George Bush

[Djinn Draconis]

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[f.follets]

His chart ruler, the Sun, which is already influential in its nature, is conjunct Sirius, a very powerful fixed star that brings honours and high positions in government. He was marked to be powerful.

I don't know how he was seen within his country, but for many of us who watched it from afar, he became famous for starting conflicts (MC in Aries) and spending absurd amounts of money funding them and investing in weaponry (Mars in the 2nd house of money and values). Interestingly, Mars is also conjunct the unfortunate fixed star Zosma that, along with Saturn (loosely) conjunct the Sun in the 12th house of self-undoing, contributed to his bad worldly image.

The Moon can indicate social standing and the way one deals with the public. In Libra, the Moon bestows charm and the talent to gain the favour of those around him. However, it is conjunct fixed star Algorab, which can bring deceptive, destructive, malevolent tendencies to the native. The Moon is conjunct Jupiter and he did come from a rich and influential family, but this also exaggerates all the themes represented by his Moon. His surely was a bad example of government - one not to be followed.

Venus in Leo in his second house rules the 4th house of family and origins and co-rules the 10th house. Uranus rules both the 7th house of relationships and the 8th house of inheritance, and is conjunct the North Node in the 11th house of friends and group associations. They both corroborate the lunar themes and we can say for sure that he was much helped and gained the favour of many while rising to power.

If I recall it well enough, he was satirised for supposedly being stupid, or at least "slow" in understanding. His 3rd house (mental assets) ruler Mercury conjunct the Ascendant and Pluto tell that in reality the opposite is true: he's probably very capable and cunning. Neptune also in the 3rd house creates the illusion that he's mentally underprivileged and brings forth, again, deceptiveness and the tendency to tell lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[HenryH]

I seen his chart before, but this time I can see things much more clearly and easily. His sun is not cojunct his Saturn. From the chart given in the link GB's sun is at 13 degrees Cancer and Satun is at 26 degrees Cancer, and it is unaspected in he 12th house. His speech problems more than likely come from a mixture of his Moon in the 3rd squaring his Sun, ad Mercury being at 9 degrees of Leo which is a weak placement for Mercury on a critical degree conjunct Pluto as well as that unaspected Saturn in the 12th giving some real sick and disturbing skeletons in the closet. Clealy a psychopath who wants to watch the whole world burn.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[Djinn Draconis]

Thanks for clearing that up. By the way how close do two planets have to be before they're considered conjunct?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

His chart ruler, the Sun, which is already influential in its nature, is conjunct Sirius, a very powerful fixed star that brings honours and high positions in government. He was marked to be powerful.

I don't know how he was seen within his country, but for many of us who watched it from afar, he became famous for starting conflicts (MC in Aries) and spending absurd amounts of money funding them and investing in weaponry (Mars in the 2nd house of money and values). Interestingly, Mars is also conjunct the unfortunate fixed star Zosma that, along with Saturn (loosely) conjunct the Sun in the 12th house of self-undoing, contributed to his bad worldly image.

The Moon can indicate social standing and the way one deals with the public. In Libra, the Moon bestows charm and the talent to gain the favour of those around him. However, it is conjunct fixed star Algorab, which can bring deceptive, destructive, malevolent tendencies to the native. The Moon is conjunct Jupiter and he did come from a rich and influential family, but this also exaggerates all the themes represented by his Moon. His surely was a bad example of government - one not to be followed.

Venus in Leo in his second house rules the 4th house of family and origins and co-rules the 10th house. Uranus rules both the 7th house of relationships and the 8th house of inheritance, and is conjunct the North Node in the 11th house of friends and group associations. They both corroborate the lunar themes and we can say for sure that he was much helped and gained the favour of many while rising to power.

If I recall it well enough, he was satirised for supposedly being stupid, or at least "slow" in understanding. His 3rd house (mental assets) ruler Mercury conjunct the Ascendant and Pluto tell that in reality the opposite is true: he's probably very capable and cunning. Neptune also in the 3rd house creates the illusion that he's mentally underprivileged and brings forth, again, deceptiveness and the tendency to tell lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[Djinn Draconis]

f.follets yours is by far a better explanation than what I gave I am still learning. Btw thank you for mentioning Sirius to me, this is the first I have heard of this star, I have looked it up and it sounds incredible. I will be meditating on the energy of this star tonight!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

His chart ruler, the Sun, which is already influential in its nature, is conjunct Sirius, a very powerful fixed star that brings honours and high positions in government. He was marked to be powerful.

I don't know how he was seen within his country, but for many of us who watched it from afar, he became famous for starting conflicts (MC in Aries) and spending absurd amounts of money funding them and investing in weaponry (Mars in the 2nd house of money and values). Interestingly, Mars is also conjunct the unfortunate fixed star Zosma that, along with Saturn (loosely) conjunct the Sun in the 12th house of self-undoing, contributed to his bad worldly image.

The Moon can indicate social standing and the way one deals with the public. In Libra, the Moon bestows charm and the talent to gain the favour of those around him. However, it is conjunct fixed star Algorab, which can bring deceptive, destructive, malevolent tendencies to the native. The Moon is conjunct Jupiter and he did come from a rich and influential family, but this also exaggerates all the themes represented by his Moon. His surely was a bad example of government - one not to be followed.

Venus in Leo in his second house rules the 4th house of family and origins and co-rules the 10th house. Uranus rules both the 7th house of relationships and the 8th house of inheritance, and is conjunct the North Node in the 11th house of friends and group associations. They both corroborate the lunar themes and we can say for sure that he was much helped and gained the favour of many while rising to power.

If I recall it well enough, he was satirised for supposedly being stupid, or at least "slow" in understanding. His 3rd house (mental assets) ruler Mercury conjunct the Ascendant and Pluto tell that in reality the opposite is true: he's probably very capable and cunning. Neptune also in the 3rd house creates the illusion that he's mentally underprivileged and brings forth, again, deceptiveness and the tendency to tell lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[Emily Watts]

Here, there are some who would gladly bow down and lick the dirt off his shoes. There are more that see him as an incompetant fool trying to live up to his father's name. Again, with his father, there are those that come awfully close to worshiping him, there are others who view him as a money grubbing war mongerer who couldn't finish what he started. Just thought I'd put in my two cents as we have non U.S. residing members and I happen to live in the U.S. Hail Satan!

On Nov 17, 2012 3:54 AM, "f.follets" <f.follets@... wrote:

  His chart ruler, the Sun, which is already influential in its nature, is conjunct Sirius, a very powerful fixed star that brings honours and high positions in government. He was marked to be powerful.

I don't know how he was seen within his country, but for many of us who watched it from afar, he became famous for starting conflicts (MC in Aries) and spending absurd amounts of money funding them and investing in weaponry (Mars in the 2nd house of money and values). Interestingly, Mars is also conjunct the unfortunate fixed star Zosma that, along with Saturn (loosely) conjunct the Sun in the 12th house of self-undoing, contributed to his bad worldly image.

The Moon can indicate social standing and the way one deals with the public. In Libra, the Moon bestows charm and the talent to gain the favour of those around him. However, it is conjunct fixed star Algorab, which can bring deceptive, destructive, malevolent tendencies to the native. The Moon is conjunct Jupiter and he did come from a rich and influential family, but this also exaggerates all the themes represented by his Moon. His surely was a bad example of government - one not to be followed.

Venus in Leo in his second house rules the 4th house of family and origins and co-rules the 10th house. Uranus rules both the 7th house of relationships and the 8th house of inheritance, and is conjunct the North Node in the 11th house of friends and group associations. They both corroborate the lunar themes and we can say for sure that he was much helped and gained the favour of many while rising to power.

If I recall it well enough, he was satirised for supposedly being stupid, or at least "slow" in understanding. His 3rd house (mental assets) ruler Mercury conjunct the Ascendant and Pluto tell that in reality the opposite is true: he's probably very capable and cunning. Neptune also in the 3rd house creates the illusion that he's mentally underprivileged and brings forth, again, deceptiveness and the tendency to tell lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.

 

[f.follets]

This is a bit controversial. Many astrologers use fixed orbs for each aspect (usually 10 degrees for the conjunctions and oppositions, 8 degrees for squares and trines, 4 degrees for sextiles and so on) but some of them use different orbs depending on the planets involved and the aspects themselves, making them much more flexible. For instance, aspects to the Sun and the Moon, since they are the Luminaries, have a wider orb. Conjunctions to the luminaries can have orbs of up to 14 degrees, and I personally find this accurate.

However, as the distance between planets increases, the aspects get weaker, meaning a "loose" conjunction (with an orb of more than 10 degrees) isn't nearly as influential in the person's life as it could be if the planets were closer. Some characteristics may or may not show up in the individual; the ones that do may not be so evident. It's really up to you to choose which orbs to use.

By the way, I just noticed a small mistake in my last message: Venus is in the first house, not the second. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@... wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up. By the way how close do two planets have to be before they're considered conjunct?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "f.follets" <f.follets@ wrote:

His chart ruler, the Sun, which is already influential in its nature, is conjunct Sirius, a very powerful fixed star that brings honours and high positions in government. He was marked to be powerful.

I don't know how he was seen within his country, but for many of us who watched it from afar, he became famous for starting conflicts (MC in Aries) and spending absurd amounts of money funding them and investing in weaponry (Mars in the 2nd house of money and values). Interestingly, Mars is also conjunct the unfortunate fixed star Zosma that, along with Saturn (loosely) conjunct the Sun in the 12th house of self-undoing, contributed to his bad worldly image.

The Moon can indicate social standing and the way one deals with the public. In Libra, the Moon bestows charm and the talent to gain the favour of those around him. However, it is conjunct fixed star Algorab, which can bring deceptive, destructive, malevolent tendencies to the native. The Moon is conjunct Jupiter and he did come from a rich and influential family, but this also exaggerates all the themes represented by his Moon. His surely was a bad example of government - one not to be followed.

Venus in Leo in his second house rules the 4th house of family and origins and co-rules the 10th house. Uranus rules both the 7th house of relationships and the 8th house of inheritance, and is conjunct the North Node in the 11th house of friends and group associations. They both corroborate the lunar themes and we can say for sure that he was much helped and gained the favour of many while rising to power.

If I recall it well enough, he was satirised for supposedly being stupid, or at least "slow" in understanding. His 3rd house (mental assets) ruler Mercury conjunct the Ascendant and Pluto tell that in reality the opposite is true: he's probably very capable and cunning. Neptune also in the 3rd house creates the illusion that he's mentally underprivileged and brings forth, again, deceptiveness and the tendency to tell lies.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Djinn Draconis" <xxrygelxx@ wrote:

Someone suggested looking at the charts of famous people a while ago and I thought this was a really good idea to understand astrology better. So I have been looking at the charts of wealthy and famous people and trying to understand the aspects in their charts.

Take a look at George Bush's chart. http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/George_W._Bush

George Bush got his position in an oil company through his parents. He later managed football teams and then got elected as Texas governor.

He has Venus (Venus rules money) as the ruler of his tenth house (Status, Career) Conjunct his ascendant with a lot of powerful aspects to it.

Also the ruler of his 8th house which is Neptune, interestingly enough Neptune rules oil! (8th house = inheritance, big business) is conjunct the moon (rules family) and conjunct Jupiter (Success, Expansion, Prosperity)

He was introduced into big business, in an oil company, by his family and owes his prosperity to it. It's easy to see how the 8th house, Neptune, Moon and Jupiter are all coming into play in this case.

However the ruler of his ascendant, (ascendant rules image) which is the Sun (Sun rules identity and social standing) Conjunct Saturn (Saturn = Hardship)
And so there are many people who also dislike George Bush, probably he will be considered the worst US president in history.

I'm sure nobody wants to hear lots of boring details about his personal life and actually I don't know a whole lot about him other than that he's rich which I'm sure interests a lot of us.

So have a look and tell us what you think of it.

Because this is a George Bush post, I won't end it with a "Hail Satan", would be inappropriate for an Xian and a Freemason who done so much for the Jews and Israel.