Cellphones?

Every device with any sort of wireless technology emits and receives these frequencies in various forms unless they are completely disabled. Disabled, as in hard disabled, not just soft disabled through the user interface. So while you worry about that you should also be worrying about your desktop and laptop, but you are not?

If you do not want any more devices then use pen and paper, no?

That's a good observation Henu! I understand what you mean there, however my rationale there is that it's not as direct and close-range, albeit I do suspect that ethernet would present less of a risk to health, though I do live with roomates, so I've learned to let that one go (along with the unfiltered water system; showers and such...)

I've seen several anecdotes of people keeping cellphones in their pockets (one in their bra for many years) and developing tumors in those areas. It's more the direct and close-contact that I don't like. A University study (John Hopkins or something) demonstrated that EMFs reach the highest levels when a call is answered; ie when that immediate connection is made. This is the reason why all cellphone manufacturers are required to include warnings in their TOS recommending to never place a cellphone next to your head, simply due to potential long-term health implications.

Still, I do need to learn to take the good with the bad and learn to accept it. I feel that my excessive concern stems largely from health problems that I've had my entire life (mostly IBS and such). This isn't uncommon I think and it's why some of us are more bitter and concerned about things that harm our health than others, often going to a point that most likely isn't practical or logical in the long run.

I'll consider the words here, read the health section and I'll work on these issues in myself. Thanks for your comment!

It's pointless to worry about electromagnetic radiation. You live in the modern world, this is a part of life whether you accept it or not. Everything is electric and there are radio waves everywhere there is people, and even in places there aren't. You can't live like Chuck from Better Call Saul and live out of a faraday cage out of paranoia about electromagnetism, that is mostly in your own head.

Restricting yourself from the digital world is severely handicapping yourself.

Duely noted! I think I have been handicapped by this somewhat, yet I wonder sometimes about data, security and all that (something I'm a dunce about); hence why I acquired a view that these things are designed to be data-collecting and tracking devices. As an example, Alexa devices collect more data than they send out. There was also a 'smart' vacuum cleaner on Amazon once. The company was sued because people discovered that (through the cameras) these vacuums would map out houses, rooms, etc and send that data to be sold onlne.

These are things that I shouldn't start wearing a tinfoil hat over because I am a small fry and it wouldn't be worth the time and resources for 'the powers that be' to monitor my entire life. I still do have concerns about our future becoming a technocracy akin to China. These are concerns that shouldn't prevent me from living my best life however so I'll probably just have to bite the bullet on this one.

What are your thoughts on accessing information, such as the forums? Is this something of concern with these devices? I'm not very educated when it comes to technical stuff, hence my slight paranoia. Sorry for the fearmongering by the way - my words come from a place of love and concern over hatred and negative emotions. It's my way of trying to balance the good from the bad which (with the way I am) I tend to do constantly. I do appreciate the encouragement to not worry all the time. That's probably worse than accepting the good with the bad and finding a balance.

I have heard the news on these cell phones. Many times! And I've also read about the warnings, and what it does to the brain. And how it affects people. And it's been posted all over

I went for some years without a cell phone. I realized after some time that this wasn't right for me. If it makes your life better, then it's best to have one. The small amount of radiation is easy to nullify with a decent AoP and the occasional health working.

Don't have it near you when sleeping though and put it on airplane mode.

Remember, the strongest are those who easily adapt to the changing times, not those who stubbornly live in the past.

WOW Lydia, these are some powerful and truthful words! You are right about this! Horse-drawn carriages, basement cellars, etc. Sure these things might be better overall in many ways, yet since they are impractacle in modern times we instead need to find a way of finding a best alternative. There is no such thing as perfect in this world and obsessing over having only perfection will drive anyone made I think. Thank you for your sound advice! <3

For a luddite sure, it can be useless. But I get to see the ToZ when I don't have a computer available, I get to read information I need when I'm not at home.
There's also a ton of useful apps that can be used.

Also those subscriptions you talk about, having a phone doesn't mean one has to have them, other than internet.

How is it a waste of time? That's very subjective to how people use it.

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These are good points and I should never be quick to judge them as "all bad" when in fact there are many benefits that come with owning one. The negative side can just appear far worse than it is perhaps when that is all that one considers.

I may indeed look into it, though because I tend to worry about health I'll get a faraday case for it and use headphones to answer calls. In our modern world I think the best approach is mitigation over complete elimination of what is bad or harmful. Thanks for your feedback and sorry for going off on a dither as I often do.

Also thanks for the new word! Luddite... that does sound a lot like me through and through; something that I certainly need to work on given that I'm poor and I live in a city lol! Fun times in our modern world I guess lol.

I've seen several comments from you that make me wonder do Zevism have to go backwards?

Technology is here to stay and is a vital part of the future. TECHNOLOGY IS THE FUTURE and a Zevism must accept and adapt to it.

It really makes me wonder if he is that unhappy? I'm really into technology.

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It is, nearly in every case, a lesser of two evils I feel. I'm a very emotional-based thinking person (empath) and I'm very sensitive to these ideas of our world becoming like China. This however is an inevitability when we consider that (according to estimates) around 85% of people on the globe have a smartphone and that they are becoming required by digital companies, employers and so forth more and more. I don't like the idea of acquiescence and conformity in any regard, yet I do need to think about my life as a whole and measure the benefits against the negatives.

This is a sound thought and it's something I'll consider. If I can find a way to own a flip-phone with a laptop/tablet or something, I do feel that I'd be most happy with that knowing myself and what makes me feel happy. Still, the cost of such things plays another factor in this.

Thanks for your comment and sorry for opening a can of worms. Everyone is so unique in how drastic their feelings are towards certain things, thus I need to look internally more and become the most practical that I can be rather than picking an 'easy-out' (going to one extreme or the other).

You can get a cheap flip phone by NUU and disable all the tracking stuff and use it only for necessary calls. You can get a super cheap pay as you go service from tello for less than 10 dollars a month. I only use mine when leaving the house so wife can call if needed. the rest of the time it stays in airplane mode. I rarely use it except to call if a store is open or something.

These are good points and I should never be quick to judge them as "all bad" when in fact there are many benefits that come with owning one. The negative side can just appear far worse than it is perhaps when that is all that one considers.

I may indeed look into it, though because I tend to worry about health I'll get a faraday case for it and use headphones to answer calls. In our modern world I think the best approach is mitigation over complete elimination of what is bad or harmful. Thanks for your feedback and sorry for going off on a dither as I often do.

Also thanks for the new word! Luddite... that does sound a lot like me through and through; something that I certainly need to work on given that I'm poor and I live in a city lol! Fun times in our modern world I guess lol.

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It's 3 occasions that you need to protect yourself from cellphone radiation.

1) When you're wearing it. If you're a man put it in your back pocket, or keep it in a backpack.

2)When you're calling someone, in that case I myself avoid putting it near my head as at that moment the radiation is very much amplified. In this case use the speaker phone, or use cabled earphones.

3)When you're sleeping. If you keep your phone near you then put it in airplane mode and all the radiation will be gone. If you can't keep it in airplane mode because you expect calls or anything else then just keep it far away from you.

You can get a cheap flip phone by NUU and disable all the tracking stuff and use it only for necessary calls. You can get a super cheap pay as you go service from tello for less than 10 dollars a month. I only use mine when leaving the house so wife can call if needed. the rest of the time it stays in airplane mode. I rarely use it except to call if a store is open or something.

That's the option that feels best for me, just using it for the basics like accessing city hall services, being able to use QR codes and cryptocurrency, and taking a quick look at the internet if I need to look something up and I'm not at home.
Thanks.

I saw an article recently where a swiss company was allegedly DDoSed by a botnet made up of millions of internet connected toothbrushes. Security and data is extremely important.

It didn't actually happen but I was blown away by the fact that it is possible for this to happen.

I want to keep up with the times and technology but prefer my smartAxe to all modern gadgets. It improves my life more than any other tool.

Be smart but never give in to fear.

Ethernet is wired technology and does not belong in this discussion.

And since you have some sort of personal rationale along with supposing things this seems mostly personal fears not based on any real knowledge.

I think Lydia gave excellent advice about how to counter potential harm.

Thanks for the input, you and Lydia are absolutely right. I tend to overthink (autism or whatever; only seeing good/bad and black/white) and I always tend to seek things without any risk, harm or incorrectness; a life of absolute elimination over mitigation. Although it is possible to a few who live 100% outside of the system (homesteading in a foreign country, etc), it is vastly not possible for a large majority of all of us who live in modernized and industrialized worlds in which everyone around us depends on the system in some way or another. Even time has been changed from the old calendars which had 13 months of 28 days.

I just can't get away from it completely and I shouldn't concern myself too much about the wrongs in the world and instead focus on the good that comes from the bad. This indeed is much rooted in my own need for greater self-work and actualization most likely and I apologize for my toxic thinking there.

I need to think more critically and seek to mitigate instead of eliminate all bad things (even those trace amounts of things). Thanks Henu for helping me see that better; the importance of the present moment over the ideal and ultimate goal. It's very true that saying - Rome wasn't built in a day. I've got a lot of work to do and that's a good thing I figure.

You completely missed the point.

No, I did not. The point was about staying safe, but your post was full of conjecture and factual errors. And you failed to provide the example I asked for.

I wish we could go back to using the rotary phones