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Keeping Promises To The Gods

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos7 min to read

In another topic a long time ago, I have described about taking Oaths and under which circumstances Oaths should better take place; especially in circumstances where they must be done. In our society, we have these kinds of oaths and promises.

A promise in general relies mostly on your own personality, than an oath which is based on being sworn on something external. Of course, human beings take both lightly, thinking that neither matter in the present day and era. The reality however is that Oaths given in front of the Gods, from an astral standpoint, and from an immaterial standpoint, are literally you standing in from of the Deity and making a declaration.

This message here however will explain more about your promises to the Gods. A promise looks more like "Please do X for me, and I will do X for you, Father Satan, but help me on this topic", or simply when you are in deep prayer and you request their help, and it arrives. Oftentimes, one might not offer a thing, yet at other times, one might say something that they want to do in order to help things the Gods love, or for the JoS, or the common good.

Certain of us and especially as we advance, when we really start to comprehend the Gods, we understand that giving back or upholding promises is actually a very normal and very healthy way to exist, as it creates positive relationships based on progress and trust. These also progress us as individuals. We know this is how this beautiful path works.

And actually, we very much enjoy the opportunity to try to uphold these manners, as they give meaning to life and everyone here who does that and has felt the positive feedback from the Gods, they can understand how beautiful and irreplaceable this unimaginable reward really is. Yet, to understand this, it can take some time.

Further, there is also the situation where the Gods can literally watch over you, help you, or literally even save your life. You will KNOW it was something that intervened if this happens, especially in the face of impossible odds. In that case, one must have the reason to give back for what they have been given. I know I have been MANY times in this category. Yet that is another topic, it was important to mention that.

Many people in our family keep telling me, especially in dire cases, that they request help from the Gods, oftentimes telling them they will do certain things in exchange of that help. The Gods tend to always help people [they do their own end] and then it's up to the human being to do something in return.

Due to the weak memory of human beings and many rationalizing mechanisms, people don't really understand that these promises are as real as anything else and that they must be upheld. It also shows a good quality of a human being to follow with these promises, and these in the eyes of the Gods does build a relation of trust, which over time, is the basis of proceeding in building a soul the Gods want to work with, guide and help more readily.

The above is nothing new in existence as the very same reality of promises given. If you follow up, it's for your own good and to the good of your relationship to the Gods. If you don't follow up, you aren't building this trust. Further, the Gods don't "need" things from us, but they "need" from us to become good and properly grown human beings, which start representing better qualities in ourselves.

Years ago there was on Zevism girl that used to mail me, and used to tell me she wanted to get on an Ivy League university. The chances of this happening were extremely low, but the opportunity presented itself and then they did a Ritual to a God telling them they will do certain things in exchange to get into the Ivy League in the face of rather impossible circumstances. Eventually through a series of "weird" events, this happened, and they made it in.

They explicitly told me, boastfully too, what they "would do" if this was done back then, yet this didn't really sound like much but excitement at the time. More like a despairing call if anything.

Regardless, they knew the almost impossible event needed the hand of another being to happen, and it did happen. Yet when this happened arrogance and the feeling that "they did it" or that it happened "coincidentally" kicked in. Long story short that's a cover for laziness, ungreatfulness, and being foolish in life. Both of which are parallel to Satanism's only sin, which is stupidity.

Next thing that happened was that this person who was lukewarm and faithless to begin with, started to arrogantly believe that this was "them", or tried to say that it would happen "anyway" and other nonsense, which people know in themselves are lies but might insist on saying this in the attempt to not do something for those who do something for them.

I kept asking back then if they ever planned to do anything they said they would do, you know, just because for a token of appreciation. Normal things. I was always confronted with another excuse ranging from the weather to anything under the sun.

Eventually they did nothing. If I recall they then also left Satanism, to move forward in the life they considered that they "themselves" created.

If you expect that I write about some sort of punishment about the above from the Gods you are wrong. Our Gods in general only punish where it fits. They don't punish stupidity.

The above is utter stupidity, because in itself, this behavior is what causes issues of trust between one's self and the Gods, let alone does bad to one's future in general. This bad in itself is enough, and punishment is not the point I am trying to make here.

For example, if one had forward thinking, they would understand, that as they needed the Demonic Assistance in that circumstance now, they might need them again in the future.

Needless to say it should be obvious as to how the Gods might keep a person in the lower ranks of a hierarchy of care when they constantly behave in this manner. While the Gods can certainly grant help and miracles, the situation is, the most important level to be in, is on a level where you are loved and trusted by them. That's more important than any favor.

The analogy here is that one might be pleading for help from a billionaire, and then at one point they might get a loan. The loan will solve problems. But that doesn't mean you have built to where you are a head of bankers and have a masterful knowledge of wealth or anything like that.

Clearly, one of the way to proceed in the ranks higher is to actually pay a debt or a few, to gain understanding and then a pathway to a better position by getting positive attention to rise higher.

When you ask things from the Gods and you get them, and you know you must give something back, it's better that you should. As you advance there will be times you get certain things in this path without even really 'asking' for anything. Further, you will understand that certain things you might have asked also could have been bad or simply unfitting [this awareness will come as you seriously evolve] and you will find that the Gods have directed you to a higher understanding than what you have done.

All of the above matters, and the situation is to uphold promises one makes, so that one rises higher in the eyes of the Gods as much as one can.

By keeping our promises we only have very positive things to expect, we foster our relationship to the Gods, and we become higher in how we also see ourselves. That gratification is irreplaceable and builds a powerful self, upon which the Gods can build a better human being out of us all.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#21

Hello, thank you for this topic. I had a similar experience asking Satan and the gods. In the past months, I had a strong addiction to smoking, so that my daily consumption of cigarettes increased drastically, and I knew that this was harmful to my body and soul, but quitting it after a long time was a difficult task for me. One day when I was smoking in the yard of my house, I suddenly had an idea to ask Satan and Gods for help to quit smoking and lead a daily life without smoking. In my heart, I called the devil and the gods to help me, and in return I also do something for them and the progress of my soul. A few weeks later, I became so sick that I could not get out of bed! After a few days when I felt better, I wanted to smoke a cigarette even though I had no desire to do so. I lit the cigarette and wanted to smoke, but at the same moment I regretted it and threw the cigarette pack away. It's been a few months now that I quit smoking completely and suddenly, and I think I'll never smoke again. There has been a conflict in my personal life for some time that I could not fully fulfill my promise to the Satan and the gods. But I will come back and I keep my word. I had other experiences with the help of the Satan and the Gods who saved my life and guided me, and I am very grateful to the Satan and the Gods for this great love in my life.
HAIL ZEUS :)
(and I'm Sorry for my bad English)

#22
Amir_Sssaid:

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Congratulations on quitting, brother, it is a wise decision. However, as a person who also quit, I will give you a warning. Sometimes, weeks or even months after you quit, you can get a sudden feeling of wanting to smoke just one. This may be because you will experience something you associate with smoking, for example, you will go to a café you used to smoke in, you will want to smoke while driving because you smoke while you drove a car, or perhaps you will hear a song you used to smoke to. Be very careful not to give in to it, because when you light just one, you can easily fall back into the cycle if you were heavily addicted. Good luck!

#23

Can you explain more about promises?
Examples of promises ..
And thank you very much

HAIL ZEUS forever

#24

I have always prayed to the Gods to show me the path and the way to get what I want. Teaching me how to do it is the important thing, not that the Gods do it for me. Besides, if you don't stand on your own two feet, you'll never grow up! The Gods want us to be independent and strong and they are proud when we do things in our own strength.

Ζεῦ Κρόνιε! Σκηπτοῦχε! Καταιβάτα! Ομβριμόθυμε, παντογένεθλε, ἀρχὴ πάντων πάντων τε τελευτή, σεισίχθων, αὐξητά, καθάρσιε, παντοτινάκτα, ἀστραπαῖε, βρονταῖε, κεραύνιε, φυτάλιε Ζεῦ!

#25

I remembered this book about an individual who inquired a master alchemist when he discovered this alchemical manuscript hidden in a book at a library he worked at. They both begin experimenting with it until they make a breakthrough discovery, they both make a vow of sworn secrecy.

A year later, the two meet again for dinner to talk about what they had witnessed. The man announces his conviction that he could not longer keep what he saw a secret, that he was doing his own experiments but to no avail. Believing that if he could have done it once, that he could do it again, unaware of the more complicated processes under the hand of the master alchemist. The master alchemist reminded him that he was dealing with powers that would "never forgive a broken vow", that while the knowledge may yield profitability, as he had suspected of the man prior, he could be responsible for cataclysms that can destroy the entire planet.

It was something about the experiment being useless in itself, but about pointing to a certain manipulation of matter that could be exploited under selfish eyes with unpredictable results. That it was only meant for temple knowledge and not for the unenlightened mass. There was also something implied about the "inner workings".

The master alchemist noticed days after their meeting, when the man announced his conviction, that his body was deteriorating, to the point he was complaining about circulatory problems. The man writes to the alchemists his plans for a scheduled meeting with a group of people, in which he was going to reveal everything. He comes to his apartment, to find the man almost a withering corpse, they notion a pile of papers, the one which he had stolen, that it now belonged to the alchemist and for no one else. They were dead the next morning.

I don't think we'll ever get to see the day when the full instructions of the magnum opus will be made public. :D

Anyway, we should respect our vows and honor them. The path of Satanism is not only upon building ourselves, but our relationships to the gods as well. Our dedication, commitment and worthiness will be taken account. The more serious the vows, the more serious the consequences of breaking them. At some point, there may not even be a chance for amends.

But there was one thing I read from someone who looked at his demise philosophically, that as soon they had convicted to break the vow of secrecy, that his own body was starting to work against him. Which got me thinking that it could perhaps pertain to the kundalini itself?

Vows are also deeply tied to our conciousness, to take them for granted is to also take ourselves for granted as well. It will never end well in the long run.

If you are aren’t willing to sacrifice for your goals, then the goals become the sacrifice.

#26

I saw Father Satan , once again , wow but this time it was more real and I literally even saw him this time.

First time it did it when I was 7 and I had gave up upon hope and life, beside I had the enemies on my ass as well, I couldn't literally bare it anymore, the fear, the loneliness , I was helpless and without anything to fight the enemies.

Okay back to the present.
In my past years as a spiritual Satanist , I've done the ritual when I was I think 14 about that. But I always had been what I am , I just didn't knew more about this until Father Satan first showed up. But literally even when I heard his name for the first time, and that's when I was very young, when I've heard it , people were talking bad about him and they were saying his name in the wrong way like they always done but myself, when I first heard it I had a different feeling , I felt a nostalgia , a peace , harmony.

So back to it:
In my past years 6 or it could be a bit more I had just quit , but I did not quit what I am or or leave Father Satan and the Gods I've just wondered alone , doing meaningless things in existence. I even ask HP Pythia about my first experience and She did confirmed it was Him who showed to me first time.

Because I haven't done anything , I think I even asked the Gods to leave me a bit alone , meaning I wanted to take and bare everything in life by myself, to see how it would be without any help without anyone , I don't know why I've asked that but even so, I was upset and devastated even now. I am still, and sometimes I have moments where I literally thing I'm gonna lose it , no prison is more prison then the one where your own mind becomes your literally prison.

Because of my circumstances in life I just couldn't meditate , I had no home to live in and even with a place to live in I had no intimacy's, when I was indeed seriously and constantly meditating I could and I HAVE done things that are let's just say hard to explain with words.

Father Satan and the Gods has been nothing more then the most amazing ,benevolent , indulgent and many more things for me. In moments of despair I admit , I had been helped. In moments when I settle deals , they did respected theirs 100%.

The problem in the present moment is that I never left them and I will never leave especially with my own heart. Father Satan beside the fact he created me, he saved me in this life and listen, bein real and honest it was more then once.

The thing with me Is that I had a long fall which I'm still trying to deal with, I eventually started to get a lot of anti depressive pills and everything in regard to help me with my own mind, basically to fool myself. Using shortcuts to a very deep wound which will only help for the moment with vast damages. But I could not respect my words, I did said I will do what I promised when I will can and this "when I willl can" it become years now . Beside that I promised that I will never use X lets say alchool in this case and if I will ever will do use it again ,I asked Father Satan to banish me from the brotherhood and exclude me entirely as I , did been nothing more then a lier.

The thing is It wasn't a lie ,I just lost the hope and desire to just go on and progress , I was saying to myself even If I become lets say FOREVER , so what? A Forever of extra despair ? This is more because of my Pluto conjuncting my natal Netpune and other stuff which I'm not getting into this but I was a bit lets say in "my world" but I was awake so this happened on the psychically plane of life, while beein aware and concious , not sleeping.

I had two candles in my back , perfumed ones, they smell nice. They were behind me and I was sitting on the chair and next to my monitor I had a bag of crisp open, the light reflected in this bag and some lines and 'things' started to form a something , then it was a face which was like a drawed face, it looked like He just come from a War or something , a face of a warrior , then his one of his eye showed up and then both but the moment his Eye first showed up which was only the eye , the moment I looked in his Eye I literally felt like a connection ,instantly and then I showed his whole face , it was Father Satan. My first reaction was : Wow... I was speechless I just sited in my chair with my eyes closed but nothing else happened.

I think he was just saying Hello and the fact he is still with me. I didn't felt him being angry or upset on me because I couldn't had yet respect my deals and he didn't seem upset that I broke my oath's . I think Father Satan it's just.. inexplicable in any language on this earth. I started to feel more stable and my hope is getting back to me , it's like life itself started once again pouring trough my veins.

I just wanted to share all of this for people who are in the similar situations and they are looking for answers in this kind of matters. The moment Father Satan showed up to me it was when I was looking on this forum , after a while , because I haven't visited as much as before since I haven't meditated.

Father Satan and our Gods have such ways of working it's unbelievable but in the same time you truly know it's actually true , real and happening until it actually happens.

They helped me so many times ,I have so many memories It will take me a lot of time to say them all and many could not even believe and comprehend that our Gods are Real and more powerful then any human being can even imagine , no matter how "strong" this person might think it is.

I am blessed and proud to be alive and share same blood and soul trough them ,with them, to be part of the family.
I am just truly sorry I upset them so much with my fallings and my silly mistakes in life and that's like a deep venom poison which goes trough my soul/mind.

What do you guys think ? What would you advise?

#27

:mrgreen:
Bruce Lee is Your Master

#28
Mammonsaid:

:mrgreen:
Bruce Lee is Your Master

What

#29
This is the targeted message.

This post is a kind of mental pabulum, I like it.