Fire

[goodemon2012]

hi

i've been breathing in fire for a few months and i'm at 17 breaths. the thing is that my body tempis still below normal 97.6. for me a low body temp is normal-got that from my grandma- but after this much fire i should have had a temp spike. i've also been trying the Expanding the Sushumna meditation but not everyday cause i feel the heat more when i'm doing my fire meditations. any idea what is going on?

i'm also wondering after how many breaths should i start doing pyrokinthetics? i've read the whole jos site but nothing in the meditation is mentioned about how many breaths one should have reached before beginning.
any advice is apprechated.

Hail Father Satan

 

[Seth R]

hey.

Pyrokinesis happens when u breathe in the fire element and accumulate it to a great degree in urself. Direct this energy through the palms/fingertips.

When working with fire, you should know the difference between what is 'uncomfortable and what is just too much.'


Fire just doesn't increase ur body temp, but it makes you dominant, wild, and "aggressive" per se.

Have you noticed any changes since u beagn breathing in this element?

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "goodemon2012" <goodemon2012@... wrote:

hi

i've been breathing in fire for a few months and i'm at 17 breaths. the thing is that my body tempis still below normal 97.6. for me a low body temp is normal-got that from my grandma- but after this much fire i should have had a temp spike. i've also been trying the Expanding the Sushumna meditation but not everyday cause i feel the heat more when i'm doing my fire meditations. any idea what is going on?

i'm also wondering after how many breaths should i start doing pyrokinthetics? i've read the whole jos site but nothing in the meditation is mentioned about how many breaths one should have reached before beginning.
any advice is apprechated.

Hail Father Satan

 

[Allen Walker]

Yep. right on.

I believe the instructions say to only do the meditations for a certain
amount, due to the reasons that some peoples souls may not be empowered as
others. This instruction is for beginners not just to a practice, but to
the beginners of overall amount of their natural soul power. Everyone that
comes to practice is initially on a different level.

Like he said.. use your ability to sense how comfortable or not it is, and
adjust the amount of breathes you do, the amount of elements you are taking
in, to where you can safely do it.. and still progress. What you can try is
instead of just breathing it in and out.. try holding it in and condensing
it in the same space. If you feel you need to up the power.. then just add
more breathes by doubling it or however much you feel is right.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Seth R <jri9vero@... wrote:



hey.

Pyrokinesis happens when u breathe in the fire element and accumulate it to
a great degree in urself. Direct this energy through the palms/fingertips.

When working with fire, you should know the difference between what is
'uncomfortable and what is just too much.'

Fire just doesn't increase ur body temp, but it makes you dominant, wild,
and "aggressive" per se.

Have you noticed any changes since u beagn breathing in this element?


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
"goodemon2012" <goodemon2012@... wrote:

hi

i've been breathing in fire for a few months and i'm at 17 breaths. the
thing is that my body tempis still below normal 97.6. for me a low body temp
is normal-got that from my grandma- but after this much fire i should have
had a temp spike. i've also been trying the Expanding the Sushumna
meditation but not everyday cause i feel the heat more when i'm doing my
fire meditations. any idea what is going on?

i'm also wondering after how many breaths should i start doing
pyrokinthetics? i've read the whole jos site but nothing in the meditation
is mentioned about how many breaths one should have reached before
beginning.
any advice is apprechated.

Hail Father Satan







--
"None of them are my friends. For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


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[mike remington]

As with any 'element' (I hate that term, fire is not really an element) but for con. sake, let's stick to tradtional mythology.
 
What you are in essence trying to achieve is to create a mental image that is so strong and firm that you are creating an actual thing on a level that is not percievable to physical senses. The physical universe is build on the bedrock of this reality, noting physically exist without a mental or astral form, and if you want to condense the fire element you need to create it in the mental sphere first.
 
now give it your unwavering belief and emotion so that it can take form and condense in the astral sphere. You must be absolutely convinced otherwise it will fail to effectively pass through the spheres down to the physical.You have to define it in your mind exactly where it is, as space is very illusitory and is even more so in the astral plane.
 
When I first used bardons methods of condensing the elements more than 15 years ago now, I had limited success until I learned to make sure I had all three of these factors firmly in place. If your not getting the results you want, examine where you are going wrong, it will have to be in one of these phases, once you correct it, you should start to see some real measurable results. also try invoking some of the beings from the fire element to help you, they can be quite useful.
 
before you try your physical pyrotechnics, try creating an astral firestorm if your clairavoyance is good, you will see the effects of this on sphere. It is a good skill to have because even the most dangerous demons are subject to that fire and can be effectively (indirectly) threatend by your ability to condense the element and your influence over them will be even greater. (its like having a nuclear weapon, you dont have to use it in order for it to inspire fear).
 
I would wish you luck, but that has nothing to do with your success, so I'll save the cliche'
 
Remington
 
p.s. why do you guys hail father satan? aren't you just subsituting one ruler (God) for another? why not hail to your own sense of power.
 

--- On Sat, 14/11/09, Allen Walker <krystollsynth@... wrote:


From: Allen Walker <krystollsynth@...
Subject: Re: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Fire
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Received: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 1:06 AM


Yep.  right on.

I believe the instructions say to only do the meditations for a certain
amount, due to the reasons that some peoples souls may not be empowered as
others.  This instruction is for beginners not just to a practice, but to
the beginners of overall amount of their natural soul power.  Everyone that
comes to practice is initially on a different level.

Like he said.. use your ability to sense how comfortable or not it is, and
adjust the amount of breathes you do, the amount of elements you are taking
in, to where you can safely do it.. and still progress.  What you can try is
instead of just breathing it in and out.. try holding it in and condensing
it in the same space.  If you feel you need to up the power.. then just add
more breathes by doubling it or however much you feel is right.





On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Seth R <jri9vero@... wrote:



hey.

Pyrokinesis happens when u breathe in the fire element and accumulate it to
a great degree in urself. Direct this energy through the palms/fingertips.

When working with fire, you should know the difference between what is
'uncomfortable and what is just too much.'

Fire just doesn't increase ur body temp, but it makes you dominant, wild,
and "aggressive" per se.

Have you noticed any changes since u beagn breathing in this element?


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com,
"goodemon2012" <goodemon2012@... wrote:

hi

i've been breathing in fire for a few months and i'm at 17 breaths. the
thing is that my body tempis still below normal 97.6. for me a low body temp
is normal-got that from my grandma- but after this much fire i should have
had a temp spike. i've also been trying the Expanding the Sushumna
meditation but not everyday cause i feel the heat more when i'm doing my
fire meditations. any idea what is going on?

i'm also wondering after how many breaths should i start doing
pyrokinthetics? i've read the whole jos site but nothing in the meditation
is mentioned about how many breaths one should have reached before
beginning.
any advice is apprechated.

Hail Father Satan


 




--
"None of them are my friends.  For a man to truly be my friend, he must be
my equal in every respect to go after his dream, even if it means fighting
me to protect his own."

"Never will I fight for another man with my own sword.. For to do so is to
be a soldier and follow his light.. a Warrior follows his own."


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