Hello all, new person here

[otjutrjumov]

Greetings. I've been reading your main site, joyofsatan.org, and while what I've read thus far sounds very appealing to me I cannot help but question most of it. Namely my chief concern here is that there are absolutely no citations and references. Whenever I find an interesting mention of some demon or deity I have nothing further to work with but what the site itself provides. The information is often very scant - some of these deities have fairly interesting backgrounds but the site provides no means to research it further, leaving it up to the reader to do all the work if they want to know more. This may not exactly be a bad thing but it does make me question the credibility of the articles. As my High School English teacher used to remark in our essays 'How do you know?'.

Another thing that bothered me was the demonisation of angelic beings. Let me be clear here, I dislike all Abrahamic religions. I also understand that when you use the word 'demon' what you are referring to are the spirits worshiped by our pagan ancestors rather than the evil spirits of the New Testament, and I can understand that, despite the fact that Christianity has perverted the original word to mean something 'evil'. However, how can angels be 'bad guys'? That part I don't get. It's like you're deliberately trying to set people up against Christianity. Are we talking about malicious spirits that manifest themselves as angels because they fancy the idea of Abrahamic religions and thus perpetrate their existence among mankind? Or is it all a matter of perception and the words we've agreed to use? What if I wanted to see demons as angels and angels as demons?

 

[Light Yagami]

I must ask: are you a bit of an idiot?I won't bother writing too much. Angels ARE the bad guys. Christians are praying to the bad guys; hence why the world has gone to shit. This is what we're trying to fix. Demons are not some 'spirits that the ancients worshipped'. They are our GODS; Satan created Humanity.Study www.exposingchristianity.com along with www.joyofSatan.com

Στις 4:59 μ.μ. Δευτέρα, 29 Σεπτεμβρίου 2014, ο/η "otjutrjumov@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] έγραψε:


  Greetings. I've been reading your main site, joyofsatan.org, and while what I've read thus far sounds very appealing to me I cannot help but question most of it. Namely my chief concern here is that there are absolutely no citations and references. Whenever I find an interesting mention of some demon or deity I have nothing further to work with but what the site itself provides. The information is often very scant - some of these deities have fairly interesting backgrounds but the site provides no means to research it further, leaving it up to the reader to do all the work if they want to know more. This may not exactly be a bad thing but it does make me question the credibility of the articles. As my High School English teacher used to remark in our essays 'How do you know?'.

Another thing that bothered me was the demonisation of angelic beings. Let me be clear here, I dislike all Abrahamic religions. I also understand that when you use the word 'demon' what you are referring to are the spirits worshiped by our pagan ancestors rather than the evil spirits of the New Testament, and I can understand that, despite the fact that Christianity has perverted the original word to mean something 'evil'. However, how can angels be 'bad guys'? That part I don't get. It's like you're deliberately trying to set people up against Christianity. Are we talking about malicious spirits that manifest themselves as angels because they fancy the idea of Abrahamic religions and thus perpetrate their existence among mankind? Or is it all a matter of perception and the words we've agreed to use? What if I wanted to see demons as angels and angels as demons?

 

[otjutrjumov]

Chances are I come from a vastly different background compared to yours so what may seem obvious to you, especially concerning anything remotely spiritual, may not be so obvious to me. There is no need for ad hominem. I do not take what I read for granted.

 

[Light Yagami]

Well,as it's been said before, everyone should do their own research; especially if they're doubtful of what they read. Asking here is not doing your own research; you will just read the same things.


Στις 9:38 μ.μ. Παρασκευή, 3 Οκτωβρίου 2014, ο/η "otjutrjumov@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] έγραψε:


  Chances are I come from a vastly different background compared to yours so what may seem obvious to you, especially concerning anything remotely spiritual, may not be so obvious to me. There is no need for ad hominem. I do not take what I read for granted.

 

[babyb00m]

Look at the bottom of the articles on the Joy of Satan and Exposing Christianity websites. References are cited at the bottom. Some of the older pages do not have references. Newer writings, not yet posted to the Joy of Satan website, have references clearly shown at the bottom.


Newer articles containing information about Spiritual Satanism can be found here :http://josministries.prophpbb.com/forum4.html