Future for us & our kids - careers and jobs

[Dahaarkan]

Do you really think that doctors, engineers, teachers and many others are miserable?

Yes I do. Teachers and doctors are criminally underpaid, and many are facing financial struggles. Salaries do not match the constant rise in cost of living and it's why working a traditional job is less and less attractive.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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The slave mentality stems from the fabricated belief that people MUST work as hard as they do, or civilization collapses. That somehow the inhuman working hours that many are financially forced into is something to be accepted as an inescapable and inevitable part of life. And indeed, a majority of people accept and defend this belief.

There is such an overabundance of available and willing workers that you do not even need automation to fix the slavery issue. There are more than enough people willing to work that you can cut everyone's working hours by half. This solves unemployment and people have more free time and are happier.

This doesn't happen because then corporations and business owners have to pay 2 salaries, they would much rather pay 1 salary and have that person work inhuman hours. This should be illegal, but the system allows the exploitation of workers to the detriment of it's citizens.

 

[Henu the Great]

Excactly. I hope to see this injustice fixed as soon as possible and if at all possible I will have an influence on that on a later date.

 

[Sunny]

Do you really think that doctors, engineers, teachers and many others are miserable?

Yes I do. Teachers and doctors are criminally underpaid, and many are facing financial struggles. Salaries do not match the constant rise in cost of living and it's why working a traditional job is less and less attractive.

Confirmed. From the research I have done, in many countries there is a low standard of living due to corruption and low level of development. This is clearly a problem that needs to be solved. The fact is that even these jobs are necessary for society and are satisfactory, decent and respectable.

 

[Dahaarkan]

There is no virtue in poverty and suffering. How about society starts praising and giving benefits and wealth to the workers that actually create wealth in a nation, instead of social parasites like celebrities and overpaid sports players. Such people create nothing of value, bring no labor or wealth to their nation. And they make millions while workers that do create actual wealth and important services are ruining their health working in inhuman conditions and barely paid enough to survive.

I.. Agree!

As an extension of what I've said regarding working regular jobs and traditional labor, also do pay attention to where we are at technologically. The time is fast approaching when practically all of industry is automated. This is being held back and should have happened already.
I suspect many people who rely on jobs as their only income will likely struggle even more as this inevitable change approaches. Jobs are less profitable, harder to find and maintain, and this only gets worse with time.

What do you think is the solution to this, a UBI or something similar? I’m asking because I seriously don’t know.

Invest your time and money wisely, set your minds on creating assets, not finding jobs.

But not everyone can be the stock trader, or the genius investor and realtor, because if you are investing it can fall into the same category as the Athlete or actor that is extremely wealthy even though they haven’t created or done anything meaningful for society. I assume you think that this is different because your wealth hasn’t technically been generated by someone else working for you, but the same principle stated above applies.

Someone has to work the line being a chef/waiter, or ride on the side of a truck all day to pick up your garbage, or stock the warehouse, or deliver a tractor trailer full of food to a grocery store. This is just the way the hierarchy is. The WW2 regime model held the ditch digger in the same light as the successful businessman which I think IS your point. The people doing these “lesser” jobs I mentioned do deserve to be paid fairly, but the problem is how to we determine what that value is? A minimum wage is arbitrary and doesn’t help anything and labor theory of value is an outdated joke. This is another one of those things where I just have to say that I have no idea what the solution is.

Back to the jobs above, you can just wave your hand and say “automation” to all of this but that just isn’t how it works. Even if we feasibly could automate say the restaurant industry, would society even WANT a robot chef or waiter? Probably not. Part of the experience of going out to eat is being in the social setting.

Now you can say that it is unethical or whatever to keep these jobs just because people like it for the novelty even though it would be more “efficient” to automate them. Again these jobs wouldn’t be a bad thing if say the waitress got a proper wage instead of having to live off of the charity of others (tips).

But then we’re back to square one. Everyone agrees that these people are being a shafted and need to be payed a living wage, but who or what determines that wage? That’s about all.

I only saw this reply now, in terms of how society will adapt to large scale automation, I believe something like UBI is a solution, but there must be more to it than just sitting at home and getting a check for doing nothing.

This comes down to the state managing the contribution of it's citizens to the nation's growth. People won't have full time jobs but be required to perform tasks from time to time such as fixing roads or planning and setting up events and festivals for example. Things that typically the state would hire a private company to do would now be organized and done by local citizens receiving UBI.

People would directly be working for the growth of their nation and in return, their nation would take care of them through UBI system. This is one possible solution.

And of course, many jobs will still exist in the service sectors, but I think industry at large will be almost fully automated. A majority of wealth that a nation will produce would come from almost fully automated factories and such. The importance of UBI or a similar system is that people no longer become dependent on abusive employers. If people do not like a job, or feel that they aren't treated or paid fairly, they can simply quit that job, and the state will take care of them.

A job would become something that a person does because they enjoy doing it or simply wish to make more money on top of their UBI. Instead of being something they are forced to do otherwise they will starve.

Employers would be forced to have humane working hours and fair pay otherwise no one would work for them, as no one is forced to work horrible jobs just to get by. You will definitely still see many people working jobs, just no longer out of wretched necessity, but out of passion and ambition.


On the topic of investing, I personally do not mess with the stock market, I buy real estate and set up homes for rent. I'm creating housing for people, which to me personally is a way of growing my own wealth while also providing something (in the form of housing) to society.

The reality of working jobs in this day and age is so bad it's why I encourage everyone to find other sources of income besides just a job for the time being.

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

Do you think mandatory military service like in Israel or service to the state in some other way such as environmental help and cleanup is the solution?

 

[Henu the Great]

The "growth" one can expect from military institutions one can gain through meditation, self-reflection and dedication to self-betterment.

This happened to me.

I did not go to military for reasons I will not publicly specify. That being said I was a mess, but over the years the internal process of self-betterment "got the best of me", and now I'm pretty freaking orderly, more so than most others I meet during the day anyway, which is quite something and no thanks to military at all.

 

[Lunar666]

Are binary options legit?

 

[muriceias]

Ideally, no human need to be told to work, they are naturally creative. Unbalances can redefine this.

Personally, I would cut from providing more than necessary for my son/daughter on 15s and advise him/her to meditate and work to fulfil his/hers desires.

It is common to families encouraging kids to follow a certain carreer due to tradition but, because of lack of knowledge, totally disregard their charts which leads to future family conflicts and frustration. That's when astrology can be useful. Considering the gestation to be 9 months, planets like saturn, jupiter, mars, sun, venus and mercury can be predicted on signs if you want something specific. So for example if you want to give birth to an artist, signs like Pisces, Leo, Libra and Taurus can be prioritized. But it is not perfect as the moon, houses and aspects play a role on the person's personality and it will be impossible to predict so it is a try. Generational planets there is no much to say unless you are a god and can choose to have a child the next century. It also depends on the fertility of the couple.

 

[EnkiUK]

Jobs in law enforcement and services like EMS/Fire will always be needed. Also military service.

I don’t know where you are from but in the US you are looked upon highly if you join the service, but I know some nations see it as an easy way out for someone that didn’t have anything else to do.

Law enforcement not for my kids.

I wouldnt want them in that job.

Better ones out there.

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

i need help i can't seem to find interest in any type of career out there which is why i have 2 basic jobs to save up money than move out of my parents house
why does nothing interest me

 

[Aquarius]

i need help i can't seem to find interest in any type of career out there which is why i have 2 basic jobs to save up money than move out of my parents house
why does nothing interest me

Check your natal chart.

 

[Henu the Great]

i need help i can't seem to find interest in any type of career out there which is why i have 2 basic jobs to save up money than move out of my parents house
why does nothing interest me

You will need to start learning about who you are, and what makes you tick. In other words, know thyself. It's one of cornerstones of this path.

One of the things you should do is to get a basic indrocution into astrology by reading from JoS and from other sources to fill on that. Start with the very basics, such as houses, signs, planets. Get some basic level of understanding of what's what. The more complicated things, leave them for later since you have alot learning to do, don't worry about them too much at this point.

In regards to career, you would need to look at what sign is your 2nd house, and 10th house primarly. Also 6th house plays a role here, and what planets, if any, in those houses. Look for some fixed star decrees, if you can and ponder about them what they could mean, if there are some. Your homework should be to look for what these houses represent in astrology. Should be pretty easy task, it's on JoS.

This Path is about self improvement after all, not complaing. I hope the best for you.

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

i need help i can't seem to find interest in any type of career out there which is why i have 2 basic jobs to save up money than move out of my parents house
why does nothing interest me

You will need to start learning about who you are, and what makes you tick. In other words, know thyself. It's one of cornerstones of this path.

One of the things you should do is to get a basic indrocution into astrology by reading from JoS and from other sources to fill on that. Start with the very basics, such as houses, signs, planets. Get some basic level of understanding of what's what. The more complicated things, leave them for later since you have alot learning to do, don't worry about them too much at this point.

In regards to career, you would need to look at what sign is your 2nd house, and 10th house primarly. Also 6th house plays a role here, and what planets, if any, in those houses. Look for some fixed star decrees, if you can and ponder about them what they could mean, if there are some. Your homework should be to look for what these houses represent in astrology. Should be pretty easy task, it's on JoS.

This Path is about self improvement after all, not complaing. I hope the best for you.

well a couple of the things i remember about career from my astrology chart was that i could make money off of Art and that i could supposedly have a talent with electricity and maybe be a counselor?

 

[Henu the Great]

well a couple of the things i remember about career from my astrology chart was that i could make money off of Art and that i could supposedly have a talent with electricity and maybe be a counselor?

Yes, whatever interests you, and you find passion and/or talent in can be used to make money. Learn, apply the learning and make money.

 

[Godmode]

That's true. It's lonely at the top, I guess!

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

i have a question what kind of job or skill at minimum is required in the United states which i live in is it to get a 1 bedroom apartment without working paycheck to paycheck cause the 2 jobs i work barely give any hours if that and don't pay much and also the state i live in is one of the more expensive states at that so any suggestions for skills/jobs?

 

[Crystallized Mushroom]

also sorry for derailing this thread about the stupid arguments with my parents i just don't know who to talk to about my frustrations anymore i feel i have no one to relate to at this point oh well guess i'll just cope with Yoga of all kinds and exercise and working more on myself financially with the data entry i wanna do to start off with cause why not.

also would you say music and writing down my problems then either burning or destroying the paper i wrote the problems on are good copes cause i say they would be. music always makes me feel better not sure why though