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mandy_moo9231 min to read

I'm looking for as much information on Marijuana as possible. I've been smoking on and off for 6 years, the past two years it's been daily. As of yesterday I learned thanks to this Yahoo group that Marijuana is not good for spiritual advancement. My SO has been smoking for about 9 years almost daily. (He started when he was 13, I started at 16) I have a bunch a questions about this topic..
How exactly does Marijuana affect someone spiritually?
Does it have any benefit?
Is smoking Marijuana better than prescription drugs?
How long does it take to reverse damage done by Marijuana?
Did I turn my brain to mush? lol
I'm hoping to making the transition to sober life easy for the both of us, we don't drink or consume any other substances, meditate, eat as healthy as possible, but even though its only been one morning things have been stressful.  Does anyone have anything that's specifically helped them in regards to quitting pot?

Also I'd love to hear people's spiritual experiences on/off Marijuana.

#21

I have smoked a lot before in my life.I have a theory:If toking clears your head up(and I know it can)it means you have a couple stant "fog" that needs clearing and then you'll be enlightened without it.Becoming and all day and/or every day smoker is just plain bad.Then your either on your way to not even feeling anything(just bisunes as usual)or you're already there.I can recall when I lost interest in Laveyan atheism and before I got too far into Zevism and I began smoking while trying not to kill my tolerance,I'd hear things like "you should be able to focus this much and appreciate things you forget without this substance".You know,positive things.But I'd also get panic attacks and doubt.I got them much harder before that when I didn't so much as drink but now it's presumably only possible if I have some drug like that.So marijuana seems to have some "opening" effect.But when the front door is open.You can catch an invigorating,cool  summer breeze(a great moment of clarity and awareness) while at the same time some people you don't know can come in and Rob/rape(enemy influence or "possession") you as well as your pets or children leaving you(losing things).So the ideal thing would be to find a way to get that cool summer breeze without leaving the front door open.   People here will single you out and treat you differently if they know you smoke weed.If it were anything beyond weed I'd do the same but I do agree: ITS NOT GOOD,I just arrive at that conclusion differently. Although it may feel better than you would while not using it.I don't believe someone who is interested in knowing our true God's should be treated like a wart or a loser for this reason.Unless of course you've gone full bongoloid and named your bong and wear pot leaves.-Hail to the Father!

#22

Helps you think? You must have been Blitzed, Whenever The 50 some odd posts by our Clergy were made on this subject.

#23

Belive me sooner or later you realise how much of a hinderence it is. Weed high is just an imitation of meditation highs. Personally i found it feels like stimulating your pineal glad while you are sitting on your moon chakra while destroying your single point concentration ability

Also give this a try: Dont smoke for 24 hours then focus on an object of your choosing but im not talking about getting stuck in the moment kind of concentration, almost like try to energise it and soon enough a small pressure will build it around your temples and will make it unberable to stay focused
All personal experiance

HAIL SATAN

#24

Lol no, marijuana is bad for each and everyone's spiritual side to a degree. The enemy tries to get people to use this as a fake form of spirituality, it's doesn't make truly open you to the spiritual, like power meditations and spiritual practice do. But its good that you don't smoke and do meditations. They should be done in a sober state obviously, for best results. Also, for those who smoke this stuff, you guys need to keep your aura strong and clean and protected.
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I am a smoker.

I think it not being good spiritually depends on the person
but idk. It does nothing but help me think and open my mind
to spirtual things. I dont smoke and meditate at the same
time.









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#25

These replies really helped us! Tomorrow will be our final day, and I look forward to seriously starting this path. I noticed a while ago something was slowing me down, but I didn't realize it was the weed..Mediation felt pointless, and I felt stuck in a loop, wellllllll it was totally the pot. The spiritual attacks are real holy shit. I had no idea the weed was causing them, I was pretty confused by my lack of protection.... I'm so excited to see what we are going to do sober.  Thanks everyone, I'd recommend quitting to anyone who still currently smokes.

#27

So lately I've been ocasionaly been getting a super high feeling in my meditatuons. Strangely enough I often get it doing the special aura cleaning ritual when I hold the mini sun over my head. I did it once in the sunlight and it beamed into my third eye and I had extreme sense of well being and bliss ALL OVER.

I cannot control when this happens yet, but in time I will be able t get super high, safely for hours if I choose. And it's good for you.

So then I listen to some metal and it was so similar to when I'd get high and do that. The changing textures of the music and pulsing bass massaged parts of my brain and entire being, which I used to feel when high and listen to music.

And... i felt like a full body orgasm sensation. Never had that before in meditation or drugs. Like a fucking euphoric orgasm all the fuck over. But no I wasnt doing anything sexual. Just orgasmic and feel good euphoria thru this meditation.

#28

Doing any drugs just for recreational purpose is disgraceful. Ask our Gods about this, and you will get the obvious answer.
What are you even doing with our Father SATAN if you're going to be stoned moron who is unable to have a control over his mind and somewhat over their body for hours? Are you familiar what does it mean to be a Spiritual Satanist? Are you aware that you, as Satan's child need to become a God, just as our Father intended for us to be hundreds of millennia ago. Do you even realize what does it mean to finish the Magnum Opus and become a God/Goddess? Do you see yourself as God/Goddess when you're so high that you're out of your mind? You see a moron, a stoned animal, thats what you see. 
So, instead of working on your soul and evolving step by step, you're stunning or delaying your evolution by using mind altering substances which do nothing more but open up certain brain areas, which leaves door wide open for the enemy influence, confusion and disorganized thinking. You're damaging your soul and aura with drugs, and that is quite the opposite of what you should be doing. That is disappointing and unacceptable at so many levels. You should know what you should be doing, practice power meditations, and in time you will absolutely see no purpose in using mind altering substances, in fact, you will look at your previous self with pity. Yes, I am telling you this because I have strayed away from SATAN's path years ago, and I still can't forgive myself, even if Father has forgiven me and accepted me back. If I was doing certain drugs just a little bit longer, I don't know if I could ever come back in one piece.
Ditch away the filth that is holding your back, and giving you a temporary pleasure at the expense of your very soul and body. Grow, evolve, and become a God/Goddess!
-Larissa

#29

@hailodin666. Ref meditation high
It was discussed once about doing personal advancement meditations during this meditation high. I find it's like super-sizing the lesson. 
Lately, I give this energy [during the high] to my GD, Satan or Lilith [my 3 faves]. They've told me thanks several times! Ask your GD about it. 
Hail SatanHail Lilith
Dehna

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I cannot control when this happens yet, but in time I will be able t get super high, safely for hours if I choose. And it's good for you.

So then I listen to some metal and it was so similar to when I'd get high and do that. The changing textures of the music and pulsing bass massaged parts of my brain and entire being, which I used to feel when high and listen to music.

And... i felt like a full body orgasm sensation. Never had that before in meditation or drugs. Like a fucking euphoric orgasm all the fuck over. But no I wasnt doing anything sexual. Just orgasmic and feel good euphoria thru this meditation.

#30

We are on day 5 of not smoking, and it's been amazing! Last night I remembered a good amount of my dreams. First time in two years I could remember more than just one, if any.

Just five days, and I'm no longer thinking I'm going insane, I feel so powerful!

I'm so excited to see how we're doing after a couple months like this, and even more so in a few years!

#31

Mandy_moo923, that's great that you are on day 5 of not smoking! Good work, keep it up!

We are on day 5 of not smoking, and it's been amazing! Last night I remembered a good amount of my dreams. First time in two years I could remember more than just one, if any.

Just five days, and I'm no longer thinking I'm going insane, I feel so powerful!

I'm so excited to see how we're doing after a couple months like this, and even more so in a few years!

#32

I'm so happy for you!!! I have successfully been clean for about two months. No weed tho but heavy narcotics. It was very hard for me but I realized I needed help and I turned to Father and things started falling in place and I got back into meditations and started Rituals. For once I truly was happy. So it makes me happy to see you Doin great!
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Mandy_moo923, that's great that you are on day
5 of not smoking! Good work, keep it
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26, 2017 1:39 AM, "[ email redacted ]
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We are on day 5 of not smoking, and it's been
amazing! Last night I remembered a good amount of my dreams.
First time in two years I could remember more than just one,
if any.

Just five days,
and I'm no longer thinking I'm going insane, I feel
so powerful!

I'm so
excited to see how we're doing after a couple months
like this, and even more so in a few years!





















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#33

As someone who just moved from humboldt county (the holy grail of weed next to amsterdam) i can tell you from my personal experience that weed can help but it solely depends on the person. People think they get addicted to it but its really just an excuse for being weak. Most of the replies that ive read about weed being really bad are half true or not true at all but spiritually i dont know because im not well versed on that. Ive smoked weed mostly to calm anxiety but i realized that its not really the plant itself but most of the people who use it are toxic and messed up in a lot of ways. Like how alcohol can be used in social gatherings for fun but some people drink and beat their spouse- not the same thing. I moved away and quit cold turkey and i dont really miss it. Being sober has made me more sensitive again to things and i believed smoking did something to suppress that its like (sorry for the rpg terms but its the only way i can convey this in terms i can understand and relate to ) i had less mana. Like i could deplete my mana regen and max mana by smoking and i felt like a normal person, not that "crazy"girl that feels things and sees things that cant easily be explained. Quitting weed even though its made me more sensitive, and in my mind vulnerable, has been a great decision. I was able to quit and not feel bad or want it at all. Keep on not smoking and im sure you will find what your looking for and you will feel much better. I know i do except for the feeling more vulnerable part. No matter the opinion for or against weed, i think the desire to become better is within all of us and thats what counts.

#34

@mandy. Ref not smoking
Congratulations!!! Much more will be opening up now. 
Keep up the good work.
Hail SatanHail Lilith
Dehna

Just five days, and I'm no longer thinking I'm going insane, I feel so powerful!

I'm so excited to see how we're doing after a couple months like this, and even more so in a few years!

#35

Hello.
Stop doing excuses on this bad habit. Take it very seriuos and yes you will feel like shit and get anxiety.. Your are removing yourself from shit drug and etc. No no drugs, no dabs, no eating pot stuff wont be better.. stop thinking about health benefits were only health benefit is in your mind.. you think there is some better or more healthy stuff but acually it fucking same man.. Stop being weak and get your life in your hands. 
-Hail Satan!-Hail Marchosias!-Hail Lilith!
-Zevism Todyy666

I had an intense anxiety attack last night and we broke after just a week.

I'm disappointed. The stupid thing about this though, my s.o. asked me how I wanted my eggs cooked, and after a few minutes of question I freaked out really bad. Like I threw an egg on the ground and he got stressed out, so he went to go meditate, and once our roommate got home social anxieties kicked in and I started freaking out more. I took my dog, Kiba, for a run (This was at like 11 at night) and after being gone for what felt like an hour I returned home to just continue freaking out. Any time my s.o. tries to touch me in this state I start like flailing and screaming. So after all this I smoked a Cigarette, First time in over a year, then came in and had my roommate give me a dab. I tried to fight it, but hardly.

This isn't the first time I've had really intense anxiety attacks over really stupid things. I had one that last for 8 hours because one of our dogs peed in the neighbors yard. It didn't stop until I smoked, and I really don't know how to handle this ahahah.... I use to self harm and I've got quite a few scars, and smoking has helped me calm down from doing this. I haven't self harmed in 4 years and I know I'll stay strong in this aspect, but my week of sobriety was honestly full of freak out and low points. I'm a little scared of what I'm going to do, but I know I'm going to keep going forward.

Are Cbd's any better since they aren't psychoactive?

#36

Cbd's are the exact same, they just have different concentrations ov turpines. So no, they aren't any better. They're still psychoactive, just very dulled.

And I had the same problem when I quit smoking. It's caused by your brain trying to restock its natural supply ov chemicals. When you get high, your brain dumps large amounts ov otherwise rationed chemicals, and this imbalance causes intense anxiety, nightmares, and other such things. The only reason it doesn't happen while you're smoking is because you introduce a placebo to your body, so it doesn't realize it's low until you're sober and depleted.

Long story short, those are withdrawals. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN have withdrawals from pot, and most people do in some form. But you're an Zevism; you're inherently strong in mind and spirit, and I believe in you to push through. Not to make light ov your mental status; I certainly do understand what you're going through. But I also know without a tendril ov a shadow ov a doubt that you can overcome this, because you are infinitely stronger than the limitations you place on yourself.

Be strong!

Hail Satan!

#37

You have got to quit smoking right now. You have to realize that this drug will destroy you if you do not quit it now.

Like any drug, it manipulates the natural states of the mind to that of distortion, and pollutes the Soul.
I'd also like to take this time to inform you that the enemy is partially responsible for the things you are going through.

While there are the issues present, the enemy is making it worse. The enemy wants this drug to destroy you. I can personally advise you to practice more void meditation which will help you to get the issues under control to some extent.  Now, this will take some time to get under control so don't expect this to happen over night. I also, recommend you start doing the Visraga chant which will greatly increase how well your void meditation goes over a period of time.Try starting off doing it 5-10 times a day daily.

Is it pronouned as VEEEEESSSAAAAAHHHHGGGGGGGAAAAAHHHH. You don't have to vibrate it for that long though, that is just my personal preference. The G is pronounced in a hard fashion.

You obviously want this to go away and have a better life so I am taking the time to do this for you.

I have one final piece of advise for you. It is, to do a Munka working. This will annihilate the addiction entirely. Make sure to NOT start any working/meditation on a void of course moon as this will cancel the working out entirely, and you will have wasted your time entirely. It is ONLY for the first day though. After that you will be fine if there is another void.

Here is a website to help you track what the moon is doing in your area if you give it your accurate location.
www.lunarium.co.uk

A Munka is began during a waning moon. The website also tells you about those phases.

If it is truly your desire, then you will fight this and win.

#38

I want to thank everyone for their help in this matter. Our bodies defiantly have a dependency on this drug but we'll break it.

descipleofthegods13:

I'm going to start that chant asap. The sooner we kick this the better.

To further explain our situation, My s.o. believed Marijuana was a great thing, he wanted to smoked every day for the rest of his life, he wanted to own a dispo and grow. Marijuana helped him find a reason to live. Even now he still doesn't think it's that bad, so he's been having a hard time adjusting to this new way of life. Hopefully the Munka working can help with this.

Like I've said before regardless of what happens we'll keep going forward.

Hail Satan

#39

I also forgot to mention that you should do the Visarga chant seperately from void meditation.

#40

I wanted to second that whole strong mind and spirit thing that we all have. I don't know of another person that can quit cigarettes as quick as me. I literally smoked 4-5 a day, like any average person really- and even more when I was drinking heavy too. I dropped all of that cold turkey because one day I said to myself, fuck this. It's not worth it. I quit the cigarettes because I got pregnant ( I miscarried shortly after, due to unfortunate events) But it literally didn't have to wean myself off of anything. I stepped up and just said nah, time to be responsible.

I believe in all of you, trying to better yourselves. You can do it. And now I look back on it- I no longer have a desire to really smoke anymore or drink. Some beer is tasty but it's not a regular thing for me. I believe spoiling yourself with this sort of thing...making your body happy with quick fixes like junk food, beer, getting high is really damaging like you all have said. It makes you dependant on something.

Cbd's are the exact same, they just have different concentrations ov turpines. So no, they aren't any better. They're still psychoactive, just very dulled.

And I had the same problem when I quit smoking. It's caused by your brain trying to restock its natural supply ov chemicals. When you get high, your brain dumps large amounts ov otherwise rationed chemicals, and this imbalance causes intense anxiety, nightmares, and other such things. The only reason it doesn't happen while you're smoking is because you introduce a placebo to your body, so it doesn't realize it's low until you're sober and depleted.

Long story short, those are withdrawals. Contrary to popular belief, you CAN have withdrawals from pot, and most people do in some form. But you're an Zevism; you're inherently strong in mind and spirit, and I believe in you to push through. Not to make light ov your mental status; I certainly do understand what you're going through. But I also know without a tendril ov a shadow ov a doubt that you can overcome this, because you are infinitely stronger than the limitations you place on yourself.

Be strong!

Hail Satan!

#41

Satan said, *Let nothing stop you. Not even yourself.* 
HS88

descipleofthegods13:

I'm going to start that chant asap. The sooner we kick this the better.

To further explain our situation, My s.o. believed Marijuana was a great thing, he wanted to smoked every day for the rest of his life, he wanted to own a dispo and grow. Marijuana helped him find a reason to live. Even now he still doesn't think it's that bad, so he's been having a hard time adjusting to this new way of life. Hopefully the Munka working can help with this.

Like I've said before regardless of what happens we'll keep going forward.

Hail Satan