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Gain weight in a healthy way (help)

Black Gentile Matabele1 min to read

Help how do I gain weight or hv muscle, I wnt to hv a fit body, I hv been losing weight these past years, n I thought it was because of stress n depression. Any workout tht can help gain weight or body fitness (muscle)

#20
Stormbloodsaid:

I'll have to agree with Eric13 for once. I've noticed in me and my coworkers, which have a very active lifestyle and eat a lot, without even reaching the level of manteinance calories that focusing on caloric intake is most likely broscience. That's because we have gained muscles and lost fat at the same time. Eating healthy and getting enough protein is the key to it.

As for the quoted post, I'll replied below it.

SATchivessaid:

Dont forget to focus ligament strength first before building to much muscle and going to heavy.

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This is the ultimate workout. You can do this for the rest of your life.

I didn't make diet advice. carbs and protein are all food. You decide what you put in, I was focusing on the regiment and balance. not the diet. And alternating is needed. More protein one day more carbs the next is all I stated. What I said was not specific at all lol. I simply put muscle groups together for the dude and said mostly focus higher reps first for ligament strength. As I stated perfect technique. Technique = no injury. what I stated could benefit anyone it's very unspecific. He wanted to gain weight and muscle. This routine will do that safely. No amount of athletics and aerobics will build muscle faster than heavy weights. I didn't specify one certain workout look. only muscle groups. There are thousands of workouts within one can customize from free weights to dumbells to bars.

My routine creates balance. You go high reps to low reps. Creating the strength of a body builder with the body of a middle weight gymnast. This guide is bare bones extremely customizable involves balance. And safety first and can be applied to anyone who wants strength flexibility speed and size.

It is stated by Pythia the bigger you are the more bioelecticity you can handle. She stated this in an audio sermon when she talked about her going to the gym and the importance of lifting heavy, For bigger bones as well

Ligament strength is important. Muscle density is important food is important and switching things up keeping balance that is important all things I stated in this guide.

Your arguement about pull up is infallible because I am not recommending any workouts only on the amount of workouts a d what muscle groups to tie together because they.compound easy with certain workouts. One can choose to do machine all their life or free weights or lifting things in nature.

Technique what you eat and the weight vs reps and switching things up is the most important

On the whole pungent foods arguement again innever stated what to eat. Foods break down into two things carbs and proteins/fats. I said eat more of one one day and more the other the other day.

Everything else to you the individual is trial and error. A person on this guide after a year of eating and working out different things. Will come to understand their own body.

I didn't specifically say this because I thought it was obvious.

That's why I tell people to change the workouts ever week or every other week and change reps every 6 weeks. Eat plenty of balanced things. You will find what your body likes. I simply mentioned I like yams. Not for someone to add em to their routine.

Maybe I cleared this up. But this routine is a great fucking routine it's a warrior's a fighter's universal routine it will build healthy strong muscle and ligaments while increasing your bone density and making your endurance godly as long as you dont skip the endurance training and that endurance is up to you as well. I PERSONALLY like swimming. Fighting i.e mma, jumprope, and hiking as my endurance training. But every one is different you might like running. Who knows. Only you know.

I'll remake the guide some day. And I'll make sure it won't confuse anyone.

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#21
Eric13said:
Stormbloodsaid:

I forgot one thing. Training to failure, as far as I know, only increases the risk of injury and will only work to increase muscular endurance, not power nor strength. The advice of one my favourite specialists is to train short of failure. Training short of failure ensures you stop right before losing proper form. When you lose proper forms, you start involving muscles that have nothing to do with the exercise and also build structural imbalances. I used to do pushups (and not only) improperly and now my left pecs are more developed and stronger than the right ones. Paying attention to form helps identify imbalances earlier and correcting then.

(I hope my posts can help people make better choices for their lives and inspire them to deepen their researches and learn more. Never stop to what I write but always research more.)

Very true, training to failure can be useful if hypertrophy is your training goal. Otherwise it has its risks. Also I was reading a study that showed, for instance, to throw an arbitrary number out there, say a person did an exercise for 10 reps to failure. Reps 1-5 have little to no effect on facilitating change. However 6-8 had a dramatic effect. While the increase from say 8-failure was minimal. This tends to reveal those last two reps to failure might not do much anyway. Except make it harder to get more sets and increase likelihood of injury. A person can still push themselves and have intensity in their workouts without going to failure. A great example of this is the simple fact you can get more sets and reps.

Also on the point of sets and reps. I mentioned this in one of my replies, but I think it’s important cause so many people over train in the gym. But over training, as I’m sure you already know, is a real thing and is going to do the opposite of getting a person gains. 10-20 sets per muscle group per week shows the maximum amount of growth in numerous studies. With closer to 20 being the best. Past that gains stopped and injuries went up. Below 10 sets a week growth is very slow. Some gym nuts freaked out at these studies. Cause they want to be in the gym 5 hours a day. Unless you're roidin’ that ain’t gonna work.

I usually test myself on how many reps of any exercise I can do short of failure. I first decide which ones are going to be included in the programme and, after testing, I work with an adequate percentage of that, going by expert advice and by feel since I can't afford personal training by someone as qualified as Daniel Vadnal and other trusted experts.

When it comes to increasing volume in one set, I've had great results with both working with percentages ranging from 30 to 45 over three weeks, then retesting, and by following a programming that works by staying short of failure and retesting every fifth week.

I still haven't applied these methods to other forms of training that don't focus on increasing work capacity. The first method is consistent with your research, as it totals 20 sets per week for each exercise; the second method can vary from 9 sets to 15 per exercise per week, as the volume of each set is higher.

The fighter pull-up programme is the only programming I follow that works with more sets (30) per week and my body has demanded more rest, which I decided to concede from the second week of it onward.

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#22
This is the targeted message.

When I said train to failure i didn't mean total muscle destruction. I meant when you get to that last rep. Its difficult to lift that rep. (Obviously dont force it by using momentum. That's cheating) gauge your weight this way.

I think my word failure was taken too literal.

And its only dangerous when you lose control, and do not have prior ligament strength.

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#23
SATchivessaid:

I'll remake the guide some day. And I'll make sure it won't confuse anyone.

Yes, that's what you should do because you keep contradicting yourself in this whole post and you clear didn't understand my food example, which is related to the routine you suggested, not the tips about nutrients you gave.

You say from one side that you aren't giving something that is the same for everyone and you go into some detail to explain how it can be customise, yet you also say your template is the ultimate one and will benefit everyone.

What in-depth knowledge of human biomechanics, anatomy and exercise do you have again to make such unsupported claims? Look at how centralforce deals with people who ask for medical advice. He asks questions, trying to first have a clear picture of the person's health, then he gives advice.

About heavy weights... Firstly, HPS Pythia is a person like all of us. She has a lot of spiritual knowledge, awareness and experience, more than anyone here. That doesn't mean she knows everything about exercising too. She also made more recent sermons than the audio you listened too where she suggests bodyweight exercise, which means she doesn't believe exclusively in weightlifting.

Secondly, you clearly never researched about increasing and decreasing leverage, otherwise you'd know already that weightlifting is not the only way to hypertrophy.

You also preached going to failure. Going to failure by definition puts you out of proper form for the last few reps, which again is in contradiction with part of your speech (yoi stated proper technique = no injury). Overtraining is statistically one of the highest causes of injury. Just look it up. Training to failure = overtraining. I know exercise jargon. Every fitness enthusiast knows. You don't need to explain any of us that.

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#24
Stormbloodsaid:
SATchivessaid:

I'll remake the guide some day. And I'll make sure it won't confuse anyone.

Yes, that's what you should do because you keep contradicting yourself in this whole post and you clear didn't understand my food example, which is related to the routine you suggested, not the tips about nutrients you gave.

You say from one side that you aren't giving something that is the same for everyone and you go into some detail to explain how it can be customise, yet you also say your template is the ultimate one and will benefit everyone.

I already corrected what I said about failure. You can train to weight fatigue and not over work a muscle. Let's say you do 25 lbs 10 reps biceps at 10 you cannot go any more, so it's a good rep for you. One set won't cause over training. Nor would two sets depending on the person 3 or 4. Now you state like magically if you go to failure (when I say failure I mean you cannot as easily lift the last rep within your control)on a set oh noo I'm gonna hurt myself. You obviously have read a bunch but have little experience, again proper technique entitles you dont over do yourself. As that is in the meaning of technique. So no I didn't contradict myself. All your posts on the forums are you trying to outclass others by pointing out contradictions that dont exist.Pythia was right about her statements on weight training as I am living proof and hundreds of people I know are as well. But never stated all heavy weight either. Light weight is required for balance altogether as well. For ligament strength and muscle densification. And to say I preach. Lmfao I never preached nothing. Watch your words. Hypertrophy isn't enough for strength you must overcome high level weight plateaus. Sounds like you read a bunch of shit and tried to out it into your own perspective. Building muscle isn't as complicated or dangerous as you make it seem. I talked about Basic intake. And to switch between protein and carbohydrates. Very simple and this constitutes all food so you decide what you put in your body. You may need more vitamin x" rich foods than I or more other vitamin z"

What unsupported claims do I give hahah
None

It's a fact high rep works on ligament

Low rep high weight works on bone density and muscle mass.

What deluded world do you live in I suggest attacking the enemy then attacking me. It's quite fucking pathetic. Yeah a template that can be customized can be used by anyone
Wtf is your logic. You choose what meals just switch proteins more one day and carbs one day you do this to keep your metabolism is balance. Never want to eat the same thing all the time this is obvious. And yeah you can do body weight if you want too that's up to you. But it's not much different that weights lmfao except you are using you body as the weight. And you will get to a plateau where you will not gain any more strength than the body weight you can lift. Unless you use weights chained to your body while doing pullups lol sure. My point is simple lift light for high rep ligament strength and gradually move down to low rep heavy weight for strength.

I have little respect because all the posts I ever see from you are bashing other people and trying to find points to pick at, you over complicate and twist my words around quite annoying. I dont care if you dont believe me any one can take what I say with a grain of salt. But to me it's the ultimate. Do body weight of you want to increase endurance and build lean muscle mass. That's up to you. I add some body weight to my routine like I already stated switching things up is most important. I never stated only free weights only machines or only this or that. It was. Muscle groups. Eat plenty, rotate what you eat. Rest plenty. Correct technique. Repeat.
I dont mind being questioned but when I am told I said something I didn't or saying I'm contradicting myself when I'm not is crazy and it's not the first time I've seen you do this shit. It's annoying. And anti productive. I gave a bare bones guide to work on to gain muscle mass it works. And your trying to shit on it Insinuating what I say is bad and that your the to go guru for all things. Give me a break.

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#25

The statement about nutrition plans was not addressed to you. It was a general statement that goes hand in hand with suggesting fitness plans when you're not an expert.

You're showing you don't know basic fitness terminology. Going to failure you miss the proper form/technique it's inevitable, going short of failure means you go until the last rep BEFORE losing proper form/technique. Either you mean the second or you are confused. Nor where did you find about plateaus in bodyweight training. Must be from ignorant fitness enthusiasts and broscience. Experts and good researchers know there's more than one way to increase resistance: one is increasing weight, another is decreasing leverage. There might be others yet. I don't know.

When you saying something is "the ultimate" and yours is the best way, of course it comes off as preaching, propaganda and unsupported claims. That's just marketing and I hate marketing. Again, what works for you won't necessarily work for everyone else. Just as we each have a unique spiritual blueprint (the birth chart) which is different from anyone else), so everyone of us has a different genetic blueprint. But, hey, let's all lift heavy because someone said so. Sure it's going to work well.

Not sure where you got the part about you being attacked by the enemy. Maybe you dreamed of it.

Frankly, I don't care what your opinion of me is. I've grown past the need of being accepted by everyone years ago. Some people are going to respect me, other people are not. I don't demand it from anyone. This is not the place nor the time to discuss about my way of doing things, as it as nothing to do with our conversation.

Since you're stubborn and see yourself as infallible, we can stop the discussion right here. No need to add more to infighting. The picture to readers is clear, whether they are on your side, my side or neither side. What I meant to point out has already been addressed. Any more than this is pointless.

To the OP and the readers, the point was that you need someone with a background both in physical therapy and the discipline you want to use for you body conditioning.

Not to any self-proclaimed fitness guru and neither to the "trainers" you find nowadays in the gyms that have 6-months certifications and no real clue about what they're doing but keep destroying 100s of people's bodies, then you have every single physical therapist complaining all the time because of ill-advised routines that shorten what mustn't be shortened and create unnecessary damage here and there.

I'm NOT a physical therapist nor did I major in sports science or physical education. I just use my brain and recognise having an expert help you is how you truly progress toward your goal and spare much of the trial and error involved in figuring things out on your own. There was a sermon once talking about superiority and describing exactly what I said about going to someone superior to deal with something that is not your expertise. One example in the sermon was with a car mechanic. If anyone remembers the title, please go and share it.

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#26

Found the sermon thanks to comrade: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22664 This is my last post on this topic, if the goal remains fighting and not a normal discussion.

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#27
Stormbloodsaid:

Found the sermon thanks to comrade: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=22664 This is my last post on this topic, if the goal remains fighting and not a normal discussion.

No you didn't. That link just loops straight back to this same topic we're on now.

#28

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