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
Forums Contributorsaid:
This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.
This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.
It's not the first time someone has lobbed the "plagiarism" accusation about, but it's still infuriating because it's patently untrue. All one has to do is look. Every article/sermon that references material has citations. Often with in-text citations even, which aren't even explicitly necessary in this type of setting. This is a particularly see-through attack.

I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
Forums Contributorsaid:
This individual accuses us of plagiarism without any evidence, while waving around the Satanic Bible, by Lavey as some authority source.... While not understanding its well known Lavey actually used plagiarism from the book Might Makes Right, by Arthur Desmond [Ragnar Red Beard] for certain sections of the Satanic Bible.
This guy is a big brained genius, he has told us all himself many times in the video.
It's not the first time someone has lobbed the "plagiarism" accusation about, but it's still infuriating because it's patently untrue. All one has to do is look. Every article/sermon that references material has citations. Often with in-text citations even, which aren't even explicitly necessary in this type of setting. This is a particularly see-through attack.

Jul 20, 2019#46

HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
The Cult argument is so retarded, coming from LaVeyans. They are literally called after the literal surname of their main center man, LaVey. Without LaVey the CoS simply collapsed as there was nobody to play the church organ and do the flashy rituals that kept the "Definitely not a cult" going. Somehow, we are the cultists instead, who no instagram face, require no subscriptions for learning, and so forth.

@HP Zevios Metathronos:

The sheer fact is in his video he does state we are cult. But he is actually stating a anti-ToZ meme coming from people who created anti-ToZ movements.

Basically he mis-interpreted cult when he forgot to state: eCult or electronic Cult. So in other words he states we are a cult in the electronic frontier without/forgetting to state eCult.

P.S.: @Mageson/@Zevios.

How far have you guys delved into anti-ToZ people, groups, and or organizations?

I'm curious as to how far some of these guys try and lurch forward and trip us up. I've done some light research but perhaps it didn't satisfy me enough.

(I merely wish to have a more solid ground on which to understand the situation. Much like high priest posts on this thread.)

Last edited: May 4, 2026

HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:
The Cult argument is so retarded, coming from LaVeyans. They are literally called after the literal surname of their main center man, LaVey. Without LaVey the CoS simply collapsed as there was nobody to play the church organ and do the flashy rituals that kept the "Definitely not a cult" going. Somehow, we are the cultists instead, who no instagram face, require no subscriptions for learning, and so forth.

@HP Zevios Metathronos:

The sheer fact is in his video he does state we are cult. But he is actually stating a anti-ToZ meme coming from people who created anti-ToZ movements.

Basically he mis-interpreted cult when he forgot to state: eCult or electronic Cult. So in other words he states we are a cult in the electronic frontier without/forgetting to state eCult.

P.S.: @Mageson/@Zevios.

How far have you guys delved into anti-ToZ people, groups, and or organizations?

I'm curious as to how far some of these guys try and lurch forward and trip us up. I've done some light research but perhaps it didn't satisfy me enough.

(I merely wish to have a more solid ground on which to understand the situation. Much like high priest posts on this thread.)

Jul 20, 2019#47

Lucifer-LeGivordensaid:
Venus Orionsaid:
You are quite right. It was a gut reactionary thing. I'd like to apoligize for being rude. :)
Wasn't very nice of me. :oops:
Not a problem. No apologies needed, but it is accepted.

Welcome to our Group. We are happy to see people of higher standing such as yourself show interest in us. I ask that the powers of Satanas be laid upon you.

The purpose of this group is not like other groups, that talk about the 5 million ways of reality and the purpose of chaos magick while smoking weed.

We are here for SATAN. HIS energy is imbued here. The Blue Fire of Satanas touches everything. Perhaps you would like to meet him or one of His DEMONS.

THAT is our true purpose.

SATANAMA

Lucifer-LeGivordensaid:
Venus Orionsaid:
You are quite right. It was a gut reactionary thing. I'd like to apoligize for being rude. :)
Wasn't very nice of me. :oops:
Not a problem. No apologies needed, but it is accepted.

Welcome to our Group. We are happy to see people of higher standing such as yourself show interest in us. I ask that the powers of Satanas be laid upon you.

The purpose of this group is not like other groups, that talk about the 5 million ways of reality and the purpose of chaos magick while smoking weed.

We are here for SATAN. HIS energy is imbued here. The Blue Fire of Satanas touches everything. Perhaps you would like to meet him or one of His DEMONS.

THAT is our true purpose.

SATANAMA

Jul 20, 2019#48

FancyMancysaid:
Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
Forums Contributorsaid:
I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

I had a similar thought when this shitty argument squirmed its way back into the zeitgeist. They seemingly act like it'd be preferable that everything on the site and forums be information given directly by the Gods to be shared here - and in the scenario where that actually is the case, they'd complain that we're not corroborating with other independent sources so it's just personal ramblings. It all boils down to the same conclusion of it not being worth the time to persist in that struggle.

FancyMancysaid:
Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
Forums Contributorsaid:
I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."

Jul 22, 2019#50

Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
FancyMancysaid:
Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."
I had a similar thought when this shitty argument squirmed its way back into the zeitgeist. They seemingly act like it'd be preferable that everything on the site and forums be information given directly by the Gods to be shared here - and in the scenario where that actually is the case, they'd complain that we're not corroborating with other independent sources so it's just personal ramblings. It all boils down to the same conclusion of it not being worth the time to persist in that struggle.

The proof is in the pudding, and puddings tend to be sweet, but people either don't want to eat it or they prefer to starve.

Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
FancyMancysaid:
Powstanie Pogańskiesaid:
I said recently that people need to make sure we are a million billion trillion - gazillion Brazillian - percent amazing with zero things wrong or bad...but they will still try and make - when they cannot find - reasons and excuses. "Muh too-lazy-to-check-citations sadz."
I had a similar thought when this shitty argument squirmed its way back into the zeitgeist. They seemingly act like it'd be preferable that everything on the site and forums be information given directly by the Gods to be shared here - and in the scenario where that actually is the case, they'd complain that we're not corroborating with other independent sources so it's just personal ramblings. It all boils down to the same conclusion of it not being worth the time to persist in that struggle.