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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Rezaal" <rezaal6@... wrote:
Ahhh
all the burning sexuality questions
all in one place.
Welcome to that truly wonderful age of discovery.
It is a gift from Satan, so be sure you enjoy it while it is with you.
You are not expected to understand it yet, that's what the discovery part is all about.
For that reason, it is also not something about which you should be worried. We've all been there, and we all discover what fits our needs if we take the effort to honestly and openly seek.
I'm a 45 year old gay male who has stood exactly where you are now, asking most if not all of the same questions, as have many of us at the same age. What I've observed and learned since then won't supply all the answers you need, but it might give some helpful hints.
I'll try and deal with your direct questions first. After that I'll probably ramble on a bit.
- What does it mean to be homosexual or bisexual?
These are black and white terms that are used by judeo-xtian society to classify the sexual preference of parts of humanity. They are broad and simplistic labels which are applied to parts of the spectrum of sexual preference.
I actually don't believe that you can define human sexuality with labels. We're are all unique in the way that Satan created us. But sometimes reference points need to be used to explain a spectral concept, so I'll make an exception.
In the male sense, the spectrum would run from extreme end to extreme end (loosely) as follows. Guys who:
1)Have never even thought about hetero sex, and who actively have gay sex
2)Have thought about hetero sex, but still have gay sex
3)Have tried hetero sex, but have determined that gay sex is what they want
4)Occasionally have hetero sex , but usually have gay sex
5)Don't mind who they have sex with, male or female gets the same result for them
6)Occasionally have gay sex , but usually have hetero sex
7)Have tried gay sex, but have determined that hetero sex is what they prefer
8)Have thought about gay sex, but still have hetero sex
9)Have never even thought about gay sex, and who actively have hetero sex
10)Think about gay, bi, and hetero sex, but have not yet tried any form of sex.
11)Never think about or have sex with anyone or anything.
There are probably additional graduations within the above scale which other members of the group may wish to contribute, but this list will do for now.
The labels have traditionally been used:
Gay: 1) to 3)
BiSexual: 4) to 6)
Hetero: 7) to 9)
Adolescent: 10)
Weird xtian monk-type-dudes studying to become serial killers and child molesters: 11)
So, with the exception of 11) there is nothing wrong with being at any of these points on the spectrum. Personally, I don't think that anybody really fits into category 9). Ever heard of what happens in prisons full of butch "straight" guys?
Deciding where you want to be in terms of 1) to 9) can be made difficult if you let factors like judeo-xtian programming, peer pressure, or family influences have sway over your thinking.
YOU are exploring YOUR sexuality. It is no-one else's business.
Speaking from my own experience I would say that if you must define your sexuality in terms of the above reference points then it is best done so by looking at what attracts you.
From what you say in your posting I think you can answer that question yourself & I certainly would not presume to do so for you. If you are still in doubt, meditate on the issue and seek Satan's guidance.
- Are people born this way (gay) or did they just program their mind to think that way?
Nature vs Nurture.
Again, an age old debate which has never been definitely settled.
So from personal experience and observation I can say that:
a)yes, some people are born gay, and will never function as anything else but gay, and
b)some people are born with a pre-disposition to being gay, and through some external influence or other personal choice, they either;
i. suppress or hide their homosexual feelings and function as "straight", or
ii. embrace their gay feelings and live a life in tune with their attractions, and emotions.
You would probably find that the guys who fall into:
- a) above would be those described by 1) further above, and
- b) i. describes 8), and
- b) ii. describes 2) to 7).
I'm sure other members of the group may have a wider range of views on this.
I personally know people who fit into a) and b)i. & b)ii.
The happiest of them are a) and b)ii.
The unhappiest, and physically and emotionally unhealthiest of them are in the b)i. group.
I regard myself as b)i.. and probably at the 2) end of the scale.
- Effeminate guys:
While empirically its seems to be that more guys who are strongly effeminate are gay than straight, I know of:
- hard-core butch guys who are gay, and
- extremely effeminate guys who are straight.
I am often greeted with surprise when people find that I am gay, because I'm "so blokey" as we Aussies say (straight-acting / non-effeminate). There was a time when, like you, I felt uncomfortable with effeminate guys. Over the years though I've come to know a few guys who aren't as "masculine" as the rest of "us blokes" and I've always found under the effeminate exteriors are warm, sensitive and wonderful people who are fun to be around, and whose friendship I have come to treasure
.. even if they can be a bit high maintenance at times
..
The degree to which anyone (gay, bi or straight) is also effeminate is just another layer which is overlaid on the spectrum of 1) to 11) above. While there might be a bias of effeminism towards the 1) end of the spectrum, I'm pretty sure it's not a exact correlation.
The degree of effeminism sometimes becomes "exaggerated":
-simply by the need to express one's sexuality
-for the fun of it
-by chemical imbalance within the body, or
-as a defence against hostility.
So
the bottom line from me: follow your instincts.
If you feel attracted to either gender, then explore that attraction.
There is nothing wrong with that so long as you do no harm to either yourself or your prospective partner(s).
You can't discover if you don't explore.
You can't explore from within the confines of the opinions and beliefs of your family and friends, nor from your couch, pew, TV, or PC monitor.
Satan has provided you with a world to be experienced as part of your journey to Godhead. Don't waste it.
Ave Satanas
Rezaal
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I need somones advice
Posted by: "damnplanetsaturn" damnplanetsaturn@... damnplanetsaturn
Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:12 pm (PDT)
I'm not sure of my sexuality yet. I'm a 19 year old male. I have felt attracted to boys since I was very younge. I was too girls first however. Today I try to think of a women and rarely feel atracted. I think of a boy and I get pretty amazing results.
But what does it mean to be homosexual or bisexual? I mean are people born this way or did they just program thier mind too think that way? A god could make themselves any way they want correct? I don't know I just don't understand it. I'm a little worried about it all I guess.
The one thing I cant stand is limp wristed little babys. No offense intended. Even a women can become a warrior. I mean if men were that way nothing could get done. I see nothing wronge with feminine people. However what the hell is up with this other stuff?
Again I'm not meaning to offend anyone. I just need this explained too me. Why people are gay? Am I gay? Why the over exagerated feminism? If anyone can explain these I would most appreciate it.
Hail Satan!!
