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Doubt & Disbelief: Zevism

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos11 min to read

Doubt and disbelief are very normal human states of mind when we don't know about certain topics or we lack certain experiences. Due to lack of knowledge of a topic, or the fact that everyone is born inside a background without any spiritual knowledge, it is very logical that them in mind might doubt a lot of things one might read in regard Occultism.

Occultism in general is also rife with misinformation so a lot of people come here very disappointed or misinformed. Mainstream "religion" is rife with lies, which if one does not doubt, they will never end up being a Zevist in the first place. Doubt and defiance of falsehood is a good trait that can lead one to the Truth, to some extent.

Zevism is the True Path and in Zevism, like with any real system, doubt and disbelief is very much accepted. One can doubt especially in the earlier stages where one has not yet acquired the sufficient education, knowledge or experiences associated with this path.

Now, regardless of what anyone tells anyone else, in Zevism there is a gateway, and this gateway is the Initiation. One can do a lot of research, or even attempt a prayer to the Gods to look for an omen of their existence.

Yet, if one is not truly open and just uses doubt as a shield to deny any information, no amount of knowledge will save someone from lack of experience or lack of bravery - this bravery is very much necessary to embark on a spiritual journey or to attain higher levels of understanding.

All these billions of cowards you see outside in this world, who are afraid of "Going to Hell" or who fear their own mommy might beat their ass with a belt for questioning Jesus or Mohammed, they are not fit for enlightenment and will never receive anything but comfortable lies.

The Gods are not looking for gullible slaves they are looking for people who have a heart and mind that is of a different nature than that.

The same case is the case in anything meaningful one tries to do in their lives. One might want to open a business, but they make serious doubts about it. In some cases, doubt is there to show you that you must learn more about a subject. In other cases doubt is there to merely make you question yourself and never develop. Doubt like all things does need a balance to itself.

Doubt and Disbelief are cured when one takes certain steps to solve these states of mind. They are cured by correct information, accumulating experience, and experimentation that brings conclusions out that experience. These conclusions might also improve as time goes and one learns more.

One might entirely doubt meditation, but one has to do this and see if it yields some results. This has to be done on certain guidelines, for example, one might need to meditate for a while to see results.

On a personal level I am only here because of extensive knowledge, extensive experience, full on beyond doubt manifestations of the Gods, and have earned this process all the way from the first time I was around.

When I first found the Temple of Zeus site, although it immediately registered to me as "YES, THIS IS IT", I was highly doubtful and I therefore, albeit having read everything, did a standard Ritual to the Gods to verify for myself what is going on. I experienced this very directly, and I knew they existed, this is how I eventually dedicated.

I also knew for a full on and very carefully verified fact, that the programs of the enemy were only to mindwash, built on lies, emotional coercion, and the most major level of hypocrisy possible under the sun. I had seen for MYSELF.

I had a very careful approach to dedication and did not do it like a dumb Muslim or a little terrified Xian that is too afraid to go to "Hell" and therefore goes to "Jesus for salvation". These people are cowardly and they can never attain any higher understanding.

To reach a state of progression, it takes time, effort, trial and error and self overcoming and the path reveals itself step by step. In the beginning, there can only be a misty path in front of you, no matter who or what told you anything.

Even regular things in life like going to the gym, necessitate that you stick to a project, and after one training session in the gym you will not become a full scale bodybuilder. After your first gym session you will probably go home and think you did nothing, minus feeling tired or challenged. Spiritual progression works in a similar way.

But like bodybuilders who have been through all these states of doubt and self overcoming, they have won against their doubts by exercising knowledge to attain certain purposes, and they no longer doubt anything or experience disbelief.

Therefore, doubt or disbelief has different contents when it comes to these levels:

1. Before initiation / searching phase
2. After initiation / new initiation phase
3. Accustomed Zevism / way into the path, proof and verification has definitely shown itself, but one might need more
4. Advanced Zevism / very developed in the path, where in this case doubt has either vanished or has to do with other topics that are not basic topics

It's natural for a student that is learning the alphabet to show up in a university and consider that the teachers are either delusional or know nothing, such as in physics class. When one sees these equations they will tell themselves that these don't make any sense or constitute superstition. But when these equations are used for example on the application of an atom bomb, they produce that result. Then anyone can understand that this is factually true, despite of any opinions.

There are also some people that even after they see the applied equations and the atom bomb going, they will still say that this is not caused by the equations or the scientific knowledge, but because of a random factor, or make up constant excuses to feed their doubts. But most people will understand that. As one evolves in the path, this can get rectified to the point one's life and existence does change in it's entirety.

I ask therefore all new Zevists or those interested to just keep an open mind, keep studying and of course, don't be afraid to make a few experiments and either pray to the Gods or try something from the JoS. Just be aware that there are MANY things one does not know yet, and mistakes or other things can happen. Make sure to gain a full "around" knowledge and don't take yourself only as the full measurement for actuality, because there are many things to learn.

Also, older and higher members must remember that EVERYONE has existed in that state before. Politeness, patience, understanding and maybe repetitive lessons and responses might be needed in order to instruct newcomers, helping them to stay in the path and proceed with their own learning. Do not punish people for doubts. We must be stern with ourselves to be able to address these doubts or lead people better to discover their own answers.

The Gods specialize in this process and we have to support the same path. Have PATIENCE with the newer members, show them love and consideration. They are trying to discover the Truth. Help them, do not ever demean them or ridicule them for you have been in their shoes in their current state of development beforehand. Teaching others takes time, patience, understanding and care. A very few might not learn, but the striking majority will appreciate this and understand how important what you do for them is.

If the Gods started ridiculing humans for our ignorance, where would we be? We would never learn.

Newcomers must also understand that the striking majority here is extremely convinced and certain of our system. That has to be understood and accepted, it's because people have earned this understanding and life change after a long arduous effort with themselves and application of knowledge. So some things might look like elementary to them. Still, the real Zevists will treat you with kindness.

Yet since not everyone is a teacher oriented personality (and that is acceptable) not everyone might be willing to put in the effort of teaching you everything from A to Z. You can consult others but you will have to learn also on your own, like in school.

Zevism is not against doubts or disbelief, or any form of question. Our only rule is that we want politeness and an awareness when it comes to issuing these questions, but also respect for our beliefs which are common here because as a community we are all in this path and have experienced the path for what it is.

Further we do accept questions or doubting, but we will not accept proselytizing, same as an illiterate man cannot draw out the scientists I mentioned on the above example in the woods, when one doesn't know how to light a fire. That's why when one becomes a Zevist, not even 1% of people ever does return back to the programs of control to the enemy.

We have long left these programs after discovering them to be outright lies, inconsistent with the human spirit or our personal spirit, or due to major lies and inconsistencies, no religious or spiritual "experience" was granted from these fraud programs of the enemy and we left them for very valid reasons. Dobut and bravery to discover something else lead to higher understanding in that case.

I have found also that every Zevist has left the enemy for very valid reasons, in contrast to the enemy cults where one just enters in randomly or by force through birth. In these systems, "doubt" is considered the "grave sin". That's because if these systems are questioned even at 1%, they instantly collapse.

In our approach to existence, doubt is only a grave sin if it's done stupidly or in a wrongful manner.

Doubt and Disbelief is acceptable in Zevism. There is no special place of torment, hellfire, or Jihad to be done against the "disbeliever" just because they doubted or question things about us. That is the job of the enemy.

As far as we are concerned we will are aware about the fact of what awaits those who don't apply this knowledge, only due to the result of what lack of development brings based on natural consequences of the universe. Our Gods don't punish, kill or jihad a mere disbeliever just because they doubted or they don't want to join them. That is not the work of God.

That's the work of slave colonies, which the Gods are not a slave colony, they are a house of free men.

Our Gods are not going to cast you into any "Eternal Hellfire" for doubting, nor any Zevist will be around to forcibly prosyletize to you with a machette like a Muslim because you did not "Join us". The Truth costs you by default for not choosing it, that cannot be enforced. We understand this and we are happy about what we follow, but will guard our rights to keep doing that. We are free to do so.

Any form of retaliation that might come from us is only because we have been attacked and had our freedom violated, which is unacceptable on natural standards, if our rights to evolve and advance are attacked because YOU are intolerant of that. That is all there is to it.

Doubt and disbelief, to a non threatening and polite extent, is something we will always tolerate in our community. One can doubt many things as well not necessarily the path, but themselves and other parts of their life. That's acceptable as well. Conviction in order to be strong can arise only after a long and considerable view of reality has been established.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#22

Knowledge and wisdom cannot be bought. They are achieved with consistency and patience.
Always very clear Supreme HPZM, your words are like rain of wisdom.

#23

Wonderful post High Priest thank you very much, I needed to read this. The concept of making a novice feel considered and loved is very important, because then they think they are incapable or that there is something wrong with themselves, slowing down the process for those who already have their own difficulties and insecurities. I'm happy to see it written here, thanks.

#24
This is the targeted message.

Amazing HPZM sermon.
When I started on this path four years ago I had huge doubts and distrust of myself as well, which was a residue of the Judeo-Christian programming I had endured. These all slowly began to diminish with spiritual progress and contact with the Gods. I remember at the time of Corona I was at the most difficult time in my life and one step away from destruction, to the extent that I was barely doing the rituals. And yet despite the adverse conditions and while it seemed that the ship was sinking I continued to hold the wheel. Going through adverse and difficult circumstances and opening my mind and soul I moved on and overcame things that seemed insurmountable. The reward if obstacles are overcome is enormous and everyone should stay firmly on the path no matter how difficult things may seem temporarily, because every zevist is precious and has the power to overcome all obstacles or they would not be here

By studying you will find that Zeus is the true God of humanity and the pre-Christian Gentile Gods/Demons are our trusted guides. We realize our origin from our God Zeus. We transform our souls through the daily practice of power meditation. Through this practice we ascend to higher levels as Gods and manifest our true potential

#25

In my search to find out what it really is. This is indeed the closest thing yet. My pondering is on the info that we live in a simulation. That we don't have to think that we only live in the Newtonian world where everything is 3D and measurable. But the knowledge of the Quantum universe is intriguing.

That if you look close enough at matter there is nothing there. Its potentiality. I'm talking about 'string theory'. That an atom becomes waves of energy when it's not being observed.

And in meditation we raise our frequency and go beyond space/time (Classical Newtonian Physics where everything is predictable). Into time/space. Where things are not measurable in the astral realm of the base energy of the universe. Potentiality.

What are we that we can raise our frequency in meditation and experience different spaces, different dimensions and realities. I know we must not focus on the physical body because at the core of it we are light we are spirit.

Our Gods are Spirits because they operate at higher frequencies and have more light. We are more physical because we are less advanced?

Also we believe in the ancient Gods of Egypt, Rome and Ancient Greece.

There is quite a bit to consider. That there is no time. That past present and future are all happening now. What I'm saying that Gladiator days are still happening right now. And that there are different realities on this earth.

Maybe with different peoples operating frequencies some live in a lower dimension on this word. And for others with more light and higher frequencies this world is much brighter, happier, just. So we create our environment for ourselves and others may be have worse conditions all because we're making it all up in our minds. As they say the world is how you see it.

Zeus is Truth. And Zeus is humanities true Creator and God. Hail Zeus and our Demon friends.

#26

My main weakness has been not being good at communicating with people. I used to be extremely shy and afraid to talk to people when I was young, then I went to being confident enough to talk to anybody, but still not always knowing what to say. I'm good at saying what I think is the truth, but not as good with saying things in a way that people are happy to hear.

This is something I have gotten a lot better with from a lot of practice of trying to help people here. But it is still not always perfect.

I know that my intentions are good, because all of my intentions are love for our people. Nearly all of my soul is love, and my love for our people gives me an extremely high drive to help, and guide, and educate, and assist humanity as much as I possibly can. And helping as many people as possible as much as possible. Then I'm trying to help, but the weakness comes up again of saying things in a way that people don't like to hear. Because I want to go directly to the Truth, but this doesn't always sound nice.

You are very good at writing and communication and it has improved drastically over the previous years, I am sure everyone knows this. When you respond it's a valuable response at all times. Yes there might be a problem sometimes with what you describe but that's just one thing more to work on.

You don't need to lie, you just need to consider where another might be coming from.

Everyone knows and recognizes your care and love for the community, it's a proven thing. So if sometimes you just don't describe it properly it's not a crime or anything. These things happen. Written communication can be quite difficult at any rate.

I remember at the time of Corona I was at the most difficult time in my life and one step away from destruction, to the extent that I was barely doing the rituals. And yet despite the adverse conditions and while it seemed that the ship was sinking I continued to hold the wheel. Going through adverse and difficult circumstances and opening my mind and soul I moved on and overcame things that seemed insurmountable.

A very beautiful and inspiring statement. Thank you for holding the wheel, I am sure you feel very proud about yourself now and you should be.

#28

The problem I have always had is that I have always had trouble interpetrating the answers of the gods and I am always incredulous unless I can hear a direct clairaudience answer.

#29

You are very good at writing and communication and it has improved drastically over the previous years, I am sure everyone knows this. When you respond it's a valuable response at all times. Yes there might be a problem sometimes with what you describe but that's just one thing more to work on.

You don't need to lie, you just need to consider where another might be coming from.

Everyone knows and recognizes your care and love for the community, it's a proven thing. So if sometimes you just don't describe it properly it's not a crime or anything. These things happen. Written communication can be quite difficult at any rate.

Thank you brother, in any case I am proud because I overcame very deep problems that have plagued me all my life, but without Satan the Gods the Jos family and your inspirational sermons I would have been finished

By studying you will find that Zeus is the true God of humanity and the pre-Christian Gentile Gods/Demons are our trusted guides. We realize our origin from our God Zeus. We transform our souls through the daily practice of power meditation. Through this practice we ascend to higher levels as Gods and manifest our true potential

#30

The problem I have always had is that I have always had trouble interpetrating the answers of the gods and I am always incredulous unless I can hear a direct clairaudience answer.

Use Logr and Dagaz runes together into your 3rd eye and 6th chakra programmed to improve the strength and accuracy of your intuition. Logr, Dagaz, Sowilo would be a good set.

#31

The problem I have always had is that I have always had trouble interpetrating the answers of the gods and I am always incredulous unless I can hear a direct clairaudience answer.

That is not something bad. You will learn this with time. The Gods will always tell you the most correct thing. Then you must take this and analyze this to clearly understand it.

#32

My main weakness has been not being good at communicating with people. I used to be extremely shy and afraid to talk to people when I was young, then I went to being confident enough to talk to anybody, but still not always knowing what to say. I'm good at saying what I think is the truth, but not as good with saying things in a way that people are happy to hear.

This is something I have gotten a lot better with from a lot of practice of trying to help people here. But it is still not always perfect.

I know that my intentions are good, because all of my intentions are love for our people. Nearly all of my soul is love, and my love for our people gives me an extremely high drive to help, and guide, and educate, and assist humanity as much as I possibly can. And helping as many people as possible as much as possible. Then I'm trying to help, but the weakness comes up again of saying things in a way that people don't like to hear. Because I want to go directly to the Truth, but this doesn't always sound nice.

I found a book about 4 weeks ago, titled "Gespreksvoering - Basisvaardigheden en gespreksmodellen" written by Henk T. van der Molen and Frits Kluijtmans; Which is a course book about how to hold a conversation / communication skills. Chapters are:
1.Aspects of Communication
Part I Basic skills
2. Listening skills
3. Regulating skills
4. Sending skills
Part II Conversation models
5 Informationgathering conversation
6 Advice conversation
7 Bad-News conversation
8 Assessment and functioning conversation
9 Discipline conversation
===

I probably kinda butchered the translation of the chapters, sorry - Unfortunately I could not find the book as a translated version in English. Nor did I find an ebook copy. .. And since its copyrighted I can't copy the text and throw it through a translator either.

So maybe if you look for courses online about communicating with other people, these would be helpful for you. Definitely look around what the set-up of these courses are. I sat at a workshop once that had a wheel-set up on behavior, with opposing behavior on each side. Think about things like, if you approach someone, if you talk to someone, do you stand in front of them, or do you stand beside/next to them? Positioning is important.
These things are also found in Psychology, and is actually a studied subject here..

I hope this bit of info was helpful to you.
...
I was actually going to return this book today to where I found it.. So that others would see it and also find it helpful .. But I haven't done that yet and I guess this was why.

Temporarily inactive.

#33

The problem I have always had is that I have always had trouble interpetrating the answers of the gods and I am always incredulous unless I can hear a direct clairaudience answer.

As for speaking with Gods, know that they always hear and listen. They truly know us leagues ahead of the current state.

While communicating, clear your thoughts, don't expect any result, other than the one, that it penultimately true. Yeah, sometimes one can fool oneself by projecting your own wishes as the answer. So calm and meditative state is always a better option here.

And don't doubt, consider the card drawn out to be the defenitive answer. As Gods, being who they are, will always give a correct answer. If the answer is not clear, never omit asking some additional questions, don't be shy. This kinda helps, as creates a positive loop, dragging one out of the habitual distrust of your own abbility to understand, as you are sure in the result and later inquiries will be easier for you.

I struggled with that myself, but later surpassed these mental barriers with the way above and meditation.
Also do Sun and Mars squares to empower accordant chakras and the traits you need, like will, determination and confidence.
Just a little something out of my experience, do your own research of course.

#34
TheWhiteGiantsaid:post: 506475

Thank you so much for you kind words, brother. I hope what you say is true, that Demons have been with me since past lives. That would make me really happy.

I guess one thing I have to do for now, is an empirical approach towards the metaphysical. I need to "bring down the heavens to the earth" per se ( basically I mean I should study more scientifically about magick). You can only go so far on pure faith alone.

Redo HPZM’s 40 day meditation program from step one again even if you’ve finished it. If you haven’t give it a try!

#35

In the world of science, throughout history, doubt was the tool for discovery and advancement. Doubting is the first approach to reality, but as HPZM stated there's a difference between doubting and be stubborn about acknowledging and accepting things, to the point you build the entire of the cinese Great Wall against the world and its reality, above and below.
Learning recquire efforts, doubt is a mirror for fear that can be replaced by certainty and courage, but you are your own engine.
I will quote something Lord Thot wrote long time ago through our HPS Pythia: " The greatest obstacle to true spirituality is FEAR ".

#36

In the world of science, throughout history, doubt was the tool for discovery and advancement. Doubting is the first approach to reality, but as HPZM stated there's a difference between doubting and be stubborn about acknowledging and accepting things, to the point you build the entire of the cinese Great Wall against the world and its reality, above and below.
Learning recquire efforts, doubt is a mirror for fear that can be replaced by certainty and courage, but you are your own engine.
I will quote something Lord Thot wrote long time ago through our HPS Pythia: " The greatest obstacle to true spirituality is FEAR ".

There’s an achievement in the game Army of Two called Fear is the Mind Killer. That was one of the first things I thought about when learning about Satan.

#37

Doubt and disbelief are very normal human states of mind when we don't know about certain topics or we lack certain experiences. Due to lack of knowledge of a topic, or the fact that everyone is born inside a background without any spiritual knowledge, it is very logical that them in mind might doubt a lot of things one might read in regard Occultism.

Occultism in general is also rife with misinformation so a lot of people come here very disappointed or misinformed. Mainstream "religion" is rife with lies, which if one does not doubt, they will never end up being a Spiritual Satanist in the first place. Doubt and defiance of falsehood is a good trait that can lead one to the Truth, to some extent.

Spiritual Satanism is the True Path and in Spiritual Satanism, like with any real system, doubt and disbelief is very much accepted. One can doubt especially in the earlier stages where one has not yet acquired the sufficient education, knowledge or experiences associated with this path.

Special thanks to you high priest Zevios Metathronos, voiceofenki, and fancymancy. I'll forever be grateful to you all not forgetting high priestess Pythia and high priestess Lydia. Since the Yahoo group times when I was just a fresh dedicated Satanist till date

#39

Doubt and disbelief are very normal human states of mind when we don't know about certain topics or we lack certain experiences. Due to lack of knowledge of a topic, or the fact that everyone is born inside a background without any spiritual knowledge, it is very logical that them in mind might doubt a lot of things one might read in regard Occultism.

Occultism in general is also rife with misinformation so a lot of people come here very disappointed or misinformed. Mainstream "religion" is rife with lies, which if one does not doubt, they will never end up being a Spiritual Satanist in the first place. Doubt and defiance of falsehood is a good trait that can lead one to the Truth, to some extent.

Spiritual Satanism is the True Path and in Spiritual Satanism, like with any real system, doubt and disbelief is very much accepted. One can doubt especially in the earlier stages where one has not yet acquired the sufficient education, knowledge or experiences associated with this path.

Joy of Satan Home sweet Home!!
Thank you HP, your knowledge is applicable in all areas of life

#40

The Gods are not looking for gullible slaves they are looking for people who have a heart and mind that is of a different nature than that.

To reach a state of progression, it takes time, effort, trial and error and self overcoming and the path reveals itself step by step. In the beginning, there can only be a misty path in front of you, no matter who or what told you anything.

Dear HPZM666, Thank you for that enlightened sermon. I must admit that I only found JoS website in December 2023 (just 5 months ago). But I have been following my own beliefs for 50 yrs and that belief was described over and over again in JoS. Imagine my incredulity to recognize that MY GOD's name is Father Satan! But I embraced JoS as being the only path for me. Since finding JoS, I have had no doubts about my faith in Father Satan and all the Demon Gods of Elysium. I have practiced meditation and absorption of universal energy all this 50 yrs, so I have no doubts about my abilities along those lines................However, I had never absorbed a tremendous amount of energy and trying to absorb enough for magickal workings makes me DIZZY. I have a lot of basic stuff I need to learn and practice to advance my Soul. And I know it will take time. Thank you for reminding me that my Brothers and Sisters in Zevism will have patience and Be polite with my Newbie Questions. I'd like to know about how long it takes to get over the DIZZY phase (as if I'm too full of Energy)? Or is that How It is SUPPOSED to feel?

HAIL ZEUS!

#41

Greetings all,

This year i stoped using drugs and started a healthy life doing exercise and eating good. Im also focused on learning and taking more seriously mu job (computing) and trying to learn how to play music.

I want to be more deprogramed until I do my dedication ritual to not feel ashamed in front of the gods. I think I need more strenght.

I want to ask what happend when I did exercises after drinking one or more beers (like 5 alk.) is that bad for the muscles? and why?

HAIL ZEUS!

#42

Doubt and disbelief are very normal human states of mind when we don't know about certain topics or we lack certain experiences. Due to lack of knowledge of a topic, or the fact that everyone is born inside a background without any spiritual knowledge, it is very logical that them in mind might doubt a lot of things one might read in regard Occultism.

Occultism in general is also rife with misinformation so a lot of people come here very disappointed or misinformed. Mainstream "religion" is rife with lies, which if one does not doubt, they will never end up being a Spiritual Satanist in the first place. Doubt and defiance of falsehood is a good trait that can lead one to the Truth, to some extent.

Spiritual Satanism is the True Path and in Spiritual Satanism, like with any real system, doubt and disbelief is very much accepted. One can doubt especially in the earlier stages where one has not yet acquired the sufficient education, knowledge or experiences associated with this path.

I really enjoyed this so much.