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Communicating The Truth To Your Parents - Advice

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos9 min to read

Oftentimes there are posts here about how those younger or us and generally everyone attempts to communicate the Truth or at least some ideas here to our parents and/or immediate family members.

When a soul is kind, when they find something positive and great, they want to share it with the people that they love. Especially true is the case where this happens to us here. When one discovers the Joy of Satan and they find out that meditation works, that the Gods do provide help and counsel and so on, this can be exciting and rejuvenate people with new hope that did not exist before.

It can come as a shock that other people may not want to engage in this, but this comes only AFTER one has crossed the gates, understood what this is about, received counsel or help from the Gods and so on. Therefore, one has crossed the walls of this big change called Satanism, and one has some knowledge of it. One has questioned themselves past the conditioning.

Many people however remain outside the closed gates, inside conditioning, and one's parents are no different. It makes logical sense to want to help those of whom you love or whom you have blood ties with and looking for their best interest.

It also makes logical sense that these people have been lied to strongly. They may not want to be helped, may see you as negative, or even consider someone a threat, insane, or whatever have you if you try to do that, also. One therefore has to be really careful.

The case has to be observed however from the perspective of your parents. Zevism has strong family values, and family tree values. Even our "scary" statements about Race are only extensions of these values, since families, blood ties, etc, construct races after many hundreds of years.

We value ancestors, family, and this is one of the reasons we also have moved back to the Ancient Gods rather than believing in the modern flick of the enemy paradigm which concerns stories of the hebrews and nothing useful for us, or the world. This is a good decision not a bad one, but others may not see it that way.

Yet many people are told this is "Good", "Moral", "Correct" and so on, to follow these things. The images connected to our side of affairs can be really negative, threatening, and point a parent that their child is in some seriously negative situation, even mentally unwell or life threatening.

When your parents suspect, or find out you are a Satanist, the popular culture images will come to their head. They will think that you are in a cult, that you are into drugs, that you are a skinhead [even if you are Black] or that you are currently in a self destructive phase because you don't even understand what is going on with your life.

Any parent who cares for their children, will be scared of this, and monitor the situation closely or try to stop it. Careless parents may not care. More open minded parents may make a consideration. It all depends on the people in question.

Generational gap of understanding can also come in question. You may be let's say 18 and your parents may be 38 or 48. The generational gap of understanding can be very large. What you read in the JoS over 1 month, your parents have not seen possibly in one lifetime.

Ideas that we are open to experiment with, have been forcibly kept out of the minds of previous generations.

They are looking at the subject from outside the door and the fortress looks scary through their rose colored glasses. They do not know that you advance spiritually, that we have a strong opposed policy against drugs, that the meditations do good to the mind, body and soul, fixing endless issues. They will not understand that your capacity to do magick can be lifesaving, or that you came to these decisions after free will and study.

One's parents, unless real bad or terrible, will become scared, recoil, and even attack you or restrain you from doing what they consider evil. Do not blame them, because we are the most misunderstood ideological spectrum of ideas on the earth at this point. They have visuals of blood imagery, hate, and all the uglier things.

No good parent would want their daughter or son into these things that are considered destructive or negative. They would never, under no circumstance, leave their children to go down this road that they consider evil.

For those who regardless try to breach this whole of lies to get to their parents, or family members, know that this can be an extremely difficult task. The degree of impossibility can be high. Most parents believe that they completely own children, and have no faith in the decisions of their own children.

The reality is as I see it from the parental perspective, that the above is really CORRECT most of the time. Most parents are rightfully scared, as most young people do the most stupid, threatening, and potentially damning choices. Since the odds that one's kids have done some extremely wise or positive decision can be really low, they can be mistrustful, but you can possibly almost never convince them in Zevism, unless you are at least older.

It is almost a hopeless situation to try to explain these to parents as these strong cases of closed minds persist and are necessary to parenthood. Indeed, when one is a parent, they'll see that for themselves. Children tend to do fuckups and mistakes more often than not. This includes trusting wrong people, damaging themselves, and taking life decisions that can be negative.

It is a sad case that it is not easy to communicate our facts at this point. Theoretically, this path is the most positive one can take, filling one with hope, ambition, power, understanding, and propelling one to stand stronger against life's negativity or adversity. We know this is all great because we have lived this for ourselves.

This is like people observing a very scary castle. You can come out of the castle and tell them that nothing scary or threatening happens in the inside, but they will refuse listening. In a parent to children relationship, the strong factor that one's children are on the wrong side, can persist.

We have also had positive examples, where the soul of one's parents was already with this side, and they accepted this gift that came from their own children. Indeed what a greater blessing than giving life to a being and doing positive things for you. Be it that most modern family relations are ruinous, parents should at least LISTEN, but this is only THEORY and oftentimes, inapplicable in real life.

The clashes that can emerge out of this can be more negative than positive for one to try to change the mind of other people. Parents in general see their children's judgement as oftentimes errant. Parents also like every other human being have their times, highs and lows, and they may listen at one time but idle out in another time. It can take knowing them to be able to communicate with them, especially about such life changing things.

Parents may also pretend to listen to one's kids and observe them, while they entirely disagree with their ideas. And they are right, sometimes. I cannot say that as a parent I'd do differently if all my sensory input information was as wrong in my mind as it was in theirs.

One has to respect their parents and during the phase of realization which for some of us came in the teenage years, clashes and fights are to be expected. Parents are definitely not always perfect, and more often than not, there can be clashes, imperfections, what have you.

A certain segment of parents can also be totally rotten, abusive, and destructive. For both of these cases one has the mental fortitude and knowledge to build out of these situations and act accordingly.

Years later one can look back and see that this approach was negative and fruitless to try to convince them. If it works it can be really good, even dreamy, but if it fails, you may throw your life into a negative spiral of abuse, discord and damnation. The enemy has curses about this in the Bible as well, causing discord and hate in the families of Gentiles.

One's parents have sensory input, experiences, and possibly even a soul that has another purpose or can be of not so much spiritual in essence.

Whatever that would benefit them, as we are to care for our loved ones, can be done in the form of workings, but in a silent way. Someone doesn't have to know you are putting an aura of protection around them. They also don't have to know you meditate, nor that you are preoccupied with spiritual work and studying.

As many of us worry about misfortune, death, and spiritual fall of other people, we have tools and the necessary care of the Demons who will take care of them without their knowledge, helping them and assisting them. Oftentimes this can be done so that this help reaches out to the dedicated person, but if one explicitly asks, they can receive help even if they are outsiders.

Therefore functional help that would arrive from them knowing, can at least partly arrive from you. They don't have to know.

The time will come where it will be universally understood that a Satanist in each house is a blessing on this house, bringing positivity, hope, knowledge and understanding, on this source of life that we call the family unit. But this family may start from you instead, extending outwards.

I'll write more advice on going for potential routes of action in other upcoming posts in this series, both towards family and other members in one's immediate living environment.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#20
Bipolar Bearsaid:

So, after a month or so I got released again, I came back to JoS and started meditating for real. What saddens me the most is that I don't hear Satan or any other Demons anymore and I barely feel anything while meditating. Before my first incarceration, I felt my chakras very clearly, for example when I was closing them. Now I don't see or feel anything.

If you are doing Ritual's and meditating then it is not necessarily hebrew curses, nor a general lack of power. What is more likely is that the drugs that gave you, probably antipsychotics, dampened your astral senses.

You should look into doing a SaTaNaMa working to heal the damage from the drugs. Perhaps try to ask the Gods for guidance if they think this is right course of action. Just from reading your story, that's what popped out as something that could decrease your astral perception.

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As a side note, I don't think you have to rededicate or anything. Everyone goes through their own problems and what you went through was likely already known by the Gods as a probable challenge you would face. No sense beating yourself up over it now, especially since you were a teen at the time.

I don't know what kind of parents take their kids straight to the psych ward (no offense), unless you were acting like super weird. Even then, going within the same day before you could even like nap or calm down seems harsh. Unless you were frothing at the mouth and babbling incoherently, I wouldn't hold this against yourself. It sounds like more on them then you.

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Speaking of your parents, I don't know if this is possible or not, but try to tone down the appearance of Satanism. If they actively dislike it, don't let it open a rift between you and then. What I mean is, just don't be open about it, and maybe even act less involved or something. However, if they know what the Ritual's are and they hear you continually chanting them, then of course they know you are still involved.

If everything is already out in the open and they know it all, then there isn't anything to gain by backtracking - it will just sound like deception. If they don't know exactly what the Ritual is and just think it is chanting, for example, then perhaps you can act like "oh it was just a phase, I am just a pagan" etc...

Don't take this as meaning actually backing away from Satanism, just reducing your appearance to your parents to avoid future conflict. Anyway, good luck.

#21

i guess my parent would belong to the "not giving a fuck" kind. I told them about them as soon as i found this (how naive i was)and since then,not a single question,especially from my father (the guy cares more about his car then his own son).with that said, i must admit that i cried a fucking river more than once,having to see that dead stare on their faces,thinking of all the things they missed in life...and im not what you would call a very lovely guy. I guess roots are stronger then feelings

#22

I have to say that I wouldn't even hint to my parents that I am a Satanist. My parents are good people, not religious, smart when it comes to issues of this world, but are clueless and ignorant when it comes to spiritual issues. It might be selfish of me to not even try and introduce the topic of Satanism to them, however I would be fighting a lifetime of propaganda and negative image of Satanism in my country due to negative portrayal by media and church. Also, declaring yourself openly as a Zevist in my country and community will bring only trouble due to orthodox x-tianity strong influence here.

So, I keep it to myself today, just like when I first found the JOS site. I am open to discussion if anybody has a different point of view.

#23
nobody111said:

i guess my parent would belong to the "not giving a fuck" kind. I told them about them as soon as i found this (how naive i was)and since then,not a single question,especially from my father (the guy cares more about his car then his own son).with that said, i must admit that i cried a fucking river more than once,having to see that dead stare on their faces,thinking of all the things they missed in life...and im not what you would call a very lovely guy. I guess roots are stronger then feelings

Stay strong Brother.

#24
Jax911said:

In our family, we have been attending traditional Mongolian shamanistic rituals regularly for the last decade. My parents are open to all kinds of spirituality(including all kinds of enemy BS, but noone in our family was stupid or superstitous enough to follow any of them themselves) and they are both very inspired and curious about the occult and they are practicing Qi Gong for the last 2-3 years. I think I'll eventually succeed in opening their eyes FULLY, but I know I need some time, effort and elaboration as to how and when.

It is no big deal. If they are into Traditional Paganism, as in some lucky places like Japan or Mongolia, or if they are Hindus like India, then you are already in great luck. Just give them a silent help and let them have their way.

They are walking along our path but not on the highway. Maybe one way they'll join the highway.

#25
Sisyphussaid:

Best to always be silent and respectful. The blind need to be lead not lectured. If you need to talk to them just come out say you are Yazidi :mrgreen: . They might even give you a bronze peacock for yule 😄.

Better say nothing and Silence is Golden.

Many had to find out the hard way.

#26
nobody111said:

i must admit that i cried a fucking river more than once,having to see that dead stare on their faces,thinking of all the things they missed in life...and im not what you would call a very lovely guy. I guess roots are stronger then feelings

They will be fine as long as their souls are fine. They may not advance spiritually in the near future, but they will eventually, as will the majority of Gentiles. Don't not think they are eternally fucked or something, because this is just based on present circumstances and not what the future holds.

Keep their health up with holisitic medicine and pushing them to exercises and eat whole foods. I assume they are not on their death bed so you have time to grow in power and eventually take better care of them. Regardless, the Gods care for our loved ones and will protect their souls.

#27
Blitzkreigsaid:
nobody111said:

i must admit that i cried a fucking river more than once,having to see that dead stare on their faces,thinking of all the things they missed in life...and im not what you would call a very lovely guy. I guess roots are stronger then feelings

They will be fine as long as their souls are fine. They may not advance spiritually in the near future, but they will eventually, as will the majority of Gentiles. Don't not think they are eternally fucked or something, because this is just based on present circumstances and not what the future holds.

Keep their health up with holisitic medicine and pushing them to exercises and eat whole foods. I assume they are not on their death bed so you have time to grow in power and eventually take better care of them. Regardless, the Gods care for our loved ones and will protect their souls.

that's exactly what i think about in those bad moments. thank you.

#28

Hi friends
I tried several times to tell them about these things but I couldn't hear them read I sent them a link on the page with a private account and I didn't notice and now four family members got vaccinated and they -I said I wasn't getting vaccinated and they started to get angry and now I'm trying to force myself, I'm not strong enough to do something about i.
What can I do ?
I'm sorry for my English

#29
nobody111said:
One Wire Phenomenonsaid:
Manofsatansaid:

Tell us what you did, do u want an assistance in workingfor protection or any other.

I exposed myself too much.No i doent need help thank you everything is going good sofar but maby in the future it will come back and byte me in the ass. Thats what i am worryed about. Thanks anyway

i don't know your situation but i want to tell you this: since I did the Dedication Ritual i worried about A LOT of things that actually never happened. i'm not saying that your is necessarily the case, but i would still invite you to think about it, and at least consider the idea that it may be your mind working against you. i don't want to be the "know it all" guy, but when i read your post I though about all the times that i was sure something awful was going to happen for certain things i have done, and then nothing, so...

Thanks man i appreciate that but i really fucked up more than anybody else here i think. It will only effect me if the enemy puts in certain laws.
If this world ends up in a gobal gulag,then yes they will find me. Anyway im sure Satan loves me and He wont let them find me.

#30
Manofsatansaid:
One Wire Phenomenonsaid:
Manofsatansaid:

Tell us what you did, do u want an assistance in workingfor protection or any other.

I exposed myself too much.No i doent need help thank you everything is going good sofar but maby in the future it will come back and byte me in the ass. Thats what i am worryed about. Thanks anyway

Humans are quick to forget. Act neutral, avoid discussing things that will bring them to memory, and hopefully they'll forget.

Yea not in my case.

#31
Dark and Blacksaid:

Hi friends
I tried several times to tell them about these things but I couldn't hear them read I sent them a link on the page with a private account and I didn't notice and now four family members got vaccinated and they -I said I wasn't getting vaccinated and they started to get angry and now I'm trying to force myself, I'm not strong enough to do something about i.
What can I do ?
I'm sorry for my English

Stand your ground, it’s your Body and your future.

Also do some research, document everything, show them your results, manipulate them by talking and inciting feelings. And foremost stand your ground.

You appear to be a teen. This should be your rebellious phase anyways. Well, don’t get yourself in danger tho.

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"Don’t quit. Suffer now,
and live the rest of your life as a Champion.“

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STAND TALL, BE PROUD, BE STRONG, YOU ARE PART OF ZEUS‘S HOUSE!

HAIL LADY INANNA!!
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HAIL BAAL-ZEBULON!!
HAIL FATHER ZEUS!!

#32
Dark and Blacksaid:

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If you want more specific advice you will have to provide more details. I would suggest creating a new thread.

My advice would be to not be afraid to express your feelings. If they are forcing you, tell them that being forced is terrifying and stresses you badly. You are fully within your rights to be hold it against them.

In some places and countries, a lockdown is happening before everyone has a chance to get vaccinated. You can use this and just say you won't go out, but don't need the vaccine.

Don't forget that the new Covid waves are supposedly due to the variants, which are not as affected (if at all) by the vaccines. You can argue that this new vaccine won't change much because it is now the variants that are widespread.

#33

Over here I had my door bust down as they received a call that i was a "devil worshiper".

Be careful who you tell as someone in my family obviously told someone.

Had to call social work they said the person who called sounded drunk and was a weird time, mentioned a few other things but the main thing is the police had a look at the house and realised it was a hoax.

This was a few year ago not very nice so be careful if you have kids dont tell anyone try best not even not to tell family could always get one peeved member telling their pals etc.

#34
NinRicksaid:
Dark and Blacksaid:

Hi friends
I tried several times to tell them about these things but I couldn't hear them read I sent them a link on the page with a private account and I didn't notice and now four family members got vaccinated and they -I said I wasn't getting vaccinated and they started to get angry and now I'm trying to force myself, I'm not strong enough to do something about i.
What can I do ?
I'm sorry for my English

Stand your ground, it’s your Body and your future.

Also do some research, document everything, show them your results, manipulate them by talking and inciting feelings. And foremost stand your ground.

Thank you very much for this advice I will do :D

#35
Blitzkreigsaid:
Dark and Blacksaid:

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If you want more specific advice you will have to provide more details. I would suggest creating a new thread.

My advice would be to not be afraid to express your feelings. If they are forcing you, tell them that being forced is terrifying and stresses you badly. You are fully within your rights to be hold it against them.

I'll explain right now
So my father and I have been out of the country for some time, but my mother is vaccinated and she wants us not to vaccinate so that we don't have the quarantine problem. about the vaccine and they said not to believe all the nonsense I read and that's why I have this problem, do you have any idea what it could do?

#36

I'm far separated from my teen years but this topic will arise so long as one has family.

I've alluded to my coming from a family of abuse.
Small towns.
Secrets.
Plenty of child abuse, sexual abuse, on and on. My cousins got to see a little of this but I had the "fortune" of being the
"black sheep" in a family of narcissistic psychopaths (like attracts like and water seeks its own level).
I'd retained something of a relationship with my father, however.
After his mother died, he belly flopped into a pool of jesus and never resurfaced. The most foul mouthed, vindictive, violent
man I'd ever known, now baby talking his "gosh!" and "prayer warrior" horseshit all because of his own insecurity and guilt.
He harassed his own father to death, aggravating the man into a heart attack, fought his brother before his brother died in an industrial accident (his own damn fault, working shit faced drunk in a mill and refusing safety equipment) but once my grandmother died, my old man fell in with some old high school buddy who is now a "non denominational pastor." The stripe of charlatan who is "there for" criminals, degenerates and bottom feeders with a message of mealy-mouthed forgiveness and love and light twaddle. So some jerkoff he'd known decades ago pats him on the empty little head and tells him he'll see his brudder in hehvunn some day and creepio jeepio wuvvva-wuvva-wuvva you.

My thug father became a fuckin' altar boy idolising Tim Tebow, Joel Osteen and whatever. No amount of "dad, this is not a safe subject for me, I do not want to talk about it" was respected. The break was as inevitable as decisive. So I shit not a give what becomes of him. He mocked my rape, he mocked my suffering and gloated. So he lives in a tiny, filthy pull trailer behind his other brother's house, newly divorced, unemployable, toothless and feeble, praising his paper god for jacking his life hard, deep and raw.

Not all families are about nurturing, love, respect or down the list. Some are vile animals unworthy of the air they deprive
honest scavengers and vermin. Some wonderful, life affirming gains are made by eliminating these people from one's life.
It's been nearly one year since I've spoken to him, and thirteen since cutting out the female parent.
Life heals now. I've told my story in greater detail in past, but the demons quite literally saved my life and salvaged me from a nearly successful suicide attempt. My love for them is greater than my "biologicals' " pseudo-love for anything.

There is a line from a movie The Prodigy "love is the guise from which selfishness operates. parents only love their children so long as they can control them."

At this point in my incarnation, I believe all love - familial or otherwise, is merely a weapon of control and while I do still crave it, I trust no "family" member to offer nor sustain it.

To any who may have a family such as mine, for they absolutely do exist, save yourself and get away. Don't broach the tender subject of our Gods with them. Just leave them to what they will. My old man thinks I'm an atheist and that's fine. I'll be the one designing his headstone.

Your relationship to Satan is elite, beautiful and must be protected against Xian filth. If you were fortunate enough to have a family who is genuinely family, you may be able to help them understand but the odds for some of us will never be worth that gamble.

#37

To HPZM:
I sincerely thank you for your original post. "Parents" can easily be replaced with "family/friends" in this context.
I've been feeling a lot of selfish pain lately and avoiding these forums. "Ugly Duckling" vibes or whatever you call it. My sense of humor is a very sharp two edged sword and I've just about cut my legs out from under myself, but, whatever...

Regardless, I keep being really surprised/impressed/inspired by the degree of sincerity you folks show. You seem to really put forth the effort of understanding people, knowing the kinds of people who are drawn to your beliefs, the kind of families they come from, the kind of love they have for them, and how hard it is when communication doesn't cooperate with good intentions. If I can be "that guy", I'll say that if Xians behaved in this way and did so sincerely, I might never have left them.

I actually truly love the thought of being an "invisible protector" of sorts for my loved ones who are still Xian or atheist. If I could become something that good for them, I would have a tremendous amount of meaning and gratification. I'm not interested in "credit" or recognition; that's for charlatans on daytime TV show performers like James Hydrick and Uri Gellar.
I guess I'd rather become a guardian for mortals than a god among them. I didn't think I would ever hear that such a state of mind would be considered good or right, even by spiritual Satanists (sorry. I don't mean to be insulting; just trying to be honest) :( These days any time you try to help other people for any reason besides some self-serving ulterior motive you're a "cuck" or "sap" or whatever. Then I read something like your post here and I remember that being good and doing right for the sake of loving what's good and right is moral beyond relative definitions or semantics. It's just the way we're supposed to be. Anyone who tries to shift those priorities is not trying to benefit you or those you care about in any way.

I really do love you folks. And I'm glad you're still here to help me through these confusing times. I'm sorry I can be such a shit to you now and then. It's just an anti-social streak I've always had. And I can't get rid of it. :?

I wish you all the best. Humble blessings from a mortal to all of you and your gods. And Hail Zeus for raising such wonderful children.

#38

I understand entirely that the likelihood of my parents ever understanding Satanism, even just the meditation aspect, is low. However, it isn't getting them to our side that I'm worried about. It's my Grandmother. She's a Christian and of course has never advanced her soul in any way. My dilemma is that she wants to be cremated. Will this kill her chances of advancing her soul in her next life? I understand the body is just a vessel, I'm simply looking for confirmation. I know she will be reincarnated and her soul has a long way to go, but is there any way of arranging it so she is born into a better life, free from the filth? I know if this is possible it will be a request to ask of Satan or the Gods, I just want to know if this possible. I love her dearly and she is old, I want her to have a better chance in her next life. Any advice is much appreciated.

#39
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Charlotte61903said:

I understand entirely that the likelihood of my parents ever understanding Satanism, even just the meditation aspect, is low. However, it isn't getting them to our side that I'm worried about. It's my Grandmother. She's a Christian and of course has never advanced her soul in any way. My dilemma is that she wants to be cremated. Will this kill her chances of advancing her soul in her next life? I understand the body is just a vessel, I'm simply looking for confirmation. I know she will be reincarnated and her soul has a long way to go, but is there any way of arranging it so she is born into a better life, free from the filth? I know if this is possible it will be a request to ask of Satan or the Gods, I just want to know if this possible. I love her dearly and she is old, I want her to have a better chance in her next life. Any advice is much appreciated.

The way her body is gonna be disposed will make no difference on her next life.

I am reaching towards a green apple.